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http://www.dailybruin.com/articles/2007/11/27/hidden-tails/
Hidden tails
Long misunderstood furry fandom finds its home on the Internet, at annual conventions
By Alene Tchekmedyian
Nov. 27, 2007 at 12:06 a.m.

Ian Martyn spends a typical day attending lecture, practicing with his musical band and chatting online. But as a furry, he often performs these activities while wearing a tail and a collar.

A subculture that arose in the early 1980s, the furry fandom is characterized by an individual’s fascination with anthropomorphic characters. Though the furry movement is not as prevalent at UCLA as other colleges, devoted furries on campus such as Martyn express this movement through art, music, wearing fursuits and attending furry conventions.

Furries often adopt an animal name for their interactions with friends and other furries. Martyn, a fourth-year anthropology and linguistics student, identifies himself as Bucker the Fox.

“I like role playing and thought animals were cool, so I gathered information and talked to other furries. Then I got fully into it,” said Martyn.

Furries also engage in a unique form of communication with other group members.
“When I talk to furries online, instead of saying ‘hey’, I say ‘arf’ or ‘woof.’ Instead of sending a happy face, I’ll say, ‘wags tail.’ There is a different dialogue online,” he said.

Brett Mommaerts, a second-year electrical engineering student, goes by the persona (known in the furry world as a ‘fursona’), Bacon the Margay.

“A couple (of) my friends introduced me to it in high school, and I liked it, so I started meeting other furries in the area, and we all kind of jumped in,” he said.

Fursuits – full body costumes that resemble UCLA’s Joe Bruin – are also worn during furry parades, conventions, dances or fundraising events. Neither Mommaerts nor Martyn own fur suits, mostly because of the dent it would create in their wallets: Fursuits often cost over $1,000.

“I will invest in one eventually, when I have enough money and am willing to spend it,” said Mommaerts.

Robert Lemelson, assistant researcher of psychiatry and biobehavioral sciences, said that the furry subculture has become increasingly popular due to industrialization and the rise of freedom of expression.

“Historically and culturally, humans have had very complex relations with animals. Humans have lived intimately with animals since the rise of Homo sapiens. Now, in modern industrialized culture, we have less opportunity to interact with animals, so that kind of impulse is translated in different ways,” he said.

It also provides a network of support and friendships.

“It’s a way for them to socialize,” Lemelson said.

Through this social phenomenon, individuals with common interests can convene. During furry conventions, individuals attend informational panels, with topics ranging from instructions on how to make a fursuit to writing furry music. Organizers also put on art exhibits of anthropomorphic drawings and host furry dances. Martyn and Mommaerts both annually attend Further Confusion, the second largest annual furry convention in the United States, which is held in San Jose.

Martyn has taught a panel at a furry convention on how to write furry music.

“You can sing about how you are stuck in the city and how you just want to go out to the forest and be free. I encourage furries not to hide behind the stereotypes that everyone feels required to conform to do certain things. Some of my lyrics are, ‘Don’t hide your tail in your pants,’” he said.

As a musician, Martyn feels that his furriness has helped him write music for his band, Illegal Operation, for which he plays the guitar and sings.

“I have broadened my musical horizons through it. I am in a furry band and we perform at conventions. It’s an opportunity for me to express creativity in a setting where people are not out there to judge you,” he said.
“I also think having a tail is cool.”

Furry paintings and drawings are often auctioned off at conventions. Fred Patten, who has been a furry fan since the early 1980s, said of furry art: “The main component of furry art seems to be depicting animals displaying human intelligence, or animals that are humanized in some obvious aspect. Many of the best furry artists draw or paint both anthropomorphized animal art and realistic wildlife art.”

Furry conventions have a charitable aspect as well.

“A lot of conventions support animal rescue charities and try to have them bring some exotic animals to the conventions, if their hotels will permit it,” Patten said.

The UCLA furry population is small compared to other college campuses’.

“There are about seven furries on campus. There might be more that we have not found,” Martyn said. “UC Santa Cruz has over 20 furries, and arts schools also have a lot.”

