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What's Our Generation's Evilness?

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  • JohannenJohannen Registered User
    edited June 2010
    Cliff wrote: »
    widowson wrote: »
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Some religious beliefs just shouldn't be legislated one way or another.

    ESPECIALLY the sex-related ones. Maybe Catholics think abstinence, rather than teaching contraception, is a viable way to combat teen pregnancy. Guess what, its not, it sucks, is ineffective (this is objectively fact), they're dumb, and it should not be taught to school children. Let parents teach silly flawed methods themselves.


    Um....if you don't have sex you...can't...get...pregnant...

    My secular school simply stated that abstinance is the only 100% effective method of birth control. That's pretty damn effective and it worked for me; I didn't father a child until I wanted to.

    I get that it's fashionable to hate Catholics (and I don't agree with their views on sex) but the "fuck at all costs" hedonistic mentality is pretty silly and flawed as well. A 5-second orgasim is not the be-all, end-all of human existance and, if done recklessly, can hurt you and others. That's reason, not religion.

    As a wise woman once said "A fully adult human being knows that their sexual behavior can never be considered casual, disconnected from deeper emotion or from consequence, unless one is a true sociopath."

    You may have successfully abstained during your teenage years... but was that because you chose to, I wonder? Very few hetero teen males would be able to turn down a straight up offer to engage in coitus with an attractive female. To the point where I'd call most liars that claimed they had done so. Our biological imperative is that strong--it's the meaning of life, after all.

    If there is a god, and he didn't want us to get off on a regular basis, he designed us very poorly.

    If Jesus kills a kitten every time we masturbate, what does he do when we have a wet dream?

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    Cognisseur wrote: »
    I really can't figure out what I'll be hated for in 50 years, and it kind of bugs me. What do you guys suggest?

    r-OIL-SPILL-huge.jpg

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  • agoajagoaj Now is the time of my revengeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    _J_ wrote: »
    Cognisseur wrote: »
    I really can't figure out what I'll be hated for in 50 years, and it kind of bugs me. What do you guys suggest?

    r-OIL-SPILL-huge.jpg

    Genetic brownie monsters.
    So delicious
    so deadly.

    agoaj on
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  • widowsonwidowson Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Cognisseur wrote: »
    widowson wrote: »
    As a wise woman once said "A fully adult human being knows that their sexual behavior can never be considered casual, disconnected from deeper emotion or from consequence, unless one is a true sociopath."

    I guess that wise woman never stepped foot on a college campus.


    And I suppose you never stepped foot in a frat house. :P

    Sociopath is a pretty accurate term for that mentality.

    And I still maintain that college retards development in some ways; it's nothing like "real life" and is truly extended adolescence for many who treat it as grades 13, 14, 15, and 16; goofing off while living off of their parent's dime or borrowed money which would make them, yes, not fully adults.

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  • widowsonwidowson Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    widowson wrote: »
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    Some religious beliefs just shouldn't be legislated one way or another.

    ESPECIALLY the sex-related ones. Maybe Catholics think abstinence, rather than teaching contraception, is a viable way to combat teen pregnancy. Guess what, its not, it sucks, is ineffective (this is objectively fact), they're dumb, and it should not be taught to school children. Let parents teach silly flawed methods themselves.


    Um....if you don't have sex you...can't...get...pregnant...

    My secular school simply stated that abstinance is the only 100% effective method of birth control. That's pretty damn effective and it worked for me; I didn't father a child until I wanted to.

    I get that it's fashionable to hate Catholics (and I don't agree with their views on sex) but the "fuck at all costs" hedonistic mentality is pretty silly and flawed as well. A 5-second orgasim is not the be-all, end-all of human existance and, if done recklessly, can hurt you and others. That's reason, not religion.

    As a wise woman once said "A fully adult human being knows that their sexual behavior can never be considered casual, disconnected from deeper emotion or from consequence, unless one is a true sociopath."

    You may have successfully abstained during your teenage years... but was that because you chose to, I wonder? Very few hetero teen males would be able to turn down a straight up offer to engage in coitus with an attractive female. To the point where I'd call most liars that claimed they had done so. Our biological imperative is that strong--it's the meaning of life, after all.


    It doesn't have to be a choice between Hughe Hefner and Saint Augustine. I'm saying that sex is evil, but it's not god either. But on that note, a wise man...


    Daibutsu-Buddha.jpg


    ...yeah him. Said something like:

    Life is pain.

