Is anyone else sick of the "man, my cousin's brother's aunt's friend knows a guy, and he's got like a ps4, and it can download the internet, and it plays games from every system. Sony bough out microsoft and nintendo, and they're making their own ps4 car. Man it's totally true, you're a fucking dick for not believing me man. I know a guy. Seriously. I do. Whatever fag, I'm out."
This is the first time I've ever seen aything like that.
Gotta admit, I'm pretty sick of it.
EDIT: Also tired of hearing this one in stores "[SYSTEM A] had way more graphics than [SYSTEM B]. But the Wii barely has any graphics." (A & B are interchangable 360 and PS3)
Not only is this a retarded argument to have, but it's not like they put some quantity of some magical substance named "graphics" into these things.
Back in the day it was "bits" ...but now we don't really have that anymore so average dumbfuck doesn't have anything to go off of.
That reminds me... back in the PSX vs. N64 days, I can't recall how many times I heard someone say the PSX had WAY WAY WAY better graphics than the N64... and the whole time they were mindlessly referring to FMV movies, thinking that they were "graphics."
Kind of off topic, but, I really hated back in the SNES/Genesis days when people would refer to video games as "Game Tapes". Whenever someone said that I wanted to choke them to death.
I mean, where does that leave games like Guitar hero? DDR? The graphics are nothing to write home about.
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Kind of off topic, but, I really hated back in the SNES/Genesis days when people would refer to video games as "Game Tapes". Whenever someone said that I wanted to choke them to death.
What's worse, is I still hear the term now, mainly for DS and GBA releases, but I've heard for every console at least once.
That reminds me... back in the PSX vs. N64 days, I can't recall how many times I heard someone say the PSX had WAY WAY WAY better graphics than the N64... and the whole time they were mindlessly referring to FMV movies, thinking that they were "graphics."
That is just stupid.
I never ran into anybody grossly misinformed about gaming.
That reminds me... back in the PSX vs. N64 days, I can't recall how many times I heard someone say the PSX had WAY WAY WAY better graphics than the N64... and the whole time they were mindlessly referring to FMV movies, thinking that they were "graphics."
That is just stupid.
I never ran into anybody grossly misinformed about gaming.
seemed like eveyone on my block beleived that. I blame final fantasy.
That reminds me... back in the PSX vs. N64 days, I can't recall how many times I heard someone say the PSX had WAY WAY WAY better graphics than the N64... and the whole time they were mindlessly referring to FMV movies, thinking that they were "graphics."
That is just stupid.
I never ran into anybody grossly misinformed about gaming.
seemed like eveyone on my block beleived that at. I blame final fantasy.
All this EBStop hate. I HATE the preorder push as much as anyone else, but I just make it a point to return quickly to rub it in their face that I can/did get it much cheaper elsewhere on the same day. I've preordered to help the number of employees that helped me. I preordered Wario Ware for the Wii, Resident Evil for the PC, and Half-Life 2 for the PS3. I never heared anything about Wario Ware and Resident Evil despite the release and expected release of those titles coming and going. Wario Ware may be because my answering machine plays a clip of someone fumbling with the phone and hanging up, but RE4 was supposed to be last November!
I went in today to move HL2:Orange (as it's now known) and Wario Ware to RE4. I never intended to buy those there for full price anyway (I just wanted to satisfy them that I wasn't a PS3 and Wii eBay scalper)... RE4 may never show at other retailers and I'd like to raise my store's rank on the PC sales radar. It was painless. Now I've got $15 toward the $30 PC game after moving the preorder amounts to it. But that's not all. THey happily checked the price of a bunch of PC games for me (identifying several super-cheapies). I ended up picking up some $5 PC games like Tatio arcade collection and a Half-Life 2 guide marked $5 for $3.99. Then I noticed a thick Quake 4 box behind the counter that wasn't either of the editions I knew of. When he checked it, it was a preorder bonus T-shirt in a box. He peeled the price off and just gave it to me.
All in all, I loved the visit and I'll hunt there often even if it means fending off the preorder push. To me, preordering just means getting roped into paying full price!
