Mortal Kombat Deception was fucking awesome. I was a beast with Jade. It's probably my favorite game in the series.
After watching the new game trailer, it looks akin to a Mortal Kombat II remake. Mortal Kombat has never had the greatest fighting engine ever, but it's one of those games that, despite its shortcomings, is always simple, stupid fun. I'm looking forward to it.
Man that was a pretty great short. Also Michael Jai White has my eternal gratitude for being in Black Dynamite so that is just aces.
I can dig it.
Short aside(which I enjoyed), I'm pumped for this reboot of MK. Can see stages from MK1, and 2, the pit with spikes is back from 1 not the pit with...nothing from 2. Either way, thank god it went back to 2D style.
The live action teaser wasn't too bad. I liked the tone of it, most of the casting choices and the fighting. I really disliked the origin changes for Reptile and Baraka though. I read and listened to the interview with the director and for the most part, he said nothing but positive things and I really liked his ideas. If he gets to make a full feature movie, he just needs to stick to the classic origins and the Movie would be something I'd be thrilled to see. Oh, and he needs to cast Donnie Yen as Kung Lao.
As for the newest game trailer, doesn't look bad, except that it looks as stiff as ever. Glad they are going back to 2D and I hope they got rid of the dial-a-combo gameplay. Beginning with Deadly Alliance, it limited the gameplay way too much. There was barely any fun to be had, because you couldn't really do anything on your own. You could barely mix any attacks up, because pretty much everything was a combo that required a precise sequence of buttons to be pressed.
It wasn't so much that every combo was precise, it was that with the way the combos worked there was always 1 or 2 combos that were easiest to start and did the most damage, which was the ultimate flaw. It's the same problem that keeps the Dead or Alive series down. You learn the best combo for your character (and in Dead or Alive, throw option) and you never have a reason to do anything else. Boring.
I admit that I was extensively enthralled with the movie trailer.
I also admit that I can't exactly comprehend the backlash caused by it.
The current Mortal Kombat mythology is exhausted (not to mention reeling after bankruptcy). One of the reasons people became bored with the series was because they just kept adding and adding onto the story to the point that it just became some contrived mythological tale best reserved for shallow fan-spank comics. I guess the point I'm trying to make here is that Mortal Kombat needs a reboot like this. It lost it's violent touch, and from the start, all of the characters seemed to be particularly dull (I felt that they flirted with being interesting, and desperately wanted them to be so) anyway.
If you want a old school Mortal Kombat, you have all the old movies, tv shows, comics, and games. There's lots of netherrealm revenue to be had, and yes, some of it is extremely horrendous which makes me understand why someone would want a "true reboot". However, including a "mystical" aspect to the story is extremely hard to work. There's a reason the mythology has been failed so many times, and it's because the netherrealm, and hear me out here, is silly. It just seems to be some magical place to introduce uninspired characters. Hey, let's put a centaur in the game, and then a dragon. How about something that looks like an Ifrit from Final Fantasy? I don't care about any of that.
I want to know about the dynamic conflict between Scorpion and Sub-Zero. I want to know why Kano is such a sick fuck. I want to resurrect Shakespeare from the dead so he can promptly write a play about the unfortunate sibling envy between Mileena and Kitana. I want the now-useless 'k' dropped from the name, and in its place, I want a 'c', which has to stand for "cleansed of immaturity". This series has a great, underrepresented mythology, but Midway squandered it for the low-brow road.
I know this will never happen, but in its place is this trailer. It cuts out a lot of the immaturity element of the series, and instead introduces some much more interesting characterization. Maybe it's still relatively shallow, but I feel it's a step in the right direction. It did do one thing that the series never inspired me to do: care for Johnny Cage in just the slightest. I thoroughly enjoyed his beat-down; I hated that character so much. However, his last drag on that cigar right before he died symbolized that even the shallowest character on the MK roster was deserving of interest.