    Paid is caused by desire.

    To extinguish desire to is extinguish pain.


    So, saying a life of reckless and irresponsible sexual behavior where you allow hormonal, animalistic, and inhuman desire to govern your life can lead to pain and unhappiness, in one's self and others, is not an unreasonable thing to believe.

    Edit: Yes, I did turn down offers. It was hard, but you need to give human beings more credit. We're not animals, IMHO.

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  • TalleyrandTalleyrand Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    you allow hormonal, animalistic, and inhuman desire

    Wut?

    And while I love me some Buddhism I wouldn't use a religious figure to try to convince people about not having sex.

    And define reckless and irresponsible.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Talleyrand wrote: »
    And define reckless and irresponsible.

    Surrendering to lust? No concern for consequences? No thought for using protection? Feelings not considered? Line of decency has been crossed and you find yourself in a furry costume about to start yiffing on your lover who is dressed up like Minnie Mouse?

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  • NartwakNartwak Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I can't believe I just saw somebody unironically use the phrase 'surrender to lust'.
    Oh, he's a repressed furry. Well explanations come quick around here.

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    If I found out tomorrow that you died, I'd be a happier person.
    Nartwak is the kind of person, that, if I was given the chance, no consequences, I would do horrible thing's to.

    I'm not even going to bother trying to deny that
  • Pi-r8Pi-r8 Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    widowson wrote: »

    ...yeah him. Said something like:

    Life is pain.

    Paid is caused by desire.

    To extinguish desire to is extinguish pain.
    What the hell, I don't agree with any of those things.
    In fact, if all of those things is true, doesn't it also follow logically that to extinguish desire is to extinguish life?

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar Audio Game Developer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Fortunately being a Buddhist does not prevent one from being passionate in the bedroom.

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Pi-r8 wrote: »
    widowson wrote: »

    ...yeah him. Said something like:

    Life is pain.

    Paid is caused by desire.

    To extinguish desire to is extinguish pain.
    What the hell, I don't agree with any of those things.
    In fact, if all of those things is true, doesn't it also follow logically that to extinguish desire is to extinguish life?

    life is caused by desire


    hey, neat

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  • ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Eastern coastal temptressRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Pi-r8 wrote: »
    widowson wrote: »

    ...yeah him. Said something like:

    Life is pain.

    Paid is caused by desire.

    To extinguish desire to is extinguish pain.
    What the hell, I don't agree with any of those things.
    In fact, if all of those things is true, doesn't it also follow logically that to extinguish desire is to extinguish life?

    l=p
    Ed->Ep

    Ed->El

    Yes, extinguishing desire is to extinguish life.

    Anyway, reckless and irresponsible behaviors will cause pain whether or not the behaviors are sexual. Because that's kind of what reckless and irresponsible behaviors do.

    (And we're totally animals. My inner biologist cringes every time someone tries to separate us.)

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Isn't the whole point of comprehensive Sex-Ed to deter reckless and irresponsible behaviour when the inevitable bumping of uglies occurs?

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Another contender for our generation's evilness:

    The fascination and REWARDING of things so bad that they're "good."

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  • JohannenJohannen Registered User
    edited June 2010
    moniker wrote: »
    Isn't the whole point of comprehensive Sex-Ed to deter reckless and irresponsible behaviour when the inevitable bumping of uglies occurs?

    Yeah I'm pretty sure sex education isn't meant to be about how you shouldn't have sex and that sex is evil, that class should just be called "sexual abstinence and how to never have fun...ed".

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  • nescientistnescientist Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Johannen wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Isn't the whole point of comprehensive Sex-Ed to deter reckless and irresponsible behaviour when the inevitable bumping of uglies occurs?

    Yeah I'm pretty sure sex education isn't meant to be about how you shouldn't have sex and that sex is evil, that class should just be called "sexual abstinence and how to never have fun...ed".

    I think the curricula of extant US public school sex ed are actually very much "sex is evil," not really intentionally so much as because they necessarily spend some time discussing venereal disease, and pregnancy is fucking terrifying even if you aren't a grade-schooler. Our whole culture is so unbelievably twisted when it comes to sex though that I'm just surprised we've managed to get it together well enough to sometimes mention the existence of condoms to our citizens before they reach majority.

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  • JohannenJohannen Registered User
    edited June 2010
    Johannen wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Isn't the whole point of comprehensive Sex-Ed to deter reckless and irresponsible behaviour when the inevitable bumping of uglies occurs?

