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Mon Hun 3, where lances go in Barroths after breaking out his fertile mud.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    aye that was me. didn't really steal him, i was falling asleep anyways and that was my last quest for the night.

    but yes. i was mightily offended and demand retribution

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    mts wrote: »
    aye that was me. didn't really steal him, i was falling asleep anyways and that was my last quest for the night.

    but yes. i was mightily offended and demand retribution

    Haha, well pop in to city 36 some time, Me and my friend have been working on getting his girlfriend caught up so we have been doing a lot of low rank stuff. You can join in the fun!

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    well if squirrel and stryker aren't on tonight, i kind of want to try and get the cold call sword.

    though i am always up for part farming. i kind of want giggi armor since it is essentially a batman costume. though both rath armors look bitchin

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  • SagaxusSagaxus Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I fought my first Diablos just now. Went in with ten mega potions, ten potions, the ingredients to make ten more potions, and at least 7 things of honey.

    55 minutes later I emerge victorious, with only 2 mega potions left. Everything else gone.

    That could have gone a lot better, but getting that killing blow was so fucking rewarding like god damn.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    there is something about the feeling you get from chomping down your last potion and then hearing the quest ended music with virtually no life left

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  • SLZMatrixSLZMatrix Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    that and breaking parts; rath's tail, quru's face(looks kinda funny), or in the case of last night, ura's chin :D btw, im slightly pissed that now im in high rank since i'll need high rank armour. will my current maxed out los blade or ura gunner work?

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  • Halos Nach TariffHalos Nach Tariff Can you blame me? I'm too famous.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Uragaan D: I am really bad at fighting this guy, I have no idea what moves he's going to do, or how to dodge them. It's very embarrasing...

    In other news I got up to HR23-ish with some decent swords, great fun.

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  • flammiebcflammiebc Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Uragaan's pretty much about situational awareness and conserving enough time to get out of the way. In general though, being around the base of the tail should keep you away from most of the lunges and chin pounds.

    Unfortunately, the only way to really learn the timings and how aggressive you can be is to get thrashed until you can get a feel for it, but that's monster hunter for you :)

    Props to maddoc for the narga recommendation as well; got a heavenly after an hour or so, and it's pretty quick to force the shiny drops with all the bombs. 3 more to go!

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    yea i got stomped the first time i fought uragaan. it didn't help that not knowing the timing of his attacks/movements i would constantly get caught in animations that left me helpless. got to stick and move.

    conversely, first time i fought rathalos i did pretty well i think but he is similar to rathian.

    gigginox is a pain though. its hard to get in close enough to hit him without getting run over.

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Tip to learn Uragaan the easy way: Do the phantom Uragaan event quest. I did that before ever fighting the real Uragaan..... and learned all his moves in a safe environment so I whomped him when I fought the real one.

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  • Halos Nach TariffHalos Nach Tariff Can you blame me? I'm too famous.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Makes sense, I did kill him eventually but it was him who was dominating the fight; I got his tail off but he killed me twice. I kept swinging wildly, bouncing off his chin and setting myself up for a chin pound. Of course it doesn't help that I'm using Barioth armour with hugely low Fire Res...

    Ah well, I don't need to fight him on my own again and beating him unlocked Ceadeus, and Agnaktor. What's Agnaktor's difficulty like? Tougher than Urugaan?

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  • SigtyrSigtyr Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Fighting him online makes him a piece of Cake. Since you'll get plenty of chances to wail on him. Offline, he's not as forgiving.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Uragaan is about Mind's Eye

    There, I said it.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Uragaan is about Mind's Eye

    There, I said it.

    I don't find mind's eye useful against him, since you still do greatly reduced damage and take the high sharpness hit on glancing blows. If you are trying to break his chin you might as well hammer it, otherwise his belly or the underside of his tail are better targets.

    The easiest thing to do against non-mini uragaan might just be water bowguns, though.

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  • MonkeyConQuesoMonkeyConQueso No more MH Claw Happy handsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Uragaan is about Mind's Eye

    There, I said it.

    I don't find mind's eye useful against him, since you still do greatly reduced damage and take the high sharpness hit on glancing blows. If you are trying to break his chin you might as well hammer it, otherwise his belly or the underside of his tail are better targets.

    The easiest thing to do against non-mini uragaan might just be water bowguns, though.

    I'm quite a fan of hammering his face over and over. Sometimes I get out of the groove though, and get totally destroyed. Or, other players get too close to his face (or I get closer than I should (which is usually the case (but not always (...but usually is)))) while I'm superpounding, and I send them into a lovely Ura lava steam bath. Just ask Iceburner :(

    Any ways, getting into a hammering groove isn't that hard, and you're given a hard and fast lesson in his tells.

