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NHL: Roberto Luongo, Poet Laureate

CorvusCorvus .VancouverRegistered User regular
edited December 2010 in Debate and/or Discourse
When last we spoke, Chicago had won the Stanley Cup.
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And then promptly due to salary cap issues, traded four players to Atlanta, one to Toronto, and walked away from their free agent cup winning goalie, who signed with San Jose.


NHL News Sources:

http://tsn.ca/nhl/
TSN is Canada's premier national sports network. While they have a partnership with ESPN, it should be kept in mind that they are not owned by them. They have many well connected and interesting, and occasionally annoying analysts such as Pierre McGuire, Bob MacKenzie and Ray Ferraro. Bob Mackenzie is one of the best at breaking trades and is usually credible on rumours.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/ Home of Hockey Night in Canada, the number one hockey show in history. Home of Don Cherry and his smarmy side-kick. As a website it's probably not that great, but if you want to watch HNIC streamed in Punjabi, this is the place to go. No, I am not making that up.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/ Honestly, I don't look at this much, but Buccigross' columns are amusing.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/ The Hockey News. One of the features I like best about this site is the team depth charts it gives. Most sites just give you a roster sorted by position, THN goes a little deeper.

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/ You want to know the salary cap implications of the guy you've never heard of that your team just traded for, this is where you go. Has all the info you need, even if the web design seems like it's from 1992.

http://nhluniforms.com/ Not a news site, but if you want to see the complete uniform history of the NHL, I've got you covered.


http://www.nhl.com/ Duh.

Special Note:
If you believe anything written by Eklund on HockeyBuzz, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.

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You should really check out this online hockey simulator that alot of us have gotten addicted to. It's called "Power Play Manager", and you can check it out here:

PowerPlayManager


Essentially it's all fake players and teams, but it's pretty robust: You're the GM of a new hockey franchise: You get to buy/draft/train your players, build up your arena (seats, snack bars, skyboxes), upgrade your facilities (ie- Training Facilities makes your players train faster, Sports Academy makes you draft better player), etc.. It's something that you can play casually as well. I am a huge fan of Fantasy Sports, so I got into this game pretty quickly. Your team plays 3 league games a week, and you can fill up the rest of the days by playing other teams in "Friendly" matches.

There's no concept of "trading", which threw me at first, but in the long run it's better since you don't get as much collusion and people being shifty-like. Instead they've got a very Fifa-esque transfer system going, which I surprisingly enjoy.

There's a number of strategies you can employ as well. I went for the "putting my money towards the future" strategy where I didn't really spend alot of buying players, but instead upgraded things like my Sports Academy and Training Facility so that I could draft good players, and increase their stats faster. Others choose a more financial approach where they upgrade their stadium and their Human Resources/Marketing to earn money and then buy players.

The game is totally free. There is the concept of a paid "Pro Pack", which gives you additional options, but it's not necessary for enjoying the game. You can donate money for "extra features", in the form of the "Pro-Pack". But I would recommend waiting before you decide if you want to spend money on the game. The reason being is you get to try out the "extra features" if you stick around a play for a bit to see what you're missing.

There are many tips and tricks that've been shared in this thread, feel free to address questions in the thread.

Tips:
Scoring
Tip for you guys that I've noticed: My key producers all seem to have good passing... even my top scorers. Seems that the Passing attribute may be very important in determining goal scoring, as well as setting up goals for others.
My lines are setup so that I've got two forwards with high Shooting, and at least one forward with high Passing. Might be something that'll work for you next time you re-jig your lineup.

Tactics
What I usually do is scout my opponent and see what importance and tactics he usually plays on. Not a lot of people know how to use tactics, and most just leave them as "Normal".

There are certain tactics that seem to "beat" other tactics... Kinda like rock/paper/scissors. Only instead of winning it gives a slight advantage.

For example, alot of managers play "Breaking up the Play" against someone who normally plays "normal", so it seems that "Breaking up the play" has a slight advantage against "normal" tactics. If someone plays offensive, I usually play Defensive. You can see what's now known as the "Tactic Matrix" in the blog here: Awesome Blog

Energy
I NEVER play 3 lines. Reason being is that your players get more tired, and as such don't train as quickly.