That reminds me... back in the PSX vs. N64 days, I can't recall how many times I heard someone say the PSX had WAY WAY WAY better graphics than the N64... and the whole time they were mindlessly referring to FMV movies, thinking that they were "graphics."
That is just stupid.
I never ran into anybody grossly misinformed about gaming.
seemed like eveyone on my block beleived that at. I blame final fantasy.
Playstation can render a perfect sphere!
Actually, the "FMV" in FF7 is rendered in real time by the PlayStation. The problem was, that the PS controller was so advanced that it taxed the system greatly to process the input. As a result, the true power of the PlayStation could only be displayed during non-interactive parts of the game.
That reminds me... back in the PSX vs. N64 days, I can't recall how many times I heard someone say the PSX had WAY WAY WAY better graphics than the N64... and the whole time they were mindlessly referring to FMV movies, thinking that they were "graphics."
That is just stupid.
I never ran into anybody grossly misinformed about gaming.
I have a friend and we were playing Tales of Symphonia together. I was showing him the costumes and cutscenes (not the FMV cutscenes), and he observed that Namco had put a lot of effort into remaking every cutscene with only the costumes being different. That's when I realized he thought that background, foreground, everything on the TV screen was all part of the same frame, and everything had to be redrawn or rerendered in order for any animation to occur. I had to explain to him the concept of text layers, background, the character you control, special effects layer, etc.
Anyways, I don't blame him for his ignorance. I used to be like that too. I think, unless you're told otherwise or you're observant enough, you don't really bother to tell the difference between gameplay and FMV.
That reminds me... back in the PSX vs. N64 days, I can't recall how many times I heard someone say the PSX had WAY WAY WAY better graphics than the N64... and the whole time they were mindlessly referring to FMV movies, thinking that they were "graphics."
That is just stupid.
I never ran into anybody grossly misinformed about gaming.
I have a friend and we were playing Tales of Symphonia together. I was showing him the costumes and cutscenes (not the FMV cutscenes), and he observed that Namco had put a lot of effort into remaking every cutscene with only the costumes being different. That's when I realized he thought that background, foreground, everything on the TV screen was all part of the same frame, and everything had to be redrawn or rerendered in order for any animation to occur. I had to explain to him the concept of text layers, background, the character you control, special effects layer, etc.
Anyways, I don't blame him for his ignorance. I used to be like that too. I think, unless you're told otherwise or you're observant enough, you don't really bother to tell the difference between gameplay and FMV.
Back in the PSX days though... I think you had to be mentally retarded to not be able to tell the difference between an FMV sequence and gameplay. I mean honestly.
That reminds me... back in the PSX vs. N64 days, I can't recall how many times I heard someone say the PSX had WAY WAY WAY better graphics than the N64... and the whole time they were mindlessly referring to FMV movies, thinking that they were "graphics."
That is just stupid.
I never ran into anybody grossly misinformed about gaming.
I have a friend and we were playing Tales of Symphonia together. I was showing him the costumes and cutscenes (not the FMV cutscenes), and he observed that Namco had put a lot of effort into remaking every cutscene with only the costumes being different. That's when I realized he thought that background, foreground, everything on the TV screen was all part of the same frame, and everything had to be redrawn or rerendered in order for any animation to occur. I had to explain to him the concept of text layers, background, the character you control, special effects layer, etc.
Anyways, I don't blame him for his ignorance. I used to be like that too. I think, unless you're told otherwise or you're observant enough, you don't really bother to tell the difference between gameplay and FMV.
Back in the PSX days though... I think you had to be mentally retarded to not be able to tell the difference between an FMV sequence and gameplay. I mean honestly.
I mean, they're the reason games still come out on CD.
Is that true? If it is, I want Walmart to go to hell.
Wait... Games don't come out on CD. They come out on DVD. And if you're complaining that they come out on DVD, what's the alternative? Energy cube?
I think he means computer games, most of which do come on CDs.
Correct. Wal-Mart is the sole reason that publishers are leery of fully abandoning multiple CDs in large games. Wal-Mart is the sole reason that publishers still release six CD titles rather than putting it all on one DVD. This I got directly from CDV Software. Wal-Mart customers have a habit of purchasing DVD titles and returning them in droves because they don't have DVD-ROMs.
