The new forums will be named Coin Return (based on the most recent vote)! You can check on the status and timeline of the transition to the new forums here.
The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.
Skills(z)
concrete
Registered User regular
Registered User regular
All these years I have damaged my gaming life by playing nothing but FPSes and MMOs. I've discovered that because of this - for I think that is the reason why - I'm unable to play an RTS of any kind. Once in a while, some dude runs up to me and says, "HEY! You need to try this new RTS, guy. It's made of pure awesome." Taking him on his word, I buy a copy. "This time," I say to myself, "it's going to be different".
I can't play RTSes for shit. God knows I've tried, and tried hard - but most of the time when I'm commanding my troops and heroes to attack a base, storm the front, or attempting anything involving more than three situations to manage onscreen at the same time, I end up staring into the the void of my own panic, lip quivering - like the Lieutenant in Aliens sitting in the armored car when shit breaks loose and Aliens kill his squad.
But... I want to play these games. I pick up a new FPS now, and go "Yeah. This is okay, I guess". I need something fresh, something to stimulate these under-used neurons required for Starcraft and its siblings. Someone please teach me how to RTS.
So, I suppose it's the same with people who can't play FPSes. I know a few. Faced with a first-person gun and a couple of enemies in a 3D environment, they get confused, like I do with RTSes.
I told them to try this - to get a general idea of how their reflexes compare to mine. Unsurprisingly, they're similar - as RTSes and FPSes both require a quick press of the button.
I want to know what type of game you feel like you are unable to master, if any - or are you the jack of all trades?
I can't play RTSes for shit. God knows I've tried, and tried hard - but most of the time when I'm commanding my troops and heroes to attack a base, storm the front, or attempting anything involving more than three situations to manage onscreen at the same time, I end up staring into the the void of my own panic, lip quivering - like the Lieutenant in Aliens sitting in the armored car when shit breaks loose and Aliens kill his squad.
But... I want to play these games. I pick up a new FPS now, and go "Yeah. This is okay, I guess". I need something fresh, something to stimulate these under-used neurons required for Starcraft and its siblings. Someone please teach me how to RTS.
So, I suppose it's the same with people who can't play FPSes. I know a few. Faced with a first-person gun and a couple of enemies in a 3D environment, they get confused, like I do with RTSes.
I told them to try this - to get a general idea of how their reflexes compare to mine. Unsurprisingly, they're similar - as RTSes and FPSes both require a quick press of the button.
I want to know what type of game you feel like you are unable to master, if any - or are you the jack of all trades?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
concrete on
0
Posts
Seriously, I've been trying to learn SC for the better part of two years, and I still suck.
EDIT: There is one exception to this; I was, and am, pretty good with Rome: Total War. It's the only one in the series I have played, but I'm actually pretty good with the battles in that.
XBL: LiquidSnake2061
Eh. Skillz is one of the reasons I don't play WoW.
I'm not good at racing games, but that's because I don't play them much since they tend to bore me quickly. Same goes for fighting games. I never felt it was worth the effort to memorize any combos or moves.
SS13 Rules Post
It was the best game released in 2006 and it was an RTS.
Like MMOs. I am bad at them.
My mother, who used to have trouble identifying what a mouse cursor and a scroll button was, 5 years ago, can play WoW and Sims 2 without issues. Yeah, silly example, I know.
Yeah, I can drift around a turn, donut and all that in my actual car. Damned to hell if I could do it in a racing sim though. MKDS is a different story however.
I also seem to be better at third-person than first, though I'm not awful at the former. It's partly finding it easier to dodge.
Oh, and I seem to be better at action/RPG/turn-based than RTS, at which I am merely adequate (I can handle the Warcraft 3 campaign, but skirmish mode challenges me severely).
Which made the game require skillz. Which made PVP shit stupid to me. Why it didn't have autoaim on target is beyond me.
