i was using bone axe + and alloy since i was using that for everything . though i rekindled my love of hammers with the peco flint and its fire attribute since it slays gr. jaggi and royal ludroth. i might try and hunt up some more royal ludroth so i can update my ludroth bone maul to the splash hammer and get water damage.
i just can''t seem to make a dent in him lately. the problem is not avoiding his attacks. its the moving in to actually hit him before he stomps me good
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When he charges, it's good practice to run away from him directly, then roll to the side in plenty of time to avoid the charge. Try and time it so that you come out of the roll as he tosses his head back, then wail on his hindquarters with meaty hammer triple-pounds. That's how I usually do it. I bring a sword if I want to cut his tail off.
Once he stops moving around so much, triple-pound his head, stun him, break his crest - it's a lot easier to smack him once he's tired himself out.
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So I like to plan ahead... and I'm trying to decide what Armor+ to use. I'm an LS user and deciding between Lagi+ or Rathalos+.
I plan to use the Reaver so I would have an Awaken skill so the Lagi+ gets points for that and it also would then boost my Elemental. Not bad.
Alos+ gives me crazy crit and Mind's Eye. If I understand that right it means my weapon wouldn't bounce anymore? That sounds awesome.
What's the best upgrade path for the Vulcanis? Should I go for attack boost, slot+1, or affinity+15%? I'm leaning towards attack boost or slot+1.
Yeah attack boost is the best place to go, higher damage is better then affinity, and all the upgrade paths final one has 3 slots all the same I think?
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So I like to plan ahead... and I'm trying to decide what Armor+ to use. I'm an LS user and deciding between Lagi+ or Rathalos+.
I plan to use the Reaver so I would have an Awaken skill so the Lagi+ gets points for that and it also would then boost my Elemental. Not bad.
Alos+ gives me crazy crit and Mind's Eye. If I understand that right it means my weapon wouldn't bounce anymore? That sounds awesome.
So what do you guys think?
I used Rathian for Earplugs (HG Earplugs now). I'm still using it for Earplugs. You have no way of blocking roars, and that's where you're going to eat most of the hits. Not to mention all of the free hits you get while monsters roar.
Lagiacrus+ has negative Fire resist, which is the only resist that matters at all (so many things use it). Even with high armor, a raged jump bazooka hit from Rathalos will one-shot you. It's not a bad chioce otherwise, but there aren't many Awakening weapons that are actually worth using for the element, and for Longsword in particular, I really only used the Wyvern blade, Gobul blade, and Alatreon/Deviljho weapons.
Rathalos is a good choice, and it's quite popular from what I've seen online.
But yeah, a Rathian+ mix will take you through the entire game, only because of a single skill.
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Blocking roars works. It'll throw you back a bit and still take time to recover but not as long as you holding your ears.
So I like to plan ahead... and I'm trying to decide what Armor+ to use. I'm an LS user and deciding between Lagi+ or Rathalos+.
I plan to use the Reaver so I would have an Awaken skill so the Lagi+ gets points for that and it also would then boost my Elemental. Not bad.
Alos+ gives me crazy crit and Mind's Eye. If I understand that right it means my weapon wouldn't bounce anymore? That sounds awesome.
So what do you guys think?
I used Rathian for Earplugs (HG Earplugs now). I'm still using it for Earplugs. You have no way of blocking roars, and that's where you're going to eat most of the hits. Not to mention all of the free hits you get while monsters roar.
Lagiacrus+ has negative Fire resist, which is the only resist that matters at all (so many things use it). Even with high armor, a raged jump bazooka hit from Rathalos will one-shot you. It's not a bad chioce otherwise, but there aren't many Awakening weapons that are actually worth using for the element, and for Longsword in particular, I really only used the Wyvern blade, Gobul blade, and Alatreon/Deviljho weapons.
Rathalos is a good choice, and it's quite popular from what I've seen online.
But yeah, a Rathian+ mix will take you through the entire game, only because of a single skill.
Mind's Eye is pointless with LS because LS has innate Mind's Eye during spirit combo. Affinity upgrade from the armor is not a huge damage boost. HG Earplug is a fine skill and all, but Evade + 1/2 is much better. You can roll through all the roars that way, as well as any other attacks. It also lets you roll through stuff like Deviljoes breath attack, or hell just about anything.
