Now that I've finished catching up on the thread, I'll stop arguing about quickscoping because it's obvious that you are dead set on your hate for it. I'll just say that all of you who think it's "easy auto-aim kills" should really try it out yourselves and see how wrong you really are about it being so easy.
I think the MW2 community complains way too much. The only things I think really need addressing in future games are:
1) Lag/Host advantage. It's no coincidence that 90% of the youtube videos you see of beast players, they are host.
2) Commando. Teleporting through bullets is BS. My fix would be to simply make knife attacks be interrupted if they take damage. Then knifing would still be the quick and silent kill from behind that they should be, without the bullrushing through a hail of bullets BS that it currently is.
As for grenade launchers, I've never come across a guy that does any better with them than any other method of playing. If they don't one-hit-kill, they are pretty much dead during reload.
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0Replace4DisplaceThe best girls are ships and guns.Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
I can do it easily. I choose not to because it's fucking annoying and obnoxious. I prefer to use the sniper rifles as they were intended.
And where the fuck did you get your facts from? 90% of them are hosts? Show me a decent sized pool of videos where you can show with proof that they are hosts, and that that is the sole reason they do well. I can go fucking 40-1 every game with a 3-bar connection, it's not that big of a difference. The videos you see of Machinima players doing well are taken from a large pool of games that they record. If I selectively pulled from a bunch of games I've had (if I had a capture card, anyways) I would easily make it onto Machinima. It's not hard to do well in this game.
If they die during reload, they are terrible with a tube. Tap Y, shoot him with bullets.
I don't know. I would have to see how much it assists you.
But toning it down would be nice.
It doesn't assist you very much at all. Go and try it and you'll see.
In a game where all the other guns have no sway and little recoil, and can pick off people across the map with ease, while snipers have to fight with sway when hardscoping, or learn a very hard to learn skill in order to quickscope, you guys just sound silly to me to complain about snipers.
If a guy beat you with a sniper rifle, chances are very good that he would just demolish you even worse if he were to use your "non-cheap" guns.
The "skill" of quick scoping has almost no correlation to the way the game is meant to be played.
You mean as a videogame? o_O
There are plenty of unrealistic things in this game, including many your holy self probably takes advantage of.
1) Marathon. Noone in real life can sprint forever.
2) Scavenger. Not every enemy you kill had a claymore, or whatever else you are resupplying.
Should I bother listing more?
None of those auto-aim a kill for you bro. Argument moot.
Yup, let's see you make a video of you quickscoping then. If it "auto-aim kills" for you, you should be able to do it with high consistency. Stop acting as if it's abusing the game doing all the work for you, when it very much isn't.
Really, the aim assist you are complaining about can happen just the same with other guns, not just sniper rifles. Difference is that if the sniper rifle misses or gets a hitmarker, the reload and recoil makes it much harder to finish the job than your "non-cheap" automatic rifles.
"hurr make a video hurrrrrr"
Listen goose, not everybody here has a fucking HDPVR. Any dumbass can pick up an Intervention and learn how to time it to where the auto-aim does the work for him in under an hour. The reason why you see videos of it everywhere where people do well is because it is overpowered.
Anyways, can we keep the quickscoping argument out of this thread? It saddens me that we used to be so non-aggressive, and then these kids came in and tried to defend their "pro tactics".
Listen goose, I didn't read this thread again for a few hours and responded to the person talking to me before reading through the multiple pages that have passed by.
And I never said anything about HDPVR or anything. Use a camcorder. I don't care about the quality of the vid. I just wanna see a video of one of you proving that "Any dumbass can pick up an Intervention and learn how to time it to where the auto-aim does the work for him in under an hour. If you are gonna make those claims and bash Dubs for making his videos, I think it's a completely fair request.
And excuse us for actually discussing something about the game other than pages upon pages of complaining about noob toobing.
I can do it easily. I choose not to because it's fucking annoying and obnoxious. I prefer to use the sniper rifles as they were intended.
