Nothing really. Besides the obvious idiot human being. And there's really wrong with a media outlet not knowing the difference between video games. That's pretty normal, they're ignorant.
Worst TotP.
Nothing wrong with the fact that the 2nd picture of the article is from WAR, a game they're not talking about, and they're citing the picture as copyrighted by the smallworld game? I mean it was a pretty simple puzzle but nevermind :P
GW dropped the hammer on that article and they took the picture out quickly. Days Of Wonder (Maker of Small World) is considering suing the paper because they were supposed to be writing about Small Worlds.
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So I got the 90 melee power lotd cloak + ring, a 63 dps, ridiculous stats gun from a purple city bag and my second piece of conq so I can stack the strength bonus of conq/annih all within a few hours today.
My listed damage on my bread and butter attack skill went from 520 this morning to 608 at lunchtime. I started getting the ridiculous crits we used to do to me.
I ended up rolling with another WH who is much better geared I used to talk to a lot and I left the party open. A lil Iron breaker jumped in and ran around with us, guarding one of us and generally being an excellent tank in every way. Eventually the other WH had to log and I end up in praag with this guy. I find out that he can't speak english very well via the simple expedient of his first sentence in party chat being "I CANT SPEAK ENGLISH GOOD"
Nevertheless, he was such an awesome IB and knew lots of good places to catch people streaming through praag in ones and twos on their way to the various places. He would lead me around with commands such as "COME" "RISK" (meaning dangerous area) "GO BACK" "HERE" and I followed him like a little puppy because we were taking on groups of 5 together and winning. And he obviously knew the zones like the back of his hand, so I would just follow him behind the little doorways and places where you can't be seen while we waited for people to pass.
It was the most enjoyable duo I've ever had. I pulled in easily three bubbles of 42 before the AAO ran out of the zone.
Fucking. Awesome. Tank.
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In other news, I have little desire to be leaving t3.
My 31 blorc is such a beast I'm not looking forward to the huge grind before he'll become competitive again.
If you want to grind though T4 just get the focus'd block and go to LOTD, that skill is banana's
Thanks for the tip about that, I've been grinding the drake nest whenever I can.
In other news, yay for another double renown weekend! Time to work on catching my rr up again
I think he meant doing champion runs as a tank.
Yeah, i figured champ runs were the usual method, but there's never any groups looking for a tank destro side, so I gave up trying to get in one. Considering I can pull the whole drake nest (10-15'ish?) and burn them down in ~2 minutes, I'm not complaining.
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In other news, I have little desire to be leaving t3.
My 31 blorc is such a beast I'm not looking forward to the huge grind before he'll become competitive again.
If you want to grind though T4 just get the focus'd block and go to LOTD, that skill is banana's
Thanks for the tip about that, I've been grinding the drake nest whenever I can.
In other news, yay for another double renown weekend! Time to work on catching my rr up again
I think he meant doing champion runs as a tank.
Yeah, i figured champ runs were the usual method, but there's never any groups looking for a tank destro side, so I gave up trying to get in one. Considering I can pull the whole drake nest (10-15'ish?) and burn them down in ~2 minutes, I'm not complaining.
Yeah that is pretty nice tank wise.
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Pretty much any area with packed mobs and Cant Hit Me focus'd block, ap on warshout trigger, and anything that can heal on being hit. You'll never run out of ap if you run the stat steal warshout, and you'll be damn near invincible other wise with 80-90% block rate. I can tank the full Quay of Seftu first stage at once. Pretty crazy, does not do well in pvp, unfortunately.
Woohoo, some solid grinding over the weekend and an insta-level scroll later, my blorc is finally 40. Now comes the gear grind, heh. At least I don't have the giant sub-40 flag over my head anymore :P
Now I'm kind of torn on what to raise next as an alt. I like the sheer face-melting damage of WE's, but having a zealot seems to be something just "good to have." I'm not to sure about spamming flash of chaos for 40 levels though.
God, everytime I get to 40 I want to roll another character because the progression just plateaus like crazy. Not only do the renown ranks take forever to rank up by rr50 (I can't imagine how slow it gets around 70), but every 10 rr you have to get an entirely new set of gear to stay competitive.
I kind of wish there was another tier for rr60-80 players so they wouldn't just gangbang the lower rr people.
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Woohoo, some solid grinding over the weekend and an insta-level scroll later, my blorc is finally 40. Now comes the gear grind, heh. At least I don't have the giant sub-40 flag over my head anymore :P
Now I'm kind of torn on what to raise next as an alt. I like the sheer face-melting damage of WE's, but having a zealot seems to be something just "good to have." I'm not to sure about spamming flash of chaos for 40 levels though.
Play something you will like. If you find a healer you like playing, then play it. Don't play something in order to "do the right thing".
You'll most likely start to hate playing it and/or not play it properly.
Personally, even if there are no healers, I'd still prefer someone playing a class they love and hence naturally inclined to work their ass off to get better at than someone playing a healer they hate hitting the same button wishing they'd rolled something else and consequently playing like shit.
