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[Red Dead Redemption] Wherein Ceno learns what horse deeds do 25 hours in.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Post-story chat:
    I don't mind Jack, but I miss hearing everyone recognize me and talk about my exploits as John.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    damn.... one night in and I'm already obsessed!

    got together with some of the PA hockey folks and we punched some bears. Also holed up in a bar and let the bounty skyrocket.. got mine high enough to get named "Public Enemy" and got an avatar unlock for it.

    I recently started GTA4 and am mid way through the game. This is just feels way more than GTA on horses.

    You got an avatar unlock for public enemy? We were holed up in the Armadillo saloon for about two hours last night and none of us got it.

    I did spend a bit of time playing with Leitner and Daemon earlier today and managed to get the Most Wanted achievement that we were going for all of last night, though. It's hairy as hell - ten minutes is just enough time for some players to catch up to you and kill you just before you escape. Almost happened to me, definitely happened to Daemon.

    If anyone wants to posse up right now I would totally do that.

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Areas Discovered: 93/94

    There had better be some goddamn way to tell what I'm missing.

    Rockstar Social Club. There's literally a big honking map with all the places in the game marked, telling you whether or not you've found them yet.

    Seriously. Rockstar Social Club. Join it. It will answer every single question you have about the game. It will tell you EXACTLY what you have left to do to get 100%.

    Is it working now?

    A few days ago it refused to let me link my account.

    EDIT: It lets me link my gamertag now but I still can't change any of my profile settings.

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  • WishpigWishpig Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Klyka wrote: »
    Wait,people bitched about the opening?

    Why is that? Is there something wrong with a man riding in a train?

    It's a damn shame that the OST doesn't have the opening piano chords.

    The opening absolutely sold the game for me.

    It does, it's the track exodus in America. Track # 14 to be exact. This is the special edition soundtrack you download off their site.

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  • Missing a LeggMissing a Legg Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So I just finished the third mission for Seth, woah interesting guy. I never thought a western would be this cool. Im hunting deer, herding horses, and exploring...weird. I cant wait for the co-op DLC.

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  • SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So I just finished the third mission for Seth, woah interesting guy. I never thought a western would be this cool. Im hunting deer, herding horses, and exploring...weird. I cant wait for the co-op DLC.
    I *love* the way they channel Gollum for his character.

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  • David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Found out two things today.

    1) I can't tell the difference between a cougar and a wolf at night.

    2) You can kill a cougar with the knife, but that doesn't make it a good idea.

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  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Alright, where or how do I find Mo van Barr? He's all that stands between me and my outfit.

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  • mspencermspencer PAX [ENFORCER] Council Bluffs, IARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    SammyF wrote: »
    Maybe for the remainder of this iteration of the RDR thread we can all agree that everyone here has the capacity to completely take anything out of context in a cheap and immature attempt to make something sound stupid so that the replying individual feels irrationally smarter or better about himself? That way, no one will feel like it's necessary to demonstrate his ability to the rest of the folks posting in this thread.
    Don't worry, man -- people can see right through this when it happens. You didn't need to defend yourself.

    I've been guilty of this too -- it's easy to forget that people are smart and that just because someone implies something doesn't make it obviously true or obviously false. (I would've had a much easier junior high and high school experience in the late 80's and early 90's if I had learned that lesson much easier in life. I was an easy mark.)

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  • mspencermspencer PAX [ENFORCER] Council Bluffs, IARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Antihippy wrote: »
    Also, would really love to know when the second area opens up. I've just finished seth's quest and it seems like I'm still on tutorial stuff around 6-8 hours or so in. :lol: I love wandering around too much.
    I know you weren't really saying "still on tutorial stuff" like it's a bad thing, but something bugged me a bit and I wanted to share:

    Extending player learning through the entire length of a game isn't really a bad thing. Think about a Zelda game: you're getting new items with new game mechanics, and then facing gating puzzles that teach you how to use them, all the way through to nearly the end of the game.

    Then again, Zelda items don't usually introduce new interface or control elements, so the feel is different. I don't know if that's a design deficiency on the part of RDR that they can't make their new gameplay elements without requiring new interfaces or control methods. I'm not terribly offended by learning a new way to control a new game mechanic.

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  • fsmith1fsmith1 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I just got the "Buckin' Awesome" achievement. I have deeds for all three now.

    Their names are Minos, Rhadamanthus and Aeacus.

    I'm playing high stakes poker in Blackwater to celebrate my achievements.

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  • truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Willeth wrote: »
    damn.... one night in and I'm already obsessed!

    got together with some of the PA hockey folks and we punched some bears. Also holed up in a bar and let the bounty skyrocket.. got mine high enough to get named "Public Enemy" and got an avatar unlock for it.