I don't think the issue will exist much longer because soon it will be inconceivable that a person can expect to run a game with their computer if it doesn't have, at the very least, a DVD-ROM drive anyway - a technology that has been available since, what, 1997? 1998?
But, as of right now, pressure from Wal-Mart is the primary reason behind publishers manufacturing their games on CD rather than DVD.
Okay so, to be clear, it's not Wal-Mart's fault. It would be the fault of people who don't have DVD-ROM drives. I don't have a DVD-ROM and my computer is only like 2 years old. (Bargain basement, I admit...) Wal-Mart isn't pressuring the publishers because it hates DVDs, it's because the consumers don't have DVD drives.
If you want to blame a giant company, how about the computer manufactures who aren't making DVD-ROMS standard...
While consumer stupidity may be the root cause, and that's debatable, Wal-Mart directly lobbies/pressures publishers to manufacture games on CD-ROM. So they, I think, garner most or all of the blame, not the customers. The PR folk I spoke to also blame Wal-Mart and not the consumers (directly). It is most definitely Wal-Mart's fault.
And DVD-ROMs are standard and have been for a long time. DVD-R burners are actually standard now. I don't even think CD-ROM drives are purchasable anymore. The average Wal-Mart consumer is probably trying to use his never-upgraded 486 DX2/66 or something.
Wouldn't these people return their games anyway? For games that aren't budget titles or adventure games, wouldn't 99% of the computers able to handle the RAM and GPU requirements already have a $16 DVD drive? Even non-FPS games aren't going to run on a Voodoo 2 nowadays. Or is Wal-Mart's reasoning actually correct somehow?
Probably, but when they get home and can't even load the disc to find out that the game is too powerful to run, they're return reason is "I don't have a DVD drive" and that becomes Wal-Mart's focus.
That reminds me... back in the PSX vs. N64 days, I can't recall how many times I heard someone say the PSX had WAY WAY WAY better graphics than the N64... and the whole time they were mindlessly referring to FMV movies, thinking that they were "graphics."
That is just stupid.
I never ran into anybody grossly misinformed about gaming.
I have a friend and we were playing Tales of Symphonia together. I was showing him the costumes and cutscenes (not the FMV cutscenes), and he observed that Namco had put a lot of effort into remaking every cutscene with only the costumes being different. That's when I realized he thought that background, foreground, everything on the TV screen was all part of the same frame, and everything had to be redrawn or rerendered in order for any animation to occur. I had to explain to him the concept of text layers, background, the character you control, special effects layer, etc.
Anyways, I don't blame him for his ignorance. I used to be like that too. I think, unless you're told otherwise or you're observant enough, you don't really bother to tell the difference between gameplay and FMV.
Back in the PSX days though... I think you had to be mentally retarded to not be able to tell the difference between an FMV sequence and gameplay. I mean honestly.
Oh, okie then. I wouldn't know anything about that.
But... that friend of mine again... He watched the opening of Tales of Symphonia, the one that is obviously not gameplay, and said, "Symphonia's gameplay is pretty close to anime. But one day, video games will be able to look exactly like this opening movie."
Kind of off topic, but, I really hated back in the SNES/Genesis days when people would refer to video games as "Game Tapes". Whenever someone said that I wanted to choke them to death.
Game tapes? What the hell was that supposed to describe? Cartridges?
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Kind of off topic, but, I really hated back in the SNES/Genesis days when people would refer to video games as "Game Tapes". Whenever someone said that I wanted to choke them to death.
Game tapes? What the hell was that supposed to describe? Cartridges?
A lot of eople still use tapes as a term today sadly.
As far as what it describes goes, the earliest Commodore and other computers that would have smaller programs (i.e., games) would often be on a reeled tape instead of a diskette. It's also used as a general term for any small media that has a movie/game on it due to the prolific VHS format.
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Kind of off topic, but, I really hated back in the SNES/Genesis days when people would refer to video games as "Game Tapes". Whenever someone said that I wanted to choke them to death.