And where the fuck did you get your facts from? 90% of them are hosts? Show me a decent sized pool of videos where you can show with proof that they are hosts, and that that is the sole reason they do well. I can go fucking 40-1 every game with a 3-bar connection, it's not that big of a difference. The videos you see of Machinima players doing well are taken from a large pool of games that they record. If I selectively pulled from a bunch of games I've had (if I had a capture card, anyways) I would easily make it onto Machinima. It's not hard to do well in this game.
If they die during reload, they are terrible with a tube. Tap Y, shoot him with bullets.
If you can do it easily, then I give you props, because you are probably better at it than me. But if your idea of doing it easily is barely going positive in a game while doing it, then your definition of "easily" is much different than mine.
I never said that the reason they do so well is solely because they are host. I'm sure that people like SeaNanners are 100x better players than myself. I'm just saying that it's hard to remember a video where I saw the player noticably lagging, and I never see a witcher teleport through SeaNanner's bullets.
I'm pretty sure that if they miss a tube, then tap Y and try to get the kill, there's a good chance that the other guy is already aiming down his sight and filling them full of bullets. I'm just saying that tubing isn't as bad as everyone complains about.
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0Replace4DisplaceThe best girls are ships and guns.Registered Userregular
I can do it easily. I choose not to because it's fucking annoying and obnoxious. I prefer to use the sniper rifles as they were intended.
And where the fuck did you get your facts from? 90% of them are hosts? Show me a decent sized pool of videos where you can show with proof that they are hosts, and that that is the sole reason they do well. I can go fucking 40-1 every game with a 3-bar connection, it's not that big of a difference. The videos you see of Machinima players doing well are taken from a large pool of games that they record. If I selectively pulled from a bunch of games I've had (if I had a capture card, anyways) I would easily make it onto Machinima. It's not hard to do well in this game.
If they die during reload, they are terrible with a tube. Tap Y, shoot him with bullets.
If you can do it easily, then I give you props, because you are probably better at it than me. But if your idea of doing it easily is barely going positive in a game while doing it, then your definition of "easily" is much different than mine.
I never said that the reason they do so well is solely because they are host. I'm sure that people like SeaNanners are 100x better players than myself. I'm just saying that it's hard to remember a video where I saw the player noticably lagging, and I never see a witcher teleport through SeaNanner's bullets.
I'm pretty sure that if they miss a tube, then tap Y and try to get the kill, there's a good chance that the other guy is already aiming down his sight and filling them full of bullets. I'm just saying that tubing isn't as bad as everyone complains about.
Man, I can't believe how wrong you are about so many things.
The reason you (almost) never see SeaNanners or Hutch or BlameTruth or whoever the fuck posting games where they're lagging like crazy or being chain-commando'd is because they're uploading their good games. If there's a witch on the other team, they're not going to get good footage.
I can't count the number of times I've had a tube miss, managed to get back to the rifle itself, and then kill the person I was aiming at. But that's probably because I'm not a fucking retard who walks around with the tube out.
Svevin please just stop. When people in this thread complain about noob tubes it's not because they aren't skilled enough to deal with it. If your intent is to show folks here how awesome you are you should just play with some of us instead of trying to antagonize folks with this silly goose-like attitude.
If your intent is to just be antagonistic please go hit up gamefaqs or some other board. Or you can continue to call us silly geese for complaining about aspects of the game that are universally complained about.
I have a problem guys. I can't join a lobby with anything less than 125ms ping. This basically means that my games consist of very noticeable framerate lag, which is obviously detrimental to my success. My NAT type is Open, and multiple online speed tests indicate that my internet speed is in the 15-20mbps range. Also, average ping tests indicate around 20-30ms. So why the fuck can I only get in lagged up lobbies?
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joshgotroDeviled EggThe Land of REAL CHILIRegistered Userregular
edited June 2010
They could both go away. They aren't wanted. Like pickled eggs.
