The New, Mighty and Secretly Dark Avenging (and Defending) Thread!

Gank

There's a whole mess of book with the word "Avenger" on them at the moment, and this is the thread to talk about em. You got...

THE AVENGERS:




NEW AVENGERS:




SECRET AVENGERS:




And don't forget about the kids...


AVENGERS ACADEMY:




YOUNG AVENGERS:




and joining them


THE DEFENDERS:




Just picked up and finished "Avengers: Prime" and was shocked that it didn't suck. It's already started to delve into tony and steve animosity, plus there a few cool little bits like this...

Just looks peeved. Not enraged, just kind of "Uh man, really?". I think old-Cap is gonna be a pretty sweet Nick Fury, he's got some pretty bad ass moments to love up to as well, ala 'Nick Fury: The List'.

wirehead26

All we know about New Avengers so far is the first story arc will be magic related. Bendis hinted at a future magic story in New Avengers issue 54.

Beerbaby

Gank wrote: »

Just picked up and finished "Avengers: Prime" and was shocked that it didn't suck. It's already started to delve into tony and steve animosity, plus there a few cool little bits like this...

Just looks peeved. Not enraged, just kind of "Uh man, really?".

He did a really good `It's just chemicals, Buck' in New Avengers a few issues ago. Like he's patiently waiting out the little dramas that crop up rather than getting deeply involved.

PS. Steve is secretly John Locke.

Solar

Steve needs to stop wearing that black uniform. It's a little too secret police for my liking.

Gank

Solar wrote: »

Steve needs to stop wearing that black uniform. It's a little too secret police for my liking.

Ah crap, you just ruined it... That said, i have already grown to like his white star SA uniform.

Solar

His White Star uniform is indeed very cool, and it actually works without the shield, but an un-marked black uniformed worn by an aryan ubermensch gives a certain feel doesn't it.

CoJoeTheLawyer

Solar wrote: »

Steve needs to stop wearing that black uniform. It's a little too secret police for my liking.

I think it has a old-school The Prisoner vibe to it.

Love the scan though. That facial expression in the third panel is priceless.

Owenashi

A preview of Avengers Academy #1 is up at CBR if anyone's interested.

TexiKen

Maddy really doesn't look flat chested in that preview to sync up with her monologue. Or is this the comic book version of flat chested?

DarkWarrior

That preview looks terrible and the character is such a cliche.

And Norman Osborn took a personal interest in her? He has umpteen people on his payroll who can do what she can and more and better.

cardboard delusions

Anything smaller than C is flat in Marvel land Tex. Duh.

Solar

Comic book girls are flat chested if they can see their own feet.

Anyway, Norman Osborn must have developed the ability to cotnrol people's minds because whenever I can see him pretending to be the good guy it's so transparant it's not even funny. "I'm norman Osborn, would you like to be a Hero? I can make you be a Hero, because I can get what I want..."

DarkWarrior

Solar wrote: »

Comic book girls are flat chested if they can see their own feet.

Anyway, Norman Osborn must have developed the ability to cotnrol people's minds because whenever I can see him pretending to be the good guy it's so transparant it's not even funny. "I'm norman Osborn, would you like to be a Hero? I can make you be a Hero, because I can get what I want..."

*EVIL SMIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRK*

"You have such a cute smile"

"Why thankyou, and you have a womb just ripe for a Goblin baby"

"What?"

"Nothing...you don't know Peter Parker do you?"

Solar

DarkWarrior wrote: »

Solar wrote: »

Comic book girls are flat chested if they can see their own feet.

Anyway, Norman Osborn must have developed the ability to cotnrol people's minds because whenever I can see him pretending to be the good guy it's so transparant it's not even funny. "I'm norman Osborn, would you like to be a Hero? I can make you be a Hero, because I can get what I want..."

*EVIL SMIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRK*

"You have such a cute smile"

"Why thankyou, and you have a womb just ripe for a Goblin baby"

"What?"

"Nothing...you don't know Peter Parker do you?"

