I guess you can get away with a gg shirt in Korea.
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I will throw you on the land and hurl you on the open field. I will let all the birds of the air settle on you and all the beasts of the earth gorge themselves on you. I will spread your flesh on the mountains and fill the valleys with your remains. I will drench the land with your flowing blood all the way to the mountains, and the ravines will be filled with your flesh. - Ezekiel 32: 4-6
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I'd just like to pop in here and say that smurfing fucking destroyed the WC3 ladder and matchmaking system, and it didn't take long at all.
It's one of those vicious cycle things. When smurfing reaches a critical mass it encourages more people to do it since they are tired of getting constantly smurfed themselves.
Interesting starting to breed some pretty impressive people in the poker world. A number of former competitors in south korea are making good money. Elky comes to mind. You think about it, starcraft is kinda a game of poker, but you controll what cards you hold.
Basically what it comes down to every match on the ladder will have a winner and a loser.
The winner will probably be having more fun than the loser. The loser being ground into atomic dust in 6 minutes is a situation that Blizz wants to avoid.
So sometimes you want an easy game, sometimes you want to practice or just stuff around. Basically what you are saying here is sometimes you want to play an opponent who isn't a threat. Someone you are much better than. This is the situation that blizzard is trying to avoid.
Basically people need to get over their fear of adding losses to their profile. If you gonna swap races you are going to be lower rated for a while, does it matter if this lower rating is on your new profile or an old one?
Basically what it comes down to every match on the ladder will have a winner and a loser.
The winner will probably be having more fun than the loser. The loser being ground into atomic dust in 6 minutes is a situation that Blizz wants to avoid.
So sometimes you want an easy game, sometimes you want to practice or just stuff around. Basically what you are saying here is sometimes you want to play an opponent who isn't a threat. Someone you are much better than. This is the situation that blizzard is trying to avoid.
Basically people need to get over their fear of adding losses to their profile. If you gonna swap races you are going to be lower rated for a while, does it matter if this lower rating is on your new profile or an old one?
I still have the fear of losing though I am getting better about it. At least when I lose in SC2 its over pretty quick.
The problem with smurfing is more than just the frustration of getting stomped when you're new - every game with totally out of whack skill balance just fucks over the matchmaking accuracy that much more. If a decent player loses to a smurf, his rating gets lower and now he's getting matched against worse players himself, etc... It's a chain reaction that will break the system if it's too common.
Day9 talks too much at the beginning and end of his videos, especially considering how much he repeats himself. His commentaries are too long because of this.
OTOH for Bliz, the reasons for wanting to end smurfing are a little more...green.
I think I got this now. If Blizzard forces everyone to buy multiple copies of the game to have separate accounts, people probably won't do it. This in turn reduces the number of copies being sold, thus creating less box waste, THUS SAVING THE ENVIRONMENT!
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That was 2002. People don't consider WC3 "competitive" until Frozen Throne was released in 2003. Are all those burly men smurfs? Unlikely. 2004 comes along, Bliz wants to put a stop to smurfing, tweaks matchmaking so it's tied to activity, causing higher ranked players to wait 30 minutes to locate a game. This isn't even restricted to top ranked players with thousands of games. The effects could be seen at 100 games played. Guess what people did just to find games?
WoW happened.
DOTA also happened.
I think both might have contributed heavily to WC3 ladder population dwindling dramatically. To place the blame squarely on smurfs is rather short sighted imo.
SC2 is obviously in a better position than WC3 was...and not because they limit you to only 1 name per account.
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I will throw you on the land and hurl you on the open field. I will let all the birds of the air settle on you and all the beasts of the earth gorge themselves on you. I will spread your flesh on the mountains and fill the valleys with your remains. I will drench the land with your flowing blood all the way to the mountains, and the ravines will be filled with your flesh. - Ezekiel 32: 4-6
I will throw you on the land and hurl you on the open field. I will let all the birds of the air settle on you and all the beasts of the earth gorge themselves on you. I will spread your flesh on the mountains and fill the valleys with your remains. I will drench the land with your flowing blood all the way to the mountains, and the ravines will be filled with your flesh. - Ezekiel 32: 4-6
That was 2002. People don't consider WC3 "competitive" until Frozen Throne was released in 2003. Are all those burly men smurfs? Unlikely. 2004 comes along, Bliz wants to put a stop to smurfing, tweaks matchmaking so it's tied to activity, causing higher ranked players to wait 30 minutes to locate a game. This isn't even restricted to top ranked players with thousands of games. The effects could be seen at 100 games played. Guess what people did just to find games?
WoW happened.
DOTA also happened.
I think both might have contributed heavily to WC3 ladder population dwindling dramatically. To place the blame squarely on smurfs is rather short sighted imo.
