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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    i think it's all romanticized unless you're living in some shitty, strictly regimented country

    the daily grind's inherent everywhere

    doesn't seem markedly different outside of a few cultural differences

    If the majority of your life is dictated by the way you make money, you have no one to blame for that but yourself. The "daily grind" is such a small aspect of what makes up a human being that I think it's a little weird that you'd even say this.

    Have you read this?

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178211966454607.html

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    i simply mean day to day living and something that'll be prevalent, that's all. everybody's got shit to do during their day. culturally, it doesn't seem all that different. there are no real layers to pull back, no negative connotation

    ya'll punchin' at smoke

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    if i bookend a sentence with "FUCK IT ALL, SHIT'S GAY" then you can put on your negative nancy blinders

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    i simply mean day to day living and something that'll be prevalent, that's all. everybody's got shit to do during their day. culturally, it doesn't seem all that different. there are no real layers to pull back, no negative connotation

    ya'll punchin' at smoke

    except what you're defining as day-to-day living seems to be the barest, most shallow aspect of life

    seriously, read what I linked

    Two people can go to the exact same job and do the exact same chores and run the exact same errands and live entirely different lives. What you think about is up to you, and I think a big part of staying sharp, competent and positive in modern life is determining your own attentional biases.

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    DarricDarric Santa MonicaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Two friends and I are trying to put a plan together to move to Vancouver ourselves, at the beginning of next year. It's pretty daunting. D:

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    the shit beyond that is romanticized too, country to country

    my own experience, going to different states and living with a wide variety of cats is that while sure there are distinct things punctuating difference those very differences are all over and therefore the norm

    there are baseline things you'll never escape anywhere. rednecks, assholes, the vain, good people, regional foods, places to chill, so on so forth

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    i mean, even in this fucking shithole if i had some money there are some passable places

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    i think what you're getting at is that you think romanticizing has a bad connotation here (that's dumb)

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    Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    the shit beyond that is romanticized too, country to country

    my own experience, going to different states and living with a wide variety of cats is that while sure there are distinct things punctuating difference those very differences are all over and therefore the norm

    there are baseline things you'll never escape anywhere. rednecks, assholes, the vain, good people, regional foods, places to chill, so on so forth

    Rednecks is definitely something that's escapable.

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    the shit beyond that is romanticized too, country to country

    my own experience, going to different states and living with a wide variety of cats is that while sure there are distinct things punctuating difference those very differences are all over and therefore the norm

    there are baseline things you'll never escape anywhere. rednecks, assholes, the vain, good people, regional foods, places to chill, so on so forth

    But you are talking about the most environmental figurants -- basically, the potential objects that are catalyzed by one's perception and attention.

    If you think that "rednecks" and "assholes" are some of the primary, universal qualities of life, that isn't some grand statement on objectivity; you're just saying "this is how I see the world, everyone else sees the world this way too."

    Have you never noticed that people have different senses of humor? That folks have different priorities, or desires, or modes of approaching a problem? People approach life in entirely different ways -- you can name as many things as you want, but all it's doing is showing to me that you don't, on a fundamental level, grasp how thought and concept could differ from one individual to another.

    The thing I linked is super short -- it's like a page, and it's very easy to read and understand. I'm still getting the feeling that you haven't read it.

    edit: and romanticizing does have a bad connotation because it implies a level of self-delusion, but that's not even my concern. My concern is that you seem to be living a life where the most physical, banal things occupy the mainstay of your perception, which pretty rudely shunts your own thoughts and beliefs into the background.

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    IloveslimesIloveslimes Everett, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I quit my job in Japan due to my employers being bullying assholes, moved back to my mom's place in Spokane to find work. That lasted about 3 weeks because her husband is an asshole.
    Moved up to my dad's place outside of Sandpoint, Idaho. It's beautiful, but his place is a converted barn with wood heat and the well busted, so all the water is from the creek and not safe for consumption. This sucks, but the car I was using (I sold mine before leaving for Japan) totally died and I was screwed living 30 minutes from town without a car.
    So, I moved over to Lynnwood and I'm staying with a friend, but I have to find a better job very soon because I have about a month and a half until we agreed I'd leave. In hindsight, I should have sucked it up more in Japan and saved up more money. But at the time I was so extremely stressed at the job that it was making me sick.

