Hmm I'm not usually one for the all age's titles , but you all led me to gold with Thor and the four, gonna have to try and get ahold of Pet Avengers ( altho I'm gonna want that cat armor'd up when I see him! heh)
any other all ages mini's I may have overlooked? I can handle grabbing some back issues or a mini , but strapped as it is with regular series in my pull.
ya the dark/edgy is nice, but so are breaks from it. ( thor and the four, and pet avengers hopefully by the weekend. just good ol cheese, but well done cheese )
Kinda like how most of the comedy I like is super raunchy, yet I love Corner Gas heh
I'm not getting the SHIELD love. I mean I like Hickman, his FF run has been pretty good and I enjoyed the hell out of Pax but this just isn't working for me. I think it might be that I just don't have a clue WTF is going on.
Only thing I didn't like about Young Allies was the dialogue coming out of the Bastards of Evil's mouths. It was both exposition heavy, and had that faux 90's rebellious feel. I was waiting for one to just start yelling about the man and his establishment.
Only thing I didn't like about Young Allies was the dialogue coming out of the Bastards of Evil's mouths. It was both exposition heavy, and had that faux 90's rebellious feel. I was waiting for one to just start yelling about the man and his establishment.
I'm pretty sure that's intentional considering the political themes McKeever was using in Nomad.
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What are these themes, perchance?
(I didn't really like the end to the Nomad backup this week, it was a good story until the very end where it seemed more like something from DC and their current direction).
It would be difficult for me to overstate the extent to which I think that X-Men: Xenogenesis should be the core ongoing monthly book and everything happening in Uncanny/X-Force/New Mutants should be a 5-issue death-obsessed miniseries.
I think Ellis is taking a nice opportunity to write flavorful little encounters between the characters with a smaller cast. I like Andrews' loose, cartoony art. The linework is really lively, with most volumes and shadows handled by low-key coloring. Characters' bodies and faces are all strongly differentiated, and honestly I would have a hard time telling apart a room full of superheroes wearing identical uniforms and baseball caps with a lot of artists. You have the X-Men flying to a distant land, investigating spooky baby births and dealing with normal people, doctors, Mutantes sans Frontieres (dear marvel most superhero shirts are stupid but I would totally buy a subtle MSF shirt best regards desc), and now it appears the next issue will open with them batting a half-cyborg dude who looks like he just fell out of a Capcom fighting game. This is way more fun than worrying about whatever Hope is going to do in the future or past or whatever timeline nonsense is going on in Uncanny.
So what have we learned so far for $3.99 per slender issue? That the X-men can look unique without being photoreferenced shots of actors, that they can be in stories that aren't literally just them being trapped in a tiny bubble angsting and dying, and that Fraction and Dodson should get to do Marvel Presents Uncanny Science X-Monthly and that we should just give up on the current meta-arcs about island asteroids and time-mutant-genetic-whatevers.
also mohawk Storm is the real storm search your feelings you know it to be true
Isn't the art in Xenogenesis pretty bad though? And while I like Ellis X-men work, I think you're being a bit too hard on Uncanny and X-Force. I haven't read any New Mutants though except for the Siege issue.
I'm inclined to think that Andrews is drawing Xenogenesis as he is for a reason, and especially exaggerating Frost's breasts. It's not like the dude can't draw more realistically if he wants to. The dude's super-talented and has a lot of stylistic diversity, as is obvious by the Iron Fist, Dead of Night, Hulk, and Twelve covers he did. And his interiors on Ultimate X-Men and Spider-Man: Reign were pretty fantastic, though the latter was dragged down by abominable CGI backgrounds.
Maybe it's just the growing pains of trying a new style.
I'm inclined to think that Andrews is drawing Xenogenesis as he is for a reason, and especially exaggerating Frost's breasts. It's not like the dude can't draw more realistically if he wants to. The dude's super-talented and has a lot of stylistic diversity, as is obvious by the Iron Fist, Dead of Night, Hulk, and Twelve covers he did. And his interiors on Ultimate X-Men and Spider-Man: Reign were pretty fantastic, though the latter was dragged down by abominable CGI backgrounds.