I digress, I feel that in order for MK to become interesting, it needs to drop the one thing that made it feel so silly in the first place: the netherrealm. In that mindset, I was hoping the game reboot would follow en suite. I played enough Mortal Kombat 2 in my day, and I really don't want to play it anymore. If I did, I'd just play the original; it's not that bad of a game. I'm older now, however, and my tastes have changed. I would like for this series to grow up as well. I'm sorry if others don't feel the same way about it, but at this point, I think the series has been beat down enough to justify "if you don't like it, play/watch/read the old one".
Not mincing any words, are they? I doubt any ad campaign is going to reach the kind of viral success that the commercials for the console ports of MK 1 did, though.
I'm pretty sure Mortal Kombat earned its bad name because they're terrible fighting games, not because the story is silly. It's really not any dumber than what goes on in other fighting games.
I'm pretty sure Mortal Kombat earned its bad name because they're terrible fighting games, not because the story is silly. It's really not any dumber than what goes on in other fighting games.
Honestly, I don't care to touch the fighting aspect of the games. I'm not a fighter fan; I can wish for it to be anything I want, but my opinion really doesn't matter. I wrote what I did in response to everyone getting upset over the reboot, movie-wise, mostly.
I'm pretty sure Mortal Kombat earned its bad name because they're terrible fighting games, not because the story is silly. It's really not any dumber than what goes on in other fighting games.
Honestly, I don't care to touch the fighting aspect of the games. I'm not a fighter fan; I can wish for it to be anything I want, but my opinion really doesn't matter. I wrote what I did in response to everyone getting upset over the reboot, movie-wise, mostly.
Actually your opinion or the opinions of people like you matters a lot probably. Mortal Kombat has had a bad name in the fighter community for a long time now, but it still sells really well. So it's really the fighter for non-fighting game fans. I assume the people who make it know this because they've done nothing up until now (going back to 2D) to appease fighting game fans in even the smallest way. Instead they add things for more casual fans like karts, puzzle games, an adventure game, etc ...
I'm sure even the 2D reboot is because they saw SFIV sell real well at 2D and not anything to do with fighting game fans. We've been wanting them to do that for a long time.
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And still weren't any sillier than other fighting game or video game movies.
The first movie was a pretty accurate adaptation, actually.
Yep. The only issue I had with it is that Scorpion and Sub-Zero got totally fucked in the story department.
"Yeah, we don't want to bother with their backstory, so we'll throw in a line about how their the "deadliest of adversaries" and then just have Shang Tsung mind control them.
And still weren't any sillier than other fighting game or video game movies.
The first movie was a pretty accurate adaptation, actually.
One of the few game-to-movie adaptations to actually do its source material justice in its cheesy, "Game of Death" inspired storyline (albeit one with mystical soul-sucking sorcerers, Chinese ninjas and a four-armed monster). Armageddon ditched all the tounge-in-cheek stuff and made it mindless spectacle for mindless spectacle's sake, unfortunately.
I digress, I feel that in order for MK to become interesting, it needs to drop the one thing that made it feel so silly in the first place: the netherrealm. In that mindset, I was hoping the game reboot would follow en suite. I played enough Mortal Kombat 2 in my day, and I really don't want to play it anymore. If I did, I'd just play the original; it's not that bad of a game. I'm older now, however, and my tastes have changed. I would like for this series to grow up as well. I'm sorry if others don't feel the same way about it, but at this point, I think the series has been beat down enough to justify "if you don't like it, play/watch/read the old one".
Taking out the mystical elements out of Mortal Kombat, is like taking out all the fantasy elements out of Lord of the Rings. You're stripping the franchise of what made it what it is, and leave it to be just a shadow of it's former self.
The mystical elements work, the first Movie proofed that much. Just apply to that the tone and brutality of this new live action teaser, get a better script and a decent budget so the effects don't suck.
Grounding the characters in a "real" sense, makes them actually more silly than their game counterparts. So Baraka is a former Doctor... Who can extend his blades like Wolverine and knows martial arts for no reason. Or Reptile, who's a normal person with a skin condition and apparently will also know the secret Ninja arts for no reason.
