Has Blu-ray overtaken DVDs yet anyway? I haven't paid attention to the Blu-ray sales uptake and the DVD sales fall.
Still in that vauge "Taking ground" stage. But I see more Blurays at Best Buy than DVD these days. That and Bluray players are down to the magical $200 mark and it's catching on like wildfire.
According to Joystiq's sources, Sony is set to reveal a premium tier of the PlayStation Network service, labeled PSN+, during its 2010 E3 media briefing. Unlike Microsoft's Xbox Live Gold service, PSN+ will focus on giving paid subscribers additional bonuses without limiting online multiplayer between paying and nonpaying users.
Many of the features included in the premium service mimic those featured in a supposed survey released late last year. Sources tell us that subscribers will have access to a rotating list of PSP Minis and PSone Classics, exclusive in-game DLC, discounts to the PlayStation Store and "first hour" demo access to full retail titles. Following the first hour of gameplay, players will have the ability to purchase the full title; however, demo access will only be available once the entire title has been downloaded.
As PSN+ subscribers, gamers will also receive protection for their consoles with the recently announced PlayStation Protection Plan, as well as exclusive access to the long-awaited cross-game voice chat. Additional features are said to be in the works following the launch of PSN+, including the previously rumored cloud-based saving system.
Joystiq has been informed that PSN+ subscribers will also have the ability to enable an auto-patching feature, which will detect, download and install updates for recently played PS3 titles on the system.
Pricing and a release for the PSN+ service is unknown, though one source speculates PSN+ may cost $9.99 per month. When contacted, a Sony representative said the company does not "comment on rumors or speculation."
Bolded doesn't mesh with what we've been told so far.
My wife and I saw our first commercial for a 3-D TV last night; she started laughing uncontrollably when they showed the family wearing goggles. I still have no idea how people this is going to catch on.
According to the populous on these forums Blu-ray was to crash and burn by now. Now I dont see the interest in 3-D TV either.. But hell, who knows.
Has Blu-ray overtaken DVDs yet anyway? I haven't paid attention to the Blu-ray sales uptake and the DVD sales fall.
Not yet. It will be many years before it overtakes it. At the moment, major releases vary from 20-45% of purchases being Blu-ray (Avatar was roughly 40%). The market is 15-20% of overall purchases I believe, but I don't have a decent source on that.
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Blu-ray sales in Europe are looking better than ever, with new figures suggesting that the format has almost doubled in popularity in a year.
In Q1 of 2010, Blu-ray sales managed to increase by 94 per cent year on year, with 8.4 million discs sold, according to new figures released by the Digital Entertainment Group Europe.
This meant that consumers spent a cool 151.4 million Euros on the format. This is similar to what happened in 2009, where sales of Blu-ray increased by 109 per cent.
Riding the wave of success
Blu-ray has still got a long way to go to match DVD sales, however. In the same timeframe 135 million DVDs were sold, which is a slight drop of 1.7 per cent.
Money wise this equates to a massive 1.3 billion Euros.
Overall this meant that combined disc units sold was up 3.8 per cent.
Speaking about the increase, Yves Caillaud, senior vice president of Warner Home Video said: "Blu-ray has continued to ride the wave of success at the start of 2010 and it is promising to see consumers respond well to the format.
"The industry is providing consumers with the most innovative and enjoyable home entertainment experiences, and we expect sales to increase as the penetration of HDTVs continues to accelerate."
One website said the percentage of the home movie market averaged in the mid-teens with it occasionally being bumped up thanks to some big release like Dances with Smurfs.
My wife and I saw our first commercial for a 3-D TV last night; she started laughing uncontrollably when they showed the family wearing goggles. I still have no idea how people this is going to catch on.
According to the populous on these forums Blu-ray was to crash and burn by now. Now I dont see the interest in 3-D TV either.. But hell, who knows.
Has Blu-ray overtaken DVDs yet anyway? I haven't paid attention to the Blu-ray sales uptake and the DVD sales fall.
While it has not taken DvD by any means but its definitely healthy. Its sales continue to escalate from previous periods while DvDs continue to slide from previous periods. Avatar just recently broke records and is up to 6 million plus blu-rays sold. So while it has yet to take over as the format, it still lives.
