I'm getting it on the 360 no questions because I like just sitting back with a controller and playing and I'm a heathen who couldn't care less about mods.
I'm playing Oblivion now on the PC due to the steam sale last weekend and while I'm quite enjoying it, its so similar to FO3 that I keep feeling like I'd much rather be playing it on the 360.
I'm getting it on the 360 no questions because I like just sitting back with a controller and playing and I'm a heathen who couldn't care less about mods.
I'm playing Oblivion now on the PC due to the steam sale last weekend and while I'm quite enjoying it, its so similar to FO3 that I keep feeling like I'd much rather be playing it on the 360.
This is another reason I always struggle with this. There is just something about sitting on the couch, in front of my big TV, maxing, relaxing, shooting some Ghouls outside of the school.
I'm getting it on the 360 no questions because I like just sitting back with a controller and playing and I'm a heathen who couldn't care less about mods.
I'm playing Oblivion now on the PC due to the steam sale last weekend and while I'm quite enjoying it, its so similar to FO3 that I keep feeling like I'd much rather be playing it on the 360.
This is another reason I always struggle with this. There is just something about sitting on the couch, in front of my big TV, maxing, relaxing, shooting some Ghouls outside of the school.
I can do that with my PC
and get all the awesomeness that mods provide.
Buying a Bethesda game on console is just hurting yourself, its like buying half a game for full price.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
I don't have an HTPC and no funds to buy one, and my primary system is not coming out in the living room.
Well when half the game is still 200 hours of awesome some people don't really care. I used to be PC everything but now it's 360 everything because I just stick a disc in and go. The older I get the more I like simple. Hell I am just hoping I find the time to really finish vanilla Fallout 3 by the time Vegas hits. Every one is different and really there is no wrong platform to buy the game on. But then we have this conversation for every game that comes out, don't we?
Well when half the game is still 200 hours of awesome some people don't really care. I used to be PC everything but now it's 360 everything because I just stick a disc in and go. The older I get the more I like simple. Hell I am just hoping I find the time to really finish vanilla Fallout 3 by the time Vegas hits. Every one is different and really there is no wrong platform to buy the game on. But then we have this conversation for every game that comes out, don't we?
Yeah, then when you get into one of the thousand bugs the console version has, You suddenly wish you could install the unofficial patches.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
I beat Oblivion and FO3 on the console, and of those "thousands of bugs", not a single one ever got in my way, or cheapened the experience. So yah, if you want to nit pick at every tiny glitch you see, and MUST have an unofficial patch for it, I guess your argument is valid.
I logged over 100 hours in FO3 on the 360, and never once did one of those "thousands of bugs" stop me from doing my thing.
I've played enough Obsidian games to know that I enjoy the everloving hell out of Obsidian games without a single mod. I'm going into this for some awesome roleplaying, fun and interesting characters, and a plot that reacts to my actions, and I KNOW I'm gonna get that from this game without the need to download anything.
I beat Oblivion and FO3 on the console, and of those "thousands of bugs", not a single one ever got in my way, or cheapened the experience. So yah, if you want to nit pick at every tiny glitch you see, and MUST have an unofficial patch for it, I guess your argument is valid.
I logged over 100 hours in FO3 on the 360, and never once did one of those "thousands of bugs" stop me from doing my thing.
you dont have any problem with a well documented bug filled game so it all must be lies and fantasy?
Same Gnome. Off the top of my head I can't remember a single bug from either game. But I am obviously doing it wrong.
Of course hey I was prevented from playing Starcraft 2 this weekend because my wife managed to get a virus on our PC and being as I had just moved, my windows disc is packed away safely in a box god knows where. Want to know what system my wife has never crashed?
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
I beat Oblivion and FO3 on the console, and of those "thousands of bugs", not a single one ever got in my way, or cheapened the experience. So yah, if you want to nit pick at every tiny glitch you see, and MUST have an unofficial patch for it, I guess your argument is valid.
I logged over 100 hours in FO3 on the 360, and never once did one of those "thousands of bugs" stop me from doing my thing.
you dont have any problem with a well documented bug filled game so it all must be lies and fantasy?