I digress, I feel that in order for MK to become interesting, it needs to drop the one thing that made it feel so silly in the first place: the netherrealm. In that mindset, I was hoping the game reboot would follow en suite. I played enough Mortal Kombat 2 in my day, and I really don't want to play it anymore. If I did, I'd just play the original; it's not that bad of a game. I'm older now, however, and my tastes have changed. I would like for this series to grow up as well. I'm sorry if others don't feel the same way about it, but at this point, I think the series has been beat down enough to justify "if you don't like it, play/watch/read the old one".
Taking out the mystical elements out of Mortal Kombat, is like taking out all the fantasy elements out of Lord of the Rings. You're stripping the franchise of what made it what it is, and leave it to be just a shadow of it's former self.
The mystical elements work, the first Movie proofed that much. Just apply to that the tone and brutality of this new live action teaser, get a better script and a decent budget so the effects don't suck.
Grounding the characters in a "real" sense, makes them actually more silly than their game counterparts. So Baraka is a former Doctor... Who can extend his blades like Wolverine and knows martial arts for no reason. Or Reptile, who's a normal person with a skin condition and apparently will also know the secret Ninja arts for no reason.
Not trying to pick apart your point, but lots of people in real life know martial arts for no reason.
Unless you count "martial arts are cool" as a real reason. Which I do.
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It's filled with fantastical and mystical elements. A Normadic warrior race from another dimension, is more plausible than a failed surgeon who turned himself into Wolverine and turned into an expert martial artist.
You're right. The existence of an otherworldly hell dimension is far more plausible than an ex plastic surgeon learning kung fu.
You're correct here. But then again the entire character concept is absurd. You're asking people to suspend belief over something that obviously not based in reality and doesn't pass a smell test. If that's the case, why not just go balls out and do the hell dimension.
Mortal Kombat is about the real world colliding with a world filled of myth and magic. If you take all these elements away and try to ground them into "realism", which actually turns out to be more absurd, you end up with something that is Texas Chainsaw Massacre meets Mortal Kombat. Just real people gone psychotic and killing other people.
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We should send that idea to Hot Topic.
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After watching the new game trailer, it looks akin to a Mortal Kombat II remake. Mortal Kombat has never had the greatest fighting engine ever, but it's one of those games that, despite its shortcomings, is always simple, stupid fun. I'm looking forward to it.
I can dig it.
Short aside(which I enjoyed), I'm pumped for this reboot of MK. Can see stages from MK1, and 2, the pit with spikes is back from 1 not the pit with...nothing from 2. Either way, thank god it went back to 2D style.
I rolled with Jade too
If this new MK has Jade, you're on
As for the newest game trailer, doesn't look bad, except that it looks as stiff as ever. Glad they are going back to 2D and I hope they got rid of the dial-a-combo gameplay. Beginning with Deadly Alliance, it limited the gameplay way too much. There was barely any fun to be had, because you couldn't really do anything on your own. You could barely mix any attacks up, because pretty much everything was a combo that required a precise sequence of buttons to be pressed.
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I also admit that I can't exactly comprehend the backlash caused by it.
The current Mortal Kombat mythology is exhausted (not to mention reeling after bankruptcy). One of the reasons people became bored with the series was because they just kept adding and adding onto the story to the point that it just became some contrived mythological tale best reserved for shallow fan-spank comics. I guess the point I'm trying to make here is that Mortal Kombat needs a reboot like this. It lost it's violent touch, and from the start, all of the characters seemed to be particularly dull (I felt that they flirted with being interesting, and desperately wanted them to be so) anyway.
If you want a old school Mortal Kombat, you have all the old movies, tv shows, comics, and games. There's lots of netherrealm revenue to be had, and yes, some of it is extremely horrendous which makes me understand why someone would want a "true reboot". However, including a "mystical" aspect to the story is extremely hard to work. There's a reason the mythology has been failed so many times, and it's because the netherrealm, and hear me out here, is silly. It just seems to be some magical place to introduce uninspired characters. Hey, let's put a centaur in the game, and then a dragon. How about something that looks like an Ifrit from Final Fantasy? I don't care about any of that.