According to Joystiq's sources, Sony is set to reveal a premium tier of the PlayStation Network service, labeled PSN+, during its 2010 E3 media briefing. Unlike Microsoft's Xbox Live Gold service, PSN+ will focus on giving paid subscribers additional bonuses without limiting online multiplayer between paying and nonpaying users.
Many of the features included in the premium service mimic those featured in a supposed survey released late last year. Sources tell us that subscribers will have access to a rotating list of PSP Minis and PSone Classics, exclusive in-game DLC, discounts to the PlayStation Store and "first hour" demo access to full retail titles. Following the first hour of gameplay, players will have the ability to purchase the full title; however, demo access will only be available once the entire title has been downloaded.
As PSN+ subscribers, gamers will also receive protection for their consoles with the recently announced PlayStation Protection Plan, as well as exclusive access to the long-awaited cross-game voice chat. Additional features are said to be in the works following the launch of PSN+, including the previously rumored cloud-based saving system.
Joystiq has been informed that PSN+ subscribers will also have the ability to enable an auto-patching feature, which will detect, download and install updates for recently played PS3 titles on the system.
Pricing and a release for the PSN+ service is unknown, though one source speculates PSN+ may cost $9.99 per month. When contacted, a Sony representative said the company does not "comment on rumors or speculation."
Bolded doesn't mesh with what we've been told so far.
So no, Blu Ray isn't #1 and won't be for a very long time. Even if it doubles every year, it'll be another 5 years before it reaches the heights of DVD.
And at that point in time a feasible method for digital downloads will be in place and there will be no need for Blu Ray.
3D will never catch on in any significant way as long as you need special glasses, or anything along those lines.
Also, it's super expensive, and logistically a pain in the ass, for content makers dealing with any live action elements (so, you know, almost all of them).
So no, Blu Ray isn't #1 and won't be for a very long time. Even if it doubles every year, it'll be another 5 years before it reaches the heights of DVD.
And at that point in time a feasible method for digital downloads will be in place and there will be no need for Blu Ray.
In the UK at least they're looking at having 2 MB broadband by 2015 for everyone.
2MB. 5 years.
It will be a while before Digital Distribution is truly more feasible than going getting something from the store.
So no, Blu Ray isn't #1 and won't be for a very long time. Even if it doubles every year, it'll be another 5 years before it reaches the heights of DVD.
And at that point in time a feasible method for digital downloads will be in place and there will be no need for Blu Ray.
In the UK at least they're looking at having 2 MB broadband by 2015 for everyone.
2MB. 5 years.
It will be a while before Digital Distribution is truly more feasible than going getting something from the store.
As long as a good codec is used a connection at about 1.5/2MB (actual speed) is more than sufficent for streaming HD video content.
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In the UK at least they're looking at having 2 MB broadband by 2015 for everyone.
2MB. 5 years.
It will be a while before Digital Distribution is truly more feasible than going getting something from the store.
Yep. Still more economical for me to buy Blurays off of Amazon than to try and download all my Anime choices. Now if Netflick, Hulu, and the rest catch up. Well, guess I'll be streaming.
So no, Blu Ray isn't #1 and won't be for a very long time. Even if it doubles every year, it'll be another 5 years before it reaches the heights of DVD.
And at that point in time a feasible method for digital downloads will be in place and there will be no need for Blu Ray.
No, there will be need for a physical medium for a long, long, long time to come.
First, many people just prefer having some sort of physical, tangible item for their money. Think of the average consumer, and then tell me if you seriously think digital distribution will overtake physical media sales in the next decade.
There's also the issue of people having shitty internet connections, or bandwidth caps. Music is able to do as well as it does with DD because an album, even in good quality, is still much smaller than a medium quality, standard definition film. Most people just aren't set up for frequent super-large downloads.
Just because you're ready and you want it doesn't mean everyone else is too.
So no, Blu Ray isn't #1 and won't be for a very long time. Even if it doubles every year, it'll be another 5 years before it reaches the heights of DVD.
And at that point in time a feasible method for digital downloads will be in place and there will be no need for Blu Ray.