School+Work has been so insane I haven't played in near 2 weeks. I bought my psp and it's been sitting there aside from my initial runs.
These games have withdrawal symptoms.
"Do you feel sad? Are you unable to Hunt monsters? Well proctor and proctor have the ultimate solution. Monster Hunter gum. Yes this gum can give you the feeling of killing towering beasts long forgotten by time. Act now supplies limited"
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School+Work has been so insane I haven't played in near 2 weeks. I bought my psp and it's been sitting there aside from my initial runs.
These games have withdrawal symptoms.
"Do you feel sad? Are you unable to Hunt monsters? Well proctor and proctor have the ultimate solution. Monster Hunter gum. Yes this gum can give you the feeling of killing towering beasts long forgotten by time. Act now supplies limited"
I want some.
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So I like to plan ahead... and I'm trying to decide what Armor+ to use. I'm an LS user and deciding between Lagi+ or Rathalos+.
I plan to use the Reaver so I would have an Awaken skill so the Lagi+ gets points for that and it also would then boost my Elemental. Not bad.
Alos+ gives me crazy crit and Mind's Eye. If I understand that right it means my weapon wouldn't bounce anymore? That sounds awesome.
So what do you guys think?
I used Rathian for Earplugs (HG Earplugs now). I'm still using it for Earplugs. You have no way of blocking roars, and that's where you're going to eat most of the hits. Not to mention all of the free hits you get while monsters roar.
Lagiacrus+ has negative Fire resist, which is the only resist that matters at all (so many things use it). Even with high armor, a raged jump bazooka hit from Rathalos will one-shot you. It's not a bad chioce otherwise, but there aren't many Awakening weapons that are actually worth using for the element, and for Longsword in particular, I really only used the Wyvern blade, Gobul blade, and Alatreon/Deviljho weapons.
Rathalos is a good choice, and it's quite popular from what I've seen online.
But yeah, a Rathian+ mix will take you through the entire game, only because of a single skill.
Mind's Eye is pointless with LS because LS has innate Mind's Eye during spirit combo. Affinity upgrade from the armor is not a huge damage boost. HG Earplug is a fine skill and all, but Evade + 1/2 is much better. You can roll through all the roars that way, as well as any other attacks. It also lets you roll through stuff like Deviljoes breath attack, or hell just about anything.
Ahhhh so much to think about! Do roars get worse later in the game? I've yet to get hit because of a roar. As for the Mind's Eye I didn't think about that.... granted on bosses I don't spend much time with spirit combo... and when I do I tend to just use it for the attack boost because trying the whole combo leaves me wide open for hits.
Hmmmm so Evasion is where it's at? Would you suggest Barioth+ then? It still has the -Fire Resist but I guess if you dodge enough it won't matter? Bah! So confused!
Edit: What would be a good skill to add to Barioth+ Jewel wise?
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So I like to plan ahead... and I'm trying to decide what Armor+ to use. I'm an LS user and deciding between Lagi+ or Rathalos+.
I plan to use the Reaver so I would have an Awaken skill so the Lagi+ gets points for that and it also would then boost my Elemental. Not bad.
Alos+ gives me crazy crit and Mind's Eye. If I understand that right it means my weapon wouldn't bounce anymore? That sounds awesome.
So what do you guys think?
I used Rathian for Earplugs (HG Earplugs now). I'm still using it for Earplugs. You have no way of blocking roars, and that's where you're going to eat most of the hits. Not to mention all of the free hits you get while monsters roar.
Lagiacrus+ has negative Fire resist, which is the only resist that matters at all (so many things use it). Even with high armor, a raged jump bazooka hit from Rathalos will one-shot you. It's not a bad chioce otherwise, but there aren't many Awakening weapons that are actually worth using for the element, and for Longsword in particular, I really only used the Wyvern blade, Gobul blade, and Alatreon/Deviljho weapons.
Rathalos is a good choice, and it's quite popular from what I've seen online.