Notes about player energy:
There are two "energy"'s with players: Daily and Seasonal. Both start off at the beginning of the season at 100.
1) Daily energy is how much energy a player has for a game/training. It's maximum value is the Seasonal Energy, which I'll get into later. Training is contingent on how much daily energy your player has. Since bench players don't use energy, cuz they're not playing, they train faster.

2) Seasonal energy affects your players ability to be effective in games as the season wears on. For example, if you play a league game of low importance, your seasonal energy goes down 0.08 points. If you play a league game at Normal Importance, it goes down by 0.4 points. If you play a league game on High Importance, it goes down by 2.0 points. For friendly games, the rates are different: 0.02, 0.08, and 0.4 respectively. This number also affects your player abilities and team rating. (ie- if your players have an average seasonal energy of ~90, they're playing at 90% of their ability.)

So a few things: Don't EVER play on High Importance unless it's a CRITICAL game. Playing on High is like having your players play 5 games on normal. I play Low as much as possible and when I come up against a guy who could give me a run for my money, I play Normal. I usually don't play high until the playoffs come.

Player Ratio
I'm going on the assumption that low secondaries essentially truncate your primary, using the theory that:

if (secondary or tertiary < 1/2 of your primary)
primary = 2 x secondary or tertiary

If I'm correct, and I'm not 100% sure if I am or not, so take it with a grain of salt:
Goalie #1:
45(Goa)+24(Pas)+28(Agr) = 97 in "Positional" OR
Goalie #2:
38(Goa)+19(Pas)+32(Agr) = 89 in "Positional" OR
Goalie #3:
32(Goa)+22(Pas)+16(Agr) = 70 in "Positional" OR

Goalie #1 is clearly the best player of the bunch.

Now, when you're planning your training, you should find a player ratio that you think works best, and train accordingly.

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  • hanzohanzo Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    After seeing that score, I'm glad I wasn't able to watch the Habs. Not a good start since both of the teams I was rooting for lost. Game 2 should go a lot better for the Habs and Sharks.

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  • tofutofu Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Sevorak wrote: »
    tofu wrote: »
    hanzo wrote: »
    tofu wrote: »
    Nice job putting the wrong guy in the box refs.

    I hate hot goalies

    Well it is only game one. The Sharks almost always lose game one. :P

    Yeah, I'm not worried 8-)

    Niemi is very streaky. Hopefully his OMGWTF saves peter out.
    Chicago as a whole is very streaky. To be honest the Sharks came out and played a much better game than I expected, given their week off.

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  • SevorakSevorak Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Yeah, they played very well except for half of the second and a bit of the third. If they keep that level of play up for the rest of the series, I see good things.

    Whatever happens, this is going to be a fantastic series.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Wow, I just looked at how dumb the schedule is. It's pretty dumb. Speaking of, I started putting the full schedules/score updates in the OP in the conference finals last year.

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  • shalmeloshalmelo sees no evil Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    tofu wrote: »
    Sevorak wrote: »
    tofu wrote: »
    hanzo wrote: »
    tofu wrote: »
    Nice job putting the wrong guy in the box refs.

    I hate hot goalies

    Well it is only game one. The Sharks almost always lose game one. :P

    Yeah, I'm not worried 8-)

    Niemi is very streaky. Hopefully his OMGWTF saves peter out.
    Chicago as a whole is very streaky. To be honest the Sharks came out and played a much better game than I expected, given their week off.

    Yeah, I always figured that Chicago would win game 1 - they've been much better on the road than at home throughout the playoffs, plus San Jose was coming off the long layoff. Honestly, if the Sharks win game 2, they should feel pretty good heading back to Chicago.

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  • Sharp101Sharp101 TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Hmm.. my picks for this round both lost.

    I really should be picking Philly over the habs though. I don't know what's wrong with me.

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  • truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    love the TV coverage of Carcillo throwing hissy fits in the box yesterday.

    camera pans to him.... kicking and knocking shit over and you can clearly make out

    "FUCKING SHIT FUCK!!!!" -epic words from Daniel Carcillo

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  • Iron WeaselIron Weasel Dillon! You son of a bitch!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    What a train-wreck for the Habs. Hopefully, they unfuck themselves in time for Game 2.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Go Flyers

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Flyers in 7 (because they are the actually team of destiny, not the Habs as someone earlier in this thread posited)

    Puck Daddy wrote:
    ...Similarly, the Islanders were a three-seed in '75, and the Leafs finished three points back of the Rangers for the President's Trophy in ‘42. These weren't exactly underdogs grinding out Team of Destiny-type wins.