    Yeah I'm pretty sure sex education isn't meant to be about how you shouldn't have sex and that sex is evil, that class should just be called "sexual abstinence and how to never have fun...ed".

    I think the curricula of extant US public school sex ed are actually very much "sex is evil," not really intentionally so much as because they necessarily spend some time discussing venereal disease, and pregnancy is fucking terrifying even if you aren't a grade-schooler. Our whole culture is so unbelievably twisted when it comes to sex though that I'm just surprised we've managed to get it together well enough to sometimes mention the existence of condoms to our citizens before they reach majority.

    We should just be as biological and clinical as possible with sex ed, just say what it is and what it can lead to, and the reason we all do it.....

    Because we're drunk and outside of crying in the shower we need something to fill the empty void inside.

    Johannen on
  • Pi-r8Pi-r8 Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Johannen wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Isn't the whole point of comprehensive Sex-Ed to deter reckless and irresponsible behaviour when the inevitable bumping of uglies occurs?

    Yeah I'm pretty sure sex education isn't meant to be about how you shouldn't have sex and that sex is evil, that class should just be called "sexual abstinence and how to never have fun...ed".

    I think the curricula of extant US public school sex ed are actually very much "sex is evil," not really intentionally so much as because they necessarily spend some time discussing venereal disease, and pregnancy is fucking terrifying even if you aren't a grade-schooler. Our whole culture is so unbelievably twisted when it comes to sex though that I'm just surprised we've managed to get it together well enough to sometimes mention the existence of condoms to our citizens before they reach majority.

    i just hate the way they spend, like, 95% of the curriculum talking about the horrors of vd and teenage pregnancy, and maybe 5% actually teaching you how to have sex. Maybe 1 brief demonstration of how to use a condom, if you're lucky and have a good class, and then a little brochure on other methods of birth control. Nothing on at all different positions, or foreplay, or anything fun. Oh well, porn to the rescue i guess.

    Pi-r8 on
  • SpeakerSpeaker Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    widowson wrote: »
    Cognisseur wrote: »
    widowson wrote: »
    As a wise woman once said "A fully adult human being knows that their sexual behavior can never be considered casual, disconnected from deeper emotion or from consequence, unless one is a true sociopath."

    I guess that wise woman never stepped foot on a college campus.


    And I suppose you never stepped foot in a frat house. :P

    Sociopath is a pretty accurate term for that mentality.

    And I still maintain that college retards development in some ways; it's nothing like "real life" and is truly extended adolescence for many who treat it as grades 13, 14, 15, and 16; goofing off while living off of their parent's dime or borrowed money which would make them, yes, not fully adults.

    I don't know if I agree entirely with everything you derrive from that premise, but I have to say I agree with the premise entirely.

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    Nor days of gloom, nor darkness -
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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Pi-r8 wrote: »
    Johannen wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Isn't the whole point of comprehensive Sex-Ed to deter reckless and irresponsible behaviour when the inevitable bumping of uglies occurs?

    Yeah I'm pretty sure sex education isn't meant to be about how you shouldn't have sex and that sex is evil, that class should just be called "sexual abstinence and how to never have fun...ed".

    I think the curricula of extant US public school sex ed are actually very much "sex is evil," not really intentionally so much as because they necessarily spend some time discussing venereal disease, and pregnancy is fucking terrifying even if you aren't a grade-schooler. Our whole culture is so unbelievably twisted when it comes to sex though that I'm just surprised we've managed to get it together well enough to sometimes mention the existence of condoms to our citizens before they reach majority.

    i just hate the way they spend, like, 95% of the curriculum talking about the horrors of vd and teenage pregnancy, and maybe 5% actually teaching you how to have sex. Maybe 1 brief demonstration of how to use a condom, if you're lucky and have a good class, and then a little brochure on other methods of birth control. Nothing on at all different positions, or foreplay, or anything fun. Oh well, porn to the rescue i guess.

    What's wrong with that? People can and will easily figure out that shit on their own or look it up.

    When you've got the forced to be attentive audience, it's time to hit the important shit they don't wanna think about: the consequences of sex that aren't "amazing orgasms"

    shryke on
  • Pi-r8Pi-r8 Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    shryke wrote: »
    Pi-r8 wrote: »
    Johannen wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Isn't the whole point of comprehensive Sex-Ed to deter reckless and irresponsible behaviour when the inevitable bumping of uglies occurs?

