Todays game sales:
People bought video games, maybe a lot of them, I dunno.
What I do know is E3 is still too damned far away, why isn't it monday yet?
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Because time is linear and cruel.
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Bah, I have to work Tuesday when Nintendo has theirs...so I'm stuck reading Joystiq's live blog while also trying to tell people what to do with their money. :x
Most of my co-workers will be out of town next week at my job supervising a campus computer lab, so I won't be doing much else other than reading E3 news next week, at least from 9-5.
I'm wondering if they have something huge for their E3 conference (that's not 3D) cause they're announcing all their big games already.
4D games. They'll announce that they invented a time machine and that the announcements that they announced earlier were actually announced at E3 and SENT BACK THROUGH TIME. Hence, 4D games.
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I Sony sometimes.
Eurogamer: Have you seen much of the Nintendo 3DS?
Ray Maguire: No.
Eurogamer: How concerned are you about the 3DS as a rival 3D technology?
Ray Maguire: You might think this is just a stock answer, but I firmly believe the PS3 was way over-specced when it came out at launch, as people thought then. We're now finding the vision of putting all that into the box in the first place is coming to fruition. The ability to do decent 3D, for instance, is only because of the processing power within it.
You've seen the device transition from being games-focused into something broader, with the firmware updates and the additions to the cross-media bar. It's transitioned massively over the last three years and you can see why we put the tech in there in the first place.
Obviously, the Slim has helped us get the price down a bit, and that's helped to get it into more of a mass market. But fundamentally, you are getting a lot of stuff in the PS3 for the money - and we haven't seen all of it yet.
Eurogamer: But do people want over-specced technology? The Wii and the DS have been winning the sales war hands-down, and they're the least high-tech of all the machines on the market.
Ray Maguire: When you do the analysis, yes, some of our competitors have been really successful. Appealing to a potentially smaller market at a lower price is a great strategy, and it's worked particularly well for one of our competitors.
However, when you then look at two years of massive decline, you wonder whether saturation in one part of the marketplace is as good as having a slower burn to enable a device to appeal to everyone in a mass market. That's the position we took with PSone and PS2 and the strategy worked with those two. We've already sold way over three-and-a-half million PS3 units now and we have yet to reach a mass-market price point.
So I think our strategy is correct. It gives developers the ability to create without being limited. And now we can switch on 3D without having to create a new machine.
When you do the analysis, yes, some of our competitors have been really successful. Appealing to a potentially smaller market at a lower price is a great strategy, and it's worked particularly well for one of our competitors.
...you wonder whether saturation in one part of the marketplace is as good as having a slower burn to enable a device to appeal to everyone in a mass market.
It depends. Have you profited more from saturation in "one part" of the marketplace, or from a slow burn? Since Nintendo has profited more, the answer is obviously yes.
I mean, considering how "one part" of the marketplace in this case means people from all walks of life including gamers.
And now we can switch on 3D without having to create a new machine.
I can just picture him grimacing as he says this, because he knows Sony would love to be able to sell the world a new machine for this feature.
Ok, near the end of the last thread it was reported that 5% more of PS3 owners use an HDTV than 360 owners.
I say that probably has more to do with the HDTV + PS3 bundles that a handful of stores had than which owner-base cares more about HD. I can't remember where, but one store was practically giving you a PS3 with the TV.
Sony's PlayStation Move and Xbox 360's Project Natal motion control solutions have been garnering a lot of the spotlight from core gamers and the press, but a new study reflects currently low purchase intent for the new devices.
Research firm OTX's U.S. tracking study GamePlan Insights polled a group of 2,000 gamers between May 23 and June 5, 2010, and found that 8 percent of the Xbox 360 market intends to buy Natal, and 6 percent of the PlayStation 3 market intends to purchase Move.
Of the people that are already planning on buying Natal and Move, 25 percent plan to preorder the controllers.
The low purchase intent figures reflect the current lack of information about compatible games for the devices. Microsoft and Sony are expected to reveal more motion-compatible games at next week's E3 event in L.A., where the controllers will be a central attraction, after which purchase intent may rise.
Neither piece of hardware has officially launched (Natal still goes by its codename), and Microsoft in particular plans on backing the controller's release with a substantial marketing push.
The GamePlan Insights study also said that 15 percent of the Xbox 360 market is aware of Natal, while the same percentage of the PS3 market is aware of the Move.
The study showed that Natal intenders have an average age of 25, versus 28 for the Move. Also, 30 percent of Move intenders are female, compared to 20 percent for Natal.
Natal intenders are also closely aligned with core Xbox 360 game tastes, with four out of five saying they like play shooter games a lot.