But yeah, a Rathian+ mix will take you through the entire game, only because of a single skill.
Mind's Eye is pointless with LS because LS has innate Mind's Eye during spirit combo. Affinity upgrade from the armor is not a huge damage boost. HG Earplug is a fine skill and all, but Evade + 1/2 is much better. You can roll through all the roars that way, as well as any other attacks. It also lets you roll through stuff like Deviljoes breath attack, or hell just about anything.
Ahhhh so much to think about! Do roars get worse later in the game? I've yet to get hit because of a roar. As for the Mind's Eye I didn't think about that.... granted on bosses I don't spend much time with spirit combo... and when I do I tend to just use it for the attack boost because trying the whole combo leaves me wide open for hits.
Hmmmm so Evasion is where it's at? Would you suggest Barioth+ then? It still has the -Fire Resist but I guess if you dodge enough it won't matter? Bah! So confused!
Edit: What would be a good skill to add to Barioth+ Jewel wise?
Rathalos in particular likes to pin you with a roar and then jump back fireball before you can recover. Uruagaan has also been known to roar and then reduce a stunned hunter into chin paste.
However as people have said, roars can be blocked (even lance countered) or dodged through. That said with earplugs you don't have to take any evasive maneuvres at all, so a monster roaring means a decent amount of free time for you to wail on them, and all monsters roar so it's universally useful.
HGE isn't as important in MH3 because most monster's don't "roar combo" anymore into a OHKO. Rathalos doesn't count because his jumpback fireball is easily avoided by not standing under his head in the first place. Urgaan can, but it is nothing to worry about unless you are attacking his head (mostly hammer users). All the other "roar combos" are rare and not a OHKO.
Man, I'm on a hunting break but having I gotta ask you. I'm currently doing offline quests only so, should I bother with Lagi armor and weapons? I wanted to farm the damn thing but I'm having a rough time with my Assault Axe+. I've read that underwater battles (especially Lagi) are easier with Lances. But that means I have to craft one. And then there's Capture Expert from the Baggi armor. Is it worth it in the long run? Should I craft all these things or should I just man up and keep at it with my SA and Barroth armor?
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Capture Expert is great but getting traps early on can be a hassle if you aren't trading with the Argosy
Lagi blademaster armor is nice for low rank stuff as long as you are aware of the poor fire resist, I really like the Lagi switchaxe too as it's got decent sharpness and Thunder element is good against a bunch of enemies
So, should I switch to Lances for this fight or keep at it with my SA?
You can fight him with a SA, he's like a big royal lud, he just he has a couple extra tricks (aoe lightning splosions being the primary difference). One thing to get used to, when he actively swims away from you (but not fleeing), get ready to dodge to your left, he's about to dive bomb you. This can be really nasty when he's raged because he'll be electried which adds damage and he'll follow it up with a body slam.
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It took me all of four (successful) repels to get a full set of Jhen Mohran armor between last night and this morning. As a GS user, focus + razor sharp is a pretty effective combo. Compared to the countless times I've tried for a Rathian plate to finish off the set, getting the Jhen Mohran set was a cakewalk.
Protip: If you need Mohran Braces, attack his arms.
So yeah, work sucks, room mate who is fucking off sucks, appartment hunting/new room mate hunting sucks too.. and after all that hunting, the worst part is I cant really fit in some Monster hunting!
So enough whinging, just wanted to put that out there.
Just watched a Zeropunctiation review of MH3 which I found quite funny, so if you know it hit it up.
Now Im heading out again to check out an appartment...
So yeah, work sucks, room mate who is fucking off sucks, appartment hunting/new room mate hunting sucks too.. and after all that hunting, the worst part is I cant really fit in some Monster hunting!
So enough whinging, just wanted to put that out there.
Just watched a Zeropunctiation review of MH3 which I found quite funny, so if you know it hit it up.
Now Im heading out again to check out an appartment...
Wow, that ZP review... Like the commentators said, Yahtzee probably only played the HR1 quests and didn't get into some of the tougher monsters, which is a shame. But, barring the lack of gigantic monster killing, the essence was spot on: a quasi-never-ending upgrade game like Pokemon only with bits of twig, horn, and antelope fluid.