Game tapes? What the hell was that supposed to describe? Cartridges?
But... that friend of mine again... He watched the opening of Tales of Symphonia, the one that is obviously not gameplay, and said, "Symphonia's gameplay is pretty close to anime. But one day, video games will be able to look exactly like this opening movie."
And I just said. "...No."
I don't see what's so misinformed about that. It's just an optimistic prediction of future technology
Kind of off topic, but, I really hated back in the SNES/Genesis days when people would refer to video games as "Game Tapes". Whenever someone said that I wanted to choke them to death.
What's worse, is I still hear the term now, mainly for DS and GBA releases, but I've heard for every console at least once.
I've only ever heard people from Europe refer to carts as "Game Tapes"
Nintendo wanted you to call them "Game Paks" (Yes, with the improper spelling...remember "Pak Watch" in Nintendo Power?) in order to get away from the "cartridge" word that had such a negative stigma after the crash (at least, that's what David Sheff in his book on Nintendo says)....
But everybody I knew called them cartridges or simply carts.
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Nintendo wanted you to call them "Game Paks" (Yes, with the improper spelling...remember "Pak Watch" in Nintendo Power?) in order to get away from the "cartridge" word that had such a negative stigma after the crash (at least, that's what David Sheff in his book on Nintendo says)....
Wanted? Nintendo still uses Game Pak as the term for GBA game cartridges. They use the more logical Game Card for DS games.
The Wii system itself is still called the Control Deck, as always for Nintendo hardware.
Kind of off topic, but, I really hated back in the SNES/Genesis days when people would refer to video games as "Game Tapes". Whenever someone said that I wanted to choke them to death.
Game tapes? What the hell was that supposed to describe? Cartridges?
A lot of eople still use tapes as a term today sadly.
As far as what it describes goes, the earliest Commodore and other computers that would have smaller programs (i.e., games) would often be on a reeled tape instead of a diskette. It's also used as a general term for any small media that has a movie/game on it due to the prolific VHS format.
I do want to choke people to death for using the term though for anything that blatantly is not an encased reel of tape.
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"You know how Batman hangs people over the edge of buildings and gets them to spill information. That's Neo Rasa's way of it, but instead of information, he just likes to see people suffer." ~Senor Fish
I find it weird that even though Nintendo has always called them game paks I always have called them cartridges as did everyone I knew when I was a kid.
I find it weird that even though Nintendo has always called them game paks I always have called them cartridges as did everyone I knew when I was a kid.
Hmmmm
After I read "Game Over: The History of Nintendo, I made a concerted effort to call them "Paks."
I find it weird that even though Nintendo has always called them game paks I always have called them cartridges as did everyone I knew when I was a kid.
Hmmmm
After I read "Game Over: The History of Nintendo, I made a concerted effort to call them "Paks."
Seriously, if you haven't read David Sheff's book "Game Over" and are at ALL interested in the history of Nintendo (especially the NES-early SNES era), you MUST get this book and read it NOW....
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But... that friend of mine again... He watched the opening of Tales of Symphonia, the one that is obviously not gameplay, and said, "Symphonia's gameplay is pretty close to anime. But one day, video games will be able to look exactly like this opening movie."
And I just said. "...No."
I don't see what's so misinformed about that. It's just an optimistic prediction of future technology
The opening movie probably didn't have much light bloom, so future games will clearly never look like it.
Kind of off topic, but, I really hated back in the SNES/Genesis days when people would refer to video games as "Game Tapes". Whenever someone said that I wanted to choke them to death.
Game tapes? What the hell was that supposed to describe? Cartridges?
Yes. And I still hear that term... *shiver*
Probably belongs in the Employee Lounge, but whatever.
I had one guy come up to me in TRU and ask me for "PS2 joysticks." I must have been failing in customerese, because when I showed him the PS2 arcade joysticks we carry, he started yelling at me because I had no idea what he was talking about. He then went to the PS2 controllers and picked one up and called me a moron for not realizing what he meant.
Sorry, sir, I can't understand what you mean if there's a designated item described by the word you chose to use, and I showed you said designated item.