Nope, I am well aware both FO3 and Oblivion had tons of glitches. My point was simply that, for most players, they don't get in the way. That doesn't invalidate that they may bother you, but after logging literally over 100 hours in FO3 for the 360, none of the glitches got in my way that bad. Did I notice some? Of course. Did they stop me from logging a hundred hours in to the game? Obviously not.
Same Gnome. Off the top of my head I can't remember a single bug from either game. But I am obviously doing it wrong.
Of course hey I was prevented from playing Starcraft 2 this weekend because my wife managed to get a virus on our PC and being as I had just moved, my windows disc is packed away safely in a box god knows where. Want to know what system my wife has never crashed?
This is precisely why my wife doesn't touch, and is not allowed to touch, my PC. It's like the one draconian 1950's style "husband controls wife" thing I do. My PC is off-fucking-limits. She goes through laptops like water anyway, so she can destroy her own disposable laptop of the month.
no ones ever going to convince each other in this argument, just let it go. im 113 hours into the GOTY edition on the ps3, you guys havent seen anything for bugs i promise you. but its still a great game, whatever platform you play it on you know. the same will probably be true for new vegas too. cant we all just get along?
I beat Oblivion and FO3 on the console, and of those "thousands of bugs", not a single one ever got in my way, or cheapened the experience. So yah, if you want to nit pick at every tiny glitch you see, and MUST have an unofficial patch for it, I guess your argument is valid.
I logged over 100 hours in FO3 on the 360, and never once did one of those "thousands of bugs" stop me from doing my thing.
you dont have any problem with a well documented bug filled game so it all must be lies and fantasy?
I ran into a handful of bugs in FO3 but nothing that wasn't either ignorable or a reload didn't fix.
It could be that the "thousands of bugs" is more ignorance and hyperbole than lies and fantasy.
It's funny that the vast majority of people who have bitched about bugs in the console versions FO threads here have been 1)PC players 2)PS3 GOTY players.
Oh, and the initial bugs with the wrong release of The Pitt, that was pretty bad.
But continuing to act like the console versions are broken bug ridden unplayable messes is both dishonest and stupid.
I beat Oblivion and FO3 on the console, and of those "thousands of bugs", not a single one ever got in my way, or cheapened the experience. So yah, if you want to nit pick at every tiny glitch you see, and MUST have an unofficial patch for it, I guess your argument is valid.
I logged over 100 hours in FO3 on the 360, and never once did one of those "thousands of bugs" stop me from doing my thing.
you dont have any problem with a well documented bug filled game so it all must be lies and fantasy?
Nope, I am well aware both FO3 and Oblivion had tons of glitches. My point was simply that, for most players, they don't get in the way. That doesn't invalidate that they may bother you, but after logging literally over 100 hours in FO3 for the 360, none of the glitches got in my way that bad. Did I notice some? Of course. Did they stop me from logging a hundred hours in to the game? Obviously not.
It does not invalidate the point that buying a console version of a bethesda game is risky at best, Since their games have a well documented history of requiring console commands and unofficial patches to fix many issues that can make the game unplayable.
you had a good run. Ok, thats fine. But its like playing Russian roulette. you might get lucky and win a few times, but eventually you are gonna come to regret your decisions.
Same Gnome. Off the top of my head I can't remember a single bug from either game. But I am obviously doing it wrong.
Of course hey I was prevented from playing Starcraft 2 this weekend because my wife managed to get a virus on our PC and being as I had just moved, my windows disc is packed away safely in a box god knows where. Want to know what system my wife has never crashed?
This is precisely why my wife doesn't touch, and is not allowed to touch, my PC. It's like the one draconian 1950's style "husband controls wife" thing I do. My PC is off-fucking-limits. She goes through laptops like water anyway, so she can destroy her own disposable laptop of the month.
Yeah I am probably going to get the wife an imac mini for xmas and then it should be smooth sailing.