Still, if only he'd mentioned more giant monster killing. The first time you go toe-to-toe against a Barroth for 30 minutes and watching it wear down until you get the kill is pretty exhilarating.
So yeah, work sucks, room mate who is fucking off sucks, appartment hunting/new room mate hunting sucks too.. and after all that hunting, the worst part is I cant really fit in some Monster hunting!
So enough whinging, just wanted to put that out there.
Just watched a Zeropunctiation review of MH3 which I found quite funny, so if you know it hit it up.
Now Im heading out again to check out an appartment...
I hope there is a Baroth there..
That... that would be the worst apartment.
Just think of the mess!
Just think. You would be the first person in history to quit an apartment and return it :P
So yeah, work sucks, room mate who is fucking off sucks, appartment hunting/new room mate hunting sucks too.. and after all that hunting, the worst part is I cant really fit in some Monster hunting!
So enough whinging, just wanted to put that out there.
Just watched a Zeropunctiation review of MH3 which I found quite funny, so if you know it hit it up.
Now Im heading out again to check out an appartment...
I hope there is a Baroth there..
That... that would be the worst apartment.
Just think of the mess!
Just think. You would be the first person in history to quit an apartment and return it :P
I quit the apartment because of my charging roommate.
Zoidberg,do you want to do some hunting tonight after I am back from work? I haven't hunted in days.
Sounds like a good idea. I want you to see my absolutely horrifying gunner gear I am wearing. Skull Mask, Agnaktor chest, Lagi arms and waist and Uragaan leggings.
What madness is this you ask? Torso up x 2.
I plan to tweak it in the future to maybe provide better stats but as it stands I have Normal Shot damage+, Normal Shot capacity+, Trap Master, Capture Guru, Divine Blessing aaaand I think that's it. Still have 200+ defense and 2 pieces still need upgrading.
Will still look into getting a Status+ set but this set is a good all rounder for any monster kill.
Likewise, just beat Ceadeus with less than 2 minutes left on the clock
It seems like all the HR 20-30 dudes have stopped playing though
Nah, we just got to HR 31+ :P
Yes and how many of them are going to waste time helping out low HR dudes
Out of my 200 hours played I spent at least 50-75 hours doing quests with lower ranked people to get them up to speed so we could progress together.
Just sayin'
For me, if you're a PAer, I'll probably be happy to help you on low-ranked quests. Of course, I need to be able to see you're a PAer (in your hunter status or being on the first page list). Otherwise, it'll depend a lot more on my mood if I'll help a PUG. Generally if it's just me and them, I might help, but if I'm with other people doing high-ranks and a 1* PUG comes in and just expects us to drop everything and join his quest, I'm gonna raise an eyebrow and be much less inclined to help unless the others want to help as well.
For the most part, once I've farmed up the week's new event quest components, I become more relaxed and am willing to do anything. Event quests are also a great reason for high-ranks and low-ranks to play together.
Speaking of which, Mini-uragaan is SO CUTE! He's also incredibly hard to capture.
Mind's Eye is pointless with LS because LS has innate Mind's Eye during spirit combo. Affinity upgrade from the armor is not a huge damage boost. HG Earplug is a fine skill and all, but Evade + 1/2 is much better. You can roll through all the roars that way, as well as any other attacks. It also lets you roll through stuff like Deviljoes breath attack, or hell just about anything.
Pfft. Show me a person with Evade +2, and I'll show you a hunter who only evades maybe 10% more attacks, at most. Positioning is far more important than last-second roll shenanigans. You can't roll through all roars, and to roll through a roar, you have to be able to anticipate it, just like blocking. Blocking/Rolling roars isn't a pro-technique... it just means you were at the right place at the right time, unlike the hundreds of times you will be in less-than-ideal situations. Like sitting underneath Alatreon when he instant-roars, for example.
Rolling isn't an integral part of Longsword combat, anyway. You don't dart in, strike, and then roll like Sword and Shield, and you don't need more invulnerability frames in a backhop like Lances. You usually strike and then use one of the dashing slash attacks to get out, which do not benefit from Evade +2.