Svevin please just stop. When people in this thread complain about noob tubes it's not because they aren't skilled enough to deal with it. If your intent is to show folks here how awesome you are you should just play with some of us instead of trying to antagonize folks with this silly goose-like attitude.
If your intent is to just be antagonistic please go hit up gamefaqs or some other board. Or you can continue to call us silly geese for complaining about aspects of the game that are universally complained about.
I haven't said I'm awesome or said anyone sucks. And I'm not trying to antagonize anyone. In fact, this whole discussion started with me defending Dubs after people start bashing him for him posting his video. And I'd like to play with you guys, but you all play on 360 while I have the game on ps3.
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It feels like its taking more bullets to kill because the ACR does less damage than the SCAR :P
Facts. You can use the to prove anything.
I checked after I posted that and realized my problem, but I lit shit up with my ACR on Terminal so I forgive the gun. They let my harrier linger, but were quick to take out the Pavelow. Then I rushed and blew my second Harrier, and couldn't get my edge back. I did the same thing earlier on Wasteland as well. I wish I could train myself not to push to get a killstreak and just wait for it to happen.
I have that: it's called being bad. Set killstreaks, forget you even have them, suddenly a pleasant surprise quite some time in the future!
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0Replace4DisplaceThe best girls are ships and guns.Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
I remember thinking I had no killstreaks left since I was playing without them for a while, then went to sleep. But apparently I had turned 7-11-25 on right before I went to bed.
Wake up, play a game. Get to 7
"Oh what, Harriers? Alright"
Harriers tear shit up
"Oh an AC-130, cool!"
AC-130 gets me like 22 kills, the 14th of which makes me go
Really, the aim assist you are complaining about can happen just the same with other guns, not just sniper rifles. Difference is that if the sniper rifle misses or gets a hitmarker, the reload and recoil makes it much harder to finish the job than your "non-cheap" automatic rifles.
Well, that and that it's absurdly likely that if the sniper rifle hits, it's a one-hit insta-kill. Aim assist plus one-hit kill is really the problem here, not the aim assist itself.
There's a reason you don't see people quick-scoping with the M21. At least I don't.
I remember thinking I had no killstreaks left since I was playing without them for a while, then went to sleep. But apparently I had turned 7-11-25 on right before I went to bed.
Wake up, play a game. Get to 7
"Oh what, Harriers? Alright"
Harriers tear shit up
"Oh an AC-130, cool!"
AC-130 gets me like 22 kills, the 14th of which makes me go
"Oh what, haha"
It's fun!
That's how I have gotten all of my nukes except the first one. After getting my first nuke like the week of release I was like "this is gay as fuck, nukes are gay as fuck", but for some reason I would put the nuke on and log off, and wake up the next day, just be playing and see "tactical nuke" ..
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0Replace4DisplaceThe best girls are ships and guns.Registered Userregular
How did this thread go from discussing the awesomeness of this game and the satisfaction of being shot in the face repeatedly when you're new... to a silly-goose slapping fest?
All the snipers are garbage compared to the M40A3 of CoD4. Nail drive the thing was.
e: Because silly geese decided it's a good idea to yell at each other.
e2: The whole anti-quick scoping thing has really turned me off to people that do it to me. Then I have to remind myself that doing it on PC is much more difficult. If Svevin thinks it takes skill on console he should make an attempt on PC.
So I sucked it up and got a better DL limit. Back baby!
Next time I party up with you guys I have one request: everyone plays a randomly generated class. You hold the thumbstick down and close your eyes, then press A for every gun, attachment, equipment, special grenade and perk slot. Then we go make outrageous killcams.
0Replace4DisplaceThe best girls are ships and guns.Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
What if we get Bling? Do we get a second randomized attachment or do we get Bling with a single attachment? With my luck, I'll get a silenced Intervention with OMA, Danger Close, and SitRep. Tacticool Insertions and smoke.
What if we get Bling? Do we get a second randomized attachment or do we get Bling with a single attachment? With my luck, I'll get a silenced Intervention with OMA, Danger Close, and SitRep. Tacticool Insertions and smoke.