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Yeah, I'll probably just stick with the blorc since he's getting much more palatable as I work on gear. Plus any other character I get fresh into t4 will still have the same problems. I lucked out with a purple city bag for shield, and am getting closer to the lotd cloak too, so yay there
In other news, Mythic is apparently dropping some info on the new rvr pack from gamesday. Here's the notes people have posted so far:
First half are tweets from one of the core testers, second half is a quick note writeup from somebody there. The official board mod says the stuff is real, so I'll be keeping my fingers crossed as it sounds pretty awesome. :!:
-gutter runner! petmanent stealth, 70% fatser than everyone else, super squish...y, can sabbotage siege weapons, leap onto walls.
-warlock engineer, builds warpstone buff nodes for healing, can repear siege weapons in combat. has flamethrower!
-packmaster can summon hoards of rats, gives stacking debuff to reduce damage.
-rat ogres can throw allies onto keep walls, is also only other thing that can damage kwep door. cannot be healed though except by pack master
-skavens! classes not careers. rat ogre and pack master confirmed
-no more keep lords or npcs. keeps are now CTF battles. capture flag takes 30 seconds.
-the enemy keep door can only be damaged by a ram. at rank 4 you get a ram and arial bombers! you can parachute into a keep from the bombers
-keeps upgrade by gathering resources. at rank 3 better siege weapons... 3k unmitigated damage
-new rvr- take enemy keep = win zone. bo's give resources to make keep stronger. you can respawn in keeps!
-new rr abilities; last stand, take no damade for a period but then you die. total cleanse, no ap cost for short period.
-new renown points have no tier locks, more renown abilities, no renown tactics anymore. more custonisation.
-new barber surgeon to redo character appearance
-purchaseable war tract , one time only
-server transfer to underpopped servers from overpopulated, new vanity items mounts pets coming! a
NEW ORVR!
* each zone has two keeps. each realm has a keep. cap the keep, the zone flips!
fly into contested zone, arrive at keep!
* need all 3 pairings to lock city!!
NEW KEEPS/BOS!
* BOs are now flippable with no lockdown time!
* will spawn resource runner npcs ("like the sappers in city siege") that will run to warcamp
* resources go towards upgrading keeps!
* all keeps have defensive siege weapons!
* siege weapons now do good damage!
* resource runners upgrade! (basic=squishy, lvl 1 = faster an d tougher, lvl3=mounted and tougher)
* keeps upgrade to have offensive siege weapons!
* seige is now portable! no more pads!
* keep doors can only be damaged in 2 ways! (1 being ram)
* lvl 3 keeps get aerial bombers (griffin/manticore flying mounts, with a gtaoe ability, and the ability to parachute into keeps)
* no more ninja-ing keeps!
* no more rvdoor
* no more keeplords, replaced by 30sec cap flag
SKAVEN!
* RAT OGRES, tanky, charge(+speed +kb on all in front) hurl (chuck someone onto walls)
* PACKMASTER, healer, only one who can heal rat ogre. buffer.
The aerial stuff sounds very ambitious, but the rest of it? I'm gonna stay optimistic and say it's very feasible (mechanics wise).
-The whole BO resource thing is just rehashing the capture mechanic from cities, so they know that part works.
-'hiring' skaven will probably be like expedition resources. "collect x fragments of warpstone from defeated players" and turn into a skaven npc for a buff that turns you into one.
-jumping or launching players onto walls, just place a rain of fire style marker on the part off the wall, then you get 'pulled' there.
Now actual balance, rewards, and lack of bugs? ahahaha :rotate:
How have they changed the expedition resource balance since it was first put in? Back then it just felt like "hey, play PVP for a dozen hours and you may just be able to afford a slightly stronger, one use cannon! It's balanced because it's useless!".
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MorninglordI'm tired of being Batman,so today I'll be Owl.Registered Userregular
edited September 2010
Expedition resources are for land of the dead.
A couple of high ordanance siege cannons will worry the crap out of an attacking warband, giving you a chance to push out and wipe them. It puts solid pressure on their healing.
If they have bad healing, it can break them.
So no, they don't outright kill anyone with each shot. That would be incredibly broken as RVR currently stands. But they do have a solid support use.
Someone mentioned mdps feeling like they had their candy stolen when they went from t3 to t4.
I'm currently at the point on my WH where I've gotten all my candy back and I'm in the process of stealing everybody elses.
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Yeah, the high ordinance don't come out very often, but they can help tip the tide if things are really close. Purple rams are pretty great for upgraded doors too.
You'll see the most use out of the upgraded siege weapons in t2/3 though. A flaming siege to take down the oil, or knockback cannon can be ridiculously helpful as neither side has the crazy dps/protection of t4 yet.
I don't think I've ever seen skulls of the fallen and that altar thing ever used though.
Did some digging, this is what I found from a herald article. Dunno how current it is.
Divine Favor Altar!