I'd say Mind's Eye has less value for Longsword than most, because of Spirit Combos, but it can be annoying to build up Spirit Gauge on monsters with tough hides. It's not "pointless" (Dungmaster in a Stable environment is pointless), but it's not generally needed. Rathalos is still fine armor that has better skills than a lot of armors.
HGE isn't as important in MH3 because most monster's don't "roar combo" anymore into a OHKO. Rathalos doesn't count because his jumpback fireball is easily avoided by not standing under his head in the first place. Urgaan can, but it is nothing to worry about unless you are attacking his head (mostly hammer users). All the other "roar combos" are rare and not a OHKO.
The one-hit KOs are NOT what you are worried about with roars. There are very few OHKO attacks, and most of them are only if you don't have Fire Resist. What you are worried about is when you are at 3/4 to 1/2 health due to monster nick damage, and then he suddenly roars. Then you eat an attack and it's kitty cart time for you. You are talking about ideal full-health situations, which isn't what's going to happen during a hunt, no matter how good you are.
Gigginox can easily roar into a combo, often leaving you poisoned in its wake. Uragaan's roar actually isn't that bad as a longsword user, since usually you are loitering near his tail and legs anyway and not near the chinsmacks. Rathalos and Rathian can both Roar combo. I've seen Rathian do it in the AIR, and then tailwhip from the air, although Rathian is so easy that I'm not too concerned about it. Barioth loves to roar and then quickly smack you. The list goes on and on.
You can live without Earplugs, for sure. But without blocking, there are few options for mitigating them.
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Mind's Eye is pointless with LS because LS has innate Mind's Eye during spirit combo. Affinity upgrade from the armor is not a huge damage boost. HG Earplug is a fine skill and all, but Evade + 1/2 is much better. You can roll through all the roars that way, as well as any other attacks. It also lets you roll through stuff like Deviljoes breath attack, or hell just about anything.
Pfft. Show me a person with Evade +2, and I'll show you a hunter who only evades maybe 10% more attacks, at most. Positioning is far more important than last-second roll shenanigans. You can't roll through all roars, and to roll through a roar, you have to be able to anticipate it, just like blocking. Blocking/Rolling roars isn't a pro-technique... it just means you were at the right place at the right time, unlike the hundreds of times you will be in less-than-ideal situations. Like sitting underneath Alatreon when he instant-roars, for example.
Rolling isn't an integral part of Longsword combat, anyway. You don't dart in, strike, and then roll like Sword and Shield, and you don't need more invulnerability frames in a backhop like Lances. You usually strike and then use one of the dashing slash attacks to get out, which do not benefit from Evade +2.
I'd say Mind's Eye has less value for Longsword than most, because of Spirit Combos, but it can be annoying to build up Spirit Gauge on monsters with tough hides. It's not "pointless" (Dungmaster in a Stable environment is pointless), but it's not generally needed. Rathalos is still fine armor that has better skills than a lot of armors.
HGE isn't as important in MH3 because most monster's don't "roar combo" anymore into a OHKO. Rathalos doesn't count because his jumpback fireball is easily avoided by not standing under his head in the first place. Urgaan can, but it is nothing to worry about unless you are attacking his head (mostly hammer users). All the other "roar combos" are rare and not a OHKO.
The one-hit KOs are NOT what you are worried about with roars. There are very few OHKO attacks, and most of them are only if you don't have Fire Resist. What you are worried about is when you are at 3/4 to 1/2 health due to monster nick damage, and then he suddenly roars. Then you eat an attack and it's kitty cart time for you. You are talking about ideal full-health situations, which isn't what's going to happen during a hunt, no matter how good you are.
Gigginox can easily roar into a combo, often leaving you poisoned in its wake. Uragaan's roar actually isn't that bad as a longsword user, since usually you are loitering near his tail and legs anyway and not near the chinsmacks. Rathalos and Rathian can both Roar combo. I've seen Rathian do it in the AIR, and then tailwhip from the air, although Rathian is so easy that I'm not too concerned about it. Barioth loves to roar and then quickly smack you. The list goes on and on.
You can live without Earplugs, for sure. But without blocking, there are few options for mitigating them.