I like this idea.
This is a great idea for a private match also. Until someone cheats.
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What if we get Bling? Do we get a second randomized attachment or do we get Bling with a single attachment? With my luck, I'll get a silenced Intervention with OMA, Danger Close, and SitRep. Tacticool Insertions and smoke.
I like this idea.
This is a great idea for a private match also. Until someone cheats.
"I swear guys! I randomly got a FAMAS with RDS, an Extended Mags AA-12, Scavenger, Stopping Power, and Ninja, with Claymores and stun grenades! Honest!"
Sorry about leaving, guys. I had someone throw a fucking fit here and I had to go take care of it. Anyway, I'll be on XBL if any of you guys want to play some more. I might be in Red Dead, but I'll leave if it's shootin'-mans-time.
Also, my random setup wasn't that bad. M4 w/ no attachment, Akimbo M93's, throwing knife, stuns, marathon, lightweight, scrambler. And then we played search. Search. Wtf, Scat? Again, poor twm got the shaft.
Sorry about leaving, guys. I had someone throw a fucking fit here and I had to go take care of it. Anyway, I'll be on XBL if any of you guys want to play some more. I might be in Red Dead, but I'll leave if it's shootin'-mans-time.
Also, my random setup wasn't that bad. M4 w/ no attachment, Akimbo M93's, throwing knife, stuns, marathon, lightweight, scrambler. And then we played search. Search. Wtf, Scat? Again, poor twm got the shaft.
Does this mean i'm grounded for the week?
Dubs you should join the PA meta-tag, it's easier to send you a invite once we look through there. I think the tag is - A PA MW2 Clan and PA MW2 - so try those. Unless you wanna send me a FR that's fine too.
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PaperLuigi44My amazement is at maximum capacity.Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
Pfff ha ha, this random class thing seems interesting.
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I think the MW2 community complains way too much. The only things I think really need addressing in future games are:
1) Lag/Host advantage. It's no coincidence that 90% of the youtube videos you see of beast players, they are host.
2) Commando. Teleporting through bullets is BS. My fix would be to simply make knife attacks be interrupted if they take damage. Then knifing would still be the quick and silent kill from behind that they should be, without the bullrushing through a hail of bullets BS that it currently is.
As for grenade launchers, I've never come across a guy that does any better with them than any other method of playing. If they don't one-hit-kill, they are pretty much dead during reload.
And where the fuck did you get your facts from? 90% of them are hosts? Show me a decent sized pool of videos where you can show with proof that they are hosts, and that that is the sole reason they do well. I can go fucking 40-1 every game with a 3-bar connection, it's not that big of a difference. The videos you see of Machinima players doing well are taken from a large pool of games that they record. If I selectively pulled from a bunch of games I've had (if I had a capture card, anyways) I would easily make it onto Machinima. It's not hard to do well in this game.
If they die during reload, they are terrible with a tube. Tap Y, shoot him with bullets.
Listen goose, I didn't read this thread again for a few hours and responded to the person talking to me before reading through the multiple pages that have passed by.
And I never said anything about HDPVR or anything. Use a camcorder. I don't care about the quality of the vid. I just wanna see a video of one of you proving that "Any dumbass can pick up an Intervention and learn how to time it to where the auto-aim does the work for him in under an hour. If you are gonna make those claims and bash Dubs for making his videos, I think it's a completely fair request.
And excuse us for actually discussing something about the game other than pages upon pages of complaining about noob toobing.
If you can do it easily, then I give you props, because you are probably better at it than me. But if your idea of doing it easily is barely going positive in a game while doing it, then your definition of "easily" is much different than mine.
I never said that the reason they do so well is solely because they are host. I'm sure that people like SeaNanners are 100x better players than myself. I'm just saying that it's hard to remember a video where I saw the player noticably lagging, and I never see a witcher teleport through SeaNanner's bullets.