But as the culture expands, Martyn and Mommaerts find that furries are often misrepresented as sexual creatures; they assert that only a small percentage of furries consider it a fetish.

The Internet, however, has served as an effective mechanism to popularize the subculture and introduce UCLA furries to other fans across the nation.

“The Internet gives people who may have some sort of subconscious interest in this (a way) to find interest groups, share thoughts, find companionship and share experiences. Without the Internet, there would be no community or social interest. With the rise of the Internet, people all over the world can find something that fits. We are free to explore different interests,” Lemelson said.

Patten also notes the importance of the Internet because it allows furries to meet one another more easily and freely in a comfortable space.

“The Internet has been a great catalyst for furry fandom. After the Internet, new fans turned up whom nobody knew personally, who identified themselves only by their animal names. The Internet has particularly enabled the ‘furry lifestylers’ to form their own subculture,” Patten said.

Lemelson emphasized that the furry subculture is no different from other hobbies, such as sports, theater or gardening.

“It’s odd, but in some ways it’s just an alternative cultural practice,” he said. “It should not be viewed as something deviant, but as something different.”

Missing from the online version of the article is the sidebar with a small glossary of furry terms like "fursecution" and "fursona".

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    So now the 3DS is gonna be cool because it may be powerful enough for Nintendo to put in a good online backbone and allow voice chat.

    Really, Spork?

    Really? Can we please just admit that the 3DS is a minor upgrade made to curtail piracy? Pretty please?

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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
  • mrflippymrflippy Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    mrflippy wrote:
    American Chinese food can die in a fire. It's astoundingly unhealthy, famously unsatisfying, and makes me nauseous without fail. Why is it so damned popular?

    It tastes great.
    It would be a great appetizer but after a few bites it quickly becomes too much. Yet people order it as a meal.

    Your "quickly becomes too much" is apparently different from other people's.

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2010
    Bucker the Fox

    Bacon the Margay

    "Don’t hide your tail in your pants"

    "Lemelson emphasized that the furry subculture is no different from other hobbies, such as sports, theater or gardening."


    olol

    the world is doomed

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  • firewaterwordfirewaterword Satchitananda Pais Vasco to San FranciscoRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Ick.

    Anyway, guess who has two thumbs and is off work early? ME!

    Later gentlemen.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    Ick.

    Anyway, guess who has two thumbs and is off work early? ME!

    Later gentlemen.

    You're not Bob Kelso...

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    Ick.

    Anyway, guess who has two thumbs and is off work early? ME!

    Later gentlemen.

    Note: Cut off his thumbs

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  • Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Bucker the Fox

    Bacon the Margay

    "Don’t hide your tail in your pants"

    "Lemelson emphasized that the furry subculture is no different from other hobbies, such as sports, theater or gardening."


    olol

    the world is doomed
    I know the first guy mentioned in this article.

    Honestly, I'd have had no idea he was a furry except for one or two hints he's dropped. And then of course I saw this article.

    I'm about to google his name in a few minutes to see how high this shows up on the results.

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  • DaxonDaxon Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Nerdgasmic wrote: »

    What a gaylord.

    Sheep wrote: »
    So now the 3DS is gonna be cool because it may be powerful enough for Nintendo to put in a good online backbone and allow voice chat.

    Really, Spork?

    Really? Can we please just admit that the 3DS is a minor upgrade made to curtail piracy? Pretty please?

    How's it curtail piracy?

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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Bucker the Fox

    Bacon the Margay

    "Don’t hide your tail in your pants"

    "Lemelson emphasized that the furry subculture is no different from other hobbies, such as sports, theater or gardening."


    olol

    the world is doomed

    uh, have you listened to Chorale of the Ravens, the furry song of 2009?


    You bigit

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  • Protein ShakesProtein Shakes __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    Nerdgasmic wrote: »

    someone needs to stop eating carbs lol

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    There's some car I see on the highway all the time with a tail coming out from under the license plate. I want to push this guy off the road every morning and into a fucking concrete wall.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Furries fuck each other. That's all they do. It's never non sexual.

