Man the point of Corporal punishment is that, punishment.
It shows a direct consequence of ones actions.
How about teaching your kids to do things properly, rather than teaching them that if they fuck up someone bigger is going to hit them? One day they're going to be the bigger person, y'know. Teaching them that it's absolutely A-Okay to hit those smaller than themselves is a really really bad idea.
And these are human children we're talking about, not . Y'know, the smartest race in the known universe. If you're teaching disobedient puppies then yeah, a little tap on the nose is fine. I'm just pretty sure kids are smart enough to figure stuff out with needing to get hit.
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I got smacked when I did something wrong when I was a kid. I knew why I got smacked too, it was because I did something wrong. My parents made sure I knew why I was getting punished.
Same here, before I got spanked, my parent's ALWAYS when on a lengthy explanation of exactly why I was getting spanked. At that age, there should be a significant consequence for a kids actions.
Now, I'm not saying you should always spank you kids, but, if it is used in tandem with other punishments, it's really fucking effective.
And, on topic, I think we have FINALLY found the BIG BOSS.
When i was little and i was naughty my mum just used to tap me on the ass and go "NO!" sternly and i'd cry from the sheer guilt of knowing id done something wrong and had upset my mum...
I'm still that way today, if i upset my parents i feel really bad for ages because they brought me up well and i repay them by being a dick to them sometimes.
I never got 'proper' spankings or 'beltings' but i know a friend who did, his dad used to spank him for stuff and now the guy is a crack head living somewhere with some skanky woman in a druggie infested flat/apartment with no money and job.
I have a home, with a fiancee and im secure and still respect my parents and their feelings.
I have lots of respect for my parents for raising me to be a normal, not fucked up, not criminal, not alcoholic, not pothead young adult. All without beatin my ass, afaik. Much props to them. I couldn't do it. Holy shit does parenting require patience... because I was a hell of a kid. I bit someone at kindercare and got kicked out. Balls.
There are certainly arguments for both sides of the corporal punishment debate. However, as a father, I can tell you with no shame that yes, both my wife and I spank our son. Not routinely. We don't do it for pleasure. Of course not. But the fact is that children can and will try to push their parents in order to see what they can get away with. It's in their nature. If you don't believe me then you probably don't have kids.
It is up to the parents to establish boundaries, and it's extremely difficult, if not impossible, to get a child's attention and let them know they've done wrong by simply saying "No Timmy, we don't do that.". When a child misbehaves, you start by raising your voice, though in my experience, that has limited effect. By far the more effective action is taking away a fond toy or whatever it is they are playing with at the time. However, children like to push parents' buttons, as said, and sometimes this results in a tantrum, or some other form of acting out. Here you can send them to time out, usually a pantry or other room without toys.
After this however, if things are still going downhill, sometimes a spanking is called for. You are not doing it to hurt the child or to leave any permanent damage, but simply to get the child's attention when all else fails in an effort to say “Listen, I'm the boss!†You also let them know exactly why you hit them, especially if they are old enough to understand.
I'm certainly not posting this to change anyone's opinion on the matter, but as I think I mentioned earlier, I think my wife and I are pretty good parents, and this is just our way of tackling the situations as they present themselves.
Man, I got my ass beat for some shit I did when I was little. My parents were divorced, had to stay after school with an abusive sitter who beat her kids for the littlest infractions.
I respect my Dad, for everything he ever did to me when I was int rouble. He had a firm hand and I knew why I was getting what I deserved. Do I hold it against him? nope. I am a very successful photographer/videographer with a security clearance, a wife, and 2 kids. I am currently raising them how my Dad raised me. When I am forced to discipline them, now understand...DISCIPLINE, I let them know why they are, depriving them of stuff just does not get the results. I teach them thier actions have direct consequences either emotionally or physically an dthey need to consider others. Thinking 2 minutes ahead isn't bad either, a whole shitload of trouble could be avoided just by thinking two minutes ahead.