SC2 is obviously in a better position than WC3 was...and not because they limit you to only 1 name per account.
Day9 talks too much at the beginning and end of his videos, especially considering how much he repeats himself. His commentaries are too long because of this.
I like his commentary in the beginning, it's usually pretty funny. I don't listen to the questions at the end because other people are stupid and ask stupid things.
The main gripe is that even custom games are viewable.
I'm 100% for ladder games being published. That only helps the community. Thumbs up to Bliz there.
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I will throw you on the land and hurl you on the open field. I will let all the birds of the air settle on you and all the beasts of the earth gorge themselves on you. I will spread your flesh on the mountains and fill the valleys with your remains. I will drench the land with your flowing blood all the way to the mountains, and the ravines will be filled with your flesh. - Ezekiel 32: 4-6
wait, why is it bad to see other people's build orders? i like that feature.
For most normal players, it's not really a big deal. I love stalking my friends' histories and trying to learn stuff from them.
I can see the point the pro level people are trying to make though: If you have money riding on a match and your opponent can just look up your build orders and see you've practiced the same builds on the same maps over and over, they can infer you're practicing that build for the tournament and come up with a hard counter to it.
Edit: and what Ezekiel said. Really the only modification Blizz would need to make would be blocking custom games from the public history.
I like the idea of having separate ladders per race.
Pretty simple solution.
That would be so nice. One ladder for your Protoss, one for your Zerg, one for your Terran, one for your Random.
I'm kind of decent at Protoss. Throughout the first few months of the beta I went from Copper (Hahhaa, see my videos) to Bronze to Silver and finally, towards the end, Gold.
But my Zerg and Terran play was absolutely terrible. It was not really fair to me to be playing someone who could handle my pretty decent Protoss play - but would absolutely stomp me at my Zerg and Terran play.
"It's ridiculous, private games should never appear in your matchlist, or at least the build orders shouldn't. I'll give an example from a recent tournament I played (Viking Cup #2 finals). My opponent for the finals was Failo from Denmark, so throughout the day leading up to the final, I simply checked through all his practice TvT games and looked at the build orders he'd been using. On Incineration Zone I noticed that he had an 8 rax cheese prepared, so I simply decided to go 10 rax to counter it. I never go 10 rax TvT, but this time, because I KNEW what he was doing, I did it and got a free win instead of what would have been a very likely loss, had I done a normal 12 rax or even my standard adaption for maps such as Incineration Zone - the 11 rax." -Jinro
I admit, I did this against a fellow PA'er in the last tournament I was in. I was straight-up expecting his practiced cheese.
Mind you, I panicked and fucked up my build and it nearly cost me the game, but I probably would have straight-up lost if I couldn't go zip through his game history and see how he'd been practicing the map in the past day.
It affects amateurs as well. Not that the feature affecting pros wouldn't be enough alone for it to be bad.
Try to jump on the apparent harmless n00bie more often kk?
Well considering I have only done it once I think I'm ok kk.. and my intent was not to be a total jerk but if it came off that way I apologize as I see how it could have appeared like that.
Day9 talks too much at the beginning and end of his videos, especially considering how much he repeats himself. His commentaries are too long because of this.
I like his commentary in the beginning, it's usually pretty funny. I don't listen to the questions at the end because other people are stupid and ask stupid things.
Yeah I almost always find his intros funny, he's just such a charismatic guy. As for the questions at the end, you know they're coming so you can just turn if off if you want, obviously some people appreciate them
Put me in the category of thinking one account per person is one of the best decisions they made.
I agree I think this is a good idea as well, but I think I like the idea mentioned above with a different ladder for different races. If I get good enough with one race it will not be that fun to off-race and get smashed while I am trying to learn them.
Day9 talks too much at the beginning and end of his videos, especially considering how much he repeats himself. His commentaries are too long because of this.
I like his commentary in the beginning, it's usually pretty funny. I don't listen to the questions at the end because other people are stupid and ask stupid things.
Yeah I almost always find his intros funny, he's just such a charismatic guy.
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At numerous points, I assume he likes to hear himself talk. Best commentator is still HD Starcraft
Interview is on the boring side, but the title says it all.
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I will throw you on the land and hurl you on the open field. I will let all the birds of the air settle on you and all the beasts of the earth gorge themselves on you. I will spread your flesh on the mountains and fill the valleys with your remains. I will drench the land with your flowing blood all the way to the mountains, and the ravines will be filled with your flesh. - Ezekiel 32: 4-6
I like HD but he makes some dumb, dumb comments almost every video.