Guilds that have reached Rank 40 can purchase the Divine Favor Altar. This altar will be located on the Lord level and is used to unleash pure terror on any would be-attackers in the Keep area. To purchase an Altar, the guild must be Rank 40 and have purchased a Ritualist NPC as well.
The Divine Favor Altar needs to be fueled, and what better way to appease the gods than by collecting the skulls of fallen enemies! Each enemy player, when killed, has a chance to drop a Skull. Collecting these Skulls in the Divine Favor Altar will build up a Divine Favor charge. Anyone can deposit Skulls into a Divine Favor Altar.
500 Skulls equate to 1 Divine Favor charge. Up to 5 charges can be stored in the Altar. Players with the appropriate guild permissions can fire the Divine Altar, unleashing a damaging blow to enemies in the Keep area. Once the ability is fired, it cannot be fired again for 10 minutes.
I always forget about them, too, but mostly because I havn't seen a keep siege that went on long enough for it to matter. Maybe in the new system it might.
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I think I'm playing this game wrong. I'm doing pretty good in PvP, had a lot of really good one on ones as well as several keep sieges (both attacking and defending).
But I am poor as fuck and have no idea how to make money. Like, sell gear and shit I don't need I guess? It seems like I should be using my trade skills, but it's taking me for fucking EVER to level up Talisman making.
I think I'm playing this game wrong. I'm doing pretty good in PvP, had a lot of really good one on ones as well as several keep sieges (both attacking and defending).
But I am poor as fuck and have no idea how to make money. Like, sell gear and shit I don't need I guess? It seems like I should be using my trade skills, but it's taking me for fucking EVER to level up Talisman making.
How does I shot monies?
Butchering nets a good deal of money.
And not just selling it on the AH, I'm talking just selling it to a vendor.
However the best butchering is only really available with a Knob or a Chosen for lizzy grinding. With one of those classes, the money flows like WINE.
I forgot how damn long it takes to get renown. I played for 2 hours today and only got 7% of a level at 49>50. About 6 scens then 30 min of orvr. Most I got from a scen was 4% and I just got hella support.
Every time I think about playing again I think of the T4 zones.
I was sick of them back when I originally got to 40/40, and I doubt time has tempered my feelings toward them any. I do miss the PvP. It was a shit-ton of fun, and I have yet to play any other game that compares to it when everything's working well. I'm probably gonna have to trade-off between this and LotRO to get the best of everything.
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MorninglordI'm tired of being Batman,so today I'll be Owl.Registered Userregular
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I love this game because there's fighting everywhere now.
Outnumbered to shit? That means 400% renown aka rr $$ for anybody unwise enough to be too far away from their group. I can get 700 a kill minimum in a small group, usually around 1000. If I happen to kill someone solo I'll usually get around 4000.
Anybody who claims you don't get much from AAO is an idiot for giving up on all the rr $$ too quickly. There's been plenty of times where I've been fighting around the edges of a bo the enemy zerg has been taking and picking off people who extend too far from the main force, along with a decent group of order doing the same. Then when the enemy leaves, sometimes they don't come to take you. Instead the main force will leave the bo and go somewhere else, leaving the eager beagers behind to get slaughtered by us. Those times are like payday. I got half of 46 in half an hour doing that. We are talking like 36000 renown per ten minute block for aao hunting, if you play it smart and don't just charge them blindly. And that was a slow day with two other people in my group and sharing rr with other people who were also killing the same targets. I got a full rr in a couple of hours of running around the back streets of praag last week with that iron breaker tank I was jizzing over before. We would kill people as they straggled through and RR just rolled in.
You can't go anywhere in the zones anymore without having to watch out for people trying to get oyu. you outnumber them? Better watch your back. They're hunting for you.
If you are playing this game the old way, playing it safe, staying out of trouble, hunting the bos for safe rve, you are missing out on so much rr it is not funny. You have only yourself to blame. It's the equivelant of going out and pveing green mobs to level and nothing else. Yes it's slow. Yes it's boring. That's your fault. There's plenty of fast, rewarding and exciting things you could be doing.
Plus its encouraging lots and lots of small scale battles all over the place. Which is fantastic fun.
I will admit though, part of the reason I don't feel the grind is that I'm at a decent place right now and so I get really wrapped up in the fighting and don't stare at my rr all the time. It's more like I'll be having fifteen minutes of awesome then happen to glance up and be like "well holy shit that got me alot". I really got very lucky by getting that purple weapon from the city.
If someone has something they are aiming for specifically at high rr, that would probably make it a lot worse. My advice would be to try and have fun now.
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manning a keep oil in T2 with 400% AOO just as the door breaks is a nice way to max influence and gain at least one entire level in the space of about 5 seconds.
I don't know if this still applies in higher tiers due to people being much less fucking retarded.
manning a keep oil in T2 with 400% AOO just as the door breaks is a nice way to max influence and gain at least one entire level in the space of about 5 seconds.
I don't know if this still applies in higher tiers due to people being much less fucking retarded.