    I'd like to hear more about this. My wife is really pushing the "Move to Japan" issue with me right now.

    Go on the JET Program. I did that previously and had a great time. I can't really recommend any of the private companies. Just ask if you want more details.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2010
    haha environmental figurants
    potential objects catalyzed by perception

    hoo boy

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Druhim, would you please explain what your problem is with my using polysyllabic words? They're not even esoteric or obtuse; I don't think there's anyone on here that can't understand me.

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    they're observations

    i don't define life by the bad parts, in the same sentence i mention good cats and other stuff

    hell, with the benefit of having some crazy shit happening earlier on i'd define life by a different idea of losing focus on purpose. these last three years were unfocused anger and just getting out of the shell in an evolve or die manner. now the lack of focus is leveled at dwelling on things or compounding problems and just taking in what i see instead of getting hung up on definition and indoctrinated into prefabricated systems of thought that have me writing off this or that

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    CogliostroCogliostro Marginal Opinions Spring, TXRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Is he from Texas or something?

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    AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Druhim, would you please explain what your problem is with my using polysyllabic words? They're not even esoteric or obtuse; I don't think there's anyone on here that can't understand me.

    I like your posts because I'm taking the SAT again in October

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    it's what has saved me from an otherwise boring existence! pride? that went out the window a long time ago. i've got friends that can help and have helped to this very day, and i've appreciated the shit out of it. even after all that went down out west near seattle, and the bitter nature of how that fell apart i don't hold ill will towards anybody. you'd go crazy stewing on that shit

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    SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2010
    Druhim, would you please explain what your problem is with my using polysyllabic words? They're not even esoteric or obtuse; I don't think there's anyone on here that can't understand me.

    I think the problem is it makes you sound like a turd.

    Like, a total and utter turd.

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    they're observations

    i don't define life by the bad parts, in the same sentence i mention good cats and other stuff

    hell, with the benefit of having some crazy shit happening earlier on i'd define life by a different idea of losing focus on purpose. these last three years were unfocused anger and just getting out of the shell in an evolve or die manner. now the lack of focus is leveled at dwelling on things or compounding problems and just taking in what i see instead of getting hung up on definition and indoctrinated into prefabricated systems of thought that have me writing off this or that

    I'm not saying anything about "bad parts." I'm just a little confused that you think that everyone's life and outlook is functionally the same because they all contain "good cats" and "assholes." Not only are these terms fairly amorphous, but different people can approach these things in entirely different lights -- I can't believe I need to say this, but have you noticed that the definition of "good cat" is not standardized?

    If you're playing an observer role (which is absolutely respectable), I have even more difficulty understanding how you don't think another person could be playing a different role, and how that might change their life entirely.

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    here's a more concise thought: if you spend time actively contemplating or attempting to nail down a solid train of logic with my thought process, you're gonna want to go hat shopping because you're gonna tear off all your hair

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    here's a more concise thought: if you spend time actively contemplating or attempting to nail down a solid train of logic with my thought process, you're gonna want to go hat shopping because you're gonna tear off all your hair

    Because I couldn't ever know the perspective with which you operate? Could that possibly mean that we have different approaches to life?

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    yeah, i never said that don't happen

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    the shit beyond that is romanticized too, country to country

    my own experience, going to different states and living with a wide variety of cats is that while sure there are distinct things punctuating difference those very differences are all over and therefore the norm

    there are baseline things you'll never escape anywhere. rednecks, assholes, the vain, good people, regional foods, places to chill, so on so forth

    Rednecks is definitely something that's escapable.