What always kills me about these conversations is I have no problem with people enjoying the game on PC but a lot of people apparrently thinks we are silly geese for enjoying it on the 360. Play it on what you like.
Same Gnome. Off the top of my head I can't remember a single bug from either game. But I am obviously doing it wrong.
Of course hey I was prevented from playing Starcraft 2 this weekend because my wife managed to get a virus on our PC and being as I had just moved, my windows disc is packed away safely in a box god knows where. Want to know what system my wife has never crashed?
This is precisely why my wife doesn't touch, and is not allowed to touch, my PC. It's like the one draconian 1950's style "husband controls wife" thing I do. My PC is off-fucking-limits. She goes through laptops like water anyway, so she can destroy her own disposable laptop of the month.
Yeah I am probably going to get the wife an imac mini for xmas and then it should be smooth sailing.
What always kills me about these conversations is I have no problem with people enjoying the game on PC but a lot of people apparrently thinks we are silly geese for enjoying it on the 360. Play it on what you like.
Okay whatever, I'm done. ignore warnings and experience and wave it off as a superiority issue, then fuck it be my guest.
I'm curious how many hours you've put into the console versions of FO3 there Buttcleft, to make these claims.
120 hours on one character and 40 on another tells me you're full of it; and I'm not the only one who hasn't had these massive problems you keep campaigning on.
GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
It's really not worth arguing about. We're all gonna buy the version we're gonna buy. If Oblivion and FO3 have told me anything, I'll literally end up giving Bethesda my money twice, because I tend to buy and happily beat them on the 360, then get the PC versions when they hit a Steam sale just for modding purposes.
Honestly? I don't usually care about glitches and bugs. At most I just have to avoid them and reload the last save. They are annoying but I'm pretty hardened by playing every game ever released from Beth/Troika/Black Isle (Anyone remember Fallout 2's release state?)/Obsidian.
I just hate it when the bug leads to a crash or destroys your savestate (Of course the later isn't that bad since you still have others)
The problem with Fallout 3 and PS3 was that a shitload of people had crashes. Including two friends of mine who's PS3 frequently locked up.
The Xbox360 version and PC version weren't that bad though. So that's why many ps3 users want it different in new vegas.
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Honestly? I don't usually care about glitches and bugs. At most I just have to avoid them and reload the last save. They are annoying but I'm pretty hardened by playing every game ever released from Beth/Troika/Black Isle (Anyone remember Fallout 2's release state?)/Obsidian.
5 minute load times were the best bro. As was the savegame corrupting bug when you'd lose a button. And the one where your car's trunk would follow you around. That one was pretty cool.
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Sirialisof the Halite Throne.Registered Userregular
edited August 2010
I read that everybody in Fallout New Vegas is "killable" thats not what I hoped for, with all the odd kinks and shit in Fallout 3 that usually bit you in the ass, instead of feeling like "WOAH ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES"
such as the caravan dudes dropping dead for no reason, or a good part of Megaton dying from ... Falling off ledges or some shit ? I would prefer NPC's set as immortal by any means except the player character killing them.
I read that everybody in Fallout New Vegas is "killable" thats not what I hoped for, with all the odd kinks and shit in Fallout 3 that usually bit you in the ass, instead of feeling like "WOAH ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES"
such as the caravan dudes dropping dead for no reason, or a good part of Megaton dying from ... Falling off ledges or some shit ? I would prefer NPC's set as immortal by any means except the player character killing them.
Damn it. I didn't think of that. Nothing was more annoying than random NPC death and disappearance. God damned Uncle Leo fell through the world, and later, so did Fawkes.
I'm glad that I'll be able to shoot everyone in their face, though. I think they've said there is one being you won't be able to kill, and kids. I'm thinking the one being might be Mr. House himself.
I don't know if its possible, but I'd be completely on board with the "only PC can kill NPCs X through Y". Albino radscorpions, shitty spawns and worse pathfinding.
Edit: Oh, brilliant example of mixed up spawning happens to me at Raven Rock. Every time I play. After the place goes up in smoke, if you look skywards, you'll see three Enclave soldiers walking in the sky. You can shoot wildly in their direction, and they'll plummet to Earth upon death. They'll also being wearing armour and no helmet, but won't have the armour in their inventory.
