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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I don't even mind that, if the artist intended it to be referring to his stuff.

    Its not so much referring to his stuff as the artist going "Oh, so THAT's what everything means."

    Its creating a meaning that doesn't actually exist in the real world but some guy says is there so the author goes and writes about it because "Well he said it exists!"

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • ParadiseParadise Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    I don't even mind that, if the artist intended it to be referring to his stuff.

    Its not so much referring to his stuff as the artist going "Oh, so THAT's what everything means."

    Its creating a meaning that doesn't actually exist in the real world but some guy says is there so the author goes and writes about it because "Well he said it exists!"

    I got sick of the art world quick. Especially conceptual art.

    In New York, Florida, and North Carolina where I used to observe art people, most of them held onto the same air of pseudo-intellectual (often financially-driven) pretentiousness.

    Back when I first started dealing with conceptual art, I couldn't understand what the Stuckists' problem was. But now I can see that the biggest bullshitters are often the most well-known, successful conceptual artists. And sure, there are some conceptual artists with truly important, educated, and well thought-out things to say; but those few are dragged down by so many charlatans.

    What a pile of garbage.

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited June 2010
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    I don't even mind that, if the artist intended it to be referring to his stuff.

    Its not so much referring to his stuff as the artist going "Oh, so THAT's what everything means."

    Its creating a meaning that doesn't actually exist in the real world but some guy says is there so the author goes and writes about it because "Well he said it exists!"

    So to put in SAT answer format:

    Freud is to pretentious idiots as The Da Vinci Code is to regular idiots.

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited June 2010
    Paradise wrote: »
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    I don't even mind that, if the artist intended it to be referring to his stuff.

    Its not so much referring to his stuff as the artist going "Oh, so THAT's what everything means."

    Its creating a meaning that doesn't actually exist in the real world but some guy says is there so the author goes and writes about it because "Well he said it exists!"

    I got sick of the art world quick. Especially conceptual art.

    In New York, Florida, and North Carolina where I used to observe art people, most of them held onto the same air of pseudo-intellectual (often financially-driven) pretentiousness.

    Back when I first started dealing with conceptual art, I couldn't understand what the Stuckists' problem was. But now I can see that the biggest bullshitters are often the most well-known, successful conceptual artists. And sure, there are some conceptual artists with truly important, educated, and well thought-out things to say; but those few are dragged down by so many charlatans.

    What a pile of garbage.

    Shhh, if anyone hears you, this thread is going to turn into another angry and futile "What is Art?" debate again!

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    WHAT IS ART

    I NEED A WORD BANK

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  • VeritasVeritas Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Someday I'm going to create an art show with nothing but large prints of lol cats.

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Someday I'm going to create an art show with nothing but stolen Van Gogh work

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  • earthwormadamearthwormadam ancient crust Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Oh man, thank you AMC for apparently doing The Walking Dead great justice.

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  • VeritasVeritas Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Is the art part the Van Gogh part, or the stolen part?

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Music threads are like crack to me.

    I see them and I can't walk away until I post.

    "Best album closers" http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=21797545&postcount=94

    fffff.

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • FlayFlay Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    So hey, this is interesting (E3/Valve related):
    mailstorm_large.jpg

    fhd9xsji.png

    The three I can see being a coincidence, but I seriously doubt the lamba symbol is. Or it could just be Valve messing with us.

    Damnit why do I have to get my hopes up nggrrh...

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    That's been around for quite some time.




    God I hope it's not a fluke.

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited June 2010
    I'm not sure I want Half-Life 3 to be a Male Storm, which seems to be the implication here.

    Though maybe this explains why Gordon never reacts to Alyx's not-very-subtle advances.

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  • FlayFlay Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I'm not sure I want Half-Life 3 to be a Male Storm, which seems to be the implication here.

    Though maybe this explains why Gordon never reacts to Alyx's not-very-subtle advances.

    And why Saxton Hale's name is an anagram of hot anal sex. :winky:

    Slash fiction writers rejoice!

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited June 2010
    I guess with the first person perspective, I could just set the camera to face forward and turn the sound off so it just looks like Gordon's crouched and bobbing back and forth for a couple minutes during the cutscenes.

    I just hope nobody walks in and asks why the HUD keeps saying I'm getting damage from behind. D:

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Flay wrote: »
    I'm not sure I want Half-Life 3 to be a Male Storm, which seems to be the implication here.

    Though maybe this explains why Gordon never reacts to Alyx's not-very-subtle advances.

    And why Saxton Hale's name is an anagram of hot anal sex. :winky:

    What the...


    HOLY SHIT

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • MolybdenumMolybdenum Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    Flay wrote: »
    I'm not sure I want Half-Life 3 to be a Male Storm, which seems to be the implication here.

    Though maybe this explains why Gordon never reacts to Alyx's not-very-subtle advances.

    And why Saxton Hale's name is an anagram of hot anal sex. :winky:

    What the...


    HOLY SHIT

    D:D:

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Hey guys. I'm talking to a friend about the average amount of money a comic artist (say Marvel or DC) can expect to earn per page for pencils.

    Not like Jim Lee, but Salvador Larocca maybe?

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Do they get paid per page or per issue?

