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What have I wrought? How to get out of a lease.

Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
edited June 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
Welp, I may have made a mistake.
I signed a 12 month lease, with three free months rent over the summer.
It looked wonderful.
Now I have 2 decent roommates and one roommate that is a complete and total child.
Top that with maintenance not being done, my locks got changed but they don't fit the door to my room, et cetera.
I began reading review sites and it looks like they will attempt to financially butthurt me when I leave.
If things don't get better soon, I will need to terminate this lease.
I've only been here five days, but the outlook seems pretty grim.
What should I start documenting if I need to violate a lease.

I know I have certain rights as a tenant including covenants of quiet enjoyment and covenants of safe living.
Help, H/A!

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    As far as maintenance goes, you need to start requesting things in writing, and documenting them, including date, who you contacted, what (if anything) was done, and when it was done.

    You should take another look at your lease and see if you have an escape clause within the first X amount of time, or if local laws require such a thing. Look fast, though.

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  • hectorsehectorse Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    what's the situation with the roommates?

    Do they approve of the problem person? If they don't you can have him thrown out fairly easily. About the repairs thing, than is right. Do it in writing and do tell it's a security issue.

    I wouldn't give up on 3 month free rent though. Try to work with what you have

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Where do you live? Is it a corporate rental or from an individual?

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    My sister broke her lease after about 7 months of her 15 month lease. She was charged $2900 to leave. You MIGHT be okay if you talk to them now about the things. After 5 days all they can charge you is the lease breaking fee and at least one months rent since you're already there.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    hectorse wrote: »
    what's the situation with the roommates?

    Do they approve of the problem person? If they don't you can have him thrown out fairly easily. About the repairs thing, than is right. Do it in writing and do tell it's a security issue.

    I wouldn't give up on 3 month free rent though. Try to work with what you have

    If he breaks the lease they will charge him for the 3 free months. It's considered a "concession fee".

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  • SipexSipex Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Also, it's only been 5 days, now's the perfect time to confront said childish roommate (hopefully with backup) and get this fraction sorted out.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    urahonky wrote: »
    My sister broke her lease after about 7 months of her 15 month lease. She was charged $2900 to leave. You MIGHT be okay if you talk to them now about the things. After 5 days all they can charge you is the lease breaking fee and at least one months rent since you're already there.

    That's not necessarily true and will depend completely on the local laws.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    adytum wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    My sister broke her lease after about 7 months of her 15 month lease. She was charged $2900 to leave. You MIGHT be okay if you talk to them now about the things. After 5 days all they can charge you is the lease breaking fee and at least one months rent since you're already there.

    That's not necessarily true and will depend completely on the local laws.

    If you've signed the lease I can guarantee you there is something on there about breaking the lease early. Just saying.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    urahonky wrote: »
    adytum wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    My sister broke her lease after about 7 months of her 15 month lease. She was charged $2900 to leave. You MIGHT be okay if you talk to them now about the things. After 5 days all they can charge you is the lease breaking fee and at least one months rent since you're already there.

    That's not necessarily true and will depend completely on the local laws.

    If you've signed the lease I can guarantee you there is something on there about breaking the lease early. Just saying.

    Of course there will be a section detailing the repercussions from breaking the lease, but not every lease is the same. The last lease I signed was structured such that if the lease was broken at any point during the period the entire amount for the rest of the year would be payable immediately. And yes, because of my states horrible landlord-tenant laws, it would probably be enforceable.

    OP needs to read his lease.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    urahonky wrote: »
    adytum wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    My sister broke her lease after about 7 months of her 15 month lease. She was charged $2900 to leave. You MIGHT be okay if you talk to them now about the things. After 5 days all they can charge you is the lease breaking fee and at least one months rent since you're already there.

    That's not necessarily true and will depend completely on the local laws.

    If you've signed the lease I can guarantee you there is something on there about breaking the lease early. Just saying.

    Yes, and more often it simply states "You are responsible for the rent for the duration of the signed lease", which could be a hell of a lot of money.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    It's only been five days?

    I really would try to either reconsider, or get out really fast. I know my lease says that if I break it, I'm responsible for the remaining months AND I need to pay back the 'discount' that I got. Basically I got my apt at supposedly 100 dollars less than the standard for the area or some BS like that.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Usagi wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    adytum wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    My sister broke her lease after about 7 months of her 15 month lease. She was charged $2900 to leave. You MIGHT be okay if you talk to them now about the things. After 5 days all they can charge you is the lease breaking fee and at least one months rent since you're already there.

    That's not necessarily true and will depend completely on the local laws.

    If you've signed the lease I can guarantee you there is something on there about breaking the lease early. Just saying.

    Yes, and more often it simply states "You are responsible for the rent for the duration of the signed lease", which could be a hell of a lot of money.