It's not so much less retarded as it is they have better defenses. No matter how you max out your dude, you can't stay up against oil in t2 unless you have a boatload of healers.
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I think I'm playing this game wrong. I'm doing pretty good in PvP, had a lot of really good one on ones as well as several keep sieges (both attacking and defending).
But I am poor as fuck and have no idea how to make money. Like, sell gear and shit I don't need I guess? It seems like I should be using my trade skills, but it's taking me for fucking EVER to level up Talisman making.
How does I shot monies?
If you're doing rvr, DO THE RVR QUESTS. They DO help with a little bit of money if you do the repeatable scouting quests and what not.
Morninglord: That doesn't really work for a magus. Since it takes so long to load up our dots, 90% of the time the person starts getting spam healed before they die.
On a wh though I'm sure it's fantastic.
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Morninglord: That doesn't really work for a magus. Since it takes so long to load up our dots, 90% of the time the person starts getting spam healed before they die.
On a wh though I'm sure it's fantastic.
I'd just dot up everybody and do the aoes. Let the others kill for you, just make sure you tag them. Follow the aao hunters around, they'll be wherever the buff is.
Also keeps. You are fantastic in keeps. That's where your renown is. Defend keeps, you wont be alone and you'll get tons just by tagging people.
Unless your server sucks you should still get more hunting aao than anything else. Just one kill in ten minutes can get you more than a bo. Sometimes I can't catch up to people before they die, so I have to try and tag them with snapshot (the ranged 30feet snare) just before they die. That adds up quickly over time.
this worth of aao hunting is immediately noticeable when they lock a zone and aao drops off (since it disappears when they lock it). Kills go from 300 just from tagging a dude with a snapshot before he dies, to 75.
That difference is what you are facing if you only ever run around doing safe stuff.
Plus people will often try to ninja a bo and each tick of a bo in 400% is 1600!
So yeah don't cop out and go "Oh he's playing a wh he wouldn't know what it's like". I see every single class doing aao hunting, including magus when we outnumber them. You too can enjoy the benefits. you just gotta realise you are going to die doing this and tell yourself ahead of time "That guy's getting only getting 75 for me. Poor him." The point is that the dying is worth it!
(I'm basicaly trying to stop you from arguing yourself into a self-fulfilling prophecy of "it'll suck, so I might as well not bother" where you'll go out into the lake once die and then go "he's crazy". Try this. Go out, do it for a week. Put yourself into the dangerous situations. Go to zones with enemy zergs, find the X's, go to them, pal up with the order there. Try not to take too many risks, play it safe, dot people up, help out. See what it's like. Do this in various zones and such for a week, just to make sure you encounter all the different situations and matchups that can happen and aren't selling yourself short. Then reflect back on the whole thing. Then come back and tell me wether or not it works. If it still sucks, if you can honestly do that and it sucks no matter what, then so be it.)
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Now that is a remarkably coherent statement of support for something, ML. Just for that alone its refreshing. (Man this country's politics has been depression)
So I gather things have gotten a lot zippier and more active since I've been around... Allright, so, do we have guilding and such goiong?
I've tried it a few times on my magus, and I have yet to run into a group that doesn't outnumber us to the point where we can't get a kill. So many times I have gotten someone down to like 5% then boom their healer notices and I'm back at square one.
I've been pretty unlucky looking for small skirmishes in T4. It's usually 40 of them vs 5 of us, or the other way around.
How do you 'find' AAO buffs? Does AAO cover an entire RvR lake? zone? objective? Any suggestions for finding groups for it? I'm destro on badlands, so I'm sure to run into you at some point (grrr, I hate WH :P)
I'm also massively undergeared (4 annih, 2 conq I think, and green talis). I figure I'll just wait till I can equip Invader before I start buying renown gear since I'm so close.
edit: I will say I've done it quite a bit on my SH in T2 and it's pretty ridiculous the amount of renown you get from each kill. I got an entire renown rank in 1 kill at one point... well maybe only like 80% of a rank.
I've tried it a few times on my magus, and I have yet to run into a group that doesn't outnumber us to the point where we can't get a kill. So many times I have gotten someone down to like 5% then boom their healer notices and I'm back at square one.
I've been pretty unlucky looking for small skirmishes in T4. It's usually 40 of them vs 5 of us, or the other way around.
How do you 'find' AAO buffs? Does AAO cover an entire RvR lake? zone? objective? Any suggestions for finding groups for it? I'm destro on badlands, so I'm sure to run into you at some point (grrr, I hate WH :P)
I'm also massively undergeared (4 annih, 2 conq I think, and green talis). I figure I'll just wait till I can equip Invader before I start buying renown gear since I'm so close.
edit: I will say I've done it quite a bit on my SH in T2 and it's pretty ridiculous the amount of renown you get from each kill. I got an entire renown rank in 1 kill at one point... well maybe only like 80% of a rank.