To those people who equate a firm spanking with child abuse need to stfu and raise children. You learn the difference quick. Spare the rod, spoil the child. My kids love me, I love them and its my job to raise them to be productive members of society who obey the laws and understand the give and take of actions/consequences.
There are certainly arguments for both sides of the corporal punishment debate. However, as a father, I can tell you with no shame that yes, both my wife and I spank our son. Not routinely. We don't do it for pleasure. Of course not...
Sadly though some parents do garner some form of sick relief from spanking their children, it's like they do it because it's a way of saying "your putting me through so much shit, so this is what im going to do to you to get my own back"...
That kind of parenting makes my blood run cold, especially if a mother hits her child on the street for talking while shes chatting to one of her dumb blonde friends or does something like drop his mum's shopping bag...
There are certainly arguments for both sides of the corporal punishment debate. However, as a father, I can tell you with no shame that yes, both my wife and I spank our son. Not routinely. We don't do it for pleasure. Of course not...
Sadly though some parents do garner some form of sick relief from spanking their children, it's like they do it because it's a way of saying "your putting me through so much shit, so this is what im going to do to you to get my own back"...
That kind of parenting makes my blood run cold, especially if a mother hits her child on the street for talking while shes chatting to one of her dumb blonde friends or does something like drop his mum's shopping bag...
*shivers*
There is makes me think of an older 10,000 Maniacs song, What's The Matter Here, which talks about parental abuse from the outside looking in.
There are certainly arguments for both sides of the corporal punishment debate. However, as a father, I can tell you with no shame that yes, both my wife and I spank our son. Not routinely. We don't do it for pleasure. Of course not...
Sadly though some parents do garner some form of sick relief from spanking their children, it's like they do it because it's a way of saying "your putting me through so much shit, so this is what im going to do to you to get my own back"...
That kind of parenting makes my blood run cold, especially if a mother hits her child on the street for talking while shes chatting to one of her dumb blonde friends or does something like drop his mum's shopping bag...
*shivers*
There is makes me think of an older 10,000 Maniacs song, What's The Matter Here, which talks about parental abuse from the outside looking in.
Heh... I'm listening to that song now. So upbeat. :P
There are certainly arguments for both sides of the corporal punishment debate. However, as a father, I can tell you with no shame that yes, both my wife and I spank our son. Not routinely. We don't do it for pleasure. Of course not...
Sadly though some parents do garner some form of sick relief from spanking their children, it's like they do it because it's a way of saying "your putting me through so much shit, so this is what im going to do to you to get my own back"...
That kind of parenting makes my blood run cold, especially if a mother hits her child on the street for talking while shes chatting to one of her dumb blonde friends or does something like drop his mum's shopping bag...
*shivers*
There is makes me think of an older 10,000 Maniacs song, What's The Matter Here, which talks about parental abuse from the outside looking in.
Heh... I'm listening to that song now. So upbeat. :P
Merchant can make you laugh or cry. Anyway, off topic...
My mum told me once about this woman that would slap the shit out of her kid because he was always coming home at lunchtime 'ill' to 'play those stupid video games' and his mother would just say it was all bullshit, not take any notice of the kid and go off to work in a rage and leave the kid at home, only one day the kid was so sick he went to a neighbors house gasping and choking and was rushed to hospital, turned out he had bronchal pneumonia and his mother didn't even notice.
My dad beat the shit out of me with anything that would work (lincon logs, hot wheels track, combs, brushs, shoes, sandles). But then again, he also spoiled the shit out of my brothers and I when he had the time and money so it worked both ways. I mean, a muslim actually getting a dog for his kids says a lot about how much he loves them.
But we are getting off track from the story. We don't necessarily know that this boy lacked discipline, we merely know that he was determined to accomplish a goal and really worked his 9 year old brain (which i believe is much more powerful than a 9 year old's brain should be) and got very close to his objective. I believe he displayed characteristics of advanced intelligence and should be disciplined for his criminal actions at juvie or a military school and then inducted into a private academy in preperation for a leadership role in the military suited to his advanced intelligence and decision making skills. Before we do all that, lets make the boy take an IQ test and see how smart he is?