    I recently started GTA4 and am mid way through the game. This is just feels way more than GTA on horses.

    You got an avatar unlock for public enemy? We were holed up in the Armadillo saloon for about two hours last night and none of us got it.

    I did spend a bit of time playing with Leitner and Daemon earlier today and managed to get the Most Wanted achievement that we were going for all of last night, though. It's hairy as hell - ten minutes is just enough time for some players to catch up to you and kill you just before you escape. Almost happened to me, definitely happened to Daemon.

    If anyone wants to posse up right now I would totally do that.

    I just assumed it was for my bounty as it unlocked right as I broke the $1000 mark. As my bounty was going up I set a goal for myself of $1000, but my posse started to get bored and wanted to leave, so at $900 something I just ran out into the street killing like mad. Got the last bit just before I died. my unlock was a sombrero.

    could have been for something else though, maybe time based, or killing x number of lawmen. ???

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  • CenoCeno pizza time Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So what do the deeds do? I've yet to buy one, though I have only one of the 3-star horses to break. Do they cause the horse to spawn or something?

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  • hailthefishhailthefish Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    With Zelda games, though, the hand holding tapers off and pretty much disappears, and there's much more of a separation between the "new player tutorial" phase of the game (Kokiri Forest until Hyrule Field in Ocarina of Time, for example) and the "Actually really playing the game" phase, whereas with R*, the hand holding stays at a fairly steady pace and there's no clear line of when you're actually playing the 'real game' versus 'the tutorial level'.


    Edit: Truckasaurus, the sombrero is for shooting off hats, I think.

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  • JoolanderJoolander Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Willeth wrote: »
    damn.... one night in and I'm already obsessed!

    got together with some of the PA hockey folks and we punched some bears. Also holed up in a bar and let the bounty skyrocket.. got mine high enough to get named "Public Enemy" and got an avatar unlock for it.

    I recently started GTA4 and am mid way through the game. This is just feels way more than GTA on horses.

    You got an avatar unlock for public enemy? We were holed up in the Armadillo saloon for about two hours last night and none of us got it.

    I did spend a bit of time playing with Leitner and Daemon earlier today and managed to get the Most Wanted achievement that we were going for all of last night, though. It's hairy as hell - ten minutes is just enough time for some players to catch up to you and kill you just before you escape. Almost happened to me, definitely happened to Daemon.

    If anyone wants to posse up right now I would totally do that.

    I just assumed it was for my bounty as it unlocked right as I broke the $1000 mark. As my bounty was going up I set a goal for myself of $1000, but my posse started to get bored and wanted to leave, so at $900 something I just ran out into the street killing like mad. Got the last bit just before I died. my unlock was a sombrero.

    could have been for something else though, maybe time based, or killing x number of lawmen. ???

    The avatar sombrero unlock is for shooting a dudes hat off without killing him

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  • Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    That had to be a glitch.

    Finely lost my first horse due a cougar attack near Pleasance House. I put two slugs in him, skinned and took his paw. Called for the backup horse, bam, another cougar killing. Shoot, skin, repeat. Call horsey the third, same damn thing. The second I mount the horse, it gets gutted.

    Yes, I tried a fourth time. Lets just say I ended up walking out of there with another cougar pelt. 4 horses, 4 cougar trophies.

    I miss my horse. :(

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  • Tridus1xTridus1x Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Anyone doing Free-Roam funtimes today?

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    ShimSham wrote: »
    Behemoth wrote: »
    Big Isy wrote: »
    gang hideouts, how do you start them?

    Go to them. There will be someone just outside the hideout who you can talk to the start the quest proper/get your reward.

    And I believe you have to have completed the hangout in the story mode.
    Cheers fellas!

    Also, I'm in the camp that doesn't like the main characters voice acting. Its the same guy from Lost and Damned and I didn't like him neither. Atleast, they sound a hell of a lot alike.

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  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Damn this game is really good. Enjoying it so much.

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  • WoodroezWoodroez Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Ceno wrote: »
    So what do the deeds do? I've yet to buy one, though I have only one of the 3-star horses to break. Do they cause the horse to spawn or something?

    Whenever you select it from the satchel, assuming you don't have that breed of horse already, that breed comes running to you and is your new steed. I think if you already have that one as a steed that nothing happens.

    Horse on demand.

    EDIT: I'm not sure if any other shotgun does it, but running into someone with the Semi-automatic and pulling the trigger is vicious.

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  • OmnomnomPancakeOmnomnomPancake Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Tridus1x wrote: »
    Anyone doing Free-Roam funtimes today?

    [strike] I want to saddle you.

    Saddle on you.

    Saddle with you. [/strike]

    Be in the same saddle as you as free roam is played.