I'd ask magus on your side for advice. Particularly, note ones that are wearing decent gear/and or seem to be doing well. You'll get ignored a few times, but try it enough and you will hopefully find a friendly one. I happened to luck out and note a wh going past me while scouting solo in a lake. A few minutes later I saw 3 kills pop in quick order from the same guy and whispered "Nice!" to him. Then I went to a keep about five minutes later, saw him there and started chatting. He gave me very good advice.
AAO covers the entire rvr lake for each zone. So Caledor, Dragonwake, eataine are independent lakes for the purposes of AAO. If you have the buff in dragonwake, then move to eataine, it'll drop off your list of buffs.
The best way to figure out where it is is to download State of the Realm from curse.com. It will put up 3 sets of bars on your screen. Each bar represents the current zone in each racial pairing that is currently being contested. For example, if Praag is currently contested, praag information will be displayed.
Within that praag bar you will see the keeps, who owns them and wether they are under attack. It will also give you a vp number for each side. If you hover your mouse over the vp's, it will tell you how many vps that side has gained in the last 2 minutes or so. (You can change how often it updates)
The way I keep track of it when we are currently outnumbered is to look for vp swings in favour of the enemy zerg. For example, if one side has 10 and the other has 40, but the side with 40 says "gained 36vp in the last 2:10 min" then go there. Then look for the signs of conflict on the map and head there.
Of course, if you aren't outnumbered and are on the zerging side, you are better off going with them. But do pop out of the bo's and such to /wave at me and dot me up while you are waiting for the tick, and others like me.
Don't mind the 1k crits that's just my way of saying "Hi!"
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Nothing really. Besides the obvious idiot human being. And there's really wrong with a media outlet not knowing the difference between video games. That's pretty normal, they're ignorant.
Worst TotP.
Nothing wrong with the fact that the 2nd picture of the article is from WAR, a game they're not talking about, and they're citing the picture as copyrighted by the smallworld game? I mean it was a pretty simple puzzle but nevermind :P
All this talk about AAO and I think it was the best thing Mythic implemented to the game in a long time. People now, even outnumbered, will stay in the zone to defend the last BO and get as much AAO bonus as possible. That generates some really good battles. Before the patch, if you followed a zerg, most of the time you were just taking empty keeps and BOs, because no one bothered to go defend that.
Also forming up gank groups to go around the lake where there is a huge enemy zerg, picking off stragglers and smaller groups and getting TONS of RR is the most fun I've had in a while in this game. I finally reached rr80 on my WP and I gotta thank AAO for that, if not, I would probably be in the low 70's.
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All this talk about AAO and I think it was the best thing Mythic implemented to the game in a long time. People now, even outnumbered, will stay in the zone to defend the last BO and get as much AAO bonus as possible. That generates some really good battles. Before the patch, if you followed a zerg, most of the time you were just taking empty keeps and BOs, because no one bothered to go defend that.
Also forming up gank groups to go around the lake where there is a huge enemy zerg, picking off stragglers and smaller groups and getting TONS of RR is the most fun I've had in a while in this game. I finally reached rr80 on my WP and I gotta thank AAO for that, if not, I would probably be in the low 70's.
One of the other benefits is that people have realised that out of group healing other people pulls in a lot of aao bonus exp, which can often be pretty significant numbers (60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 etc, they're all 60 because I'm lazy. But you can also get big numbers if you heal someone solo who is doing most of the damage, ie 600 etc).
So as a solo wh, running along with a bunch of other solo or small groups, if I happen to step out and start killing people in front of them, I get focused healed.
It's in healers own selfish interest to heal other people.
AAO is an out of group healing trainer.
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Woot! Got my gear upgraded quite a bit. Got myself up to 1013 INT and 630 WOU without a linament. I need to get the 4% crit talisman for shoulders which will bring me down to 992 INT, but damn they're 42 gold, and for a time limited one too. Guess I'll pick up butchering to make some money. Up to 4 conq/2 anni now, and will be replacing that anni with invader asap.
The boost to officer medallions dropping made me pretty
I went from 0 annih gear to a full set in three days. Now it looks like i'm going to have enough medallions to outright buy all of conqueror by the time I get the required rr too.
Invader seems so far away though, then I can finally go dps blorc :P
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If you want to grind though T4 just get the focus'd block and go to LOTD, that skill is banana's
Nothing wrong with the fact that the 2nd picture of the article is from WAR, a game they're not talking about, and they're citing the picture as copyrighted by the smallworld game? I mean it was a pretty simple puzzle but nevermind :P
My listed damage on my bread and butter attack skill went from 520 this morning to 608 at lunchtime. I started getting the ridiculous crits we used to do to me.