My dad beat the shit out of me with anything that would work (lincon logs, hot wheels track, combs, brushs, shoes, sandles). But then again, he also spoiled the shit out of my brothers and I when he had the time and money so it worked both ways. I mean, a muslim actually getting a dog for his kids says a lot about how much he loves them.
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What the FUCK?
"Let's beat our kids with their own toys!"
Seriously man that is one fucked up family, no offense.
Same here, before I got spanked, my parent's ALWAYS when on a lengthy explanation of exactly why I was getting spanked. At that age, there should be a significant consequence for a kids actions.
Now, I'm not saying you should always spank you kids, but, if it is used in tandem with other punishments, it's really fucking effective.
And, on topic, I think we have FINALLY found the BIG BOSS.
Hm, we kinda talked about that in this socio-poli philosophy class I took last semester. The issue was that some parents explain to their children why they deserve to get beat and why they should accept it. This was fast-forwarded to where these ex-children were now in abusive relationships wherein the abuser would explain why they hit them or whatever. Since they were trained as kids to be fine with that, it causes them to stay in this bad relationship. Totally off topic, but you made me think of that.
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Same here, before I got spanked, my parent's ALWAYS when on a lengthy explanation of exactly why I was getting spanked. At that age, there should be a significant consequence for a kids actions.
Now, I'm not saying you should always spank you kids, but, if it is used in tandem with other punishments, it's really fucking effective.
And, on topic, I think we have FINALLY found the BIG BOSS.
Hm, we kinda talked about that in this socio-poli philosophy class I took last semester. The issue was that some parents explain to their children why they deserve to get beat and why they should accept it. This was fast-forwarded to where these ex-children were now in abusive relationships wherein the abuser would explain why they hit them or whatever. Since they were trained as kids to be fine with that, it causes them to stay in this bad relationship. Totally off topic, but you made me think of that.
I always wondered about this too, because if someone came up to me now and said "Im going to kick your ass now, because i didn't like what you just did, and you got to just accept that ok?" im sure i wouldn't just go "oh ok... sorry" and get my ass kicked...
This philosophy must really fuck your kids heads up.
Well, with my family, it was: "I am spanking you with hot wheels track because it was the first thing I found and i am beating you cause you are being lazy and messy and should clean your damn room. Respect your elders and whatnot but don't let anyone else beat you, beat them instead. Now stop crying and clean up so we can go get pizza and rent you a game"
Well, with my family, it was: "I am spanking you with hot wheels track because it was the first thing I found and i am beating you cause you are being lazy and messy and should clean your damn room. Respect your elders and whatnot but don't let anyone else beat you, beat them instead. Now stop crying and clean up so we can go get pizza and rent you a game"
Same here, before I got spanked, my parent's ALWAYS when on a lengthy explanation of exactly why I was getting spanked. At that age, there should be a significant consequence for a kids actions.
Now, I'm not saying you should always spank you kids, but, if it is used in tandem with other punishments, it's really fucking effective.
And, on topic, I think we have FINALLY found the BIG BOSS.
Hm, we kinda talked about that in this socio-poli philosophy class I took last semester. The issue was that some parents explain to their children why they deserve to get beat and why they should accept it. This was fast-forwarded to where these ex-children were now in abusive relationships wherein the abuser would explain why they hit them or whatever. Since they were trained as kids to be fine with that, it causes them to stay in this bad relationship. Totally off topic, but you made me think of that.
I always wondered about this too, because if someone came up to me now and said "Im going to kick your ass now, because i didn't like what you just did, and you got to just accept that ok?" im sure i wouldn't just go "oh ok... sorry" and get my ass kicked...
This philosophy must really fuck your kids heads up.