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  • mspencermspencer PAX [ENFORCER] Council Bluffs, IARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    With Zelda games, though, the hand holding tapers off and pretty much disappears, and there's much more of a separation between the "new player tutorial" phase of the game (Kokiri Forest until Hyrule Field in Ocarina of Time, for example) and the "Actually really playing the game" phase, whereas with R*, the hand holding stays at a fairly steady pace and there's no clear line of when you're actually playing the 'real game' versus 'the tutorial level'.


    Edit: Truckasaurus, the sombrero is for shooting off hats, I think.
    I think I was arguing that even in Zelda when you get the hookshot late in the game, there are player training exercises in the form of "gating" where there is a challenge you must accomplish or else you can't proceed, but the game doesn't explicitly tell you what buttons to press or how to use the device.

    After reading what you wrote I think my argument was flawed though. I still believe that player learning is constant throughout most of a game, but explicit "see this situation? you should react this way" handholding is different. One suggests a solution and lets player trial-and-error provide the learning; the other explicitly teaches and demands player obedience.

    The comparison with Zelda was not a good one. RDR has to do more work to teach its interface because they have a lot of different context-sensitive interface things to teach -- they don't just have a bunch of items and a use-item button.

    But then again, I think it's fine for a game to do a little more interface-teaching -- even halfway or more through the game -- and then go back to one of the more traditional learn-or-fail / trial-and-error / gating types of challenge. I haven't finished enough of the game to know if this is true for RDR, but I think it should be true of games that stay fun.

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  • EvigilantEvigilant VARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Shit, sorry for bailing guys, my 360 froze...so now I'm going to stop and get some food.

    Good times all around.

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Some thoughts, after beating the story missions (this means spoilers - don't bitch at me because you can't stop yourself from clicking the button):
    I loved the way the game built to the ending. Someone earlier mentioned that finishing the side missions and challenges as Jack just feels wrong, and I have to agree, but I find that's to the game's credit. John Marston is a likable guy. He's honest, witty, and is just trying to save his family. The game does an excellent job cultivating him and making us feel a connection to him. He's the character I was waiting for R* to give us - he's not a psychopath or ghetto gangbanger, but a relatively normal guy trying to make up for his past.

    The missions before his death served as the perfect way to deliver the stomach punch. Here he is, John Marston husband and father, trying to save his ranch and enjoy the life he always dreamed of having. And he did have a few meaningful moments of peace and happiness. And then it was all ripped away.

    I dunno if anyone else has done this, but revisiting the ranch at night is both sad and a bit eerie. The lights are on in the house, but the entire ranch is empty. In a nice little detail, you can only save your game in Jack's room. The emptiness is palpable, making me wish there was a way to have Jack find a girlfriend, or a group of guys to go hunting with.

    Kudos for R* and their creation of John, one of the few video game characters I actually cared about.

    I hope there's an expansion or two in the works. I'd love to have more to do in the Eastern and Northern portions of the map. Maybe do some more with Bonnie and her dad.

    Finally, in a completely unrelated question, are there any hot springs or geysers anywhere on the map?

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  • fsmith1fsmith1 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I just finished getting cleaned out at high stakes poker. I had actually doubled up and busted one of my competitors out, then the last guy seemed to have a fucking horseshoe up his ass. I swear to god, any time I saw his cards he had a full house, straight or flush. I beat him out on two big hands, once with a straight and the other with three of a kind, but I was seriously getting pretty pissed at his luck.

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  • NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Torso Boy wrote: »
    fsmith1 wrote: »
    Well this is bullshit, I just ran into *another* duel where I could not simply shoot the gun out of the guy's hand. It seems like this is a common occurrence for quest related duels.

    Don't know if anyone addressed this yet, but any stranger or story duel must be fatal, and often they are of such high skill that you have to take more than one shot.
    Lights Camera Action spoiler:
    You have to disarm the actor that's playing at being a real gunslinger

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  • Bacon-BuTTyBacon-BuTTy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    That was an awesome freeroam/Shootout session guys.

    Sorry I lost connection after the second match.

    Good times though.

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  • mynameisguidomynameisguido Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    fsmith1 wrote: »
    I just finished getting cleaned out at high stakes poker. I had actually doubled up and busted one of my competitors out, then the last guy seemed to have a fucking horseshoe up his ass. I swear to god, any time I saw his cards he had a full house, straight or flush. I beat him out on two big hands, once with a straight and the other with three of a kind, but I was seriously getting pretty pissed at his luck.

    This was my experience with Herbert Moon in Armadillo. I'd have really good hands, and like a bunch of times in a row he'd have flushes or straights or something else ridiculous.

    Then there was this guy in Mexico who I had down to like 100 chips and then he'd constantly get hands where he'd have the exact same face card as me, but a better kicker. It happened several times, but when it happened two times in a row on big hands I got really annoyed. What are the fucking chances of that happening?