Man you guys did not make this decision any easier! BUT, I do like how different the opinions on the armor are... I have a lot of thinking to do. Thanks!
While earplugs as a defensive measure are the main concern, I also posit that you should consider it for its offensive merits as well; any time a monster is wasting several seconds roaring, is time for you to be attacking. Being earplugged means you can take advantage of that window.
Mind you, blocking can work as well, but not all weapons block. Also, you still lose out on a few moments of animation to block a roar before being able to move about.
It may not be the first thing you think of for the skill, but it certainly is a nice perk to consider.
And evade in general is nice, but I agree that there are some things that you can't (or at least, won't always be able to. Circumstances never give perfect situations for this sort of thing) evade out of. Now evade inc with evade +2 is another story, but even then it still falls into the same category.
Mind's Eye is pointless with LS because LS has innate Mind's Eye during spirit combo. Affinity upgrade from the armor is not a huge damage boost. HG Earplug is a fine skill and all, but Evade + 1/2 is much better. You can roll through all the roars that way, as well as any other attacks. It also lets you roll through stuff like Deviljoes breath attack, or hell just about anything.
Pfft. Show me a person with Evade +2, and I'll show you a hunter who only evades maybe 10% more attacks, at most. Positioning is far more important than last-second roll shenanigans. You can't roll through all roars, and to roll through a roar, you have to be able to anticipate it, just like blocking. Blocking/Rolling roars isn't a pro-technique... it just means you were at the right place at the right time, unlike the hundreds of times you will be in less-than-ideal situations. Like sitting underneath Alatreon when he instant-roars, for example.
Rolling isn't an integral part of Longsword combat, anyway. You don't dart in, strike, and then roll like Sword and Shield, and you don't need more invulnerability frames in a backhop like Lances. You usually strike and then use one of the dashing slash attacks to get out, which do not benefit from Evade +2.
I'd say Mind's Eye has less value for Longsword than most, because of Spirit Combos, but it can be annoying to build up Spirit Gauge on monsters with tough hides. It's not "pointless" (Dungmaster in a Stable environment is pointless), but it's not generally needed. Rathalos is still fine armor that has better skills than a lot of armors.
HGE isn't as important in MH3 because most monster's don't "roar combo" anymore into a OHKO. Rathalos doesn't count because his jumpback fireball is easily avoided by not standing under his head in the first place. Urgaan can, but it is nothing to worry about unless you are attacking his head (mostly hammer users). All the other "roar combos" are rare and not a OHKO.
The one-hit KOs are NOT what you are worried about with roars. There are very few OHKO attacks, and most of them are only if you don't have Fire Resist. What you are worried about is when you are at 3/4 to 1/2 health due to monster nick damage, and then he suddenly roars. Then you eat an attack and it's kitty cart time for you. You are talking about ideal full-health situations, which isn't what's going to happen during a hunt, no matter how good you are.
Gigginox can easily roar into a combo, often leaving you poisoned in its wake. Uragaan's roar actually isn't that bad as a longsword user, since usually you are loitering near his tail and legs anyway and not near the chinsmacks. Rathalos and Rathian can both Roar combo. I've seen Rathian do it in the AIR, and then tailwhip from the air, although Rathian is so easy that I'm not too concerned about it. Barioth loves to roar and then quickly smack you. The list goes on and on.
You can live without Earplugs, for sure. But without blocking, there are few options for mitigating them.
Man you guys did not make this decision any easier! BUT, I do like how different the opinions on the armor are... I have a lot of thinking to do. Thanks!
Yeah, this is the kind of information I wish the wiki had...
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edited May 2010
So is the Jhen Mohran quest still up
I'd like to give that a shot tonight, but it'll be low rank for me
I based my armor decision on the fact that I enjoy twitch based reaction play, so Evasion+ it was. The network model however, has sometimes made my roar dodging skills less than reliable. I've built a Rathian+ set now so those two motherfuckers in Double Trouble can't pin me down anymore!
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I quit the apartment because of my charging roommate.
Zoidberg,do you want to do some hunting tonight after I am back from work? I haven't hunted in days.