Next time I should probably ask for them to specify; if there's anything this job has taught me, it's that people in general are dumb fucks. Customers and employees alike. And when they get together, the resulting conversation is bathed in miscommunication.
Kind of off topic, but, I really hated back in the SNES/Genesis days when people would refer to video games as "Game Tapes". Whenever someone said that I wanted to choke them to death.
Game tapes? What the hell was that supposed to describe? Cartridges?
Yes. And I still hear that term... *shiver*
Probably belongs in the Employee Lounge, but whatever.
I had one guy come up to me in TRU and ask me for "PS2 joysticks." I must have been failing in customerese, because when I showed him the PS2 arcade joysticks we carry, he started yelling at me because I had no idea what he was talking about.
Personally I would say you are failing, people who wanted an arcade stick would probably have said arcade in front of it. Joystick is a fairly broad term for a game control device. Generally it's easier to request clarification if it's a general term like that and ask what style they're looking for, but that's probably a level of customer service not required at TRU anyways with their level of pay.
I feel old for not getting all worked up about the game tape thing, cause well I used to buy games on cassettes so it wasn't that far of a leap. Not to mention the cartridges look like they could have held tape if someone didn't look at the bottom (8 tracks anyone?).
It's not so much his ignorance as it is the way he yelled at you that bothers me. Even if you'd been wrong, that alone wouldn't give a customer to right to insult an employee.
But... that friend of mine again... He watched the opening of Tales of Symphonia, the one that is obviously not gameplay, and said, "Symphonia's gameplay is pretty close to anime. But one day, video games will be able to look exactly like this opening movie."
And I just said. "...No."
I don't see what's so misinformed about that. It's just an optimistic prediction of future technology
I mean that if a game looks exactly like a movie, it's just not playable. The camera is panning at dramatic angles, characters are passing from foreground to background, from perspective to perspective. It'd be a nightmare to program for and to render or draw or whatever technique makes this remotely possible. The only way I can imagine this is in an extremely linear game, which would basically be a movie that you press a button for once in a while.
Kind of off topic, but, I really hated back in the SNES/Genesis days when people would refer to video games as "Game Tapes". Whenever someone said that I wanted to choke them to death.
Game tapes? What the hell was that supposed to describe? Cartridges?
Yes. And I still hear that term... *shiver*
Probably belongs in the Employee Lounge, but whatever.
I had one guy come up to me in TRU and ask me for "PS2 joysticks." I must have been failing in customerese, because when I showed him the PS2 arcade joysticks we carry, he started yelling at me because I had no idea what he was talking about. He then went to the PS2 controllers and picked one up and called me a moron for not realizing what he meant.
Sorry, sir, I can't understand what you mean if there's a designated item described by the word you chose to use, and I showed you said designated item.
Next time I should probably ask for them to specify; if there's anything this job has taught me, it's that people in general are dumb fucks. Customers and employees alike. And when they get together, the resulting conversation is bathed in miscommunication.
Yeah, if I've learned one thing in life, it's that people in general are fucking stupid, and there are a small percentage who are halfway intelligent. Anyone who ever works/worked in the retail industry can probably attest to that.
Actually, the "FMV" in FF7 is rendered in real time by the PlayStation. The problem was, that the PS controller was so advanced that it taxed the system greatly to process the input. As a result, the true power of the PlayStation could only be displayed during non-interactive parts of the game.
Wow....
You, my friend, are so full of shit!
I hope to God you are citing an example of misinformation, because polling the controller requires 1 BIOS syscall, which in turn executes about 15 lines of machine code.
The data from the controller is strobed from the system clock, so it would take about 10-12 clock cycles to get the data from the pad. Most RISC opcodes (one line of machine code) takes 1-5 clock cycles to complete. We're talking tiny fractions of a second.
Being conservitive, I'm guessing that such an operation will take about a hundredith of a second to complete.
Actually, the "FMV" in FF7 is rendered in real time by the PlayStation. The problem was, that the PS controller was so advanced that it taxed the system greatly to process the input. As a result, the true power of the PlayStation could only be displayed during non-interactive parts of the game.
Wow....
You, my friend, are so full of shit!