In the UK at least they're looking at having 2 MB broadband by 2015 for everyone.
2MB. 5 years.
It will be a while before Digital Distribution is truly more feasible than going getting something from the store.
As long as a good codec is used a connection at about 1.5/2MB (actual speed) is more than sufficent for streaming HD video content.
Tell that to my top of the line 384KB/s connection. Only costs me $80 a month in a package with my local and long distance provider!
I had a DSL line that maxed out at around 600 but usually got around 200 for over ten years. Of course it was awesome when the only thing faster was the T1 connection at work, but still!
I managed to download quite a bit on that connection. Just takes time!
Now I have 20 MB dedicated, which usually gets me 15. The nice part is the 15 upload. It's part of the reason why I don't understand why some people think Wii games lag a ton online; mine only do if I'm playing someone with an absolutely terrible connection.
I had a DSL line that maxed out at around 600 but usually got around 200 for over ten years. Of course it was awesome when the only thing faster was the T1 connection at work, but still!
I managed to download quite a bit on that connection. Just takes time!
Now I have 20 MB dedicated, which usually gets me 15. The nice part is the 15 upload. It's part of the reason why I don't understand why some people think Wii games lag a ton online; mine only do if I'm playing someone with an absolutely terrible connection.
That kind of speed is ridiculously rare. Here the only thing that comes close is Virgin since they use Fibreoptic for 50MB but those installations are few and far between and are shared so I doubt you get the full 50. Its so bad that we're so backwards on this while Japan is on like 100MB both ways I think.
I think the reality is that physical media and digital distribution will co-exist. I'd be happy with that arrangement, since I tend to prefer physical media, but do use DD from time to time (mostly for games/software).
I had a DSL line that maxed out at around 600 but usually got around 200 for over ten years. Of course it was awesome when the only thing faster was the T1 connection at work, but still!
I managed to download quite a bit on that connection. Just takes time!
Now I have 20 MB dedicated, which usually gets me 15. The nice part is the 15 upload. It's part of the reason why I don't understand why some people think Wii games lag a ton online; mine only do if I'm playing someone with an absolutely terrible connection.
That kind of speed is ridiculously rare. Here the only thing that comes close is Virgin since they use Fibreoptic for 50MB but those installations are few and far between and are shared so I doubt you get the full 50. Its so bad that we're so backwards on this while Japan is on like 100MB both ways I think.
Residential FIOS in the northeast corridor (MA to the very top of Virginia) will get you 15/15 promised and deliver roughly 13.5 of it. It's fantastic internet. I've got a business connection for the family trade so I'm doubly lucky, but I do pay for it!
So to the degree that HD (as opposed to just flat) TVs were sold, it seems that the biggest demands were probably for movies and sports. Is there any real application of 3D for sports? Seems it wouldn't work for most camera angles.
I actually watched part of the Masters golf tournament a while back for my job. The backgrounds looked a little deeper and of course they framed some establishing shots with tree branches leaping out of you. But the actual ball-whacking action... meh. Didn't really do a thing for it.
Oh, and the crowd shots looked very odd. The camera was pulled back to get as many people in as possible, so the people in the foreground were still very small. Yet they still popped off the screen like some demon marionettes wearing polo shirts about to jump out and attack my rat terrier.
I should also mention that the glasses, being battery-powered to sync with the TV, were slightly heavier than the movie glasses. Not by much, but enough to make me want to get them the hell off my face after 20 minutes or so.
Oh, and the crowd shots looked very odd. The camera was pulled back to get as many people in as possible, so the people in the foreground were still very small. Yet they still popped off the screen like some demon marionettes wearing polo shirts about to jump out and attack my rat terrier.
This mental image suddenly makes me wonder what pets around the world will think of glasses-less 3D.
You know, when Philips resurrects their 3 year old tech for it that never took off. They'd better hurry before everyone else decides that glasses are the future.
Well, there was a paragraph at the end about the multiplayer.
Not that facing off against humans is much better. Sure, there's something to be said for how much fun it can be smashing your friends with a well placed weapon, but the 20 player online matches quickly devolve into a chaotic mess where getting first is a secondary concern to just trying to survive in the flurry of firearms. Thankfully this is largely not a problem in the game's fun team-based races and battle modes or in the smaller, 10-player races, which are the best way to play Blur online.