I just can't do it. While I'm sitting there, thinking of where to plonk down a building, my opponent will have gathered a veritable army who gleefully stomps my handful of scouts into the ground. They always say that it's just a matter of practice. Do the work and your skills will improve! Bollocks. I've been playing these games for years and I think I hit my limit with the very first one, Dune 2.
Example: Starcraft Versus Warcraft.
Much more Micro required in Warcraft, with Macro being important, but not the most important.
Compared to Starcraft which well.... Is pretty much the oppisite (Ignoring the Pros, since they're on a whole new level).
Maybe you just need to find the right RTS? Starcraft is a good one, though I don't know how good the current players are. I'd recommend Warcraft but it's much harder since there are many more hard counters in that game (Example: Getting too many hunts against Human as Nightelf. One or two extra hunts can destroy you)
I dunno, I find I can play any game fairly well, I just grew up playing multiple genres.
This time, it's going to be different.
-No Problem.
FPS of any kind?
-Bring em on.
RTS be it LOTR, C&C, Warcraft, and many more?
It's my cup of tea.
Sadly, i must admit. I suck at platformers. From Donkey Kong to Banjo Kazooie, Rayman to Megaman. Even the 8-32bit marios and sonics ::shudder::.
However i buy them consistantly and try really hard.. But i can't for the life of me ever find enough coins, gems, keys, etc. I always fall into some endless hole or trip over a goomba.
I need help
The truth
I suck at Madden because I don't know what the hell the squiggly lines in the playbook mean.
However I am awesome at Blitz
Yeah, I have screamerphobia, it's official.
My lack of skills? RTS, I'm the same. Building stuff AND commanding your army at the same time? Fuck that.
SoogaGames Blog
Pretty much the same for me. I can make a lot of them work, since I focus on defense and then when my base can practically run itself I charge in at full blast. The command and conquer games are real nice for this, since I can start building units while focusing on the soldiers out in the field.
Seriously, racing games are just one with me.
Argh.
I'm the same way. It's one of the reasons I'm both excited and frightened by Test Drive unlimited's challenges. I have this horrible feeling I'll approach it full of bullish self-confidence only to be smacked down hard.
I suck at third-person action games. Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry especially. I keep playing them for those wonderful moments of gaming Zen when everything chains together and just .. flows.
They tend to be five or six seconds out of hours of gameplay, though.
Not a screamer and I scored 0.256s of reaction time. The thing is fun unless you're color blind.
I also have fun with RTS but suck at them, I will do single player campaign but I get owned in multi.
I kind of suck at puzzle games (Tetris), but I also don't like them very much. I have no idea if I'm any good at fighting games/racers. But I do certainly suck at platformers. I love them, but Im playing (trying to) Donkey Kong Country 2 at the moment, and I keep dying in that swamp! PLEASE TEACH ME SOME DONKEY KONG SKILLS!
Anyways, here is a guide to play StarCraft: http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~j-rad/starcraft/index.html
That may sound respectable, but the other guy sucked too.
Turns out, I suck at RTSs and I can't play those worth crap any more. I no longer enjoy them.
FPSs are still fun to me, now, but they're no longer a huge draw. I can look at a library of games for a system/PC, and I'll consider the good FPSs a plus, but not a major deciding factor.
I guess I'm somewhat tired of them in that they don't blow me away any more, but I still enjoy them.
Steam ID: slashx000______Twitter: @bill_at_zeboyd______ Facebook: Zeboyd Games
If you are playing Dawn of War, I'd recommend starting off playing against the AI just to get an idea of what the different factions/units are like. Once you've got an idea of what those are like you can start attempting multiplayer. In all likelihood, you'll probably suffer some early defeats.
When you get defeated however, one nice feature of Dawn of War is the ability to save a replay of the game. Save the replay and then play it back (you can do this from within Dawn of War) and take a look at what your opponent did to win. Note what he built and how he deployed his units in terms of capturing control points.
It's also worth learning alot of the keyboard shortcuts as they can help increase your response time by quite a bit. If you develop a strong attraction to a particular faction in Dawn of War, then make a point of learning their keyboard shortcuts, especially their building shortcuts (which will usually display if you mouseover a particular interface option on the screen).