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    You aren't cheating hard enough.

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  • Wet BanditWet Bandit Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    fsmith1 wrote: »
    I just finished getting cleaned out at high stakes poker. I had actually doubled up and busted one of my competitors out, then the last guy seemed to have a fucking horseshoe up his ass. I swear to god, any time I saw his cards he had a full house, straight or flush. I beat him out on two big hands, once with a straight and the other with three of a kind, but I was seriously getting pretty pissed at his luck.

    He was probably cheating. You should have shot him, just to be sure he wasn't cheating.

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Wet Bandit wrote: »
    fsmith1 wrote: »
    I just finished getting cleaned out at high stakes poker. I had actually doubled up and busted one of my competitors out, then the last guy seemed to have a fucking horseshoe up his ass. I swear to god, any time I saw his cards he had a full house, straight or flush. I beat him out on two big hands, once with a straight and the other with three of a kind, but I was seriously getting pretty pissed at his luck.

    He was probably cheating. You should have shot him, just to be sure he wasn't cheating.

    I wish they had added in an extra layer of depth to the game, like in Bullshit where you can accuse others of cheating. Then it's not murder, it's an issue of honor.

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  • mynameisguidomynameisguido Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    You aren't cheating hard enough.

    I've never been able to cheat in poker. It's too damn hard to keep that cursor centered.

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    You aren't cheating hard enough.

    I've never been able to cheat in poker. It's too damn hard to keep that cursor centered.

    Well, if you get caught cheating and win the duel, you've got one less person to play against at the table.

    Of course, you already lost your buy in money, so it's not like in Casino Royale where Bond just comes back to the table all non-chalant.

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  • Bacon-BuTTyBacon-BuTTy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Has anyone else noticed the horrible awesome wounds people get in their heads when you shoot them?

    I just saw a guy ontop of a hooker with a knife outside the saloon. Shot him in the face and there were just chunks of his skull and brain hanging out the back of his head, as he slumped forward off the wooden deck and bent over into the sand. Then the blood started seeping from it.

    And the blood pools glisten in the sun.

    It's fucking brutal.

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  • SilpheedSilpheed Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So, could anyone help me with completeing the Bollard Twin outfit. I'm only missing the piece that says " search Thieve's Landing". Where do I find it? I've already purchased the outfit scrap from the tailor.

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  • ZenitramZenitram Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Silpheed wrote: »
    So, could anyone help me with completeing the Bollard Twin outfit. I'm only missing the piece that says " search Thieve's Landing". Where do I find it? I've already purchased the outfit scrap from the tailor.
    Open the gate on the right as soon as you enter the town. Go to the back and stay along the back of the building (between the building and water/dock). There may be a second gate that you have to open before you see the dock. Go up the staircase and inside the room at the top, it is in a chest there.

    I hope that's right, it's how I remember it.

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  • l337CrappyJackl337CrappyJack Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Silpheed wrote: »
    So, could anyone help me with completeing the Bollard Twin outfit. I'm only missing the piece that says " search Thieve's Landing". Where do I find it? I've already purchased the outfit scrap from the tailor.
    It's in a chest inside the huge warehouse next to the general store. I believe in the upstairs office.

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I think I may have encountered a bug, Mexico act spoilers.
    At the final mission, I started off in the duel against the soldier to rescue Reyes, and I completely missed how the girl freedom fighter died. I don't think I hit any buttons, anyone else encouter this?

    Made it to Act III, the 1911 is godly.

    Also, the quest I know you is the BEST IN THE GAME. Quest and endgame SPOILERS people.
    A perfect mix of Pale Rider and a perfect foreshadowing Marston's death. He got to meet his very own grim reaper, or even GOD Hisself, and the actions you take during his quest very much define Marston's morality. Does Marston really deserve redemption after all the blood he's shed? I think this quest, and how you deal with it, answers it perfectly. I haven't confirmed it myself, but some players say the exact spot you meet the Stranger the third time is where Marston is burried, and during the final shootout he can be seen watching events play out.

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  • ShimShamShimSham Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Silpheed wrote: »
    So, could anyone help me with completeing the Bollard Twin outfit. I'm only missing the piece that says " search Thieve's Landing". Where do I find it? I've already purchased the outfit scrap from the tailor.

    Have you done the mission where you have a big shootout in the building there?
    Go to that room where the hostage was being held where you drop in from the roof. In that room there's a chest.

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  • John ZoidbergJohn Zoidberg Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I am really digging the ability to earn xp by yourself if all you can find are people just randomly shooting each rather than doing hideouts, etc.

    I just went from 1 to 8 in around 4 hideouts and a few challenges. I have barely scraped the surface of both aspects of this game and I am loving it.

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