Sounds like a good idea. I want you to see my absolutely horrifying gunner gear I am wearing. Skull Mask, Agnaktor chest, Lagi arms and waist and Uragaan leggings.
What madness is this you ask? Torso up x 2.
I plan to tweak it in the future to maybe provide better stats but as it stands I have Normal Shot damage+, Normal Shot capacity+, Trap Master, Capture Guru, Divine Blessing aaaand I think that's it. Still have 200+ defense and 2 pieces still need upgrading.
Will still look into getting a Status+ set but this set is a good all rounder for any monster kill.
Heyyyyy, I might be able to get online too, but I don't want to hold you guys back.
Still need a few Barroth bits - Fertile mud, Monster Bone L, and a Flame Sac from a Rathian.
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i just can''t seem to make a dent in him lately. the problem is not avoiding his attacks. its the moving in to actually hit him before he stomps me good
Once he stops moving around so much, triple-pound his head, stun him, break his crest - it's a lot easier to smack him once he's tired himself out.
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I plan to use the Reaver so I would have an Awaken skill so the Lagi+ gets points for that and it also would then boost my Elemental. Not bad.
Alos+ gives me crazy crit and Mind's Eye. If I understand that right it means my weapon wouldn't bounce anymore? That sounds awesome.
So what do you guys think?
Yeah attack boost is the best place to go, higher damage is better then affinity, and all the upgrade paths final one has 3 slots all the same I think?
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Lagiacrus+ has negative Fire resist, which is the only resist that matters at all (so many things use it). Even with high armor, a raged jump bazooka hit from Rathalos will one-shot you. It's not a bad chioce otherwise, but there aren't many Awakening weapons that are actually worth using for the element, and for Longsword in particular, I really only used the Wyvern blade, Gobul blade, and Alatreon/Deviljho weapons.
Rathalos is a good choice, and it's quite popular from what I've seen online.
But yeah, a Rathian+ mix will take you through the entire game, only because of a single skill.
Mind's Eye is pointless with LS because LS has innate Mind's Eye during spirit combo. Affinity upgrade from the armor is not a huge damage boost. HG Earplug is a fine skill and all, but Evade + 1/2 is much better. You can roll through all the roars that way, as well as any other attacks. It also lets you roll through stuff like Deviljoes breath attack, or hell just about anything.
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Yes and how many of them are going to waste time helping out low HR dudes
Ahhhh so much to think about! Do roars get worse later in the game? I've yet to get hit because of a roar. As for the Mind's Eye I didn't think about that.... granted on bosses I don't spend much time with spirit combo... and when I do I tend to just use it for the attack boost because trying the whole combo leaves me wide open for hits.
Hmmmm so Evasion is where it's at? Would you suggest Barioth+ then? It still has the -Fire Resist but I guess if you dodge enough it won't matter? Bah! So confused!
Edit: What would be a good skill to add to Barioth+ Jewel wise?
Out of my 200 hours played I spent at least 50-75 hours doing quests with lower ranked people to get them up to speed so we could progress together.
Just sayin'
Rathalos in particular likes to pin you with a roar and then jump back fireball before you can recover. Uruagaan has also been known to roar and then reduce a stunned hunter into chin paste.
However as people have said, roars can be blocked (even lance countered) or dodged through. That said with earplugs you don't have to take any evasive maneuvres at all, so a monster roaring means a decent amount of free time for you to wail on them, and all monsters roar so it's universally useful.
Lagi blademaster armor is nice for low rank stuff as long as you are aware of the poor fire resist, I really like the Lagi switchaxe too as it's got decent sharpness and Thunder element is good against a bunch of enemies
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You can fight him with a SA, he's like a big royal lud, he just he has a couple extra tricks (aoe lightning splosions being the primary difference). One thing to get used to, when he actively swims away from you (but not fleeing), get ready to dodge to your left, he's about to dive bomb you. This can be really nasty when he's raged because he'll be electried which adds damage and he'll follow it up with a body slam.
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Protip: If you need Mohran Braces, attack his arms.
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So enough whinging, just wanted to put that out there.
Just watched a Zeropunctiation review of MH3 which I found quite funny, so if you know it hit it up.