Yeah, it would be a pretty bad conditioning for them. Sure, most people would probably get over it, yet it's obvious that not only is the abusee still influenced by their childhood, but the abuser is as well. I mean, how many of you are talking about how you were spanked or whatever as a child, and are just fine now? I bet you are just fine, but that same mentality is going to work for almost any disciplinary measures you experience. I don't know why I'm talking about this.
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Same here, before I got spanked, my parent's ALWAYS when on a lengthy explanation of exactly why I was getting spanked. At that age, there should be a significant consequence for a kids actions.
Now, I'm not saying you should always spank you kids, but, if it is used in tandem with other punishments, it's really fucking effective.
And, on topic, I think we have FINALLY found the BIG BOSS.
Hm, we kinda talked about that in this socio-poli philosophy class I took last semester. The issue was that some parents explain to their children why they deserve to get beat and why they should accept it. This was fast-forwarded to where these ex-children were now in abusive relationships wherein the abuser would explain why they hit them or whatever. Since they were trained as kids to be fine with that, it causes them to stay in this bad relationship. Totally off topic, but you made me think of that.
I always wondered about this too, because if someone came up to me now and said "Im going to kick your ass now, because i didn't like what you just did, and you got to just accept that ok?" im sure i wouldn't just go "oh ok... sorry" and get my ass kicked...
This philosophy must really fuck your kids heads up.
Yeah, it would be a pretty bad conditioning for them. Sure, most people would probably get over it, yet it's obvious that not only is the abusee still influenced by their childhood, but the abuser is as well. I mean, how many of you are talking about how you were spanked or whatever as a child, and are just fine now? I bet you are just fine, but that same mentality is going to work for almost any disciplinary measures you experience. I don't know why I'm talking about this.
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Abusive relationships whatnow?
Now, in my previously quoted statement, did I say that they told me to accept why I was going to get spanked?
Unless I'm blind, all signs point to no...
All in all, the effectiveness of spanking is SERIOUSLY dependant on the judgment of parent. Just like, well, EVERYTHING involved in raising a child. Spanking is a tool. grounding is a tool.Time-out is a tool.
Any tool used improperly could cause significant damage.
However, to clain that normal, healthy spanking causes more harm then good is kinda ludicrious.
Edit: In retrospect, I retract the previous statement I made. What I meant:
Some form of physical discipline should be instituted in every parental situation, because it teaches the values of consequences. Perhaps you may think that a soft spanking is cruel and unusual, but it has its merits.
Would a regimen of pushups or something be more appropriate? I think 50 pushups would be a lot worse to be on the receiving end, but it wouldn't be laying a hand on the child.
So yes, physical discipline has merits. Choose how you will do it.
I had a mix of both growing up, and I think that I am a fine, well-adjusted adult and I admire my parents for disciplining me.
However, to clain that normal, healthy spanking causes more harm then good is kinda ludicrious.
Actually, it's not. You might not agree with it, but the claim that hitting your child can cause more harm than good is far from ludicrous.
I think the claim that no discipline is better than discipline is pretty ludicrous.
And I'd totally agree. But, of course, that's not what he said. And that's not what anybody in this thread has said, either.
I think the fact that when a lot of people hear "discipline" they automatically think "spanking" is part of the reason why things like these happen. Discipline is not only punishing your child physically when they do something wrong.
However, to clain that normal, healthy spanking causes more harm then good is kinda ludicrious.
Actually, it's not. You might not agree with it, but the claim that hitting your child can cause more harm than good is far from ludicrous.
I think the claim that no discipline is better than discipline is pretty ludicrous.
And I'd totally agree. But, of course, that's not what he said. And that's not what anybody in this thread has said, either.
Okay, this is going to get a little hairy.
Hitting is bad, yes. Physical Discipline, when applied properly, is not.
There is a big diffence between hitting your kid because he talks to fucking much, and, spanking your kid because playing with knives is in no way safe.
However, I do agree with you, hitting your kinds, in general, yeah, not a very good idea .
However, to clain that normal, healthy spanking causes more harm then good is kinda ludicrious.