    The Flyers, on the other hand, snuck into the playoffs thanks to a shootout win on the last day of the season.
    They were the 18th-best team in the league this season. For the Bruins to cough up not only a three-game lead, but a three-goal lead as well, to a team that had a season like these Flyers, playing with a backup goalie and a few stars sidelined with injuries? Well, that's just fantastic.

    :whistle:

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  • Sharp101Sharp101 TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    love the TV coverage of Carcillo throwing hissy fits in the box yesterday.

    camera pans to him.... kicking and knocking shit over and you can clearly make out

    "FUCKING SHIT FUCK!!!!" -epic words from Daniel Carcillo

    Hahha. I don't know why, but I enjoy it so much when you can make out the players swearing. If you can just barely hear them it's even better.

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  • truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Sharp101 wrote: »
    love the TV coverage of Carcillo throwing hissy fits in the box yesterday.

    camera pans to him.... kicking and knocking shit over and you can clearly make out

    "FUCKING SHIT FUCK!!!!" -epic words from Daniel Carcillo

    Hahha. I don't know why, but I enjoy it so much when you can make out the players swearing. If you can just barely hear them it's even better.

    think that is the one reason I enjoy Tortorella so much. He is always screaming and swearing 90% of the time the camera heads his direction. well that and I enjoy seeing the Rangers losing and their frustration in general.

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  • CoJoeTheLawyerCoJoeTheLawyer Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Go Flyers

    As much as I don't like the Hans right now, I can't bring myself to root for Philadelphia. I guess I should root for Pronger to behead Carcillo, but that's it.

    As for the west, I want to see Chicago make the finals and lose. Why? So that Marion Hossa can get close again and never touch the cup. That bastard deserves to become the NHL's version of Sisyphus.

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  • WilDPanthA05WilDPanthA05 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Go Flyers

    As much as I don't like the Hans right now, I can't bring myself to root for Philadelphia. I guess I should root for Pronger to behead Carcillo, but that's it.

    As for the west, I want to see Chicago make the finals and lose. Why? So that Marion Hossa can get close again and never touch the cup. That bastard deserves to become the NHL's version of Sisyphus.

    While I agree with Hossa, then that would mean the Habs or Flyers win ... bleck. Go San Jose ... I guess?

    Regardless, this (habs flyers) reminds me of G1 vs the Pens. We'll just have to see how Halak comes out in game 2 ... I swear, he's like the freakin' borg (yeah, ST reference :( ).

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Flyers in 7 (because they are the actually team of destiny, not the Habs as someone earlier in this thread posited)

    Puck Daddy wrote:
    ...Similarly, the Islanders were a three-seed in '75, and the Leafs finished three points back of the Rangers for the President's Trophy in ‘42. These weren't exactly underdogs grinding out Team of Destiny-type wins.

    The Flyers, on the other hand, snuck into the playoffs thanks to a shootout win on the last day of the season.
    They were the 18th-best team in the league this season. For the Bruins to cough up not only a three-game lead, but a three-goal lead as well, to a team that had a season like these Flyers, playing with a backup goalie and a few stars sidelined with injuries? Well, that's just fantastic.

    :whistle:

    This kind of dramatically overstates the quality of the Bruins.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Well, I bolded the part that was MY justification for calling them the Team of Destiny. But I guess I did kinda of factor in the double 3-0 comeback, on the back of a rookie goalie, as well.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Backstrom signs a 10 year, 67 million dollar contract with the Caps.

    And seriously look at Boston: three points better than the Flyers in the regular season, worse goal differential, got less healthy as the series went on while the Flyers got one of their best forwards back and lost the worst goalie in the playoffs.

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    "Team of Destiny"

    What the fuck is this? Is Jack Black going to slide across the ice and score a goal with an electric guitar for the Flyers next game?

    Note: that would be fucking awesome

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Robman wrote: »
    "Team of Destiny"

    What the fuck is this? Is Jack Black going to slide across the ice and score a goal with an electric guitar for the Flyers next game?