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  • SLZMatrixSLZMatrix Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    yeah, having a hammer makes breaking his chin so much easier :D but now that im in full rank, will the ura gunner armor and los blade be any use? or should i be making chain, hunter or jaggi +?

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  • VrayVray Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Alloy+ is easy enough to make. From there you could probably jump right into Rathian hunts. Rathian+ armor will go a long long way.

    Vray on
  • SLZMatrixSLZMatrix Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Vray wrote: »
    Alloy+ is easy enough to make. From there you could probably jump right into Rathian hunts. Rathian+ armor will go a long long way.
    alright, but then what was the point of me making uragaan if im not going to use it until i upgrade?

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  • VrayVray Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    SLZMatrix wrote: »
    Vray wrote: »
    Alloy+ is easy enough to make. From there you could probably jump right into Rathian hunts. Rathian+ armor will go a long long way.
    alright, but then what was the point of me making uragaan if im not going to use it until i upgrade?

    They look cool?

    Basically, the defense values for low rank armor end (preupgrade) where HR armor like chainmail+ and better begin.

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  • SLZMatrixSLZMatrix Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Vray wrote: »
    SLZMatrix wrote: »
    Vray wrote: »
    Alloy+ is easy enough to make. From there you could probably jump right into Rathian hunts. Rathian+ armor will go a long long way.
    alright, but then what was the point of me making uragaan if im not going to use it until i upgrade?

    They look cool?

    Basically, the defense values for low rank armor end (preupgrade) where HR armor like chainmail+ and better begin.

    okay, i think i get it now, sucks, but i get it XD, im just glad that once i do reach uragaan high rank, i wont need any jaws to make my current armour +

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    is anyone on right now? trying to find some 3* quests

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  • SLZMatrixSLZMatrix Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    mts wrote: »
    is anyone on right now? trying to find some 3* quests
    I will be, just messing around offline, argosy's in town

    EDIT: where will u be? im guessing the forum's usual server? That's where i'm chilling as of... now

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    i can meet you there

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    in gate 9 city 1

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  • SLZMatrixSLZMatrix Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Nope, not going to work, at least Vray's on.

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  • SagaxusSagaxus Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I don't think the RNG wants me to finish my set of Rathian armor. I need 2 whole wyvern claws to make the very last piece.

    After 6+ kills/captures I have not gotten a single one. However, there was one time where I got 25 wyvern fangs, as well as five charms and an armor sphere, all in one quest. I'd rather have gotten a claw.

    I'm beginning to think that breaking Rathian's wings doesn't give a 22% chance of a claw drop, but rather erases the claw drop percentage from the drop table.

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  • VrayVray Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Sagaxus wrote: »
    I don't think the RNG wants me to finish my set of Rathian armor. I need 2 whole wyvern claws to make the very last piece.

    After 6+ kills/captures I have not gotten a single one. However, there was one time where I got 25 wyvern fangs, as well as five charms and an armor sphere, all in one quest. I'd rather have gotten a claw.

    I'm beginning to think that breaking Rathian's wings doesn't give a 22% chance of a claw drop, but rather erases the claw drop percentage from the drop table.

    You can trade for wyvern claws from the argosy captain so long as you don't have him bypass the wyverian hub.

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  • SagaxusSagaxus Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Vray wrote: »
    Sagaxus wrote: »
    I don't think the RNG wants me to finish my set of Rathian armor. I need 2 whole wyvern claws to make the very last piece.

    After 6+ kills/captures I have not gotten a single one. However, there was one time where I got 25 wyvern fangs, as well as five charms and an armor sphere, all in one quest. I'd rather have gotten a claw.

    I'm beginning to think that breaking Rathian's wings doesn't give a 22% chance of a claw drop, but rather erases the claw drop percentage from the drop table.

    You can trade for wyvern claws from the argosy captain so long as you don't have him bypass the wyverian hub.

    Ffffffuuuuu--

    Okay, gonna do that. Thanks for telling me before I went insane.

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    You can also trade Wyvern Claws from other people.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    ...Are lances cheap? I ask because I heard how someone switched away from Lances because he felt they were too cheap, and I love lances but I don't want to feel like I'm being cheap.

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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Enlong wrote: »
    ...Are lances cheap? I ask because I heard how someone switched away from Lances because he felt they were too cheap, and I love lances but I don't want to feel like I'm being cheap.

    They're a defensive style of play. You can, with the right skills, guard any attack.

