INeedNoSaltwith blood on my teethRegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
Actually, it doesn't - the framework of GR is Resistance = good, loyalists = evil - with shades of gray in between.
The Heroes of Primal Earth are always the right/good side, and they're helping bring down Tyrant.
Talk about the most boring way you could possibly look at Going Rogue's content.
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INeedNoSaltwith blood on my teethRegistered Userregular
Someone guide me through how I should use the serial key from the boxed GR with a invite back key from someone here.
I put in the invite back key and it's asking me to pay; but I don't want to pay because I have this free month.
But I think if I put in the GR serial into my account it won't let me do the invite back code.
can you tell it you're using a game time code as your payment option?
No, if you put the code in there it says it isn't allowed to be used as that kind of code.
Only semi-related; is the NCSoft store broked? It keeps declining my card for no apparent reason even though I just used it on their site for CoX and there's plenty of money on it.
Someone guide me through how I should use the serial key from the boxed GR with a invite back key from someone here.
I put in the invite back key and it's asking me to pay; but I don't want to pay because I have this free month.
But I think if I put in the GR serial into my account it won't let me do the invite back code.
can you tell it you're using a game time code as your payment option?
No, if you put the code in there it says it isn't allowed to be used as that kind of code.
Only semi-related; is the NCSoft store broked? It keeps declining my card for no apparent reason even though I just used it on their site for CoX and there's plenty of money on it.
basically, both the Loyalists and the Resistance have sorta good/evil sub-factions
There's a chain of contacts for the Loyalists that are like "Fuck yeah! Power and authority! Lick my boot, plebeian!"
and another that's like "I believe in Emperor Cole and I want to protect the people" (I am currently playing a dude like this)
For the Resistance, there's the Wardens (who want to free the people, but balk at outright terrorism tactics) and the Crusaders (who are anarchists and willing to do anything, including blowing up hospitals and shit)
so uh
yeah
being loyalist or resistance doesn't actually say whether you are good or evil or not
shit, on the arc i am on right now, i took out a corrupt PPD guy and it gave me the dialogue box whether to turn him in or just kill him.
so
the CoH forum remains retarded about everything
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INeedNoSaltwith blood on my teethRegistered Userregular
MMO forums are always retarded. Well offical game forums in general, for the simple reason that people think the devs are more likely to read their posts and do their bidding or something. Which is dumb because they hire community managers to do that, and they have no power whatsoever.
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Gear GirlMore class than a state universityRegistered Userregular
MMO forums are always retarded. Well offical game forums in general, for the simple reason that people think the devs are more likely to read their posts and do their bidding or something. Which is dumb because they hire community managers to do that, and they have no power whatsoever.
The CoX devs read and respond on the forums quite a bit from what I understand.
I don't think they'll take a lot of complaints about LOYALISTS ARE EVIL/RESISTANCE IS GOOD terribly seriously, though. I'm pretty sure they've got a good grasp on what they're doing with it.
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INeedNoSaltwith blood on my teethRegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
The person arguing that Loyalists are good/Resistance are evil are using the fact that heroes fight Tyrant "and heroes are always good in comic books" as her backbone argument.
i hope to christ we get some of these tools in Architect. being able to write dialogue trees and shit would be fucking rad.
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Gennenalyse RuebenThe Prettiest Boy is Ridiculously PrettyRegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
The most infuriating variation of this argument I ever saw involved three of the CoX official forums' most amazingly annoying posters: Venture, EvilGeko, and Golden Girl. Venture was the most reasonable of them, at least. EvilGeko called our entire planet evil for not proactively fighting evil everywhere. I'm not even kidding, he leapt into some real world crap with it.
Golden Girl was the most infuriating, though. Mostly as the vast majority of her replies (and there were over 200 of them) were extremely short and generally consisted of these six words (plus anything else necessary to form a readable sentence) linked together accusingly: Nazi, Stalin, Hitler, fascist, tyranny, freedom. Followed by a wink or raspberry emoticon. I can't get angry at somebody who has never read, or even read about, a comic since like the 50's after the bullshit that went down in that thread.