    Note: that would be fucking awesome

    I think it is just a term used by people who have lost "their" team from the competition to give them someone to root for.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    NHL COO John Collins mentioned an interview that there will be two outdoor games next year, with one in Canada.

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  • OSUJumpManOSUJumpMan Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I'm not surprised they resigned Backstrom, though I was hoping to see him hit the market this summer.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    OSUJumpMan wrote: »
    I'm not surprised they resigned Backstrom, though I was hoping to see him hit the market this summer.

    Sounds like semin will be next season, though. If that is any consolation.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Robman wrote: »
    "Team of Destiny"

    What the fuck is this? Is Jack Black going to slide across the ice and score a goal with an electric guitar for the Flyers next game?

    Note: that would be fucking awesome

    It's when improbable and flukey things start happening. Or when there's a fuck you we're winning for ____ vibe coming for a team, like the '98 Wings.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Why are there no games today, followed by Chicago/San Jose tomorrow and then getting a fucking 2 days break and not having to play again until Friday? Meanwhile the Habs play tomorrow, Thursday, Saturday?

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  • SevorakSevorak Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    There was a concert at HP Pavilion on Saturday and the WCF couldn't start until Sunday, so the two series started on the same day. Maybe there's something similar going on at the United Center on Thursday?

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  • OSUJumpManOSUJumpMan Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    OSUJumpMan wrote: »
    I'm not surprised they resigned Backstrom, though I was hoping to see him hit the market this summer.

    Sounds like semin will be next season, though. If that is any consolation.

    Not especially. Tons of good wingers in the league. Not nearly so many centers.

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  • ShockwaveShockwave Back In Black Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    What a train-wreck for the Habs. Hopefully, they unfuck themselves in time for Game 2.

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    man i'm so worried about tomorrow's Montreal game. i mean it seems like halak needs the game 1 to adjust but if montreal loses another game it's noooot good :\

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  • HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    uuuugh Carter is most likely going to be playing again tomorrow for philley

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  • DibsDibs Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    It's the WCF that's being put out of whack, it's standard to play every other day (re: Habs).

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  • WilDPanthA05WilDPanthA05 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Weird playoff setup is fine by me, I'll be in Vegas June 10th and I'm hoping to catch a playoff game out there!

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    This thread now with 300% more schedule in OP.

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  • redfield85redfield85 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Puffycow and myself are going to the Flyers game tonight. Can't wait. It is going to be amazing.

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  • RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Robman wrote: »
    "Team of Destiny"

    What the fuck is this? Is Jack Black going to slide across the ice and score a goal with an electric guitar for the Flyers next game?

    Note: that would be fucking awesome

    It's when improbable and flukey things start happening. Or when there's a fuck you we're winning for ____ vibe coming for a team, like the '98 Wings.

    Improbable like the bottom ranked team in the playoffs beating the #1 seed and the defending champs?

    Oh right, it's Burtleboy and at this point it's Any Team But The Team That Beat My Team or some such nonsense.

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  • 3v3v Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Sharks please win..

    I would like to watch hockey into June for a change.

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  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    You know, there isnt anything that will prevent you from watching the finals should San Jose not make it.

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  • 3v3v Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    let me rephrase.

    I want to watch hockey thats meaningful to me in June.

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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Robman wrote: »
    Robman wrote: »
    "Team of Destiny"

    What the fuck is this? Is Jack Black going to slide across the ice and score a goal with an electric guitar for the Flyers next game?

    Note: that would be fucking awesome

    It's when improbable and flukey things start happening. Or when there's a fuck you we're winning for ____ vibe coming for a team, like the '98 Wings.

    Improbable like the bottom ranked team in the playoffs beating the #1 seed and the defending champs?

    Oh right, it's Burtleboy and at this point it's Any Team But The Team That Beat My Team or some such nonsense.

    How is it nonsense to dislike the team that beat your favorite team?

    And, unless you fail at reading, you will have seen my justification for calling the Flyers the Team of Destiny already in this thread. I mean, it is only 2 pages. It shouldn't be that hard to find.

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  • OSUJumpManOSUJumpMan Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
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  • BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    OSUJumpMan wrote: »

    Well, at least they didn't riot, loot, and burn the cars of their fellow fans?

    If that is any consolation.

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