I'm pretty sure that if they miss a tube, then tap Y and try to get the kill, there's a good chance that the other guy is already aiming down his sight and filling them full of bullets. I'm just saying that tubing isn't as bad as everyone complains about.
Man, I can't believe how wrong you are about so many things.
The reason you (almost) never see SeaNanners or Hutch or BlameTruth or whoever the fuck posting games where they're lagging like crazy or being chain-commando'd is because they're uploading their good games. If there's a witch on the other team, they're not going to get good footage.
I can't count the number of times I've had a tube miss, managed to get back to the rifle itself, and then kill the person I was aiming at. But that's probably because I'm not a fucking retard who walks around with the tube out.
If your intent is to just be antagonistic please go hit up gamefaqs or some other board. Or you can continue to call us silly geese for complaining about aspects of the game that are universally complained about.
( pickled eggs)
I haven't said I'm awesome or said anyone sucks. And I'm not trying to antagonize anyone. In fact, this whole discussion started with me defending Dubs after people start bashing him for him posting his video. And I'd like to play with you guys, but you all play on 360 while I have the game on ps3.
Gratz?
josh, you're definitely not good looking if you smell like cheese
also, early night tonight, anyone on?
"I don't even bother to use my brain any more! There's nothing left in it"
I ran that day man.
Edit: 6 man group right now. hurry.
I MEAN NO
Well beside Vol using wall-hacks to pad his K/D all the time.
edit: holy shit Japan, awesome
hahahahaha yes
I have that: it's called being bad. Set killstreaks, forget you even have them, suddenly a pleasant surprise quite some time in the future!
Wake up, play a game. Get to 7
"Oh what, Harriers? Alright"
Harriers tear shit up
"Oh an AC-130, cool!"
AC-130 gets me like 22 kills, the 14th of which makes me go
"Oh what, haha"
It's fun!
Well, that and that it's absurdly likely that if the sniper rifle hits, it's a one-hit insta-kill. Aim assist plus one-hit kill is really the problem here, not the aim assist itself.
There's a reason you don't see people quick-scoping with the M21. At least I don't.
That's how I have gotten all of my nukes except the first one. After getting my first nuke like the week of release I was like "this is gay as fuck, nukes are gay as fuck", but for some reason I would put the nuke on and log off, and wake up the next day, just be playing and see "tactical nuke" ..
3DSFF: 5026-4429-6577
e: Because silly geese decided it's a good idea to yell at each other.
e2: The whole anti-quick scoping thing has really turned me off to people that do it to me. Then I have to remind myself that doing it on PC is much more difficult. If Svevin thinks it takes skill on console he should make an attempt on PC.
Next time I party up with you guys I have one request: everyone plays a randomly generated class. You hold the thumbstick down and close your eyes, then press A for every gun, attachment, equipment, special grenade and perk slot. Then we go make outrageous killcams.
hAmmONd IsnT A mAin TAnk
I like this idea.
This is a great idea for a private match also. Until someone cheats.
"I swear guys! I randomly got a FAMAS with RDS, an Extended Mags AA-12, Scavenger, Stopping Power, and Ninja, with Claymores and stun grenades! Honest!"
I'll get on.
hAmmONd IsnT A mAin TAnk
Riot shield
Stinger
Tac insert
Flash grenade
Scavanger
Cold blooded
Steady aim
Then scat decides we are playing Search.
To be fair, I did get a game winning kill cam with the shield. But it was all down hill after that.
Fuck playing that, random or no.
Also, my random setup wasn't that bad. M4 w/ no attachment, Akimbo M93's, throwing knife, stuns, marathon, lightweight, scrambler. And then we played search. Search. Wtf, Scat? Again, poor twm got the shaft.
"I don't even bother to use my brain any more! There's nothing left in it"
Does this mean i'm grounded for the week?
Dubs you should join the PA meta-tag, it's easier to send you a invite once we look through there. I think the tag is - A PA MW2 Clan and PA MW2 - so try those. Unless you wanna send me a FR that's fine too.