I hope to God you are citing an example of misinformation, because polling the controller requires 1 BIOS syscall, which in turn executes about 15 lines of machine code.
The data from the controller is strobed from the system clock, so it would take about 10-12 clock cycles to get the data from the pad. Most RISC opcodes (one line of machine code) takes 1-5 clock cycles to complete. We're talking tiny fractions of a second.
Being conservitive, I'm guessing that such an operation will take about a hundredith of a second to complete.
Actually, the "FMV" in FF7 is rendered in real time by the PlayStation. The problem was, that the PS controller was so advanced that it taxed the system greatly to process the input. As a result, the true power of the PlayStation could only be displayed during non-interactive parts of the game.
Wow....
You, my friend, are so full of shit!
I hope to God you are citing an example of misinformation, because polling the controller requires 1 BIOS syscall, which in turn executes about 15 lines of machine code.
The data from the controller is strobed from the system clock, so it would take about 10-12 clock cycles to get the data from the pad. Most RISC opcodes (one line of machine code) takes 1-5 clock cycles to complete. We're talking tiny fractions of a second.
Being conservitive, I'm guessing that such an operation will take about a hundredith of a second to complete.
What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.
I was at my local GameStation about a week or so before the DS launched in the UK. Some big, bald mental patient walks in and buys a game, and while they're ringing it up this little conversation happens:
Idiot: Okay. So, Nintendo have the DS. PlayStation have the PSP. Microsoft are comin' out wiv this fing called the Gizmondo. Store Guy: Er... Idiot: Wot I wanna know is, d'you know when you'll be gettin' 'em in? 'Cos I hear it's gonna be more powerful than the PS3.
At this point my head is about to explode. Luckily the guys at my local GameStation are frank and to the point, and don't give a shit about whether or not they're offending customers.
Store Guy: Actually, you're wrong. The Gizmondo isn't anything to do with Microsoft. Where did you hear that? Idiot: This guy I know said... Store Guy: Yeah, stop there. "This guy" apparently doesn't know his arse from his elbow so the next time he imparts his special brand of Industry Know-How, you're probably doign him a favour by beating him over the head with a lump of wood. Idiot: Get your fuckin' Manager, mate.
Store Guy taps his name badge, which very prominently indicates that, yes, he is the Manager. Idiot grabs his purchase and receipt, then hightails it out there muttering expletives. I'm next in line.
Me: What was he on? Everyone knows the Gizmondo is Sega's next handheld brought in to claim back their once mighty Empire. :roll:
But... that friend of mine again... He watched the opening of Tales of Symphonia, the one that is obviously not gameplay, and said, "Symphonia's gameplay is pretty close to anime. But one day, video games will be able to look exactly like this opening movie."
And I just said. "...No."
I don't see what's so misinformed about that. It's just an optimistic prediction of future technology
I mean that if a game looks exactly like a movie, it's just not playable. The camera is panning at dramatic angles, characters are passing from foreground to background, from perspective to perspective. It'd be a nightmare to program for and to render or draw or whatever technique makes this remotely possible. The only way I can imagine this is in an extremely linear game, which would basically be a movie that you press a button for once in a while.
SotC usually (ok, maybe just ocassionally) picks excellent camera angles that really make the game feel cinematic. I think it has more to do with programming a camera that knows how to pick a cinematic shot rather than a camera that's just "competant" like we usually get.
Kind of off topic, but, I really hated back in the SNES/Genesis days when people would refer to video games as "Game Tapes". Whenever someone said that I wanted to choke them to death.
Game tapes? What the hell was that supposed to describe? Cartridges?
Yes. And I still hear that term... *shiver*
I've never heard anyone say it. If I do I might cry a little.
I'm not just talking about cinematics. Many games have beautiful and fitting cinematics which are in-game and not FMV, from Twilight Princess to Chrono Trigger and probably further back. But let's put it this way. Flip on your TV right now to some random show. Now imagine playing that as a game. Clearly there will have to be some compromise and adaptation in order to make it playable, and the end result will not be able to look exactly like what you're seeing on the screen. Maybe the graphics in games might one day look like it's taken directly off an anime or live film. But when TV and games are in motion, the difference between them is the highest visual appeal versus the most intuitive or most enjoyable method of control.
