CorehealerThe ApothecaryThe softer edge of the universe.Registered Userregular
edited July 2010
Reasons to play non lightsaber wielding classes:
Trooper: See Hope Cinematic trailer. Nuff said.
Smuggler: Smugglers epitomize adventure, gunslinging, alternate semi illegal methods of combating the bad guys, and being the all round jack of all trades. Also, Han shot Greedo first so, roll that shit!
Bounty Hunter: See Boba Fett and jetpacks. Also rockets. And some badass Mandalorian looking armor sets. All the badassery of a trooper with none of the scruples.
Imperial Agent: I'm interested in rolling one of these after a Jedi for the story they have set up for these guys, as well as the allure of mixing illegal and covert tactics with high tech and sniper rifles. It takes balls to impersonate a crime lord so you can then wiretap a Hutt's palace for your equally threatening Imperial handler. Constant exterior danger and intrigue.
I'm not rolling a Jedi for the saber per se, but because I too enjoyed the old space wizard style of Jedi presentation and because the thought of righting wrongs across the galaxy as a robed female Twi'lek, while occasionally sticking my saber in some mans, just suits me fine. Robes and peaceful communion with the Force all the way.
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BloodshedI smoke my friendsDown to the FilterRegistered Userregular
Also, it seems like they're pushing the Jedi/Sith classes towards the tank/healing roles... so if you're going to have an absurd amount of two classes, it's nice if it's the tank/healing classes at least
Actually yah, it's kind of a master stroke. If you know a huge swath of your population is going to play Jedi and Sith, then put the Jedi/Sith in to roles a lot of people don't necessarily prefer in other games. SW:TOR may be the first MMO of all time that has an over abundance of tanks and healers.
Trooper: See Hope Cinematic trailer. Nuff said.
Smuggler: Smugglers epitomize adventure, gunslinging, alternate semi illegal methods of combating the bad guys, and being the all round jack of all trades. Also, Han shot Greedo first so, roll that shit!
Bounty Hunter: See Boba Fett and jetpacks. Also rockets. And some badass Mandalorian looking armor sets. All the badassery of a trooper with none of the scruples.
Imperial Agent: I'm interested in rolling one of these after a Jedi for the story they have set up for these guys, as well as the allure of mixing illegal and covert tactics with high tech and sniper rifles. It takes balls to impersonate a crime lord so you can then wiretap a Hutt's palace for your equally threatening Imperial handler. Constant exterior danger and intrigue.
I'm not rolling a Jedi for the saber per se, but because I too enjoyed the old space wizard style of Jedi presentation and because the thought of righting wrongs across the galaxy as a robed female Twi'lek, while occasionally sticking my saber in some mans, just suits me fine. Robes and peaceful communion with the Force all the way.
I remember from that Darth Hater video interview when the developer was talking about how the various non-jedi/sith classes and thier stories plays like.
I think he said something along the lines of that an Imperial Agent is something like a spy novel, Bounty hunter's a Western, Smuggler is a crazy, high-adventure thing (I'm hoping something like Crimson Skies/ 30s-40s Pulp novels) and I'm guessing Troopers will be a war movie.
I wonder how much of a good guy you can be on the Empire side.
Because I really don't want to just go around murdering children or anything. Killing evil guys? Sure. I'd be happy going to that guy whose raped someone and setting him on fire as punishment. But I don't want to be a complete dick just to be a complete dick.
If I can do that on the Sith side, I'd definitely be interested.
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BloodshedI smoke my friendsDown to the FilterRegistered Userregular
edited July 2010
Sith don't really think of themselves as "Evil", per say.
They just happen to believe in "Might makes Right" and Survival of the Fittest.
That's a good thing to remember when you choose to RP an Imperial toon.
GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
edited July 2010
Yah, I hate that view of the empire. The empire, and Sith, aren't out raping babies every day. They believe in order, order by force if necessary. They also feel that "might makes right", as Bloodshed says. The strongest should lead, etc. etc.
Yah, I hate that view of the empire. The empire, and Sith, aren't out raping babies every day. They believe in order, order by force if necessary. They also feel that "might makes right", as Bloodshed says. The strongest should lead, etc. etc.
And raping babies. But only once during the week and twice on Sundays.