Now Im heading out again to check out an appartment...
I hope there is a Baroth there..
That... that would be the worst apartment.
Just think of the mess!
Still, if only he'd mentioned more giant monster killing. The first time you go toe-to-toe against a Barroth for 30 minutes and watching it wear down until you get the kill is pretty exhilarating.
Just think. You would be the first person in history to quit an apartment and return it :P
Zoidberg,do you want to do some hunting tonight after I am back from work? I haven't hunted in days.
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Sounds like a good idea. I want you to see my absolutely horrifying gunner gear I am wearing. Skull Mask, Agnaktor chest, Lagi arms and waist and Uragaan leggings.
What madness is this you ask? Torso up x 2.
I plan to tweak it in the future to maybe provide better stats but as it stands I have Normal Shot damage+, Normal Shot capacity+, Trap Master, Capture Guru, Divine Blessing aaaand I think that's it. Still have 200+ defense and 2 pieces still need upgrading.
Will still look into getting a Status+ set but this set is a good all rounder for any monster kill.
For me, if you're a PAer, I'll probably be happy to help you on low-ranked quests. Of course, I need to be able to see you're a PAer (in your hunter status or being on the first page list). Otherwise, it'll depend a lot more on my mood if I'll help a PUG. Generally if it's just me and them, I might help, but if I'm with other people doing high-ranks and a 1* PUG comes in and just expects us to drop everything and join his quest, I'm gonna raise an eyebrow and be much less inclined to help unless the others want to help as well.
For the most part, once I've farmed up the week's new event quest components, I become more relaxed and am willing to do anything. Event quests are also a great reason for high-ranks and low-ranks to play together.
Speaking of which, Mini-uragaan is SO CUTE! He's also incredibly hard to capture.
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Rolling isn't an integral part of Longsword combat, anyway. You don't dart in, strike, and then roll like Sword and Shield, and you don't need more invulnerability frames in a backhop like Lances. You usually strike and then use one of the dashing slash attacks to get out, which do not benefit from Evade +2.
I'd say Mind's Eye has less value for Longsword than most, because of Spirit Combos, but it can be annoying to build up Spirit Gauge on monsters with tough hides. It's not "pointless" (Dungmaster in a Stable environment is pointless), but it's not generally needed. Rathalos is still fine armor that has better skills than a lot of armors.
The one-hit KOs are NOT what you are worried about with roars. There are very few OHKO attacks, and most of them are only if you don't have Fire Resist. What you are worried about is when you are at 3/4 to 1/2 health due to monster nick damage, and then he suddenly roars. Then you eat an attack and it's kitty cart time for you. You are talking about ideal full-health situations, which isn't what's going to happen during a hunt, no matter how good you are.
Gigginox can easily roar into a combo, often leaving you poisoned in its wake. Uragaan's roar actually isn't that bad as a longsword user, since usually you are loitering near his tail and legs anyway and not near the chinsmacks. Rathalos and Rathian can both Roar combo. I've seen Rathian do it in the AIR, and then tailwhip from the air, although Rathian is so easy that I'm not too concerned about it. Barioth loves to roar and then quickly smack you. The list goes on and on.
You can live without Earplugs, for sure. But without blocking, there are few options for mitigating them.
Man you guys did not make this decision any easier! BUT, I do like how different the opinions on the armor are... I have a lot of thinking to do. Thanks!
Mind you, blocking can work as well, but not all weapons block. Also, you still lose out on a few moments of animation to block a roar before being able to move about.
It may not be the first thing you think of for the skill, but it certainly is a nice perk to consider.
And evade in general is nice, but I agree that there are some things that you can't (or at least, won't always be able to. Circumstances never give perfect situations for this sort of thing) evade out of. Now evade inc with evade +2 is another story, but even then it still falls into the same category.
Yeah, this is the kind of information I wish the wiki had...
I'd like to give that a shot tonight, but it'll be low rank for me
Heyyyyy, I might be able to get online too, but I don't want to hold you guys back.
Still need a few Barroth bits - Fertile mud, Monster Bone L, and a Flame Sac from a Rathian.
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