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Back in the day it was "bits" ...but now we don't really have that anymore so average dumbfuck doesn't have anything to go off of.
That reminds me... back in the PSX vs. N64 days, I can't recall how many times I heard someone say the PSX had WAY WAY WAY better graphics than the N64... and the whole time they were mindlessly referring to FMV movies, thinking that they were "graphics."
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I mean, where does that leave games like Guitar hero? DDR? The graphics are nothing to write home about.
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It is a game played on a television or other screen, like a video. Graphics don't matter.
What's worse, is I still hear the term now, mainly for DS and GBA releases, but I've heard for every console at least once.
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I never ran into anybody grossly misinformed about gaming.
seemed like eveyone on my block beleived that. I blame final fantasy.
I went in today to move HL2:Orange (as it's now known) and Wario Ware to RE4. I never intended to buy those there for full price anyway (I just wanted to satisfy them that I wasn't a PS3 and Wii eBay scalper)... RE4 may never show at other retailers and I'd like to raise my store's rank on the PC sales radar. It was painless. Now I've got $15 toward the $30 PC game after moving the preorder amounts to it. But that's not all. THey happily checked the price of a bunch of PC games for me (identifying several super-cheapies). I ended up picking up some $5 PC games like Tatio arcade collection and a Half-Life 2 guide marked $5 for $3.99. Then I noticed a thick Quake 4 box behind the counter that wasn't either of the editions I knew of. When he checked it, it was a preorder bonus T-shirt in a box. He peeled the price off and just gave it to me.
All in all, I loved the visit and I'll hunt there often even if it means fending off the preorder push. To me, preordering just means getting roped into paying full price!
Actually, the "FMV" in FF7 is rendered in real time by the PlayStation. The problem was, that the PS controller was so advanced that it taxed the system greatly to process the input. As a result, the true power of the PlayStation could only be displayed during non-interactive parts of the game.
I have a friend and we were playing Tales of Symphonia together. I was showing him the costumes and cutscenes (not the FMV cutscenes), and he observed that Namco had put a lot of effort into remaking every cutscene with only the costumes being different. That's when I realized he thought that background, foreground, everything on the TV screen was all part of the same frame, and everything had to be redrawn or rerendered in order for any animation to occur. I had to explain to him the concept of text layers, background, the character you control, special effects layer, etc.
Anyways, I don't blame him for his ignorance. I used to be like that too. I think, unless you're told otherwise or you're observant enough, you don't really bother to tell the difference between gameplay and FMV.
Back in the PSX days though... I think you had to be mentally retarded to not be able to tell the difference between an FMV sequence and gameplay. I mean honestly.
It only takes one idiot to lead a bunch of sheep.
But... that friend of mine again... He watched the opening of Tales of Symphonia, the one that is obviously not gameplay, and said, "Symphonia's gameplay is pretty close to anime. But one day, video games will be able to look exactly like this opening movie."
And I just said. "...No."
Game tapes? What the hell was that supposed to describe? Cartridges?
A lot of eople still use tapes as a term today sadly.
As far as what it describes goes, the earliest Commodore and other computers that would have smaller programs (i.e., games) would often be on a reeled tape instead of a diskette. It's also used as a general term for any small media that has a movie/game on it due to the prolific VHS format.
Yes. And I still hear that term... *shiver*
I don't see what's so misinformed about that. It's just an optimistic prediction of future technology
I've only ever heard people from Europe refer to carts as "Game Tapes"
Nintendo wanted you to call them "Game Paks" (Yes, with the improper spelling...remember "Pak Watch" in Nintendo Power?) in order to get away from the "cartridge" word that had such a negative stigma after the crash (at least, that's what David Sheff in his book on Nintendo says)....
But everybody I knew called them cartridges or simply carts.
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Wanted? Nintendo still uses Game Pak as the term for GBA game cartridges. They use the more logical Game Card for DS games.
The Wii system itself is still called the Control Deck, as always for Nintendo hardware.