    Yeah I'm pretty sure sex education isn't meant to be about how you shouldn't have sex and that sex is evil, that class should just be called "sexual abstinence and how to never have fun...ed".

    I think the curricula of extant US public school sex ed are actually very much "sex is evil," not really intentionally so much as because they necessarily spend some time discussing venereal disease, and pregnancy is fucking terrifying even if you aren't a grade-schooler. Our whole culture is so unbelievably twisted when it comes to sex though that I'm just surprised we've managed to get it together well enough to sometimes mention the existence of condoms to our citizens before they reach majority.

    i just hate the way they spend, like, 95% of the curriculum talking about the horrors of vd and teenage pregnancy, and maybe 5% actually teaching you how to have sex. Maybe 1 brief demonstration of how to use a condom, if you're lucky and have a good class, and then a little brochure on other methods of birth control. Nothing on at all different positions, or foreplay, or anything fun. Oh well, porn to the rescue i guess.

    What's wrong with that? People can and will easily figure out that shit on their own or look it up.

    When you've got the forced to be attentive audience, it's time to hit the important shit they don't wanna think about: the consequences of sex that aren't "amazing orgasms"
    I don't think teenagers should be forced to endure terrible sex.

    I want them to be happy.

    I'm not saying, don't teach about STDs, but you CAN teach other stuff too, instead of just pretending it doesn't exist.

    Pi-r8 on
  • SpeakerSpeaker Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Teenagers having bad sex doesn't really rise to the top of the list of problems we have right now.

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    Walkers with the sun and morning, we are not afraid of night,
    Nor days of gloom, nor darkness -
    Being walkers with the sun and morning.
  • IncenjucarIncenjucar Audio Game Developer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Speaker wrote: »
    Teenagers having bad sex doesn't really rise to the top of the list of problems we have right now.

    I dunno, maybe bad sex is why teenagers are such dicks.

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  • SpeakerSpeaker Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Speaker wrote: »
    Teenagers having bad sex doesn't really rise to the top of the list of problems we have right now.

    I dunno, maybe bad sex is why teenagers are such dicks.

    I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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    Walkers with the sun and morning, we are not afraid of night,
    Nor days of gloom, nor darkness -
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  • JohannenJohannen Registered User
    edited June 2010
    I was thinking more down the lines of that they should be taught how sex works, such as the little things like teaching guys about
    The Hymen, and the biological set up of a vagina as well as a penis
    , more about how to have sex safely in the use of different contraceptives and what they each do and how they do it (adding in how easy it is to buy protection). They should also teach males more about females periods, and both men and women more about things like premature ejaculation, being unable to maintain an erection, being unable to form lubrication as a female, and about how women need mental stimulation more than men do in a lot of cases, and why men find it easier to be quickly aroused.

    These would help with social problems and stigmas as well as teaching teenagers why and how to do things right and when to do them right. We should also be teaching our children how often and how they should check their genitalia, and how to treat the parts of the opposite sex. Of course sexual fetishes should be discussed too. I just think that abstinence should never be the way of teaching about sex, and that a more rounded social, biological and physical view of sex should be taught.

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  • JohannenJohannen Registered User
    edited June 2010
    Also, I have no idea why I spoilered that bit but it will stay that way.

    And this thread is going off topic.

    Johannen on
  • OrganichuOrganichu jacobkosh Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    what is this hymen

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Apparently our generation's evilness is that we believe that we won't be the next to last generation of humans. If the situation with the Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill isn't evidence enough, then humanity will be over and done with by 2100.

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Apparently our generation's evilness is that na lot of us believe that we won't be the next to last generation of humans. If the situation with the Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill isn't evidence enough, then humanity will be over and done with by 2100.

    um... that still leaves 3 to 4 generations. Plenty of time to suck up enough oil from the Gulf of Mexico to colonize Mars.

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  • TalleyrandTalleyrand Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    So I think this thread has been derailed enough that I might as well throw this up here since I'm sure you guys would appreciate it.

    http://midwestteensexshow.com/

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    In the future, child beauty pageants will be banned.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Couscous wrote: »
    In the future, child beauty pageants will be banned.

    This just in: Old man couscous hates children, abhors beauty

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    In the future, child beauty pageants will be banned.

    This just in: Old man couscous hates children, abhors beauty

    I'll just name it the Child Sex Slave Prohibition Bill. No one will vote against it.

    Couscous on
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