Like some of them it's obvious that he's just mixing up words while trying to cast live, but others are stupid bad.
e: Also I remember way back in the original Beta release thread I posted HD's videos as one of the only high quality videos on youtube so far and everyone here was talking trash about him. Fast forward a few months and he's like the most popular commentator on the youtubes :P
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That site...my god. I would not wear a single thing from it.
I guess you can get away with a gg shirt in Korea.
not gonna order it but I'd wear it in theory
It's one of those vicious cycle things. When smurfing reaches a critical mass it encourages more people to do it since they are tired of getting constantly smurfed themselves.
So nothing like Poker at all then.
I think it's more like Warcraft but in space, now that I think about it.
Nah, Warhammer already tried that when copying Warcraft failed.
Warhammer around 1983
Warcraft: Orcs & Humans (1994)
Warhammer 40K Rogue Trader (1987) Second Edition (1993)
StarCraft 1998
That all being said I love all the above games.
The winner will probably be having more fun than the loser. The loser being ground into atomic dust in 6 minutes is a situation that Blizz wants to avoid.
So sometimes you want an easy game, sometimes you want to practice or just stuff around. Basically what you are saying here is sometimes you want to play an opponent who isn't a threat. Someone you are much better than. This is the situation that blizzard is trying to avoid.
Basically people need to get over their fear of adding losses to their profile. If you gonna swap races you are going to be lower rated for a while, does it matter if this lower rating is on your new profile or an old one?
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I think I get the joke.....
I still have the fear of losing though I am getting better about it. At least when I lose in SC2 its over pretty quick.
Try to jump on the apparent harmless n00bie more often kk?
Day9 talks too much at the beginning and end of his videos, especially considering how much he repeats himself. His commentaries are too long because of this.
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That was 2002. People don't consider WC3 "competitive" until Frozen Throne was released in 2003. Are all those burly men smurfs? Unlikely. 2004 comes along, Bliz wants to put a stop to smurfing, tweaks matchmaking so it's tied to activity, causing higher ranked players to wait 30 minutes to locate a game. This isn't even restricted to top ranked players with thousands of games. The effects could be seen at 100 games played. Guess what people did just to find games?
WoW happened.
DOTA also happened.
I think both might have contributed heavily to WC3 ladder population dwindling dramatically. To place the blame squarely on smurfs is rather short sighted imo.
SC2 is obviously in a better position than WC3 was...and not because they limit you to only 1 name per account.
Pretty simple solution.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/7/26/
Apparently some people see that as a reason a pro gamer would NEED to create a second account, so no one can spy on their build orders.
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I like his commentary in the beginning, it's usually pretty funny. I don't listen to the questions at the end because other people are stupid and ask stupid things.
I'm 100% for ladder games being published. That only helps the community. Thumbs up to Bliz there.
For most normal players, it's not really a big deal. I love stalking my friends' histories and trying to learn stuff from them.
I can see the point the pro level people are trying to make though: If you have money riding on a match and your opponent can just look up your build orders and see you've practiced the same builds on the same maps over and over, they can infer you're practicing that build for the tournament and come up with a hard counter to it.
Edit: and what Ezekiel said. Really the only modification Blizz would need to make would be blocking custom games from the public history.
That would be so nice. One ladder for your Protoss, one for your Zerg, one for your Terran, one for your Random.
I'm kind of decent at Protoss. Throughout the first few months of the beta I went from Copper (Hahhaa, see my videos) to Bronze to Silver and finally, towards the end, Gold.
But my Zerg and Terran play was absolutely terrible. It was not really fair to me to be playing someone who could handle my pretty decent Protoss play - but would absolutely stomp me at my Zerg and Terran play.
It affects amateurs as well. Not that the feature affecting pros wouldn't be enough alone for it to be bad.
That's kind of a big deal for tourneys
Well considering I have only done it once I think I'm ok kk.. and my intent was not to be a total jerk but if it came off that way I apologize as I see how it could have appeared like that.
Yeah I almost always find his intros funny, he's just such a charismatic guy. As for the questions at the end, you know they're coming so you can just turn if off if you want, obviously some people appreciate them
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I agree I think this is a good idea as well, but I think I like the idea mentioned above with a different ladder for different races. If I get good enough with one race it will not be that fun to off-race and get smashed while I am trying to learn them.
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At numerous points, I assume he likes to hear himself talk. Best commentator is still HD Starcraft
Interview is on the boring side, but the title says it all.
Like some of them it's obvious that he's just mixing up words while trying to cast live, but others are stupid bad.
e: Also I remember way back in the original Beta release thread I posted HD's videos as one of the only high quality videos on youtube so far and everyone here was talking trash about him. Fast forward a few months and he's like the most popular commentator on the youtubes :P