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What's Our Generation's Evilness?

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  • CervetusCervetus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I'm pretty sure it will be mental health. We'll be sitting in our wheelchairs railing against our lazy good-for-nothing grandchild while their generation shakes their heads at our intolerant old selves who can't or won't grasp the nuances of signaling deficiencies and the like.
    Cognisseur wrote: »
    So I was looking through a collection of sexist vintage ads, and I thought to myself, "isn't it weird that so many people went along with this and didn't realize how wrong they'd be 50 years later?"

    Honestly, with a little tweaking I could see some of those ads coming out right now.

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Cognisseur wrote: »

    I really can't figure out what I'll be hated for in 50 years, and it kind of bugs me. What do you guys suggest?

    Oil.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    The Gulf thread posting the "never talking to police video" made me think of this one: that we think tasers are funny.

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  • CervetusCervetus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I highly doubt that our society will be less resource-hungry in the foreseeable future or vitriolically hate oil. After all, we may mock Victorian England for their ridiculous coal usage, but we still use coal power plants to this day. If our grandchildren aren't using oil it's because there will be a technological revolution, not because of some societal refusal of oil.

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  • AdrienAdrien Registered User
    edited May 2010
    Pi-r8 wrote: »
    hahaha is that woman supposed to be hot? she looks freaky.

    I'm much more creeped out by that mirror.

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  • DrakeDrake Edgelord Trash Below the ecliptic plane.Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    The Gulf thread posting the "never talking to police video" made me think of this one: that we think tasers are funny.

    Yeah, I've always wondered if people would laugh it were bullwhips instead.

    I hope through communication technology we grow to know each other enough to loathe the thought of committing acts of mass violence.

    edit: So yeah, war/terrorism will hopefully be something that we get less of.

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  • kdrudykdrudy Registered User
    edited May 2010
    I'm very amused by some of the answers here, some of you think things are going to change an awful lot.

    Honestly I don't think we can even begin to guess what we'll look bad for in the future. For all we know future generations will be even more full of themselves and will deride us for thinking of others.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Torture generally, is my hope, actually now that I think about it. I'd include tasers in that.

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  • DarkCrawlerDarkCrawler Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    What generation are we talking about? I'm around 20 years old, it seems that I have grown with lot of the things mentioned here but haven't really participated in them. I'm pro-gay rights, for example, and defenitely pro-religious equality. It seems everyone I meet of my own age are about the same in those things. It seems that most things mentioned here are the fault of boomers. Generation X has been participating in politics only relatively recently.

    I don't really know what offensive ideologies my generation could propagate. I like whoever said that apathy will be our generation's evil. We may be forward on many issues, but some of that is simply ambivalence instead of burning passion for freedom. "Who cares if he's gay?" "So he's an atheist, so what...I go to church only on Christmas, it's not like religion means anything for me." "It's not a baby, it's a clump of cells."

    It's seems to me that many 20-somethings don't simply give a flying fuck about things that meant so much for our parents. So it's good in that we vote for say, pro gay-rights...but we might do it just because we don't see any reason not to.

    So I'm guessing that instead of shaking their head to how racist we are or something, our grandchildren will be frustrated about how little we care about anything?

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  • ElitistbElitistb Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Man, fuck disc golf.
    Seriously, what the fuck is your problem?

    I actually play disc golf occasionally.

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  • Ethan SmithEthan Smith Origin name: Beart4to Arlington, VARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    When I look at thing like the generational shift in, say, Weimar Germany, or in the officer corps in Latin America during the 30's, something really fucking weird came up, to me.

    The younger generation was way less tolerant, and way more likely to blame, say, Jews or the international whatever on their nation's problems. This led to a huge shift towards both a more violent culture for a long period of time, and a step backward in social tolerance that we still really haven't gotten past even with how liberal (defining liberal as "live and let live") our generation is--drugs which we were totally ok with during the 10's are still illegal now. Yes, I understand that we look back on people and say "Oh man we were ok with Heroin? How stupid we were", but at the same time, if you look at the characterization of people who do drugs in, for instance, Lovecraft, you can see a direct line into the illegalization of pot and other stuff.

    Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that people are going to look at 2 Girls 1 Cup and say we were a depraved fucking generation what the fuck was wrong with us. And we're going to be awfully depressed when our kids join Tea Party 2 electric boogaloo

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2010
    I'm putting my money on body modification stuff. Genetic engineering, cyborgy stuff, etc. We have to run out of social issues to be bigoted about at some point, but fear of the new will always be with us.

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  • electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I want to get one of those emergency GPS beacons implanted in me.

    The fear of governments tracking my every move in a dystopian future is lower then my fear of freezing to death in the australian bush.

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  • SkyGheNeSkyGheNe Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    In the United States at least, I hope they'll come to their senses and realize how harmful it is to market to children as young as 5 years old.