EDIT: Oh god, and her justification for why the Wardens were the real heroes, shiny and pure and not responsible for anything the Crusaders were involved with at all.
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EDIT: Oh god, and her justification for why the Wardens were the real heroes, shiny and pure and not responsible for anything the Crusaders were involved with at all.
loyalist:
the Wardens tried to have me assassinated so as to avoid outing one of their people. shiny and pure my ass.
edit: also golden girl spends a lot of time talking about comic books but i don't think she's ever read one before in her life
EDIT: Oh god, and her justification for why the Wardens were the real heroes, shiny and pure and not responsible for anything the Crusaders were involved with at all.
loyalist:
the Wardens tried to have me assassinated so as to avoid outing one of their people. shiny and pure my ass.
you know i was playing a really well-meaning heroic loyalist dude and i
decided to kill Cleopatra anyway. she might not be a hospital-bombing Crusader, but she still tried to snuff out a good guy like me just to cover her own ass. she could've bugged out and hid instead of trying to maintain her cover, but bitch decided my life wasn't more important than her cover.
i am pretty sure Golden Girl is also Lemon Lass (aka the worst person ever) on the Champions Online forum.
same posting styles, same character designs, even the same usage of annoying yellow text to make you pay attention to her
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Gennenalyse RuebenThe Prettiest Boy is Ridiculously PrettyRegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
Oops! No, I didn't mean Venture was the most reasonable person on that board. I meant out of the three I listed. He at least pretended to listen and had a reasonable, not-inflammatory thing or two to say in the thread I was referring to. Don't worry, I've hated 99% of everything I've seen from Venture. His little foot stamping escapade in the Market Merger thread, for example. God, that was hilarious.
INeedNoSalt: All Loyalists are evil Nazi tyrannical Fascist Stalin-Hitler clones, so they don't count.
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INeedNoSaltwith blood on my teethRegistered Userregular
you know this dude i am playing on this trial account (who is going to vanish on tuesday, anyway) is only level 8
and yet, i'm not finding myself going OH GOD I MISS SEWERS AND PLING
because i am enjoying the rad stories and the honest truth is the missions aren't hard, the zone is easy to navigate and fairly small, and i am enjoying myself
that's right
praetoria is making me enjoy the pre-20 game
miraculous
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Gennenalyse RuebenThe Prettiest Boy is Ridiculously PrettyRegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
Yeah, that's pretty much what her and EvilGeko were both saying in the earlier thread. Civilians are fine targets if you're fighting EVIL! If they aren't actively resisting EVIL! then they are EVIL! themselves. It's definitely the same mentality as the Crusader side of the Resistance, though.
MMO forums are always retarded. Well offical game forums in general, for the simple reason that people think the devs are more likely to read their posts and do their bidding or something. Which is dumb because they hire community managers to do that, and they have no power whatsoever.
The CoX devs read and respond on the forums quite a bit from what I understand.
They do, its the main reason I spent a lot of time on those forums. Castle in particular was/is really good at talking to the players.
Edit: Venture is basically an arrogant tool, Golden Girl is a post-whore, and mostly I like EvilGeko.
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also i see a thread on the official forums where some dude is trying to start a "boycott" of Praetoria on the grounds that it's new 1-20 content and if you are not starting a new character you don't get to play it.
i hate this person. this person is the reason MMORPGs never re-do their starting areas and just keep raising the level cap.
"waaaah waaaaah i don't wanna start an aaaaaalt"
hate those people
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INeedNoSaltwith blood on my teethRegistered Userregular
also i see a thread on the official forums where some dude is trying to start a "boycott" of Praetoria on the grounds that it's new 1-20 content and if you are not starting a new character you don't get to play it.
i hate this person. this person is the reason MMORPGs never re-do their starting areas and just keep raising the level cap.