I must have missed the announcement, but when I was checking the new PSP releases on the PSN today, I saw that ModNation Racers PSP requires a $15 DLC to play online if you purchase used. Given that the game itself is only $30, it's going to be pretty hard to save money going used if you're interested in the online.
Oh and my earlier comment about PSP Minis other than Tetris never showing up in the top 10 best sellers list is now void as spots #7,#9, #10 are all Minis now.
I think the reality is that physical media and digital distribution will co-exist. I'd be happy with that arrangement, since I tend to prefer physical media, but do use DD from time to time (mostly for games/software).
This is true. There is no other way to say it because it is a completely true statement.
It boggles my mind that people take back one system over another. The digital distribution people are especially annoying. Perhaps I spend to much time on the interwebs but people seem to be willfully denying reality when they say digital distribution is going to explode and physical is totally dead. Blu-ray guys can be annoying to (how can you guys not see the picture difference?).
I'm obviously not representative of the population but I just bought my first album off iTunes yesterday. I only did it because it's cheaper and it's DRM free. Only when iTunes went DRM free did I consider jumping on the iTunes train and it still took me about a year and a half to get here. Go me!
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Sure, physical media & digital distribution will co-exist. The question is for how long? Especially in the portable gaming realm, going purely with digital distribution makes a lot of sense.
I don't think I'm alone in preferring physical media, I like it for presentation, I like how it reflects my monetary investment and I like that if Steam or whatever is down it doesn't stop me playing it. I couldn't ever conceive of a world in which these things were not true for me except one where you can download 50GB of data in less than a minute and games cost £5. And again, no resale value and paying near full price without getting as much for it? Fuck that.
It'll also never happen because no collectors editions. It also puts publishers at the mercy of console makers for distribution.
How does it make sense to go purely with digital distribution when so many places have poor internet service? There are many places in the States I know that have horrible internet access, a few of my friends have complained about it for years, some have access only to dial up. UP here in Canada if anything our internet services are getting worse not better, we're going the way of Australia and I shudder to think how it will be in a few years.
Digital has a very long way to go before it becomes the norm for a majority of people.
It makes a lot of sense with portable systems, because 1) portable games tend to be smaller than home console games and 2) it's a lot more convenient to carry a portable system with a bunch of downloaded games installed than it is to carry a bunch of game carts. Really, the only thing holding the portable systems all being DD is Nintendo's relunctance to go digital and even they are starting to offer DD games on stuff like the DSi.
With home consoles, on the other hand, I suspect physical copies are going to stick around for a while as the predominant medium.
With handhelds it makes even less sense, there isn't universal hi-speed Wi-fi and flash memory is too expensive to allow for huge amounts of storage space.
I was mostly talking about movie formats in my post. Games could be a little harder to predict since as a group I think we'd be more receptive to DD. However there is always a stat or two laying around that shows that not that many people even have consoles connected to the internet.
For portables I would guess the 3DS is still going to use physical media, no idea what direction a theoretical PSP2 could go. The PSP Go did terrible but it was also $250.
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Sony Announces Deal to Bring HBO's Library to the PS3.
Quote:
Sony is working hard to fulfill its promise of making the PlayStation 3 more than a gaming console. Today the company announced that, starting today, a major chunk of HBO's library of original programming will be available on the PlayStation Network.
and
Quote:
Specific pricing details were not provided, but multiple sources are reporting that individual episodes will be available for $2.99. And the service will be linked to HBO's DVD releases. New and live programming will not be available for PSN download until it is released on DVD.
"We're extremely pleased to offer our premium programming on Sony Computer Entertainment's PS3 system," said Henry McGee, president, HBO Home Entertainment. "This premier gaming system will offer an exciting new way for consumers to purchase HBO's award-winning programming."
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I think physical media storage for consoles is going to stay around for a long, long time simply because places like Best Buy and Wal-Mart would fight tooth and nail to keep those streams of revenue. Obviously Gamestop will fight DD like a mad dog simply because it would mean an end to crappy rip-off profit plan. Without used game copies to sell, Gamestop would be sunk (thankfully).