I want to know about the dynamic conflict between Scorpion and Sub-Zero. I want to know why Kano is such a sick fuck. I want to resurrect Shakespeare from the dead so he can promptly write a play about the unfortunate sibling envy between Mileena and Kitana. I want the now-useless 'k' dropped from the name, and in its place, I want a 'c', which has to stand for "cleansed of immaturity". This series has a great, underrepresented mythology, but Midway squandered it for the low-brow road.
I know this will never happen, but in its place is this trailer. It cuts out a lot of the immaturity element of the series, and instead introduces some much more interesting characterization. Maybe it's still relatively shallow, but I feel it's a step in the right direction. It did do one thing that the series never inspired me to do: care for Johnny Cage in just the slightest. I thoroughly enjoyed his beat-down; I hated that character so much. However, his last drag on that cigar right before he died symbolized that even the shallowest character on the MK roster was deserving of interest.
I digress, I feel that in order for MK to become interesting, it needs to drop the one thing that made it feel so silly in the first place: the netherrealm. In that mindset, I was hoping the game reboot would follow en suite. I played enough Mortal Kombat 2 in my day, and I really don't want to play it anymore. If I did, I'd just play the original; it's not that bad of a game. I'm older now, however, and my tastes have changed. I would like for this series to grow up as well. I'm sorry if others don't feel the same way about it, but at this point, I think the series has been beat down enough to justify "if you don't like it, play/watch/read the old one".
Not mincing any words, are they? I doubt any ad campaign is going to reach the kind of viral success that the commercials for the console ports of MK 1 did, though.
Talk about keeping it simple.
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Honestly, I don't care to touch the fighting aspect of the games. I'm not a fighter fan; I can wish for it to be anything I want, but my opinion really doesn't matter. I wrote what I did in response to everyone getting upset over the reboot, movie-wise, mostly.
And still weren't any sillier than other fighting game or video game movies.
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Actually your opinion or the opinions of people like you matters a lot probably. Mortal Kombat has had a bad name in the fighter community for a long time now, but it still sells really well. So it's really the fighter for non-fighting game fans. I assume the people who make it know this because they've done nothing up until now (going back to 2D) to appease fighting game fans in even the smallest way. Instead they add things for more casual fans like karts, puzzle games, an adventure game, etc ...
I'm sure even the 2D reboot is because they saw SFIV sell real well at 2D and not anything to do with fighting game fans. We've been wanting them to do that for a long time.
The first movie was a pretty accurate adaptation, actually.
Yep. The only issue I had with it is that Scorpion and Sub-Zero got totally fucked in the story department.
"Yeah, we don't want to bother with their backstory, so we'll throw in a line about how their the "deadliest of adversaries" and then just have Shang Tsung mind control them.
Thanks guys. :P
One of the few game-to-movie adaptations to actually do its source material justice in its cheesy, "Game of Death" inspired storyline (albeit one with mystical soul-sucking sorcerers, Chinese ninjas and a four-armed monster). Armageddon ditched all the tounge-in-cheek stuff and made it mindless spectacle for mindless spectacle's sake, unfortunately.
Taking out the mystical elements out of Mortal Kombat, is like taking out all the fantasy elements out of Lord of the Rings. You're stripping the franchise of what made it what it is, and leave it to be just a shadow of it's former self.
The mystical elements work, the first Movie proofed that much. Just apply to that the tone and brutality of this new live action teaser, get a better script and a decent budget so the effects don't suck.
Grounding the characters in a "real" sense, makes them actually more silly than their game counterparts. So Baraka is a former Doctor... Who can extend his blades like Wolverine and knows martial arts for no reason. Or Reptile, who's a normal person with a skin condition and apparently will also know the secret Ninja arts for no reason.
Not trying to pick apart your point, but lots of people in real life know martial arts for no reason.
Unless you count "martial arts are cool" as a real reason. Which I do.
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You're correct here. But then again the entire character concept is absurd. You're asking people to suspend belief over something that obviously not based in reality and doesn't pass a smell test. If that's the case, why not just go balls out and do the hell dimension.
Nope, wrong, incorrect. Mortal Kombat is about the violence.
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though it would probably involve some sort of physics experiment gone wrong.