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    All the stuff I'm reading says per page. The artists guild handbook says $55-$200. Some people in the internets are saying Marvel starts pencil artists at $100/page.

    The debate is basically me trying to convince my friend that artists can in fact do art full time.

    Last night we were debating whether or not conflict is necessary element of storytelling. We don't have very productive discussions.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    was he yay or nay on conflict?


    also... 100 per page doesn't sound like that much... are marvels biweekly? or do most artists do multiple series?

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    He was nay. He says conflict just creates stress on the audience. I'm...pretty sure he's mildly retarded or something. I really should know better. We had just finished watching "The cube" or something and he was talking about "I don't see why they need to kill people in movies. That just stresses people out."

    And I would imagine that most artists probably have side projects, other books, their own commission work, etc going on at any given time.

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited June 2010
    Your friend is an idiot and my mental image of him is of a stoner wearing a dirty tshirt and pajama pants while lounging on a beanbag chair.

    Name me one story that contains no conflict whatsoever that has found an audience.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Your friend is an idiot and my mental image of him is of a stoner wearing a dirty tshirt and pajama pants while lounging on a beanbag chair.

    Name me one story that contains no conflict whatsoever that has found an audience.

    Your description is spot on, and I said the same thing. I even challenged him to tell me any story, and I could point out the conflict in it.

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  • ParadiseParadise Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Your friend is an idiot and my mental image of him is of a stoner wearing a dirty tshirt and pajama pants while lounging on a beanbag chair.

    Name me one story that contains no conflict whatsoever that has found an audience.

    War and Peace
    ...but ignore the war part.

    edit: also the Teletubbies

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Your friend is an idiot and my mental image of him is of a stoner wearing a dirty tshirt and pajama pants while lounging on a beanbag chair.

    Name me one story that contains no conflict whatsoever that has found an audience.

    Kiki's delievery service?


    (note I haven't watched the movie)

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    Your friend is an idiot and my mental image of him is of a stoner wearing a dirty tshirt and pajama pants while lounging on a beanbag chair.

    Name me one story that contains no conflict whatsoever that has found an audience.

    Kiki's delievery service?


    (note I haven't watched the movie)

    She loses her power halfway through the movie, can't figure out why for a good while.

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  • ParadiseParadise Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    Your friend is an idiot and my mental image of him is of a stoner wearing a dirty tshirt and pajama pants while lounging on a beanbag chair.

    Name me one story that contains no conflict whatsoever that has found an audience.

    Kiki's delievery service?


    (note I haven't watched the movie)

    Kiki faces heavy internal conflict, as well as pressure to adapt to the world around her. BOOM

    edit: The closest real answer I can think of is My Neighbor Totoro. There was no antagonist, except for the mother's illness.

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  • bombardierbombardier Moderator mod
    edited June 2010
    Yeah My Neighbor Totoro is great because there are really no bad people. Parents are encouraging and aren't seen as oppressing the children's imaginations.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Paradise wrote: »
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    Your friend is an idiot and my mental image of him is of a stoner wearing a dirty tshirt and pajama pants while lounging on a beanbag chair.

    Name me one story that contains no conflict whatsoever that has found an audience.

    Kiki's delievery service?


    (note I haven't watched the movie)

    Kiki faces heavy internal conflict, as well as pressure to adapt to the world around her. BOOM

    edit: The closest real answer I can think of is My Neighbor Totoro. There was no antagonist, except for the mother's illness.

    AH that's the one i was thinking off.

    All those movies by that director that i haven't seen blur together.

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    bombardier wrote: »
    Yeah My Neighbor Totoro is great because there are really no bad people. Parents are encouraging and aren't seen as oppressing the children's imaginations.

    It's basically the way the world should be. Which is why it was paired with Grave of the Fireflies in initial release in Japan.

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited June 2010
    Tam wrote: »
    Grave of the Fireflies

    I really wish Netflix had been around back when I saw it, because then I could have just rented it instead of buying it.

    Not because it's not a great movie, but holy shit I don't think I could bring myself to watch it ever again, it's so sad.

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    And based on a man's real experiences

    It's the most heart-rending movie I've ever seen

    edit: to epic trailer music fans- Two Steps From Hell are making quality product

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  • ProspicienceProspicience The Raven King DenvemoloradoRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Those trailer scores are pretty darn incredible. I think I'm going to start playing wrath of the sea everytime I walk into a room now.

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  • FugitiveFugitive Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    DDV every time you mention a story involving one of your friends they are trying to commit suicide, or going to jail, or sitting in a car staring into space for hours, or just saying really stupid shit constantly

    I am baffled that you haven't gone nuts and shot up a mall because your family/social circle is 100% composed of numbnuts

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Every story has conflict. Conflict moves a story forward... it doesn't have to be an obvious physical encounter, it can be anything from an internal struggle to a conflict with the elements.

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  • MaydayMayday Cutting edge goblin tech Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Marie Curie's story is a conflict with the elements.

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    What would Terminator be a conflict with? Machine or society?

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  • MetalbourneMetalbourne Inside a cluster b personalityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Hey Tam get on AIM

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  • Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited June 2010
    What would Terminator be a conflict with? Machine or society?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_%28narrative%29#Character_vs._Machine.2FTechnology

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