"While we are still months away from launch, the current data suggests that Natal gamers are definitely Xbox 360 purists, while Move gamers have a stronger interest in other platforms," OTX said.
When you do the analysis, yes, some of our competitors have been really successful. Appealing to a potentially smaller market at a lower price is a great strategy, and it's worked particularly well for one of our competitors.
This just made my week.
Same. And the dude actually said this with a straight face? Not even snickering? Man, I need to get that man to give me acting lessons
Wow...Santa Unleashed, and no Werehogs involved. :P
I see his points, they're all valid. But I love my iPhone and the connectivity it provides. The only thing that I don't get, and will never get is: texting. Like, I get it... but I didn't get a phone to send a message to someone, I got a phone to fucking call people. I fucking hate texting. I hate everything about it. It's fucking pointless.
I honestly feel it comes down to people not actually wanting to talk to each other. Which is why I say why pay extra per text/texting plans, wait till you get home and email/facebook/twitter/myspace someone.
No no, I agree with all his points actually, and as a guy who hates how having a cellphone has become a status symbol rather than a tool to most kids out there, I also have a loathing for text messages and for any type of text speak in general.
In fact one of the things I hate most are people (kids usually) who joins forums like this and feel the need to speak in 'text' rather than regular english. BAH! :x
All my wife's cousin's (she's 13) facebook posts are in retard-text-speek. Makes me want to slap the idiot out of her.
It depends. Have you profited more from saturation in "one part" of the marketplace, or from a slow burn? Since Nintendo has profited more, the answer is obviously yes.
I mean, considering how "one part" of the marketplace in this case means people from all walks of life including gamers.
Does appealing to everyone cost way too much damn money? Spending too much chasing only a few people is kind of foolish and the opposite of wise. in this case, appealing to the first adopters who want 3d or whatever cost Sony $Texas while they couldn't have known and still can't know whether the extra power will actually pay off with any significant amount of the base. Basing your plan on a best case scenario is something that would be really fucking stupid.
But X feature will become super popular! Yes, but when? Home 3d TVs may only become popular with a significant minority of people only at the tail end of a console's life. When the next generation actually starts isn't something you can determine unless you are a monopoly.
awwwwwwwwww, there was a shitstorm and I missed it? lame
anywho, that sony quote is a riot. it almost seems like they don't know why the ps1 and ps2 were so successful. The fact of the matter is that the PS3 is completely contrary to their previously employed console strategies. I don't for a second believe that they don't realize that; I just don't know why they're expecting people to believe them when they're blatantly lieing through their teeth.
All my wife's cousin's (she's 13) facebook posts are in retard-text-speek. Makes me want to slap the idiot out of her.
I haven't done txt speak ever. And I berate my friends who text me in that fashion.
Do text plans have some kind of per character charge? Did they ever? That I could excuse like with the limit in Twitter. Needs must and all.
some phones/plans have had a max character limit per text in the past, so being succinct could potentially save you money if you don't have an unlimited texting plan. I have an older phone and it only allows for 160 characters. I go over the limit every once in awhile, though that's just because I refuse to write in text speech in fear of my english degree climbing down from the wall and kicking me in the nads.
anywho, that sony quote is a riot. it almost seems like they don't know why the ps1 and ps2 were so successful. The fact of the matter is that the PS3 is completely contrary to their previously employed console strategies. I don't for a second believe that they don't realize that; I just don't know why they're expecting us to have forgotten.
But just look at how much the PS2 suffered because it couldn't go online or have an HDD without paying to upgrade it. Why, Sony was lucky it didn't die out that gen unlike the ubermensch Xbox selling gangbusters.
Who can forget the PS1. Not having an analogue stick nearly killed it. nobody bought the Dualshock. Nobody. Ape Escape was such a huge failure. Everybody upgraded to the N64.
anywho, that sony quote is a riot. it almost seems like they don't know why the ps1 and ps2 were so successful. The fact of the matter is that the PS3 is completely contrary to their previously employed console strategies. I don't for a second believe that they don't realize that; I just don't know why they're expecting us to have forgotten.
But just look at how much the PS2 suffered because it couldn't go online or have an HDD without paying to upgrade it. Why, Sony was lucky it didn't die out that gen unlike the ubermensch Xbox selling gangbusters.
Who can forget the PS1. Not having an analogue stick nearly killed it. nobody bought the Dualshock. Nobody. Ape Escape was such a huge failure. Everybody upgraded to the N64.
I think people who keep cell phones for emergency use only are missing something:
Sometimes you are in danger but have no cell service. Maybe you messed up and drove down a snow-packed logging road that should have been gated off but wasn't. And now you're stuck and in danger.