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GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
Yah, I hate that view of the empire. The empire, and Sith, aren't out raping babies every day. They believe in order, order by force if necessary. They also feel that "might makes right", as Bloodshed says. The strongest should lead, etc. etc.
And raping babies. But only once during the week and twice on Sundays.
Actually there's a special baby raping holiday that Sith have.
Yah, I hate that view of the empire. The empire, and Sith, aren't out raping babies every day. They believe in order, order by force if necessary. They also feel that "might makes right", as Bloodshed says. The strongest should lead, etc. etc.
And raping babies. But only once during the week and twice on Sundays.
Actually there's a special baby raping holiday that Sith have.
sign me up for the empire good sirs.
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BloodshedI smoke my friendsDown to the FilterRegistered Userregular
edited July 2010
Ugh. Every time I see the phrase "Baby raping" this pops into my head and makes me a little ill.
Note: This is not a joke link or some disturbing picture.
GnomeTankWhat the what?Portland, OregonRegistered Userregular
edited July 2010
Yah, there is a special place in hell for people like that...even if you don't believe in hell, you have to figure one will be created just for douchebags like that. It's like the universe evening itself out.
One of my best friends was in prison for a couple of years for some non-violent drug offenses, and he tells horror stories about what happens to guys that go to prison for messing with kids. Even hardened criminals, for the most part, believe children are 100% off limits, and they don't take kindly at all to guys in the pen for touching or raping little kids.
I hope they make the smuggler's campaign as pulpy as possible. I've always loved the obvious pulpiness of the original trilogy. If this game turns out to be good I'll be a smuggler on my first day for sure.
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edited July 2010
Has he expressed interest in this game? He didn't seem too hyped up on Galaxies when it was set to come out. It was something about the MMO genre not being the proper pace and style for Star Wars. Which, it makes sense.
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One of my best friends was in prison for a couple of years for some non-violent drug offenses, and he tells horror stories about what happens to guys that go to prison for messing with kids. Even hardened criminals, for the most part, believe children are 100% off limits, and they don't take kindly at all to guys in the pen for touching or raping little kids.
This is extremely off topic, but it always bothers when people applaud this shit, as if they should be lauded for raping somebody. I'm happy enough calling everyone involved a piece of shit and moving on.
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Has he expressed interest in this game? He didn't seem too hyped up on Galaxies when it was set to come out. It was something about the MMO genre not being the proper pace and style for Star Wars. Which, it makes sense.
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
edited July 2010
Those comics are ancient.
We have way more information compared to back then. Things are coming into focus. Back then it was abstract. It's easier to like the idea of something, but knowing more and more of what it is could change that.
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Burden of ProofYou three boys picked a beautiful hill to die on.Registered Userregular
edited July 2010
I really just posted them because I liked them.
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As I recall in one of the podcasts they did a long time ago was that Mike loved the art style of Kotor and that it nailed the Star Wars universe. He's also a giant neckbeard for Star Wars in general, so I'm guessing we'll hear something about it from them around open beta.
Pvponline has people? That's like the Garfield of webcomics these days.
(mind you, I read it myself occasionally, I'm just saying I doubt people who would call themselves Kurtz' "people" would be a huge pvp group, or even identify themselves as such)
Sith don't really think of themselves as "Evil", per say.
They just happen to believe in "Might makes Right" and Survival of the Fittest.
That's a good thing to remember when you choose to RP an Imperial toon.
Sith blow up planets and murder countless billions of innocent human beings. They are murderers and tyrants in the official films and in Knights of the Old Republic.
If that's what the empire is about, I want no part of it.
But, like I said, I would be completely okay with administering justice where justice is due. An eye for an eye? I'd be happy to take a leg and an arm for an eye. But not billions of innocent lives. Or even one innocent life.
Pvponline has people? That's like the Garfield of webcomics these days.
(mind you, I read it myself occasionally, I'm just saying I doubt people who would call themselves Kurtz' "people" would be a huge pvp group, or even identify themselves as such)
Back when I played WoW, PvP had about 2 guilds at most while we were fielding somewhere between 10-12 guilds, and I was in one of the primarily PvP ones. Given even numbers, they were pretty good, but we'd consistently beat them more than we lost.