    Not really but I guess it depends on your definition of redneck.

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    CrashmoCrashmo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Butters wrote: »
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    the shit beyond that is romanticized too, country to country

    my own experience, going to different states and living with a wide variety of cats is that while sure there are distinct things punctuating difference those very differences are all over and therefore the norm

    there are baseline things you'll never escape anywhere. rednecks, assholes, the vain, good people, regional foods, places to chill, so on so forth

    Rednecks is definitely something that's escapable.

    Not really but I guess it depends on your definition of redneck.

    Yeah, there are dumb, racist a-holes everywhere you go.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2010
    Druhim, would you please explain what your problem is with my using polysyllabic words? They're not even esoteric or obtuse; I don't think there's anyone on here that can't understand me.

    I think the problem is it makes you sound like a turd.

    Like, a total and utter turd.

    A turd who uses language that adds nothing to the discussion but hey he recently heard them used in class by a professor so they must be important and meaningful! more important and meaningful than normal words!

    I'm all for using technical words when appropriate. If I'm talking about genetics, it is entirely appropriate to talk about alleles. Not everyone is going to understand what an allele is, but then if you don't know you're not really in a good position to be contributing to such a discussion and just as importantly it has a specific meaning that isn't really served by broader terms. But we're not having a technical discussion that at all justifies the use of silly phrases like environmental "figurants" or referring to potential objects catalyzed by perception.

    In other words, Shank talks just like someone who thinks he knows what the fuck he's talking about because he's been to a liberal arts college. I'm certainly not condemning education, even a liberal arts education. I'm just laughing at a silly kid who thinks his nonsense is any more meaningful because he's using stupid language he had reinforced by liberal arts professors that likely have their heads up their asses.

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    AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    here's a more concise thought: if you spend time actively contemplating or attempting to nail down a solid train of logic with my thought process, you're gonna want to go hat shopping because you're gonna tear off all your hair

    Because I couldn't ever know the perspective with which you operate? Could that possibly mean that we have different approaches to life?

    B-because Anjin's thought process doesn't have a solid train of logic?

    Just a number of recurring themes

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Butters wrote: »
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    the shit beyond that is romanticized too, country to country

    my own experience, going to different states and living with a wide variety of cats is that while sure there are distinct things punctuating difference those very differences are all over and therefore the norm

    there are baseline things you'll never escape anywhere. rednecks, assholes, the vain, good people, regional foods, places to chill, so on so forth

    Rednecks is definitely something that's escapable.

    Not really but I guess it depends on your definition of redneck.

    yeah, take seattle for example. lot of ignorant and annoying folks there so hellbent on stating how liberal they are instead of being a fleshed out person. i remember heading back to the car after a nice dinner at this burger joint looking at this stop sign that had "BUSH" spray painted on it as if to say "STOP BUSH"

    shit was hilarious

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    STOP BUSH, dude's going 50 in a 25

    there are kids walking around, jesus christ dude!

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Crashmo wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    the shit beyond that is romanticized too, country to country

    my own experience, going to different states and living with a wide variety of cats is that while sure there are distinct things punctuating difference those very differences are all over and therefore the norm

    there are baseline things you'll never escape anywhere. rednecks, assholes, the vain, good people, regional foods, places to chill, so on so forth

    Rednecks is definitely something that's escapable.

    Not really but I guess it depends on your definition of redneck.

    Yeah, there are dumb, racist a-holes everywhere you go.

    You're not necessarily a racist a-hole if you're a redneck if you ask me. Just some folks are real simple and they can live in any neighborhood or climate.

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Druhim wrote: »
    Druhim, would you please explain what your problem is with my using polysyllabic words? They're not even esoteric or obtuse; I don't think there's anyone on here that can't understand me.

    I think the problem is it makes you sound like a turd.

    Like, a total and utter turd.

    A turd who uses language that adds nothing to the discussion but hey he recently heard them used in class by a professor so they must be important and meaningful! more important and meaningful than normal words!