    But it's not as easy as it sounds and to be good at it you need practice. It takes some skill to get the counter charge attack right and to deal with the slowness in weilding the weapon. All things have their cost.

    Also know that the charge attack is awesome but in multiplayer is better used as a mobility tool and should be canceled out of or you'll knock people around.

    I take it as a challenge to play with them and learn to get a balance between the defense and offense.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    so i think i need to build up something with a guard ability. i had originally tried the great sword but it felt clunky to me. i only tried lances a little but the defensive style didn't sit well with me. I like sword and shield but the low damage ability worries me against tough foes (urragaan etc)

    maybe i will try GS again since i am more experienced and kind of no what i am doing now

    So it also seems like i could use better armor.

    i have high upgraded low-rank baggi armor but i still got 3-4 shotted a couple times last night by diablos and barioth. was thinking of trying to put together a rathalos/rathian set though i am not set on that. barioth armor does looks pretty cool as goes giggi, but looking cool only gets you so far

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Well, if you're going with something that can guard, you really can't go wrong with Agnaktor armor.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    well that will be hard since i can't fight agnaktor yet.

    thinking i might build up a barioth armor for my hammers and then use that to build up a urragen/diablos mix

    also last night i was jumping around the valor servers to find some quests and man i was surprised how many people had no active skills at all.

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  • IceBurnerIceBurner It's cold and there are penguins.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Y'know I'm thinking now that the 3DS is going to be much more suited for MH games than PSP.

    With 2 screens you no longer need the UI or menus on top of the action. Just you, the land, and the monsters.

    Wth a touch screen, the menus and item management are a breeze and also no longer need to interfere with control over your character. Just think of the 10-item hot-bar available in MH Frontier. Poke an item to use it, with an arrow or two to cycle through your stuff a group at a time. This would also free the L button to exclusively re-center viewpoint and quick-aim (like it used to be in MH1/2, and trust me it works better).

    The gyroscope and accelerometer or even the video camera could even be used for gestural in-game camera control, in addition to the D-pad. The Claw? What's that?

    Well, we'll see what happens. Here's hoping, though.

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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    IceBurner wrote: »
    Y'know I'm thinking now that the 3DS is going to be much more suited for MH games than PSP.

    With 2 screens you no longer need the UI or menus on top of the action. Just you, the land, and the monsters.

    Wth a touch screen, the menus and item management are a breeze and also no longer need to interfere with control over your character. This would also devote the L button exclusively to re-center viewpoint and quick-aim (like it used to be in MH1/2, and trust me it works better).

    The gyroscope and accelerometer or even the video camera could even be used for gestural in-game camera control, in addition to the D-pad. The Claw? What's that?

    Well, we'll see what happens. Here's hoping, though.

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  • IceBurnerIceBurner It's cold and there are penguins.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Well if reports are to be believed, Capcom's already got a version of MT Framework going on 3DS and Monster Hunter is perhaps their only major franchise not to have a port to that engine yet -- eventually it will need one, and it will cost the least to start with a portable version ...

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  • AngrySquirrelAngrySquirrel Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    mts, how close are you to HR31 now? I made it all the way to high rank wearing baggi /w jaggi mask, rathian /w jaggi mask, or helios depending on the fight (all fully upgraded for low rank). Stryker and I were able to duo HR Rathian wearing regular rathian and then upgrading its defense between fights with the +parts we got from the previous fights.

    If you have completed the single player farm ceadeus to put together the helios armor for when you need a high defense above everything else. Rathian for when you really need a high fire res and baggi for all else (it was my capture farming set).

    Stryker hasn't finished single yet so he didn't have helios so I'm not sure what he used for a high def set, but he didn't seem to struggle too much in most fights (at least online :P ).

    As for your questions about guard... I really don't know. I didn't like SnS at all, barely used a water GS on the Raths before getting a water hammer and finally going back to my Dragon SA for them. I've only used lance a little here and there, mostly for lagi cause its a much easier fight when you play defensively and let him charge you then poke away.

    Stryker however has been using a GS lately when he isn't using a longsword so he might have some tips there.

    Also, I should be on a little tonight to help get you closer to 31.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I still have a ways. only at 22 i think.

    i probably still need to get more experience with some of the 3* (online) monsters so i can avoid some of the attacks that got me. but it would be nice to have a high defense set.

    i haven't beaten single player yet. i switched to mostly online at the 4* level. though i need to harvest some resources etc. i am running low on a lot of things.

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  • MonkeyConQuesoMonkeyConQueso No more MH Claw Happy handsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    mts wrote: »
    i am running low on a lot of things.

    The story of every hunter.

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