They will always be there. They even respawn every three days, like regular NPCs.
Ninja Snarl PMy helmet is my burden.Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered Userregular
edited August 2010
I originally played FO3 on the 360 and never encountered anything more game-breaking than the game itself. System froze a few times, but that's hardly limited to FO3. Never tried any of the DLC on the 360, though, so I don't have any experience with any bugs those might have brought.
Anyway. More skills and traits is obviously a double thumbs-up, but I'm definitely pretty "bleh" about temporary skill boosts from magazines. I just really don't like temporary item buffs since it means digging through your inventory for the crap. I've probably used drugs maybe a half-dozen times throughout all three games because it's just not worth my time. Also glad to see that reputation matters much more than karma; in a post-apocalyptic, people really are going to care less about whether you kick puppies in general and more about whether you just kick enemy puppies.
I can pretty much guarantee there won't be any kids in the game, though, due to lame Euro standards and the devs claiming you can kill everybody. Aside from a certain undersized town I'm not exactly clamoring for the ability to murder children, but it's still stupid that you can have movies with dead kids in them but not games with dead kids. Double standards are so awesome.
I'm getting it on the 360 no questions because I like just sitting back with a controller and playing and I'm a heathen who couldn't care less about mods.
I'm playing Oblivion now on the PC due to the steam sale last weekend and while I'm quite enjoying it, its so similar to FO3 that I keep feeling like I'd much rather be playing it on the 360.
This is another reason I always struggle with this. There is just something about sitting on the couch, in front of my big TV, maxing, relaxing, shooting some Ghouls outside of the school.
When a couple of ghouls, they were up to no good. Started making trouble in my neighbourhood. I got in one gunfight and my Dad got scared, he said "You're moving with the Overseer in Vault 101"
I whistled for a Brahmin and when it came near, the rightmost said "Meh" and it had its tail in the air. If anything I could say this Brahmin was dumb but I thought "Nah forget it, yo holmes, to 101"
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You sure? Because the box art clearly says "Games for Windows Live" on it.
(And it must be FOSE that's killing my achievements for FO3 then).
I'm playing Oblivion now on the PC due to the steam sale last weekend and while I'm quite enjoying it, its so similar to FO3 that I keep feeling like I'd much rather be playing it on the 360.
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Pretty sure
Must be old box art
Though personally I'd never let something like achievements prevent me from having a better game experience. :P
This is another reason I always struggle with this. There is just something about sitting on the couch, in front of my big TV, maxing, relaxing, shooting some Ghouls outside of the school.
Sure you're not mistaking it for the "Games For Windows" on it? Missing the live, which is all the difference.
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I can do that with my PC
and get all the awesomeness that mods provide.
Buying a Bethesda game on console is just hurting yourself, its like buying half a game for full price.
Yeah, then when you get into one of the thousand bugs the console version has, You suddenly wish you could install the unofficial patches.
I logged over 100 hours in FO3 on the 360, and never once did one of those "thousands of bugs" stop me from doing my thing.
you dont have any problem with a well documented bug filled game so it all must be lies and fantasy?
Of course hey I was prevented from playing Starcraft 2 this weekend because my wife managed to get a virus on our PC and being as I had just moved, my windows disc is packed away safely in a box god knows where. Want to know what system my wife has never crashed?
Nope, I am well aware both FO3 and Oblivion had tons of glitches. My point was simply that, for most players, they don't get in the way. That doesn't invalidate that they may bother you, but after logging literally over 100 hours in FO3 for the 360, none of the glitches got in my way that bad. Did I notice some? Of course. Did they stop me from logging a hundred hours in to the game? Obviously not.
This is precisely why my wife doesn't touch, and is not allowed to touch, my PC. It's like the one draconian 1950's style "husband controls wife" thing I do. My PC is off-fucking-limits. She goes through laptops like water anyway, so she can destroy her own disposable laptop of the month.