I ended up rolling with another WH who is much better geared I used to talk to a lot and I left the party open. A lil Iron breaker jumped in and ran around with us, guarding one of us and generally being an excellent tank in every way. Eventually the other WH had to log and I end up in praag with this guy. I find out that he can't speak english very well via the simple expedient of his first sentence in party chat being "I CANT SPEAK ENGLISH GOOD"
Nevertheless, he was such an awesome IB and knew lots of good places to catch people streaming through praag in ones and twos on their way to the various places. He would lead me around with commands such as "COME" "RISK" (meaning dangerous area) "GO BACK" "HERE" and I followed him like a little puppy because we were taking on groups of 5 together and winning. And he obviously knew the zones like the back of his hand, so I would just follow him behind the little doorways and places where you can't be seen while we waited for people to pass.
It was the most enjoyable duo I've ever had. I pulled in easily three bubbles of 42 before the AAO ran out of the zone.
Fucking. Awesome. Tank.
Thanks for the tip about that, I've been grinding the drake nest whenever I can.
In other news, yay for another double renown weekend! Time to work on catching my rr up again
I think he meant doing champion runs as a tank.
Yeah, i figured champ runs were the usual method, but there's never any groups looking for a tank destro side, so I gave up trying to get in one. Considering I can pull the whole drake nest (10-15'ish?) and burn them down in ~2 minutes, I'm not complaining.
Yeah that is pretty nice tank wise.
Now I'm kind of torn on what to raise next as an alt. I like the sheer face-melting damage of WE's, but having a zealot seems to be something just "good to have." I'm not to sure about spamming flash of chaos for 40 levels though.
I kind of wish there was another tier for rr60-80 players so they wouldn't just gangbang the lower rr people.
Play something you will like. If you find a healer you like playing, then play it. Don't play something in order to "do the right thing".
You'll most likely start to hate playing it and/or not play it properly.
Personally, even if there are no healers, I'd still prefer someone playing a class they love and hence naturally inclined to work their ass off to get better at than someone playing a healer they hate hitting the same button wishing they'd rolled something else and consequently playing like shit.
In other news, Mythic is apparently dropping some info on the new rvr pack from gamesday. Here's the notes people have posted so far:
First half are tweets from one of the core testers, second half is a quick note writeup from somebody there. The official board mod says the stuff is real, so I'll be keeping my fingers crossed as it sounds pretty awesome. :!:
-gutter runner! petmanent stealth, 70% fatser than everyone else, super squish...y, can sabbotage siege weapons, leap onto walls.
-warlock engineer, builds warpstone buff nodes for healing, can repear siege weapons in combat. has flamethrower!
-packmaster can summon hoards of rats, gives stacking debuff to reduce damage.
-rat ogres can throw allies onto keep walls, is also only other thing that can damage kwep door. cannot be healed though except by pack master
-skavens! classes not careers. rat ogre and pack master confirmed
-no more keep lords or npcs. keeps are now CTF battles. capture flag takes 30 seconds.
-the enemy keep door can only be damaged by a ram. at rank 4 you get a ram and arial bombers! you can parachute into a keep from the bombers
-keeps upgrade by gathering resources. at rank 3 better siege weapons... 3k unmitigated damage
-new rvr- take enemy keep = win zone. bo's give resources to make keep stronger. you can respawn in keeps!
-new rr abilities; last stand, take no damade for a period but then you die. total cleanse, no ap cost for short period.
-new renown points have no tier locks, more renown abilities, no renown tactics anymore. more custonisation.
-new barber surgeon to redo character appearance
-purchaseable war tract , one time only
-server transfer to underpopped servers from overpopulated, new vanity items mounts pets coming! a
NEW ORVR!
* each zone has two keeps. each realm has a keep. cap the keep, the zone flips!
fly into contested zone, arrive at keep!
* need all 3 pairings to lock city!!
NEW KEEPS/BOS!
* BOs are now flippable with no lockdown time!
* will spawn resource runner npcs ("like the sappers in city siege") that will run to warcamp
* resources go towards upgrading keeps!
* all keeps have defensive siege weapons!
* siege weapons now do good damage!
* resource runners upgrade! (basic=squishy, lvl 1 = faster an d tougher, lvl3=mounted and tougher)
* keeps upgrade to have offensive siege weapons!
* seige is now portable! no more pads!
* keep doors can only be damaged in 2 ways! (1 being ram)
* lvl 3 keeps get aerial bombers (griffin/manticore flying mounts, with a gtaoe ability, and the ability to parachute into keeps)
* no more ninja-ing keeps!
* no more rvdoor
* no more keeplords, replaced by 30sec cap flag
SKAVEN!
* RAT OGRES, tanky, charge(+speed +kb on all in front) hurl (chuck someone onto walls)
* PACKMASTER, healer, only one who can heal rat ogre. buffer.
* warlock engineer - rdps.
* gutter runner - perma stealth, low dmg, boobytraps siege (4k hits (before mitigate) unusable siege)
* basically you "hire" the skaven, in that you go somewhere and press something and you become that skaven until you turn back
other new stuff:
barbershop surgeon - change appearance
server transfers!
paid vanity pets/mounts
This is mythic after all. They have a pretty bad track record.
I'm not bitter (like, honestly, I'm not, I love this game and play it regularly).
I'm just being honest.