That's what I mean! Those evil little smiles, the veiled references towards having untimate power at his disposal, the oily way of speaking, it should all make alawm bells go off in anyone's head.

cardboard delusions

You have to think that some of these things are exaggerated for... shall we say less intelligent readers. Where as most people pickup on the subtext of any conversation, they literally have to draw out the evil for some readers. This might just be delving too far but, like when Loki is portrayed doing some trickery and we're all like 'Oh man, don't fall for it! It's so obvious' I think the character in context doesn't see this, but as a reader we must.

DarkWarrior

But you can have Norman being less obviously evil because the next page he's syringe raping her.

cardboard delusions

Yeah, but she kind of asked for it.

DarkWarrior

cardboard delusions wrote: »

Yeah, but she kind of asked for it.

When you're wearing full length nerd outfits like that and talking about turning into gases and being naked, I dont know what else she expected.

Solar

cardboard delusions wrote: »

You have to think that some of these things are exaggerated for... shall we say less intelligent readers. Where as most people pickup on the subtext of any conversation, they literally have to draw out the evil for some readers. This might just be delving too far but, like when Loki is portrayed doing some trickery and we're all like 'Oh man, don't fall for it! It's so obvious' I think the character in context doesn't see this, but as a reader we must.

Loki is the worst for this. In JMS' Thor when he was going around saying "Yes, if I was still all tricksy then I would have done this, but I'm not anymore so it clearly wasn't me..." And Baldur's all like "Oh, OK then," and the they find out that yeah, Loki did in fact pull that shit and are suprised.

Also, that shit about "I did this because I am the trickster God and must trick!" doesn't fly with me. Thor's the God of Thunder but he doesn't zap Asgard with lightning bolts uncontrollably all the time, he zaps giants and shit. Loki says that he organises the siege of Asgard because he needed something to do, well, why the hell couldn't he have used his mischief to actually benefit his people instead? I'll tell you why, because in actual fact he went after Asgard because he is the silliest of silly geese.

Munch

The Loki mini-series actually kind of addressed that. Basically, Loki's forever locked into this pattern of setting up mischief, and then failing. When he finally tries to repent and defy fate, Thor cracks his head open with Mjolnir.

Antimatter

cardboard delusions wrote: »

Anything smaller than C is flat in Greg Land, Tex. Duh.

The Lovely Bastard

all I can say about that preview is: not enough Pym

Munch

I like that Hank wasn't satisfied wearing a regular lab coat.

The Lovely Bastard

Regular lab coats don't have action pouches for science adventures.

Pym ain't gonna be caught unprepared

Munch

Secret Avengers #2 Preview, now with wicked energy shield.

The Lovely Bastard

whole lotta punching in that preview

whole lotta good things

Furu

So Avengers Prime was pretty great!

Surprisingly actiony for the first issue of a Bendis comic.

The Lovely Bastard

wait are we talking actiony actiony

or actiony for a bendis comic actiony

Furu

we're talking like five pages of Steve Rogers beating up a bar full of goblins

The Lovely Bastard

wait a minute

this is a bendis comic we are talking about

Furu

Yes! I know!

The Lovely Bastard

I uh

I might have to most definitely pick up Avengers Prime

TexiKen

But did he care about the goblins civil liberties?

The Lovely Bastard

texiken are you trying to make the goblins into black people?

are all black people goblins to you texiken?

does your intolerance know no bounds?

TexiKen

I'm an ironic hipster, so you tell me.

Goblin is the new black.

The Lovely Bastard

That's some straight up bullshit texiken

TexiKen

Of course you don't want goblins to have rights.

What are you, Tony Stark?

Zampanov

TexiKen wrote: »

Of course you don't want goblins to have rights.

What are you, Tony Stark?

Goblins have the right to stay pummelled.

Solar

Secret Avengers looks awesomesauce as usual. I knew Steve would get hold of some sort of shield quick-sharp.

BigDes

So, with the Thunderbolts and Fury's Secret Warriors I'm kind of left to wonder why the Secret Avengers are needed.

Not that I'm complaining, I love Black Ops superheroes, it's just a little weird.

Solar

T-Bolts are back to being a redemption based team, the Secret Warriors are involved in fighting all the various terrorists such as Leviathan, and the Secret Warriors can do everything else which needs a deft touch. Seriously there is enough space for a few espionage teams out there, no problems.