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HenroidMexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered Userregular
edited July 2010
I dunno if another webcomic MMO war is a good idea. After Mike, Jerry, Porkfry, and Kara left the game / server, the whole spirit of the damn thing was lost. Few people remembered that we had rules about the PvP Online guilds (don't camp them being the big thing), fewer wanted to enforce it, and a lot of people got fucking rabid about it when I brought it up, telling me to fuck off and such.
While I think there's going to be a lot of Jedi/Sith on day one, let's not underestimate the popularity of the Bounty Hunter just yet.
I think a number of the videos I've seen make a compelling reason to roll a trooper as well.
Then again if this game still does a healer/tank/dps type thing (the E3 demonstration leads me to believe that's what it is), it's probably a good thing that the Jedi anyway can do all three roles (not sure if this is confirmed).
Yah, I hate that view of the empire. The empire, and Sith, aren't out raping babies every day. They believe in order, order by force if necessary. They also feel that "might makes right", as Bloodshed says. The strongest should lead, etc. etc.
Can't really blame people for taking this view, though. Look at the empire in the original trilogy - they're not even characterized beyond Vader and Palpatine. They're faceless, one-dimensional, intergalactic puppy-kickers.
I like the idea of adding a bit more complexity to both sides. I think if anyone can pull it off, Bioware can.
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BloodshedI smoke my friendsDown to the FilterRegistered Userregular
edited July 2010
Pretty sure there was something about being able to branch out from the Jedi path to dual-wielding lightsabers and that sounds pretty "DPS" to me.
While I think there's going to be a lot of Jedi/Sith on day one, let's not underestimate the popularity of the Bounty Hunter just yet.
I think a number of the videos I've seen make a compelling reason to roll a trooper as well.
Then again if this game still does a healer/tank/dps type thing (the E3 demonstration leads me to believe that's what it is), it's probably a good thing that the Jedi anyway can do all three roles (not sure if this is confirmed).
Weren't they even talking about all of the classes being able to fill each roll somewhat? I remember one video (maybe it was on G4) discussing Smugglers being able to toss out some heals, or Troopers doing a bit of crowd control.
And yea, after watching the E3 videos, I dropped any thought of playing a Jedi in favor of the Trooper. Looks fuckawesome.
Sith don't really think of themselves as "Evil", per say.
They just happen to believe in "Might makes Right" and Survival of the Fittest.
That's a good thing to remember when you choose to RP an Imperial toon.
Sith blow up planets and murder countless billions of innocent human beings. They are murderers and tyrants in the official films and in Knights of the Old Republic.
If that's what the empire is about, I want no part of it.
But, like I said, I would be completely okay with administering justice where justice is due. An eye for an eye? I'd be happy to take a leg and an arm for an eye. But not billions of innocent lives. Or even one innocent life.
What if, by taking the life of one innocent, you save the lives of thousands more?
What about hundreds?
Dozens?
Two?
I see the Old Republic Sith as a sort of Knight Templar. Should I end up playing as one, that's probably how I'll do it.
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Trooper: See Hope Cinematic trailer. Nuff said.
Smuggler: Smugglers epitomize adventure, gunslinging, alternate semi illegal methods of combating the bad guys, and being the all round jack of all trades. Also, Han shot Greedo first so, roll that shit!
Bounty Hunter: See Boba Fett and jetpacks. Also rockets. And some badass Mandalorian looking armor sets. All the badassery of a trooper with none of the scruples.
Imperial Agent: I'm interested in rolling one of these after a Jedi for the story they have set up for these guys, as well as the allure of mixing illegal and covert tactics with high tech and sniper rifles. It takes balls to impersonate a crime lord so you can then wiretap a Hutt's palace for your equally threatening Imperial handler. Constant exterior danger and intrigue.
I'm not rolling a Jedi for the saber per se, but because I too enjoyed the old space wizard style of Jedi presentation and because the thought of righting wrongs across the galaxy as a robed female Twi'lek, while occasionally sticking my saber in some mans, just suits me fine. Robes and peaceful communion with the Force all the way.
Def gonna roll one of those buggers.