"waaaah waaaaah i don't wanna start an aaaaaalt"
hate those people
then he can play the content for 20+ characters that Going Rogue included...
also i see a thread on the official forums where some dude is trying to start a "boycott" of Praetoria on the grounds that it's new 1-20 content and if you are not starting a new character you don't get to play it.
i hate this person. this person is the reason MMORPGs never re-do their starting areas and just keep raising the level cap.
"waaaah waaaaah i don't wanna start an aaaaaalt"
hate those people
LOTRO re-did their starting area. It was awesome.
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Gennenalyse RuebenThe Prettiest Boy is Ridiculously PrettyRegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
Power Loyalist is a load of fun, too. It's not really out and out evil jackbootery, it's more you're a "hero of the people" on the surface and a media-conscious, "mostly (or entirely) interested in your own personal power and influence" type on the inside. You do rescue people and perform "good deeds", and usually have the media contacted to take a look at what amazing things you've done. Some of them may or may not have been manufactured by you, also.
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Lord_AsmodeusgoeticSobriquet:Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
So, are capes and such like, group specific? Or am I crazy? I kind of wanted a cape or a cloak of some kind, but I can't find anything. Am I missing something?
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INeedNoSaltwith blood on my teethRegistered Userregular
So, are capes and such like, group specific? Or am I crazy? I kind of wanted a cape or a cloak of some kind, but I can't find anything. Am I missing something?
So, are capes and such like, group specific? Or am I crazy? I kind of wanted a cape or a cloak of some kind, but I can't find anything. Am I missing something?
gotta be level 20 and do a mission to unlock capes
some players have special things (like a veteran reward that grants shoulder-capes) that they can use at level 1
but for everyone else, gotta be 20+ and do a mission to earn it
wtf my veterans reward list just told me I am at 36 months even though i only have 11 total paid on my account.
THE SKINNY.
There was a bug with the veteran rewards system whereupon several people (myself included) were not getting the rewards they were actually due. So at 30 months, people would still be waiting on the 27 month reward, etc. To fix this, without paying someone to go through the entire subscriber database and fix it by hand, they did a big sweep of some kind. The end result is some people got rewards they hadn't actually gotten to, but rather than deal with the headache that revoking those would cause, they just let everyone keep them.
The big stinky caveat is that you won't get any new rewards until you actually deserve them. So you're looking at 28 months of playtime before you get another veteran reward.
And yes, there were people on the official forums who felt this was a slap in the face and said so. I remember for a little while where Bab's signature on the official boards was "I will be at HeroCon if you're interested in finding out what a real slap in the face feels like." God I love that man. He deserves so much better than the fanbase he's been given.
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Talk about the most boring way you could possibly look at Going Rogue's content.
can you tell it you're using a game time code as your payment option?
No, if you put the code in there it says it isn't allowed to be used as that kind of code.
Only semi-related; is the NCSoft store broked? It keeps declining my card for no apparent reason even though I just used it on their site for CoX and there's plenty of money on it.
Origin: Galedrid - Nintendo: Galedrid/3222-6858-1045
Blizzard: Galedrid#1367 - FFXIV: Galedrid Kingshand
Pretty lame.
Origin: Galedrid - Nintendo: Galedrid/3222-6858-1045
Blizzard: Galedrid#1367 - FFXIV: Galedrid Kingshand
i have rewards up to like 39 months despite only having paid for like 18 and having been active like 24
Origin: Galedrid - Nintendo: Galedrid/3222-6858-1045
Blizzard: Galedrid#1367 - FFXIV: Galedrid Kingshand
they just let it go. the bug's fixed now, but those who got free months towards their vet rewards get to keep them
Be angry with me
(all CoH forum cartels are bad for the game.)
All I know as a Loyalist;
Sooooo......