Maybe it's just the growing pains of trying a new style.
I respect that he is possibly a great artist, I havn't really seen much of his other stuff, but this really doesn't do it for me, and not just because of Emma Frost but nearly everything else too. Of course, different strokes for different folks, as they say, I'm sure some people out there will enjoy it.
You can't expect that to be everyone's cup of tea.
I realize it's definitely stylized and hey, I'm all for that over realism and crosshatching out the ass
I just really, really do not like it
Which is cool, I wouldn't expect everyone to like it, and I'm certainly not going to get into some sort of "Your opinion is WRONG and here's why...!" it just annoys me to see people go beyond saying they don't like it and shitting all over it.
and honestly if you're going to bash that issue at least go for the bizarre giant headed moon babies on the left side of the title page...
I like the ( horribly drawn ) look on whoever's face that is the tits are coming over the chair to attack. He's got a " oh nos the tittay's have broken free and are coming for me " look
Yesss polarizing GV with my MOTW choices is the best.
If someone told me to describe the art style in Xenogenesis mini in one word, I would say "funky." I've read so many random indie books with overly precious art that I guess this just didn't phase me -- is it the superhero context that is throwing people? Because there is so much stuff out there that is well beyond this level of body distortion and quirky gestures.
I've seen a lot of minor variants on "hard bodied samefaces hold 3-4 poses for 28 pages" over the years in X-Men, so the obviously intentional exaggerations of bodies (boobs on emma, hair on emma and storm, necks and shoulders on the guys) struck me as a pleasantly rare change in flavor.
I mean ... superheroes are always drawn incredibly unrealistically. Gravity applies to everyone, not just non-mutants. Spandex does not conveniently show off some bulges and mysteriously hide others. An artist who is ready to wink about that long and storied tradition of sexualized hero bodies and toy with some different styles is always welcome in my book.
wirehead: Admittedly I am being pretty hard on the main arc going right now, but I am following it across new mutants and x-force, both of which I've been following since their reboots, and even picked up the Forever issues that cross over with the arc. The story is supposed to be hitting its tense peak over the next few issues but I am getting Event Fatigue. By the time they were revisiting an even grimmer and darker and more monochromatic Days of Future Past #1 cover, I was losing interest. I really liked Uncanny in San Fransisco, but since then the book has become pretty much precisely the list of things I hoped it wouldn't become. :l
I think that the biggest problem is what we have come to expect Emma to look like (hot) has been exaggerated, so when Andrews puts some real proportion to the rest of her (ie the required weight to have those breasts without them being implants) she becomes a bit more pudgy than people would like. I also don't care for how she looks, personally I think she looks like Ms. Piggy as a person, but I still respect the art and have no issues with the other characters.
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He is. Just not as P-cat.
Edit: DAMN YOU, LOGO!
any other all ages mini's I may have overlooked? I can handle grabbing some back issues or a mini , but strapped as it is with regular series in my pull.
The Power Pack stuff has great art but isn't always as fun as Warriors Four is, the Skrulls story was good though.
Other than that, Marvel Adventures Avengers/Super-Heroes is a good line of stories, where the world doesn't have death or blood in it.
Kinda like how most of the comedy I like is super raunchy, yet I love Corner Gas heh
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I'm pretty sure that's intentional considering the political themes McKeever was using in Nomad.
(I didn't really like the end to the Nomad backup this week, it was a good story until the very end where it seemed more like something from DC and their current direction).
The Bastards are the bad kind of activism. The crazy anarchist teenagers who want to make a statement by blowing things up for no reason.