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A lot of eople still use tapes as a term today sadly.
As far as what it describes goes, the earliest Commodore and other computers that would have smaller programs (i.e., games) would often be on a reeled tape instead of a diskette. It's also used as a general term for any small media that has a movie/game on it due to the prolific VHS format.
I do want to choke people to death for using the term though for anything that blatantly is not an encased reel of tape.
Hmmmm
After I read "Game Over: The History of Nintendo, I made a concerted effort to call them "Paks."
Seriously, if you haven't read David Sheff's book "Game Over" and are at ALL interested in the history of Nintendo (especially the NES-early SNES era), you MUST get this book and read it NOW....
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The opening movie probably didn't have much light bloom, so future games will clearly never look like it.
Probably belongs in the Employee Lounge, but whatever.
I had one guy come up to me in TRU and ask me for "PS2 joysticks." I must have been failing in customerese, because when I showed him the PS2 arcade joysticks we carry, he started yelling at me because I had no idea what he was talking about. He then went to the PS2 controllers and picked one up and called me a moron for not realizing what he meant.
Sorry, sir, I can't understand what you mean if there's a designated item described by the word you chose to use, and I showed you said designated item.
Next time I should probably ask for them to specify; if there's anything this job has taught me, it's that people in general are dumb fucks. Customers and employees alike. And when they get together, the resulting conversation is bathed in miscommunication.
Personally I would say you are failing, people who wanted an arcade stick would probably have said arcade in front of it. Joystick is a fairly broad term for a game control device. Generally it's easier to request clarification if it's a general term like that and ask what style they're looking for, but that's probably a level of customer service not required at TRU anyways with their level of pay.
I feel old for not getting all worked up about the game tape thing, cause well I used to buy games on cassettes so it wasn't that far of a leap. Not to mention the cartridges look like they could have held tape if someone didn't look at the bottom (8 tracks anyone?).
I mean that if a game looks exactly like a movie, it's just not playable. The camera is panning at dramatic angles, characters are passing from foreground to background, from perspective to perspective. It'd be a nightmare to program for and to render or draw or whatever technique makes this remotely possible. The only way I can imagine this is in an extremely linear game, which would basically be a movie that you press a button for once in a while.
Wow....
You, my friend, are so full of shit!
I hope to God you are citing an example of misinformation, because polling the controller requires 1 BIOS syscall, which in turn executes about 15 lines of machine code.
The data from the controller is strobed from the system clock, so it would take about 10-12 clock cycles to get the data from the pad. Most RISC opcodes (one line of machine code) takes 1-5 clock cycles to complete. We're talking tiny fractions of a second.
Being conservitive, I'm guessing that such an operation will take about a hundredith of a second to complete.
Try again.
Not to harp on you but Final Fantasy 7 is something I know a little bit about.
....He...he was joking......
GAH!
What we have here is misinformation about misinformation.
And oh god civil war is stuck in my head now.
Idiot: Okay. So, Nintendo have the DS. PlayStation have the PSP. Microsoft are comin' out wiv this fing called the Gizmondo.
Store Guy: Er...
Idiot: Wot I wanna know is, d'you know when you'll be gettin' 'em in? 'Cos I hear it's gonna be more powerful than the PS3.
At this point my head is about to explode. Luckily the guys at my local GameStation are frank and to the point, and don't give a shit about whether or not they're offending customers.
Store Guy: Actually, you're wrong. The Gizmondo isn't anything to do with Microsoft. Where did you hear that?
Idiot: This guy I know said...
Store Guy: Yeah, stop there. "This guy" apparently doesn't know his arse from his elbow so the next time he imparts his special brand of Industry Know-How, you're probably doign him a favour by beating him over the head with a lump of wood.
Idiot: Get your fuckin' Manager, mate.
Store Guy taps his name badge, which very prominently indicates that, yes, he is the Manager. Idiot grabs his purchase and receipt, then hightails it out there muttering expletives. I'm next in line.
Me: What was he on? Everyone knows the Gizmondo is Sega's next handheld brought in to claim back their once mighty Empire. :roll:
And we laugh. Fade out, end credits.
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