I ran into a handful of bugs in FO3 but nothing that wasn't either ignorable or a reload didn't fix.
It could be that the "thousands of bugs" is more ignorance and hyperbole than lies and fantasy.
It's funny that the vast majority of people who have bitched about bugs in the console versions FO threads here have been 1)PC players 2)PS3 GOTY players.
Oh, and the initial bugs with the wrong release of The Pitt, that was pretty bad.
But continuing to act like the console versions are broken bug ridden unplayable messes is both dishonest and stupid.
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It does not invalidate the point that buying a console version of a bethesda game is risky at best, Since their games have a well documented history of requiring console commands and unofficial patches to fix many issues that can make the game unplayable.
you had a good run. Ok, thats fine. But its like playing Russian roulette. you might get lucky and win a few times, but eventually you are gonna come to regret your decisions.
Yeah I am probably going to get the wife an imac mini for xmas and then it should be smooth sailing.
What always kills me about these conversations is I have no problem with people enjoying the game on PC but a lot of people apparrently thinks we are silly geese for enjoying it on the 360. Play it on what you like.
Okay whatever, I'm done. ignore warnings and experience and wave it off as a superiority issue, then fuck it be my guest.
120 hours on one character and 40 on another tells me you're full of it; and I'm not the only one who hasn't had these massive problems you keep campaigning on.
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I just hate it when the bug leads to a crash or destroys your savestate (Of course the later isn't that bad since you still have others)
The problem with Fallout 3 and PS3 was that a shitload of people had crashes. Including two friends of mine who's PS3 frequently locked up.
The Xbox360 version and PC version weren't that bad though. So that's why many ps3 users want it different in new vegas.
5 minute load times were the best bro. As was the savegame corrupting bug when you'd lose a button. And the one where your car's trunk would follow you around. That one was pretty cool.
such as the caravan dudes dropping dead for no reason, or a good part of Megaton dying from ... Falling off ledges or some shit ? I would prefer NPC's set as immortal by any means except the player character killing them.
Damn it. I didn't think of that. Nothing was more annoying than random NPC death and disappearance. God damned Uncle Leo fell through the world, and later, so did Fawkes.
I'm glad that I'll be able to shoot everyone in their face, though. I think they've said there is one being you won't be able to kill, and kids. I'm thinking the one being might be Mr. House himself.
I don't know if its possible, but I'd be completely on board with the "only PC can kill NPCs X through Y". Albino radscorpions, shitty spawns and worse pathfinding.
Edit: Oh, brilliant example of mixed up spawning happens to me at Raven Rock. Every time I play. After the place goes up in smoke, if you look skywards, you'll see three Enclave soldiers walking in the sky. You can shoot wildly in their direction, and they'll plummet to Earth upon death. They'll also being wearing armour and no helmet, but won't have the armour in their inventory.
They will always be there. They even respawn every three days, like regular NPCs.
Animations look improved from Fallout 3, so rejoice. Somewhat,..... It's still not perfect but hey!
http://g4tv.com/videos/48105/Fallout-New-Vegas-Senior-Designer-Interview/?quality=hd
Real random encounters? Hell yes
Anyway. More skills and traits is obviously a double thumbs-up, but I'm definitely pretty "bleh" about temporary skill boosts from magazines. I just really don't like temporary item buffs since it means digging through your inventory for the crap. I've probably used drugs maybe a half-dozen times throughout all three games because it's just not worth my time. Also glad to see that reputation matters much more than karma; in a post-apocalyptic, people really are going to care less about whether you kick puppies in general and more about whether you just kick enemy puppies.
I can pretty much guarantee there won't be any kids in the game, though, due to lame Euro standards and the devs claiming you can kill everybody. Aside from a certain undersized town I'm not exactly clamoring for the ability to murder children, but it's still stupid that you can have movies with dead kids in them but not games with dead kids. Double standards are so awesome.
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I whistled for a Brahmin and when it came near, the rightmost said "Meh" and it had its tail in the air. If anything I could say this Brahmin was dumb but I thought "Nah forget it, yo holmes, to 101"