-The whole BO resource thing is just rehashing the capture mechanic from cities, so they know that part works.
-'hiring' skaven will probably be like expedition resources. "collect x fragments of warpstone from defeated players" and turn into a skaven npc for a buff that turns you into one.
-jumping or launching players onto walls, just place a rain of fire style marker on the part off the wall, then you get 'pulled' there.
Now actual balance, rewards, and lack of bugs? ahahaha :rotate:
A couple of high ordanance siege cannons will worry the crap out of an attacking warband, giving you a chance to push out and wipe them. It puts solid pressure on their healing.
If they have bad healing, it can break them.
So no, they don't outright kill anyone with each shot. That would be incredibly broken as RVR currently stands. But they do have a solid support use.
Someone mentioned mdps feeling like they had their candy stolen when they went from t3 to t4.
I'm currently at the point on my WH where I've gotten all my candy back and I'm in the process of stealing everybody elses.
You'll see the most use out of the upgraded siege weapons in t2/3 though. A flaming siege to take down the oil, or knockback cannon can be ridiculously helpful as neither side has the crazy dps/protection of t4 yet.
I don't think I've ever seen skulls of the fallen and that altar thing ever used though.
No that's the dude upstairs.
The hell is it for?
Been awhile since I've logged in.
Did some digging, this is what I found from a herald article. Dunno how current it is.
I always forget about them, too, but mostly because I havn't seen a keep siege that went on long enough for it to matter. Maybe in the new system it might.
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But I am poor as fuck and have no idea how to make money. Like, sell gear and shit I don't need I guess? It seems like I should be using my trade skills, but it's taking me for fucking EVER to level up Talisman making.
How does I shot monies?
Butchering nets a good deal of money.
And not just selling it on the AH, I'm talking just selling it to a vendor.
However the best butchering is only really available with a Knob or a Chosen for lizzy grinding. With one of those classes, the money flows like WINE.
Grind some rats/drakes and butcher them, then vendor. It's surprisingly good money.
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I was sick of them back when I originally got to 40/40, and I doubt time has tempered my feelings toward them any. I do miss the PvP. It was a shit-ton of fun, and I have yet to play any other game that compares to it when everything's working well. I'm probably gonna have to trade-off between this and LotRO to get the best of everything.
Outnumbered to shit? That means 400% renown aka rr $$ for anybody unwise enough to be too far away from their group. I can get 700 a kill minimum in a small group, usually around 1000. If I happen to kill someone solo I'll usually get around 4000.
Anybody who claims you don't get much from AAO is an idiot for giving up on all the rr $$ too quickly. There's been plenty of times where I've been fighting around the edges of a bo the enemy zerg has been taking and picking off people who extend too far from the main force, along with a decent group of order doing the same. Then when the enemy leaves, sometimes they don't come to take you. Instead the main force will leave the bo and go somewhere else, leaving the eager beagers behind to get slaughtered by us. Those times are like payday. I got half of 46 in half an hour doing that. We are talking like 36000 renown per ten minute block for aao hunting, if you play it smart and don't just charge them blindly. And that was a slow day with two other people in my group and sharing rr with other people who were also killing the same targets. I got a full rr in a couple of hours of running around the back streets of praag last week with that iron breaker tank I was jizzing over before. We would kill people as they straggled through and RR just rolled in.
You can't go anywhere in the zones anymore without having to watch out for people trying to get oyu. you outnumber them? Better watch your back. They're hunting for you.
If you are playing this game the old way, playing it safe, staying out of trouble, hunting the bos for safe rve, you are missing out on so much rr it is not funny. You have only yourself to blame. It's the equivelant of going out and pveing green mobs to level and nothing else. Yes it's slow. Yes it's boring. That's your fault. There's plenty of fast, rewarding and exciting things you could be doing.
Plus its encouraging lots and lots of small scale battles all over the place. Which is fantastic fun.
I will admit though, part of the reason I don't feel the grind is that I'm at a decent place right now and so I get really wrapped up in the fighting and don't stare at my rr all the time. It's more like I'll be having fifteen minutes of awesome then happen to glance up and be like "well holy shit that got me alot". I really got very lucky by getting that purple weapon from the city.
If someone has something they are aiming for specifically at high rr, that would probably make it a lot worse. My advice would be to try and have fun now.
I don't know if this still applies in higher tiers due to people being much less fucking retarded.
It's not so much less retarded as it is they have better defenses. No matter how you max out your dude, you can't stay up against oil in t2 unless you have a boatload of healers.
If you're doing rvr, DO THE RVR QUESTS. They DO help with a little bit of money if you do the repeatable scouting quests and what not.
On a wh though I'm sure it's fantastic.
I'd just dot up everybody and do the aoes. Let the others kill for you, just make sure you tag them. Follow the aao hunters around, they'll be wherever the buff is.
Also keeps. You are fantastic in keeps. That's where your renown is. Defend keeps, you wont be alone and you'll get tons just by tagging people.