    But in most places they can only hold you liable until they find someone new. If they don't attempt to find a new person then they can't claim damages because they didn't attempt to mitigate them. Odds are the OP could find someone to take over his lease and be fine.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I'm going to try to talk to the roommate and escalate it with written complaints and documentation if I need too. I read that I can sue in small claims, him personally, if he violates the covenant of quiet enjoyment that is in the lease. Unfortunately, we all have individual leases, so not sure how that will play out. A lot of people around here aren't really familiar with their rights when signing a lease (i.e. even if there are outrageous demands on the landlord side, they are void and null if they violate local property law codes).

    My plan is to talk to the roommate. If that doesn't work, I document everything and begin submitting written complaints in registered letter format to the front desk. Then I go from there.

    It's sad because I actually enjoy this place, and the free summer rent is hard to beat.
    I was a bit hectic in my OP since I was typing that during the 5 hour reign of chaos that ensued in the house.

    My next question: how do I negotiate with a man-child of a roommate.
    It is so foreign to me that someone could behave this way, that I am kind of in shock.
    In the five days since he has been here, he has taken over the entire common area, brought in his non-rent paying girlfriend and a cat that pisses everywhere, has a party everynight with ten+ people, smokes inside, and plays music so loud that the entire apartment complex is screaming out the windows for him to be quiet--and even worse, he and his girlfriend were taunting the people telling him to STFU.

    Absolutely amazing.

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  • 3drage3drage Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    From my experience you are pretty much on the leash for the total amount of rent over the period of your lease. They can go after you for the full amount and might force you into bankruptcy. Some places will work a deal out with you if you can find a replacement. Leases are usually designed to protect the landlord, so you are not going to have much wiggle room in your contract, read it over carefully and determine your options.

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    My next question: how do I negotiate with a man-child of a roommate.
    It is so foreign to me that someone could behave this way, that I am kind of in shock.
    In the five days since he has been here, he has taken over the entire common area, brought in his non-rent paying girlfriend and a cat that pisses everywhere, has a party everynight with ten+ people, smokes inside, and plays music so loud that the entire apartment complex is screaming out the windows for him to be quiet--and even worse, he and his girlfriend were taunting the people telling him to STFU.

    Absolutely amazing.

    Sounds like a douche and you need to put an end to it fast. If he's loud, call the cops on him if you have too. You and your other roommates need to confront him at once. The GF leaves unless she pays rent. Get rid of the cat(most apartments have rules on pets and if you haven't disclosed it to the apartment folks it could get you in some serious trouble).

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  • Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    You might have some recourse if your lease does not include pets as well, while the apartment complex may be cool with them it is possible that your lease says nothing about pets, and that under that circumstance you were convinced you would not have to deal with any. (and you have a cat allergy!)

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  • Hey AshtrayHey Ashtray Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Check out if your lease has any stipulations about pet ownership or parties, many of mine have said no to both. Also to the smoking. If there's any way to deal with this guy through the landlord, that would be the easiest. Really though you need to get your other roomates, go into his room, and say you're not taking anymore of his lifestyle. It's super easy since everyone else is on your side, and the issue is black and white.

    Do this when the girlfriend isn't around, though. You don't want him to have any help.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Yeah, you're going to have to get your roommates to back you up, but you'll probably need to do most of the talking. I'm assuming the apartment is non-smoking, and he didn't mention the cat when you guys moved in?

    In any case, the girlfriend needs to move out ASAP, since she could get you all evicted.

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  • hectorsehectorse Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    YodaTuna wrote: »
    My next question: how do I negotiate with a man-child of a roommate.
    It is so foreign to me that someone could behave this way, that I am kind of in shock.
    In the five days since he has been here, he has taken over the entire common area, brought in his non-rent paying girlfriend and a cat that pisses everywhere, has a party everynight with ten+ people, smokes inside, and plays music so loud that the entire apartment complex is screaming out the windows for him to be quiet--and even worse, he and his girlfriend were taunting the people telling him to STFU.

    Absolutely amazing.

    Sounds like a douche and you need to put an end to it fast. If he's loud, call the cops on him if you have too. You and your other roommates need to confront him at once. The GF leaves unless she pays rent. Get rid of the cat(most apartments have rules on pets and if you haven't disclosed it to the apartment folks it could get you in some serious trouble).

    Call the cops when he is doing parties.
    Take pictures of the cat, the smoking and of his stuff on placed in the common area.
    Also, monitor her girlfriend activity, depends on the state, but usually, guests can't stay for more than either 5 consecutive nights or 3 nights a week for a month without being considered habitants. That is important because as soon as someone moves property into the house it's fairly easy to prove that they have taken residency there. That's why, as a landlord, I don't let ANYBODY move NOT EVEN A PIN into the house before all the diligences are done for, because it's considered as them taking residence.

    Talk to your roommate with all of the other roommates present.

    Take that evidence to your landlord and explain your situation. If he doesn't evict him, as he should, you can sue him.

    Each of you has an individual lease, so you wouldn't really lose anything if they evict him, in terms of you having to recoup the cost.

    I don't recommend moving out, because you chose this apartment because you liked it due to it's convenience, price and supposed standard of living. You are entitled to that

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