There's a chain of contacts for the Loyalists that are like "Fuck yeah! Power and authority! Lick my boot, plebeian!"
and another that's like "I believe in Emperor Cole and I want to protect the people" (I am currently playing a dude like this)
For the Resistance, there's the Wardens (who want to free the people, but balk at outright terrorism tactics) and the Crusaders (who are anarchists and willing to do anything, including blowing up hospitals and shit)
so uh
yeah
being loyalist or resistance doesn't actually say whether you are good or evil or not
shit, on the arc i am on right now, i took out a corrupt PPD guy and it gave me the dialogue box whether to turn him in or just kill him.
so
the CoH forum remains retarded about everything
yep
The CoX devs read and respond on the forums quite a bit from what I understand.
the praetorian content is top fucking notch
i hope to christ we get some of these tools in Architect. being able to write dialogue trees and shit would be fucking rad.
Golden Girl was the most infuriating, though. Mostly as the vast majority of her replies (and there were over 200 of them) were extremely short and generally consisted of these six words (plus anything else necessary to form a readable sentence) linked together accusingly: Nazi, Stalin, Hitler, fascist, tyranny, freedom. Followed by a wink or raspberry emoticon. I can't get angry at somebody who has never read, or even read about, a comic since like the 50's after the bullshit that went down in that thread.
EDIT: Oh god, and her justification for why the Wardens were the real heroes, shiny and pure and not responsible for anything the Crusaders were involved with at all.
fwiw
and Gennenalyse is 100% right about Golden Girl: every post is something that is not witty at all (but tries to be) followed by a winky.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
loyalist:
edit: also golden girl spends a lot of time talking about comic books but i don't think she's ever read one before in her life
you know i was playing a really well-meaning heroic loyalist dude and i
fuck that.
resistance scum.
same posting styles, same character designs, even the same usage of annoying yellow text to make you pay attention to her
INeedNoSalt: All Loyalists are evil Nazi tyrannical Fascist Stalin-Hitler clones, so they don't count.
She is presently making the argument that terrorism is okay as long as your targets are civilians living under a dictator so I mean
and yet, i'm not finding myself going OH GOD I MISS SEWERS AND PLING
because i am enjoying the rad stories and the honest truth is the missions aren't hard, the zone is easy to navigate and fairly small, and i am enjoying myself
that's right
praetoria is making me enjoy the pre-20 game
miraculous
They do, its the main reason I spent a lot of time on those forums. Castle in particular was/is really good at talking to the players.
Edit: Venture is basically an arrogant tool, Golden Girl is a post-whore, and mostly I like EvilGeko.
i am doin' responsible loyalist as well
although i have made some ungood decisions
i hate this person. this person is the reason MMORPGs never re-do their starting areas and just keep raising the level cap.
"waaaah waaaaah i don't wanna start an aaaaaalt"
hate those people
then he can play the content for 20+ characters that Going Rogue included...
LOTRO re-did their starting area. It was awesome.
be level 20 is the requirement for a cape
gotta be level 20 and do a mission to unlock capes
some players have special things (like a veteran reward that grants shoulder-capes) that they can use at level 1
but for everyone else, gotta be 20+ and do a mission to earn it
THE SKINNY.
There was a bug with the veteran rewards system whereupon several people (myself included) were not getting the rewards they were actually due. So at 30 months, people would still be waiting on the 27 month reward, etc. To fix this, without paying someone to go through the entire subscriber database and fix it by hand, they did a big sweep of some kind. The end result is some people got rewards they hadn't actually gotten to, but rather than deal with the headache that revoking those would cause, they just let everyone keep them.
The big stinky caveat is that you won't get any new rewards until you actually deserve them. So you're looking at 28 months of playtime before you get another veteran reward.
And yes, there were people on the official forums who felt this was a slap in the face and said so. I remember for a little while where Bab's signature on the official boards was "I will be at HeroCon if you're interested in finding out what a real slap in the face feels like." God I love that man. He deserves so much better than the fanbase he's been given.
My least favourite thing? Resistance slang.
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