I mean, that wouldn't just be heroic it would be epic *cue awesome guitar solo*
I think Ellis is taking a nice opportunity to write flavorful little encounters between the characters with a smaller cast. I like Andrews' loose, cartoony art. The linework is really lively, with most volumes and shadows handled by low-key coloring. Characters' bodies and faces are all strongly differentiated, and honestly I would have a hard time telling apart a room full of superheroes wearing identical uniforms and baseball caps with a lot of artists. You have the X-Men flying to a distant land, investigating spooky baby births and dealing with normal people, doctors, Mutantes sans Frontieres (dear marvel most superhero shirts are stupid but I would totally buy a subtle MSF shirt best regards desc), and now it appears the next issue will open with them batting a half-cyborg dude who looks like he just fell out of a Capcom fighting game. This is way more fun than worrying about whatever Hope is going to do in the future or past or whatever timeline nonsense is going on in Uncanny.
So what have we learned so far for $3.99 per slender issue? That the X-men can look unique without being photoreferenced shots of actors, that they can be in stories that aren't literally just them being trapped in a tiny bubble angsting and dying, and that Fraction and Dodson should get to do Marvel Presents Uncanny Science X-Monthly and that we should just give up on the current meta-arcs about island asteroids and time-mutant-genetic-whatevers.
also mohawk Storm is the real storm search your feelings you know it to be true
I agree with desc overall though. I'm enjoying the book.
What will be your first act as the new Mayor of Wrongville?
Is Xenogensis #2 out already?
Dude, seriously, that art is incredibly shit. Just look at Emma Fost, she looks hideous. I mean properly, utterly hideous.
If you want to start a fight, back up your OH GOD WHAT'S WRONG WITH HER FACE
In the first panel, why do her breasts have the same little wrinkle above them as her eyes do? I think... I think they're looking at me.
The answer to both your questions is the same, because the art is bad.
Maybe it's just the growing pains of trying a new style.
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I respect that he is possibly a great artist, I havn't really seen much of his other stuff, but this really doesn't do it for me, and not just because of Emma Frost but nearly everything else too. Of course, different strokes for different folks, as they say, I'm sure some people out there will enjoy it.
Do her breasts represent out of control military spending?
You can't expect that to be everyone's cup of tea.
I realize it's definitely stylized and hey, I'm all for that over realism and crosshatching out the ass
I just really, really do not like it
Which is cool, I wouldn't expect everyone to like it, and I'm certainly not going to get into some sort of "Your opinion is WRONG and here's why...!" it just annoys me to see people go beyond saying they don't like it and shitting all over it.
and honestly if you're going to bash that issue at least go for the bizarre giant headed moon babies on the left side of the title page...
I'm about 80% sure that's Ellis' fault.
The dude has story writing ADD.
If someone told me to describe the art style in Xenogenesis mini in one word, I would say "funky." I've read so many random indie books with overly precious art that I guess this just didn't phase me -- is it the superhero context that is throwing people? Because there is so much stuff out there that is well beyond this level of body distortion and quirky gestures.
I've seen a lot of minor variants on "hard bodied samefaces hold 3-4 poses for 28 pages" over the years in X-Men, so the obviously intentional exaggerations of bodies (boobs on emma, hair on emma and storm, necks and shoulders on the guys) struck me as a pleasantly rare change in flavor.
I mean ... superheroes are always drawn incredibly unrealistically. Gravity applies to everyone, not just non-mutants. Spandex does not conveniently show off some bulges and mysteriously hide others. An artist who is ready to wink about that long and storied tradition of sexualized hero bodies and toy with some different styles is always welcome in my book.
wirehead: Admittedly I am being pretty hard on the main arc going right now, but I am following it across new mutants and x-force, both of which I've been following since their reboots, and even picked up the Forever issues that cross over with the arc. The story is supposed to be hitting its tense peak over the next few issues but I am getting Event Fatigue. By the time they were revisiting an even grimmer and darker and more monochromatic Days of Future Past #1 cover, I was losing interest. I really liked Uncanny in San Fransisco, but since then the book has become pretty much precisely the list of things I hoped it wouldn't become. :l