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Actually yah, it's kind of a master stroke. If you know a huge swath of your population is going to play Jedi and Sith, then put the Jedi/Sith in to roles a lot of people don't necessarily prefer in other games. SW:TOR may be the first MMO of all time that has an over abundance of tanks and healers.
a) I like healers
b) Force Slam
c) Force Slam
d) you can lift people up and slam them into the ground using the Force
e) Force Slam
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I think Agents also get little remote droids, like what Bao-Dur had, to assist them in their awesomeness. Separate from companions.
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I remember from that Darth Hater video interview when the developer was talking about how the various non-jedi/sith classes and thier stories plays like.
I think he said something along the lines of that an Imperial Agent is something like a spy novel, Bounty hunter's a Western, Smuggler is a crazy, high-adventure thing (I'm hoping something like Crimson Skies/ 30s-40s Pulp novels) and I'm guessing Troopers will be a war movie.
Because I really don't want to just go around murdering children or anything. Killing evil guys? Sure. I'd be happy going to that guy whose raped someone and setting him on fire as punishment. But I don't want to be a complete dick just to be a complete dick.
If I can do that on the Sith side, I'd definitely be interested.
They just happen to believe in "Might makes Right" and Survival of the Fittest.
That's a good thing to remember when you choose to RP an Imperial toon.
Battletag: Kain#1658
And raping babies. But only once during the week and twice on Sundays.
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
Actually there's a special baby raping holiday that Sith have.
sign me up for the empire good sirs.
Note: This is not a joke link or some disturbing picture.
I get the humor, but thanks to this douchebag this is all that pops into my head.
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And in prison, I'm sure he gets to be the baby.
Skull fractures and all.
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One of my best friends was in prison for a couple of years for some non-violent drug offenses, and he tells horror stories about what happens to guys that go to prison for messing with kids. Even hardened criminals, for the most part, believe children are 100% off limits, and they don't take kindly at all to guys in the pen for touching or raping little kids.
Honestly, I'm hoping republic, but I do plan to play through all the classes eventually because they all have different storylines.
Also, Jedi Assholes:
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This is extremely off topic, but it always bothers when people applaud this shit, as if they should be lauded for raping somebody. I'm happy enough calling everyone involved a piece of shit and moving on.
We have way more information compared to back then. Things are coming into focus. Back then it was abstract. It's easier to like the idea of something, but knowing more and more of what it is could change that.
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setting the mmo in the old republic was a masterstroke really.
(mind you, I read it myself occasionally, I'm just saying I doubt people who would call themselves Kurtz' "people" would be a huge pvp group, or even identify themselves as such)
Sith blow up planets and murder countless billions of innocent human beings. They are murderers and tyrants in the official films and in Knights of the Old Republic.
If that's what the empire is about, I want no part of it.
But, like I said, I would be completely okay with administering justice where justice is due. An eye for an eye? I'd be happy to take a leg and an arm for an eye. But not billions of innocent lives. Or even one innocent life.
Back when I played WoW, PvP had about 2 guilds at most while we were fielding somewhere between 10-12 guilds, and I was in one of the primarily PvP ones. Given even numbers, they were pretty good, but we'd consistently beat them more than we lost.
I think a number of the videos I've seen make a compelling reason to roll a trooper as well.
Then again if this game still does a healer/tank/dps type thing (the E3 demonstration leads me to believe that's what it is), it's probably a good thing that the Jedi anyway can do all three roles (not sure if this is confirmed).
Can't really blame people for taking this view, though. Look at the empire in the original trilogy - they're not even characterized beyond Vader and Palpatine. They're faceless, one-dimensional, intergalactic puppy-kickers.
I like the idea of adding a bit more complexity to both sides. I think if anyone can pull it off, Bioware can.
Battletag: Kain#1658
Weren't they even talking about all of the classes being able to fill each roll somewhat? I remember one video (maybe it was on G4) discussing Smugglers being able to toss out some heals, or Troopers doing a bit of crowd control.
And yea, after watching the E3 videos, I dropped any thought of playing a Jedi in favor of the Trooper. Looks fuckawesome.
What if, by taking the life of one innocent, you save the lives of thousands more?
What about hundreds?
Dozens?
Two?
I see the Old Republic Sith as a sort of Knight Templar. Should I end up playing as one, that's probably how I'll do it.