    They opened the floodgates in the early 90s and we're bringing up an entire generation (to an extent, including ourselves) that values individualism and commercialism to such an extreme that most children, high school kids, and people in general would sooner keep their possessions (ps3 4 yo lyfe) and let someone die than sacrifice for a greater whole.

    That's in part due to the individualism/commercialism combination.

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  • YannYann Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    We are the generation that bought more shoes, and we will get what we deserve.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    The Cat wrote: »
    I'm putting my money on body modification stuff. Genetic engineering, cyborgy stuff, etc. We have to run out of social issues to be bigoted about at some point, but fear of the new will always be with us.

    I don't know, that seems like it'd last right up until 'oh p.p.s. we can pull out all your old failing organs and put in something new'.

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Khavall wrote: »
    I'm going to second the gay rights issue. Shit, it's crazy even now that human equality is being so strongly opposed, let alone what we're going to think of this half a century from now.

    Yeah I mean.. .that "Gathering Storm" ad?


    That sickens me already. Now imagine we're 50 years in the future, Gays have equal rights to straights, they can marry, they can serve in the military, there's no society difference.

    Now look at that ad again.

    that's p much only in the US when you compare western states though

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    It will probably be the ignoring of global warming, and the really kind of almost comical destruction of the environment in many places

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    nuka wrote: »
    Religious equality.

    Regardless how excited you or I may be about the idea of an Atheist president, well I've told less funny jokes before.

    Theism in general is p annoying sometimes
    All "Accept my world view! It's discrimination not to! What, you don't believe in a higher power? Ha ha how high do you even HAVE to be?"

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  • JohannenJohannen Registered User
    edited May 2010
    Maybe our overuse of fossil fuels? We'll probably be going another route, of synthetic fuels or another energy source maybe, and they'll all be sat around talking about how we were a bunch of polluting, idiotic and arrogant peoples who abuse whatever "primitive" sources we have.

    Wars, and how we act towards other countries, the way we use country borders and we're so exclusionary. Also the way we try to solve issues by governments acting how they like (as if they're elitist old men sat in a boys club), and having ground wars with other nations. They'll probably look back and find it stupid that we didn't just solve these issues with the means they have then got themselves... that's a big maybe this one.

    The homosexual rights thing is probably another big one too, although homosexuality has been going on since the beginning of homosapiens and if anything we have become less liberal about it in the grand scale.

    I think racism is probably a big one too, we're still hung up on issues of racism and I'm hoping and guessing it will be a complete non-issue in the future. They'll probably think we were incredibly dumb for calling it "racism" in the first place anyway, seeing as biologically homosapiens is the race, and the miniscule genetic difference between people of different skin colour is ridiculous to classify as a race. Either that or they will find new biological evidence as to our difference and will separate us further.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck the search for the means to put an end to things an end to speech is what enables the discourse to continue ~ * ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) excelsior * ~Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I don't know, that seems like it'd last right up until 'oh p.p.s. we can pull out all your old failing organs and put in something new'.

    Maybe the people with ethical qualms will start to get weeded out - they'll be the only ones dying of old age. Yess, this plan is PERFECT

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  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I think it's the current culture of excess. I mean, so much of it is stuff that even people trying to be conscious about their indulgence take for granted and, if push came to shove, probably would consider it an unreasonable demand that they surrender. Those of us in welathy countries are living at the great expense of others, and this system isn't at all likely to be sustainable.

    Suppose that when you're turning 70 or so, the accepted social norm is to live in a cramped apartment building, eat a diet consisting of mostly lentils, adhere to some very strict bath regimen and use only a few hours of electricity at best per day (or some analagous scenario when you're being asked to give up most of what you currently take advantage of & enjoy); I'm really not sure I'd be willing to part with what I've grown up with that way, even it that made me a really terrible person.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2010
    Leitner wrote: »
    The Cat wrote: »
    I'm putting my money on body modification stuff. Genetic engineering, cyborgy stuff, etc. We have to run out of social issues to be bigoted about at some point, but fear of the new will always be with us.

    I don't know, that seems like it'd last right up until 'oh p.p.s. we can pull out all your old failing organs and put in something new'.

    And then they'll hate us for holding on to our accumulated wealth and the good jobs and refusing to die :P

    like the boomers, but worse

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  • MrMisterMrMister A pup must first get in the water to be successful as a seal!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I predict that racism will still be with us in 50 years, but that the racial categories we care about will be different. For instance, I would not be surprised at all if Asians go the way of the Jews and the Irish and are considered "white" by the turn of the mid-century.

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  • surrealitychecksurrealitycheck the search for the means to put an end to things an end to speech is what enables the discourse to continue ~ * ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) excelsior * ~Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I've always considered Latinos white, and I find it interesting they seem to get their own category in the US.