-I'm mediocre at FPS games that require a modicum of skill, because I can never really get into them. Same goes for most third-person shooters.
-I'm barely passing at RTS games in general. If I focus on one for a while I can get pretty decent, but while I have the patience to say, practice a fighting game for like a hundred times, I don't have the patience to play like a hundred matches of an RTS game just to get good at it.
-I'm pretty good at turn-based strategy games.
-I'm awesome at virtually all single-player games that don't fit into the above categories, which is depressing because, well, they're not multiplayer (it also may seem easy to say that you're "really good" at a single-player game because you can be like "hurr hurr I beat it so I must be good," so I'm using what other people thing of the game's difficulty as a scale - for example, I don't think the Mega Man Zero series is difficult [honestly, that would be my preferred difficulty for all games, though only if all games had controls as tight as MMZ], and I didn't find Ninja Gaiden on the Xbox to be too bad [but definitely harder than MMZ], although I never got to the end because I couldn't figure out where to go somewhere and didn't care enough to check GameFAQs). Exception: Shmups. I fucking suck at shmups. The only kind of multiplayer game I'm really good at would be the fighting kind.
I have a friend that played nothing but MMOs for a while, and he went from pretty good at most multiplayer games to shit at all of them in a month or two. It took him twice as long to get back where he was before he started playing MMOs. Conclusion: MMOs kill your reflexes, reaction time, and muscle memory almost as much as they kill your time and money.
I do rape ass hard at Mario Kart DS though. At least, I rape the average player's ass. While waiting for my Wii, I played a circuit with 8 other people, and won all but one or two of the races, when I got blue-shelled. I don't even snake.
Remember that in an RTS, your opponant is always going to have the same opportunities as you. No more, no less. You can't be intimidated going into a match, and you have to play aggressively. This is especially true in Dawn of War, Company of Heroes, and Starcraft. Warcraft 3 is kind of a different breed, because of the Heroes and the creeping. Its not really a favorite of mine because of the creeping. But even then, aggressive play is important.
Remember that super units, while awesome, are not necesarily going to win the game for you. Your opponant has the same opportunities you do, and the same amount of time that you do, to get those same units. So unless you have played aggressively early on, and secured a better economy, or better control over the map, there is nothing to say you will have an advantage going into a fight with super units. In general, it is easier to secure a win early on, with your basic units, where a kill or two can make the difference, than it is to go an hour into the game and fight one massive battle. This isn't rushing, as a lot of people will call it. The units were put there for a reason so use them, if they want a chance at winning they will have to fight you, and learn to play the game using all of the units available to them.
As a small tip, if you are having trouble managing both your armies and your base, try to find a timer that you can set to go off every 30 seconds or so. It will remind you to keep building and keep pushing forward through your tech tree while continueing to manage your units in a fight.
And pick up Company of Heroes. That game requires more micro-management than any game I have ever played. That might not sound like a good thing in your situation, but I figure, if you can get half decent with CoH, than you can play almost any RTS. It also allows you to become very familiar with the game quickly. There are only two races, two sides to learn to play. Each side has 3 sub-divisions, but these are more specific tactics and not really seperate races. That means you only ever need to learn two matchups. Axis vs Allies, and Allies vs Axis. You could just learn one if you are satisfied with playing just one race. As a random player in Dawn of War, you will need to learn 49, as there are 7 races. While Dawn of War doesnt require the kind of reflexes or tactics that Company of Heroes does, this number alone can really be intimidating. Just remember to break it down to basics as best you can with each race.
Can't stick to an RPG.
But with an RTS I can actually get quite good.
With any RTS game, I normally ignore the main campaign and will only play skirmish maps and multiplayer. Even to this day, I still play AOE2, testing out countless permutations of maps, factions and settings.
There isn't the same level of variety in Homeworld 2, but it has offered some of the best epic-scale RTS battles. Why isn't this everyones favourite game ?