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  • DaxonDaxon Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Furries fuck each other. That's all they do. It's never non sexual.

    Whenever a furry sees another furry they go into a blind mating rage.

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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    Nerdgasmic wrote: »

    someone needs to stop eating carbs lol
    Why do you say so?

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  • TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Aw, I never got to be persecuted as a teenager for my subcultures.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Are there like, Giraffe and Elephant furries?

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  • LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    My greatest fear is becoming an old man and having D&D style ultralibs call me a bigot because, no I don't think furries should be able to get legally married under their fursonas.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    Okay I got to the point where the guy was writing furry songs about being "stuck in the city" and tapped out. These people are a fucking problem and should be gassed en masse.

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  • YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi A point called Z In the complex planeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    And it's pouring. And IR took my umbrella with her down to Baltimore.

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Protein Shakes, guess what I am eating? Delicious carbs. So good.

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  • Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2010
    I'm a furry. My fursona is Turing the Human.

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  • Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    "I'm just gonna disprove your theories with this vid--"

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  • YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi A point called Z In the complex planeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I eat a loaf of white bread every day now. Out of spite.

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  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Will's obsession with furries goes deeper than you'd think. He sent me this drawing that he made of his fantasy meeting with Feral.

    Not safe for... Well, not safe.
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  • RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    furries are harmless

    creepy beyond words, but harmless

    hate mormons, libertarians, and the rich, but not the furries

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  • MazzyxMazzyx Comedy Gold Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I eat a loaf of white bread every day now. Out of spite.

    At least eat a rye. Taste much better. Or a sour dough, yum.

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  • LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Hating furries is less retarded than hating the rich

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Dammit VH

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    Rust wrote: »
    furries are harmless

    creepy beyond words, but harmless

    hate mormons, libertarians, and the rich, but not the furries

    They're only harmless while their numbers remain small.

    Which is why they must be stamped out now.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    And really, if you're desperate enough, just make yourself a costume and go get laid.

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  • Hi I'm Vee!Hi I'm Vee! Formerly VH; She/Her; Is an E X P E R I E N C E Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Dammit VH
    Man shut up, this was in my college newspaper. UCLA's newspaper!

    I got to read it along with the pictures of furry art and whatnot.

    I really wish the sidebar was included, that was fucking gold.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Rust wrote: »
    furries are harmless

    creepy beyond words, but harmless

    hate mormons, libertarians, and the rich, but not the furries

    nope, I just hate furries

    and mormons

    and libertarians

    and the rich

    but mostly furries

    actually mostly mormons and libertarians

    and the rich

    but I hate furries too

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  • LaOsLaOs SaskatoonRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I eat a loaf of white bread every day now. Out of spite.

    Shh! You'll give geckhan a stroke!

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  • TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I am into furries, but only if they are humanimal furries

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  • Rear Admiral ChocoRear Admiral Choco I wanna be an owl, Jerry! Owl York CityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Okay I got to the point where the guy was writing furry songs about being "stuck in the city" and tapped out. These people are a fucking problem and should be gassed en masse.

    A problem to be solved with some degree of finality, would you say?

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2010
    Daxon wrote: »
    Furries fuck each other. That's all they do. It's never non sexual.

    Whenever a furry sees another furry they go into a blind mating rage.

    all sprayin musk errywhere

    pheremones hanging heavy in the air

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  • LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Okay I got to the point where the guy was writing furry songs about being "stuck in the city" and tapped out. These people are a fucking problem and should be gassed en masse.

    A problem to be solved with some degree of finality, would you say?

    this would be a good solution

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Tarranon wrote: »
    I am into furries, but only if they are humanimal furries

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    Jesus S_O is so fucked up

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2010
    Okay I got to the point where the guy was writing furry songs about being "stuck in the city" and tapped out. These people are a fucking problem and should be gassed en masse.

    A problem to be solved with some degree of finality, would you say?

    Holy fuck your avatar and sig scared the piss out of me.

    And I'm not saying we should re-open Auschwitz for the furries......okay, actually, yeah, let's just do that. Can we call Poland and make this happen?

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