Yeah, there's some DD stuff for the PS3 and 360 right now, but those are all older games. DD won't become predominant until the demand for it does so and we're a long way from that right now due to things like broadband accessibility.
I had a DSL line that maxed out at around 600 but usually got around 200 for over ten years. Of course it was awesome when the only thing faster was the T1 connection at work, but still!
I managed to download quite a bit on that connection. Just takes time!
Now I have 20 MB dedicated, which usually gets me 15. The nice part is the 15 upload. It's part of the reason why I don't understand why some people think Wii games lag a ton online; mine only do if I'm playing someone with an absolutely terrible connection.
I'm curious, where do you live that offers such a high upload speed?
Edit: Ah, I see you basically answered that about a post down.
Well, there was a paragraph at the end about the multiplayer.
Not that facing off against humans is much better. Sure, there's something to be said for how much fun it can be smashing your friends with a well placed weapon, but the 20 player online matches quickly devolve into a chaotic mess where getting first is a secondary concern to just trying to survive in the flurry of firearms. Thankfully this is largely not a problem in the game's fun team-based races and battle modes or in the smaller, 10-player races, which are the best way to play Blur online.
Sony Announces Deal to Bring HBO's Library to the PS3.
Quote:
Sony is working hard to fulfill its promise of making the PlayStation 3 more than a gaming console. Today the company announced that, starting today, a major chunk of HBO's library of original programming will be available on the PlayStation Network.
and
Quote:
Specific pricing details were not provided, but multiple sources are reporting that individual episodes will be available for $2.99. And the service will be linked to HBO's DVD releases. New and live programming will not be available for PSN download until it is released on DVD.
"We're extremely pleased to offer our premium programming on Sony Computer Entertainment's PS3 system," said Henry McGee, president, HBO Home Entertainment. "This premier gaming system will offer an exciting new way for consumers to purchase HBO's award-winning programming."
Regarding 3D - the World Cup is being broadcast in 3D this year.
It is, of course, not available in Canada as such. Progress!
While I'm firmly on the HD bandwagon, 3D is going to need some time to percolate for me. It's coming, but I'll need to see lower priced sets before I'm willing to jump in.
As far as digital distribution goes - I don't care what codec you're using, you're not pulling down full frame 1920x1080 progressive video with a 7.1 channel uncompressed soundtrack over 2Mbps (or even 2MB per second).
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Still in that vauge "Taking ground" stage. But I see more Blurays at Best Buy than DVD these days. That and Bluray players are down to the magical $200 mark and it's catching on like wildfire.
Bolded doesn't mesh with what we've been told so far.
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/25/rumor-sony-to-reveal-psnplus-subscription-service-at-e3-2010/
Not yet. It will be many years before it overtakes it. At the moment, major releases vary from 20-45% of purchases being Blu-ray (Avatar was roughly 40%). The market is 15-20% of overall purchases I believe, but I don't have a decent source on that.
One website said the percentage of the home movie market averaged in the mid-teens with it occasionally being bumped up thanks to some big release like Dances with Smurfs.
While it has not taken DvD by any means but its definitely healthy. Its sales continue to escalate from previous periods while DvDs continue to slide from previous periods. Avatar just recently broke records and is up to 6 million plus blu-rays sold. So while it has yet to take over as the format, it still lives.
PsP emulator for Ps3 as an option would have me sold and some.
And at that point in time a feasible method for digital downloads will be in place and there will be no need for Blu Ray.
Also, it's super expensive, and logistically a pain in the ass, for content makers dealing with any live action elements (so, you know, almost all of them).
In the UK at least they're looking at having 2 MB broadband by 2015 for everyone.
2MB. 5 years.
It will be a while before Digital Distribution is truly more feasible than going getting something from the store.
As long as a good codec is used a connection at about 1.5/2MB (actual speed) is more than sufficent for streaming HD video content.
Yep. Still more economical for me to buy Blurays off of Amazon than to try and download all my Anime choices.
No, there will be need for a physical medium for a long, long, long time to come.