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  • dragonciaodragonciao Registered User
    edited May 2010
    Considering the current trend toward sharing personal information publicly (facebook, myspace, etc) I wouldn't be surprised if our generation was criticized clinging to our desire for "privacy". When we are all in our 80's and about to die people are going to be walking around life casting with web cams implanted in their skulls that immediately upload to their facepagebook or some ridiculous shit.

    I'll be in my basement behind a locked door playing vintage XBox 720 games on my antique LCD TV trying to avoid the cameras, and my grandchildren will think I am a crazy shut in.

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  • DrakeDrake Edgelord Trash Below the ecliptic plane.Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Gran'pa is such an old fogey. He doesn't trust the cybernetic hive mind with his body.

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  • enc0reenc0re Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
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  • MrVyngaardMrVyngaard Live From New Etoile Straight Outta SosariaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So I'm guessing that instead of shaking their head to how racist we are or something, our grandchildren will be frustrated about how little we care about anything?

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  • CognisseurCognisseur Registered User
    edited May 2010
    I dunno about this notion of the future generation so much better than us, here's why:

    -Previous generations were raised mostly by tradition and parental values. We hate gays. Why? Bible says so. Don't steal. Why? Because I told you to, shut the hell up.

    -Starting pretty much now, generations are being raised by a combination of tradition, parental values, and media... with tradition losing its foothold. I would argue that within 50 years, tradition will continue to lose its foothold to media, and parents will just become more detached in their parenting and assume media/schools can handle the job of socializing their kids.

    -Now, we can already see how media works -- pander to the lowest common denominator and say whatever they want to hear. Fox is naturally the worst culprit in this, as the majority of their "news" has no bearing to news of any sort, but the other stations are quickly catching up in recognizing news is totally an entertainment media now, not information media.

    -So what's going to raise our kids? We will, to varying degrees, with our own values of commercialism, apathy, and everything else you guys think they'll hate us for. The media will raise them, but their goal is just $texas and not actually raising your kid (buy Platinum Bling Bling Barbie now! you need one to be cool!), so I don't see any reason that'd help the kids turn out any better.

    -No, I'd say ethically, the next generation won't be that different except for changes due to scientific advancement. Like meat-eating. We learn more about how close animals are to humans, our children will learn about how pigs have relationships and play games and shit, and then they'll think us monsters for eating something so similar to ourselves.

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  • enc0reenc0re Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Nothing a delicious pork chop can't cure.

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  • DrakeDrake Edgelord Trash Below the ecliptic plane.Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Heck, future generations may enjoy the decadent thrill of eating cloned human flesh.

    No harm, no foul?

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  • GalielmusGalielmus Registered User
    edited May 2010
    Drake wrote: »
    Heck, future generations may enjoy the decadent thrill of eating cloned human flesh.

    No harm, no foul?

    And now I have hope for the future.

    But really, as Cognisseur said, I don't think the future generations will be "better" than us for many of the reasons he pointed out. That doesn't change the fact they may still look down on us for our archaic thinking, though, because it's more of a question of changes in society than what is actually right (morality being subjective and all).

    So perhaps all this forward thinking and planning for the future will one day be mocked and derided because, hey brah, just relax and slam a brewski.

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  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Heck, future generations may enjoy the decadent thrill of eating cloned human flesh.

    Soylent green is people!

    It's people!

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar Audio Game Developer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I expect it to be like the tides. Every cyle of liberalisation will get followed by a cycle of conservitism, in the "progress" and "run buckwards" senses. We'll probably make continual, slow progress, unless we get some massive movement that sends us back to the intellectual stone age (it has happened before), but we'll fight constant stupid battles the whole way there.

    I'm particularly worried about the generation right behind us, the kids just getting into college right now, who were more or less raised with the early internet from very close to day 1, with a lack of perspective of how things have changed as a result of it. The absolute deluge of crude communication devices that has left everyone walking around with their heads glued to a phone.

    I expect future generations to have a less clingy but still close relationship with these tools.

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    It'll probably be whatever marriage/rights issue comes up after we get full civil rights for gays.

    Think Polygamy, or human/AI marriages.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar Audio Game Developer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    The fight for polyamory is going to be incredibly frustrating, I can tell you that. The sheer number of law changes required.

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Essentially- the anti-environmentalism mindset of many people, as well as the anti-homosexuality mindset.

    Factory farming will be really thrashed; so will a lot of petroleum use (not all, however! it is still a good fuel in moderation!)

    Obviously gay rights will one day be a non-issue (I hope)

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar Audio Game Developer Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    There's always the fight for legalizing public nudity and semi-nudity.

    Though there are plenty of cities where you can run around nekkid or at least topless already.

    I love Seattle.

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  • THEPAIN73THEPAIN73 Shiny. Real shiny.Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Gay rights probably.

    I mean are we really still not letting them get married?

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