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Ladies talking about lady stuff [Vaginas]
Lieberkuhn
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The circumcision thread sure moved fast!
It makes me wonder: does the same thing happen when girls start talking about vagina? Are we proud of our pussy and willing to argue endlessly just for the sake of getting to mention our twats, or are we ashamed of our down-there parts and too hesistant to discuss them openly?
Discuss!
You get a bunch of dudes in one room and start talking about dick and the conversation-will-never-stop.
It makes me wonder: does the same thing happen when girls start talking about vagina? Are we proud of our pussy and willing to argue endlessly just for the sake of getting to mention our twats, or are we ashamed of our down-there parts and too hesistant to discuss them openly?
Discuss!
While you eat, let's have a conversation about the nature of consent.
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Man, the circumcision thread was on the second page by now.
sample size might be too small to draw statistically significant conclusions
On the black screen
Give it some time; it takes longer for women to come...to threads.
Perhaps!
But quite a few ladies joined in on the circumcision discussion, and I never said dudes weren't allowed to post in here! I was expecting much more enthusiasm from the guys tbh
I still like putting my penis in them, though. =(
That's true, but there was also an issue. You need to find some practice with some ethical problem and some cultural momentum and make them fight it out. Unfortunately we don't really have anything like that.
So uh. Discuss uterine chunks or something?
We could argue about female circumcision.
Cutting off a woman's clitorus with a broken Coke bottle: Discuss.
Edit: Actually, I was recently talking to a girl at a bar who is in women's studies. She was talking about how it was difficult, given cultural norms, to argue that female circumcision is actually problematic since, within some cultures, it is actually more problematic for the women to not be circumcised as that would be a stigma and they would be cast out. So if one culture thinks female circumcision fine while another things it problematic, how do we resolve the tension?
My reply was to state that we can tell other cultures they are wrong, because the other culture is wrong.
I wonder if people get it and then ask their partners about it later.
Like, "Do I have pretty labia?"
Or like, a guy goes to the bar and tells all his friends "Dude, that chick last night? She had pornstar labia."
And all the dudes are like "Whoa, high five!"
You have mutilated the spelling of clitoris. I hope that this makes hygiene easier.
yea or nay?
Meh, the issue I was hinting at was that people just don't seem to like vaginas as much as they love dicks. Cocks are seen as magnificant symbols of power, whereas vaginas are seen as shameful and gross. In a forum mostly made up of heterosexual dudes, there is surprisingly little enthusiasm for vaginas, which Solomaxwell6 summed up quite well:
=( indeed, Solomax
which is kind of a lot
You're a philosophy type. You'll find a new one.
Well, I agree with your main point that "PENIS IS AWESOME! VAGINA IS GROSS AND SMELLS FISHY!" is sadly a common view, but I don't think comparing it to the circumcision thread is really good evidence. That thread ended up being mostly about medical ethics and consent.
Though I guess if we had a thread about infant ear piercing, it wouldn't last nearly as long unless circumcision was brought in as an analogue. So I don't know, perhaps it really was entirely based upon penises being awesome.
Still, I can't help but think that if we had a female circumcision thread (along with someone to argue that it was beneficial and should be done at birth) that it would go on just as long.
I find that periods and cramps get a lot more airplay amongst my female friends than vaginas. It's also something more concrete to compare, as even if a bunch of women are walking around naked, the vulva hides most everything unless you have the disturbing habit of sitting with your legs spread and your heels elevated (which nobody I know does).
Labiaplasty makes me
I am glad! But I am not into men, so I am not sure if it counts.
I think you're right, that no one talks about vaginas specifically (or vulvas and so on), and I think that that's a sign of trouble (well, not in and of itself, but when penis is awesome and vagina is shameful, that's an issue). There is of course the confounding factor of female anatomy being primarily internal, so there's not so much to talk about.
Labiaplasty is.. yeah. Along with breast enhancement, it's one of those things that makes me shake my head. Plastic surgery in general is built on insecurities and impossible to meet goals, but it's a pretty good indicator that society has some sexist ideas entrenched in it. I do not have statistics, sadly, but I don't think there are many guys that'd get any surgery down there, or any surgery in general to accentuate sexual characteristics.
In fact, now that I think about it, our culture is so focused on women that I'm not even sure what a sexual characteristic on a guy is. Big muscles, I guess? It's pretty one-sided.
Hey, hey, hey.
Ignoring the grievous insult of misspelling my name, I don't act particularly differently towards vaginas than other guys do. I'm perfectly willing to do whatever my partner requests. Tend to be a little hesitant towards eating out, but that's about it. The fact that I think vaginas are ugly has absolutely nothing to do with my sexual prowess.
The fact that labiaplasty is even a thing speaks volumes about how vulvas are viewed by society. Also the fact that vulvas are frequently referred to as "vaginas", when in fact the vagina is simply the tube. It's like we're supposed to have a simple hole with no other decorations, and the fact that what we actually have is a pretty complex set of external genitalia surrounding our vaginas makes people... uncomfortable? Disgusted? I'm not sure. But it's not seen as a good thing.
I think this shame in our genitals is also why women don't like to talk about them much. Although periods obviously get a lot of airtime because, you know. They suck balls.
lol
I'm sorry to tell you this but your sexual prowess is kind of related to your eagerness to eat pussy. Your partner will not feel good about herself if she senses your hesitance to lap up a part of her body you're supposed to be eager about.
I think the decorations are pretty damn great. The problem is that, for some reason, women think it odd for a guy to like that stuff.
I have a 20 year old (girl) friend who, when we were discussing sexual anatomy (I don't remember why we were discussing this) responded to "Err, do you know what a clitoris is?" with "no. Wait, is it that thing the blood comes out of?"
That is a sign of a pretty big problem, to me.
I'll admit to not being in love with my vagina. I'm not a fan of penetration (outside of piv sex), so it doesn't do much for me except bleed, and since I have excruciating cramps I generally dread anything coming out of there. I'm wary of my lack of enthusiasm being seen as (or being influenced by) subtle shaming brought on by cultural pressure, but I'm not sure how to develop a vagina-positive outlook given the circumstances.
That said, the vagina is fucking amazing. The fact that this tiny little elastic tube, which can clench around a single digit with ease, can expand to the size of a 10lb. human being and then retract again with no difficulty? Yeah, I'll see your free-standing erectile structure and raise you ten billion factors of amazing.
I lap it up
with my penis
Mostly this, yes.
The problem is that, again, sometimes that eagerness freaks a girl out.
In my experience if you tell a girl that you would go down on her while she's menstrating, she's probably going to freak the fuck out.
Sorry about the extra 1, dude.
And yeah, I wasn't saying anything about your prowess. I just don't think anyone should be in a situation of having sex with someone who thinks their body part is inherently disgusting, but, hey, works for getting you off!
you've told a girl this?
are you a vampire?
Probably because there are guys like me that simply don't find it aesthetically pleasing...
Man, the cervix is crazy as fuck. It's normally got tiny (I think microscopic) holes.
Then, BAM! Baby head!
See, we have this perfectly normal bodily function...and to think it perfectly normal and not a reason to not go down on a girl is weird.
But it's normal and fine to think that something which is normal and fine is weird.
The least I can do is give it a coat or two to thank them for not making it taste funky.
UGH