Get a ham radio license and a cheap-ish two meter band handheld. It may save your life, due in part to the substantial unexploited natural resource that is old retired folks and their radio hobbies. I don't care how rural an area you're in, if you can get into a local repeater you will be heard, and someone will be happy to forward your legitimate mayday call to the local authorities.
Then again even hams are susceptible to feature creep. My Yaesu VX-8R has a GPS receiver and built-in 1200/9600 bps packet modem, and can beacon my position every few seconds or minutes, send and receive APRS text messages, and forward messages through email gateways. (At least it can when you don't have a broken antenna feed line because your relative borrowed your car and put something heavy on the cable. X__X )
This might be the least videogame-related post EVER made in the video game industry sales thread.
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We have just as many problems with landlines here as we would cell phones.
Our phone line system is fucking old.
Develop telepathy.
Get a telegraph, Luddite!
Wouldn't help, the telegraph lines would go down, too.
Smoke signals is where it's at.
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People bought video games, maybe a lot of them, I dunno.
What I do know is E3 is still too damned far away, why isn't it monday yet?
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Is it really next week? And the Nintendo do is at 5pm England time ready for me when I get home from work right?
I'm wondering if they have something huge for their E3 conference (that's not 3D) cause they're announcing all their big games already.
...yay? kinda? I get more money anyways.
4D games. They'll announce that they invented a time machine and that the announcements that they announced earlier were actually announced at E3 and SENT BACK THROUGH TIME. Hence, 4D games.
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This just made my week.
I mean, considering how "one part" of the marketplace in this case means people from all walks of life including gamers.
I can just picture him grimacing as he says this, because he knows Sony would love to be able to sell the world a new machine for this feature.
That was pretty much my argument too.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/28904/Study_Purchase_Intent_For_PlayStation_Move_Natal_Below_10_Percent.php
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Same. And the dude actually said this with a straight face? Not even snickering? Man, I need to get that man to give me acting lessons
And my area is the hub of Cellular South, so we have a shit ton of towers around here.
So...
Cell service it is.
All my wife's cousin's (she's 13) facebook posts are in retard-text-speek. Makes me want to slap the idiot out of her.
It's not like they're running actual ads or anything.
You heard about these devices outside E3 and gaming forums? I'm pretty sure most people don't go where these things might be mentionned.
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Natal is plastered all over the Xbox Live dashboard. And I know Sony has the commercial for Move - not sure if it has aired or not.
Pretty much. I would worry if people still don't know about them after E3.
But X feature will become super popular! Yes, but when? Home 3d TVs may only become popular with a significant minority of people only at the tail end of a console's life. When the next generation actually starts isn't something you can determine unless you are a monopoly.
Forget it, Jake. It's SONY.
I haven't done txt speak ever. And I berate my friends who text me in that fashion.
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Do text plans have some kind of per character charge? Did they ever? That I could excuse like with the limit in Twitter. Needs must and all.
Edit: Okay, I thought they were the same, but SMS is actually limited to 160, not 140.
anywho, that sony quote is a riot. it almost seems like they don't know why the ps1 and ps2 were so successful. The fact of the matter is that the PS3 is completely contrary to their previously employed console strategies. I don't for a second believe that they don't realize that; I just don't know why they're expecting people to believe them when they're blatantly lieing through their teeth.
some phones/plans have had a max character limit per text in the past, so being succinct could potentially save you money if you don't have an unlimited texting plan. I have an older phone and it only allows for 160 characters. I go over the limit every once in awhile, though that's just because I refuse to write in text speech in fear of my english degree climbing down from the wall and kicking me in the nads.
Who can forget the PS1. Not having an analogue stick nearly killed it. nobody bought the Dualshock. Nobody. Ape Escape was such a huge failure. Everybody upgraded to the N64.
That's how it is in my world.
Sometimes you are in danger but have no cell service. Maybe you messed up and drove down a snow-packed logging road that should have been gated off but wasn't. And now you're stuck and in danger.
Get a ham radio license and a cheap-ish two meter band handheld. It may save your life, due in part to the substantial unexploited natural resource that is old retired folks and their radio hobbies. I don't care how rural an area you're in, if you can get into a local repeater you will be heard, and someone will be happy to forward your legitimate mayday call to the local authorities.
Then again even hams are susceptible to feature creep. My Yaesu VX-8R has a GPS receiver and built-in 1200/9600 bps packet modem, and can beacon my position every few seconds or minutes, send and receive APRS text messages, and forward messages through email gateways. (At least it can when you don't have a broken antenna feed line because your relative borrowed your car and put something heavy on the cable. X__X )
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