    I'm all for using technical words when appropriate. If I'm talking about genetics, it is entirely appropriate to talk about alleles. Not everyone is going to understand what an allele is, but then if you don't know you're not really in a good position to be contributing to such a discussion and just as importantly it has a specific meaning that isn't really served by broader terms. But we're not having a technical discussion that at all justifies the use of silly phrases like environmental "figurants" or referring to potential objects catalyzed by perception.

    In other words, Shank talks just like someone who thinks he knows what the fuck he's talking about because he's been to a liberal arts college. I'm certainly not condemning education, even a liberal arts education. I'm just laughing at a silly kid who thinks his nonsense is any more meaningful because he's using stupid language he had reinforced by liberal arts professors that likely have their heads up their asses.

    I have, without exception, never heard a single term that I used in this conversation from a professor, nor have I studied this subject in any class. Every single term is either (A) of my own invention for the purpose of easy comprehension or (B) derived from my personal reading (i.e. reading done outside of class).

    It isn't nonsense. Rather than use less elucidatory terms that would describe the point without effectively summarizing it, I opt to use the words that most effectively and concisely state the point I attempt to convey. If you think that I'm using them to sound more "important" or "meaningful," I'd say that is, more than anything, indicative of your own thoughts. When you see someone using an effective and wholly comprehensible term, you leap to this place where that person is immediately trying to sound more "important" or "meaningful" than you. This sounds to me like a very negative and victimized place from which to approach a conversation.

    This, combined with the fact that you make value judgments about liberal arts education and professors, makes me think that you might possess something of an anti-academic bend. I understand that you don't feel as though you do, but please do consider the fact that you scoff and immediately close off when any detectable trace of academia or didacticism (lower-case "d") enters the conversation.

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    LorahaloLorahalo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Now how much faster would typing that have been if you used smaller words?

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Lorahalo wrote: »
    Now how much faster would typing that have been if you used smaller words?

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say just as fast, if not slower.

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    fludity of thought is the name of the game for me

    depends how i'm feeling that day, what i can think of that i've noticed

    it'll happen, maybe it's catharsis or whatever, but it's something not worth reading into

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    LorahaloLorahalo Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Lorahalo wrote: »
    Now how much faster would typing that have been if you used smaller words?

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say just as fast, if not slower.

    You'd probably be wrong.

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    SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2010
    Lorahalo wrote: »
    Lorahalo wrote: »
    Now how much faster would typing that have been if you used smaller words?

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say just as fast, if not slower.

    You'd probably be wrong.

    He'd certainly save on time wasted leafing through a thesaurus looking for synonyms.

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    pillowpillow Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Hey shank I'm going to jump in and make fun of your words

    look guys he's using words

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    RinderRinder Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I want to be a word-smith.

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    HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Lorahalo wrote: »
    Lorahalo wrote: »
    Now how much faster would typing that have been if you used smaller words?

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say just as fast, if not slower.

    You'd probably be wrong.

    He'd certainly save on time wasted leafing through a thesaurus looking for synonyms.

    glossary, language reference book, lexicon, onomasticon, reference book, sourcebook, storehouse of words, terminology, treasury of words, vocabulary, word list

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    next place i'd like to see more of? georgia. ATL and the surrounding areas are some shit i'd like to knock out

    a little bit of oregon, LA, NY and maybe texas. given enough time and these last few years, those are the big ones in the states i'd like to say having traveled on a bus from washington to michigan over two days

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I did not use a thesaurus or a dictionary for any of my posts (although I did look up "didacticism" to make sure that it didn't just mean the movement "Didacticism"). I'm writing in the most perfectly natural way I know.
    pillow wrote: »
    Hey shank I'm going to jump in and make fun of your words

    look guys he's using words

    D: pillow I can never make you happy

    pillow what do I have to do to eoppsk efjje silopsin titinlool barlarstiboom

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