Actually, it's not. You might not agree with it, but the claim that hitting your child can cause more harm than good is far from ludicrous.
I think the claim that no discipline is better than discipline is pretty ludicrous.
And I'd totally agree. But, of course, that's not what he said. And that's not what anybody in this thread has said, either.
Okay, this is going to get a little hairy.
Hitting is bad, yes. Physical Discipline, when applied properly, is not.
There is a big diffence between hitting your kid because he talks to fucking much, and, spanking your kid because playing with knives is in no way safe.
However, I do agree with you, hitting your kinds, in general, yeah, not a very good idea .
physical punishment should be a last resort when all other lines have failed, not the immediate solution you jump to when trying to correct behavior.
However, to clain that normal, healthy spanking causes more harm then good is kinda ludicrious.
Actually, it's not. You might not agree with it, but the claim that hitting your child can cause more harm than good is far from ludicrous.
I think the claim that no discipline is better than discipline is pretty ludicrous.
And I'd totally agree. But, of course, that's not what he said. And that's not what anybody in this thread has said, either.
Okay, this is going to get a little hairy.
Hitting is bad, yes. Physical Discipline, when applied properly, is not.
There is a big diffence between hitting your kid because he talks to fucking much, and, spanking your kid because playing with knives is in no way safe.
However, I do agree with you, hitting your kinds, in general, yeah, not a very good idea .
physical punishment should be a last resort when all other lines have failed, not the immediate solution you jump to when trying to correct behavior.
Nail, I would like you to meet someone, his name is head. Feel free to hit him if you would like.
pretty stupid of the cops to get into a car chase though. many states have already abandoned the idea of car chases because of the danger it puts on civilians.
When all you have is a hammer every problem looks like a nail. As someone else mentioned physical punishment is one tool, not the only tool, but it is a valuable one.
Why is this kid smooth? Because he drove a car erratically (going 90 is dangerous especially for someone who can't possibly control the car not to mention this wasn't a race track, there could have been a pedestrian or any number of things that make this story have a tragic ending) and then falsified information to get on some planes? Let this ass rot in cell for a bit to learn what really happens when you pull that James Bond shit in the real world.
Smooth my ass, I see this and I see someone who has the potential to not understand the word no because he lacked discipline at a young age and now those around him will suffer.
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I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
physical punishment should be a last resort when all other lines have failed, not the immediate solution you jump to when trying to correct behavior.
The problem my parents ran into is that physical punishment stopped working. My brothers and I figured out that pain is pretty damned short-term as compared to just about every other punishment I've ever heard of.
Yeah, beating a kid doesn't teach them right from wrong. It just teaches them fear, and how not to get caught.
Which is why virtually no one advises a spanking without any sort of verbal admonition and instruction alongside. Corporal punishment isn't a method of instruction, and it's absolutely not an excuse to vent some frustration; it's a way to get your child's attention, and as Bionic Monkey said, to break his will. But I can easily see this becoming its own thread, so if anyone wants to continue it in D&D, I think I'll hop into that.
Zeon, regardless of whether or not she could stop him now (and there are probably at least a few measures that can be taken to keep him from stealing cars), she failed to teach him why not to do that. You're right that kids can't make these kinds of decisions properly:
i just dont think a 9 year old has the higher reasoning to make the link between wrong and stealing a car, if theyre at the same time so highly motivated to get somewhere
But because that is the case, and not in spite of it, she's at fault for not instilling some modicum of discipline in her child. At this age, the boy needs to know that she's the boss, and she certainly hasn't made this clear to him.
How about teaching your kids to do things properly, rather than teaching them that if they fuck up someone bigger is going to hit them?
Isn't that Christianity in a nutshell?
In theory. Also in theory, parents use violence only as a last resort, and only out of desire for discipline and not as a way to vent their own anger. Theories sure are awesome.
So I was in the bus yesterday and I saw a kid and his mom that made me think of this thread.