First, many people just prefer having some sort of physical, tangible item for their money. Think of the average consumer, and then tell me if you seriously think digital distribution will overtake physical media sales in the next decade.
There's also the issue of people having shitty internet connections, or bandwidth caps. Music is able to do as well as it does with DD because an album, even in good quality, is still much smaller than a medium quality, standard definition film. Most people just aren't set up for frequent super-large downloads.
Just because you're ready and you want it doesn't mean everyone else is too.
Tell that to my top of the line 384KB/s connection. Only costs me $80 a month in a package with my local and long distance provider!
I managed to download quite a bit on that connection. Just takes time!
Now I have 20 MB dedicated, which usually gets me 15. The nice part is the 15 upload. It's part of the reason why I don't understand why some people think Wii games lag a ton online; mine only do if I'm playing someone with an absolutely terrible connection.
That kind of speed is ridiculously rare. Here the only thing that comes close is Virgin since they use Fibreoptic for 50MB but those installations are few and far between and are shared so I doubt you get the full 50. Its so bad that we're so backwards on this while Japan is on like 100MB both ways I think.
Residential FIOS in the northeast corridor (MA to the very top of Virginia) will get you 15/15 promised and deliver roughly 13.5 of it. It's fantastic internet. I've got a business connection for the family trade so I'm doubly lucky, but I do pay for it!
I actually watched part of the Masters golf tournament a while back for my job. The backgrounds looked a little deeper and of course they framed some establishing shots with tree branches leaping out of you. But the actual ball-whacking action... meh. Didn't really do a thing for it.
Oh, and the crowd shots looked very odd. The camera was pulled back to get as many people in as possible, so the people in the foreground were still very small. Yet they still popped off the screen like some demon marionettes wearing polo shirts about to jump out and attack my rat terrier.
I should also mention that the glasses, being battery-powered to sync with the TV, were slightly heavier than the movie glasses. Not by much, but enough to make me want to get them the hell off my face after 20 minutes or so.
So yeah, not impressed.
You know, when Philips resurrects their 3 year old tech for it that never took off. They'd better hurry before everyone else decides that glasses are the future.
Well, there was a paragraph at the end about the multiplayer.
Oh and my earlier comment about PSP Minis other than Tetris never showing up in the top 10 best sellers list is now void as spots #7,#9, #10 are all Minis now.
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This is true. There is no other way to say it because it is a completely true statement.
It boggles my mind that people take back one system over another. The digital distribution people are especially annoying. Perhaps I spend to much time on the interwebs but people seem to be willfully denying reality when they say digital distribution is going to explode and physical is totally dead. Blu-ray guys can be annoying to (how can you guys not see the picture difference?).
I'm obviously not representative of the population but I just bought my first album off iTunes yesterday. I only did it because it's cheaper and it's DRM free. Only when iTunes went DRM free did I consider jumping on the iTunes train and it still took me about a year and a half to get here. Go me!
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It'll also never happen because no collectors editions. It also puts publishers at the mercy of console makers for distribution.
Digital has a very long way to go before it becomes the norm for a majority of people.
With home consoles, on the other hand, I suspect physical copies are going to stick around for a while as the predominant medium.
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For portables I would guess the 3DS is still going to use physical media, no idea what direction a theoretical PSP2 could go. The PSP Go did terrible but it was also $250.
http://ps3.gamespy.com/articles/109/1092576p1.html
Yeah, there's some DD stuff for the PS3 and 360 right now, but those are all older games. DD won't become predominant until the demand for it does so and we're a long way from that right now due to things like broadband accessibility.
I'm curious, where do you live that offers such a high upload speed?
Edit: Ah, I see you basically answered that about a post down.
He must be playing a different Blur from I.
Also, LOL GAMES THAT I SUCK AT ARE STUPID
It is, of course, not available in Canada as such. Progress!
While I'm firmly on the HD bandwagon, 3D is going to need some time to percolate for me. It's coming, but I'll need to see lower priced sets before I'm willing to jump in.
As far as digital distribution goes - I don't care what codec you're using, you're not pulling down full frame 1920x1080 progressive video with a 7.1 channel uncompressed soundtrack over 2Mbps (or even 2MB per second).