Unless your server sucks you should still get more hunting aao than anything else. Just one kill in ten minutes can get you more than a bo. Sometimes I can't catch up to people before they die, so I have to try and tag them with snapshot (the ranged 30feet snare) just before they die. That adds up quickly over time.
this worth of aao hunting is immediately noticeable when they lock a zone and aao drops off (since it disappears when they lock it). Kills go from 300 just from tagging a dude with a snapshot before he dies, to 75.
That difference is what you are facing if you only ever run around doing safe stuff.
Plus people will often try to ninja a bo and each tick of a bo in 400% is 1600!
So yeah don't cop out and go "Oh he's playing a wh he wouldn't know what it's like". I see every single class doing aao hunting, including magus when we outnumber them. You too can enjoy the benefits. you just gotta realise you are going to die doing this and tell yourself ahead of time "That guy's getting only getting 75 for me. Poor him." The point is that the dying is worth it!
(I'm basicaly trying to stop you from arguing yourself into a self-fulfilling prophecy of "it'll suck, so I might as well not bother" where you'll go out into the lake once die and then go "he's crazy". Try this. Go out, do it for a week. Put yourself into the dangerous situations. Go to zones with enemy zergs, find the X's, go to them, pal up with the order there. Try not to take too many risks, play it safe, dot people up, help out. See what it's like. Do this in various zones and such for a week, just to make sure you encounter all the different situations and matchups that can happen and aren't selling yourself short. Then reflect back on the whole thing. Then come back and tell me wether or not it works. If it still sucks, if you can honestly do that and it sucks no matter what, then so be it.)
So I gather things have gotten a lot zippier and more active since I've been around... Allright, so, do we have guilding and such goiong?
I've been pretty unlucky looking for small skirmishes in T4. It's usually 40 of them vs 5 of us, or the other way around.
How do you 'find' AAO buffs? Does AAO cover an entire RvR lake? zone? objective? Any suggestions for finding groups for it? I'm destro on badlands, so I'm sure to run into you at some point (grrr, I hate WH :P)
I'm also massively undergeared (4 annih, 2 conq I think, and green talis). I figure I'll just wait till I can equip Invader before I start buying renown gear since I'm so close.
edit: I will say I've done it quite a bit on my SH in T2 and it's pretty ridiculous the amount of renown you get from each kill. I got an entire renown rank in 1 kill at one point... well maybe only like 80% of a rank.
edit2: this is me
I'd ask magus on your side for advice. Particularly, note ones that are wearing decent gear/and or seem to be doing well. You'll get ignored a few times, but try it enough and you will hopefully find a friendly one. I happened to luck out and note a wh going past me while scouting solo in a lake. A few minutes later I saw 3 kills pop in quick order from the same guy and whispered "Nice!" to him. Then I went to a keep about five minutes later, saw him there and started chatting. He gave me very good advice.
AAO covers the entire rvr lake for each zone. So Caledor, Dragonwake, eataine are independent lakes for the purposes of AAO. If you have the buff in dragonwake, then move to eataine, it'll drop off your list of buffs.
The best way to figure out where it is is to download State of the Realm from curse.com. It will put up 3 sets of bars on your screen. Each bar represents the current zone in each racial pairing that is currently being contested. For example, if Praag is currently contested, praag information will be displayed.
Within that praag bar you will see the keeps, who owns them and wether they are under attack. It will also give you a vp number for each side. If you hover your mouse over the vp's, it will tell you how many vps that side has gained in the last 2 minutes or so. (You can change how often it updates)
The way I keep track of it when we are currently outnumbered is to look for vp swings in favour of the enemy zerg. For example, if one side has 10 and the other has 40, but the side with 40 says "gained 36vp in the last 2:10 min" then go there. Then look for the signs of conflict on the map and head there.
Of course, if you aren't outnumbered and are on the zerging side, you are better off going with them. But do pop out of the bo's and such to /wave at me and dot me up while you are waiting for the tick, and others like me.
Don't mind the 1k crits that's just my way of saying "Hi!"
Also forming up gank groups to go around the lake where there is a huge enemy zerg, picking off stragglers and smaller groups and getting TONS of RR is the most fun I've had in a while in this game. I finally reached rr80 on my WP and I gotta thank AAO for that, if not, I would probably be in the low 70's.
One of the other benefits is that people have realised that out of group healing other people pulls in a lot of aao bonus exp, which can often be pretty significant numbers (60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 60 etc, they're all 60 because I'm lazy. But you can also get big numbers if you heal someone solo who is doing most of the damage, ie 600 etc).
So as a solo wh, running along with a bunch of other solo or small groups, if I happen to step out and start killing people in front of them, I get focused healed.
It's in healers own selfish interest to heal other people.
AAO is an out of group healing trainer.
I went from 0 annih gear to a full set in three days. Now it looks like i'm going to have enough medallions to outright buy all of conqueror by the time I get the required rr too.
Invader seems so far away though, then I can finally go dps blorc :P
Time to keep on grinding away!