The kid was probably 10 or so, pretty annoying and loud. There were no places to sit, so he and his mom were standing somewhere. Then the kid went "I WANT TO SIT THERE WHERE THE FAT LADY IS!" and his mom went "No, there's already someone" and the boy went "I WANT TO SIT WHERE THAT FAT [female dog synonym] IS!" (In french, of course) And is mother was all like "Sorry but we can't there's already someone there"
So of course the "fat" lady in question wasn't too happy. And I was really baffled by the fact that the mother did apologise but to the kid. Everybody was looking at them too. And some people seem brighter than others, because I've heard talks of "not knowing how to teach respect" and all that.
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Same here, before I got spanked, my parent's ALWAYS when on a lengthy explanation of exactly why I was getting spanked. At that age, there should be a significant consequence for a kids actions.
Now, I'm not saying you should always spank you kids, but, if it is used in tandem with other punishments, it's really fucking effective.
And, on topic, I think we have FINALLY found the BIG BOSS.
I'm still that way today, if i upset my parents i feel really bad for ages because they brought me up well and i repay them by being a dick to them sometimes.
I never got 'proper' spankings or 'beltings' but i know a friend who did, his dad used to spank him for stuff and now the guy is a crack head living somewhere with some skanky woman in a druggie infested flat/apartment with no money and job.
I have a home, with a fiancee and im secure and still respect my parents and their feelings.
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It is up to the parents to establish boundaries, and it's extremely difficult, if not impossible, to get a child's attention and let them know they've done wrong by simply saying "No Timmy, we don't do that.". When a child misbehaves, you start by raising your voice, though in my experience, that has limited effect. By far the more effective action is taking away a fond toy or whatever it is they are playing with at the time. However, children like to push parents' buttons, as said, and sometimes this results in a tantrum, or some other form of acting out. Here you can send them to time out, usually a pantry or other room without toys.
After this however, if things are still going downhill, sometimes a spanking is called for. You are not doing it to hurt the child or to leave any permanent damage, but simply to get the child's attention when all else fails in an effort to say “Listen, I'm the boss!†You also let them know exactly why you hit them, especially if they are old enough to understand.
I'm certainly not posting this to change anyone's opinion on the matter, but as I think I mentioned earlier, I think my wife and I are pretty good parents, and this is just our way of tackling the situations as they present themselves.
I respect my Dad, for everything he ever did to me when I was int rouble. He had a firm hand and I knew why I was getting what I deserved. Do I hold it against him? nope. I am a very successful photographer/videographer with a security clearance, a wife, and 2 kids. I am currently raising them how my Dad raised me. When I am forced to discipline them, now understand...DISCIPLINE, I let them know why they are, depriving them of stuff just does not get the results. I teach them thier actions have direct consequences either emotionally or physically an dthey need to consider others. Thinking 2 minutes ahead isn't bad either, a whole shitload of trouble could be avoided just by thinking two minutes ahead.
To those people who equate a firm spanking with child abuse need to stfu and raise children. You learn the difference quick. Spare the rod, spoil the child. My kids love me, I love them and its my job to raise them to be productive members of society who obey the laws and understand the give and take of actions/consequences.
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Sadly though some parents do garner some form of sick relief from spanking their children, it's like they do it because it's a way of saying "your putting me through so much shit, so this is what im going to do to you to get my own back"...
That kind of parenting makes my blood run cold, especially if a mother hits her child on the street for talking while shes chatting to one of her dumb blonde friends or does something like drop his mum's shopping bag...
*shivers*
There is makes me think of an older 10,000 Maniacs song, What's The Matter Here, which talks about parental abuse from the outside looking in.
Heh... I'm listening to that song now. So upbeat. :P
Merchant can make you laugh or cry. Anyway, off topic...
You shouldn't kick me in the balls, Mrs. Kelly. My sister kicked me in the balls once...
Great movie
But we are getting off track from the story. We don't necessarily know that this boy lacked discipline, we merely know that he was determined to accomplish a goal and really worked his 9 year old brain (which i believe is much more powerful than a 9 year old's brain should be) and got very close to his objective. I believe he displayed characteristics of advanced intelligence and should be disciplined for his criminal actions at juvie or a military school and then inducted into a private academy in preperation for a leadership role in the military suited to his advanced intelligence and decision making skills. Before we do all that, lets make the boy take an IQ test and see how smart he is?
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
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What the FUCK?
"Let's beat our kids with their own toys!"
Seriously man that is one fucked up family, no offense.
dream a little dream or you could live a little dream
sleep forever if you wish to be a dreamer
This philosophy must really fuck your kids heads up.
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
Umm...
No comment.
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Abusive relationships whatnow?
Now, in my previously quoted statement, did I say that they told me to accept why I was going to get spanked?
Unless I'm blind, all signs point to no...
All in all, the effectiveness of spanking is SERIOUSLY dependant on the judgment of parent. Just like, well, EVERYTHING involved in raising a child. Spanking is a tool. grounding is a tool.Time-out is a tool.
Any tool used improperly could cause significant damage.
However, to clain that normal, healthy spanking causes more harm then good is kinda ludicrious.
Is that Italian?
Some form of physical discipline should be instituted in every parental situation, because it teaches the values of consequences. Perhaps you may think that a soft spanking is cruel and unusual, but it has its merits.
Would a regimen of pushups or something be more appropriate? I think 50 pushups would be a lot worse to be on the receiving end, but it wouldn't be laying a hand on the child.
So yes, physical discipline has merits. Choose how you will do it.
I had a mix of both growing up, and I think that I am a fine, well-adjusted adult and I admire my parents for disciplining me.
Okay, this is going to get a little hairy.
Hitting is bad, yes. Physical Discipline, when applied properly, is not.
There is a big diffence between hitting your kid because he talks to fucking much, and, spanking your kid because playing with knives is in no way safe.
However, I do agree with you, hitting your kinds, in general, yeah, not a very good idea
physical punishment should be a last resort when all other lines have failed, not the immediate solution you jump to when trying to correct behavior.
Nail, I would like you to meet someone, his name is head. Feel free to hit him if you would like.
pretty stupid of the cops to get into a car chase though. many states have already abandoned the idea of car chases because of the danger it puts on civilians.
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Why is this kid smooth? Because he drove a car erratically (going 90 is dangerous especially for someone who can't possibly control the car not to mention this wasn't a race track, there could have been a pedestrian or any number of things that make this story have a tragic ending) and then falsified information to get on some planes? Let this ass rot in cell for a bit to learn what really happens when you pull that James Bond shit in the real world.
Smooth my ass, I see this and I see someone who has the potential to not understand the word no because he lacked discipline at a young age and now those around him will suffer.
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although i did end up giving it to myself in school.
when the heaviest injury you've sustained in your memory was self inflicted, you tend to stop caring about most pain.
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Zeon, regardless of whether or not she could stop him now (and there are probably at least a few measures that can be taken to keep him from stealing cars), she failed to teach him why not to do that. You're right that kids can't make these kinds of decisions properly: But because that is the case, and not in spite of it, she's at fault for not instilling some modicum of discipline in her child. At this age, the boy needs to know that she's the boss, and she certainly hasn't made this clear to him.
Isn't that Christianity in a nutshell?
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The kid was probably 10 or so, pretty annoying and loud. There were no places to sit, so he and his mom were standing somewhere. Then the kid went "I WANT TO SIT THERE WHERE THE FAT LADY IS!" and his mom went "No, there's already someone" and the boy went "I WANT TO SIT WHERE THAT FAT [female dog synonym] IS!" (In french, of course) And is mother was all like "Sorry but we can't there's already someone there"
So of course the "fat" lady in question wasn't too happy. And I was really baffled by the fact that the mother did apologise but to the kid. Everybody was looking at them too. And some people seem brighter than others, because I've heard talks of "not knowing how to teach respect" and all that.
...yeah