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[SW:TOR] SPACE COMBAT CONFIRMED

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Are there any sites that have done beta previews or beta impressions articles? Official stuff is nice to look at, but its always doctored up to show the best face. I'd be interested to read some information from 3rd party sources.

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  • Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Bioware seems to have some game scenarios that they love revisiting in all their games. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nar Shaddaa resembles Omega although I hope they can go without the obligatory
    Plague Zone

    When I first discovered that section of gameplay I blacked out and woke up 4 hours later covered in drool after suffering a debilitating Neverwinter flashback. Even typing it out, I can hear that same 10 seconds of looping ambient sound even now.
    I also wouldn't be surprised if the Shadow Broker is close bros with G0-T0

    There is only one rule on Nar Shaddaa...
    Don't fuck with G0-T0.

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  • devCharlesdevCharles Gainesville, FLRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I wouldn't mind finding out how big each planet is. I'm curious if they are actually as big as Kalimdor as some people claimed before. That would be pretty awesome, provided they balance scale with content. By that I mean large enough to give the illusion of a large size, but not so big that they add terrain to inflate the scale.

    The guys from Bioware did mention that planets would be different sizes, so I'm guessing we'll get a mixture. Some will probably be pretty huge while the starter worlds, for example, are supposed to be pretty small by comparison. I'm guessing the PVP worlds will likely not be quite as large, so you'll actually be finding people to fight and not just run aimlessly all over.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Hopefully Nar Shadaa isn't just boring rectangle paths and blocks of buildings as it has been in like every fucking game ever. And actually has points where it's a crowded city and has some fucking character.

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2010
    Even if the PvP worlds are the largest ever, finding people that want to PvP will not be hard if designed right. They will be around objective points that must be captured or defended.

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Do they even have open world PvP? I was under the impression that it's all going to be instanced battlegrounds sort of PvP.

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  • devCharlesdevCharles Gainesville, FLRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    How the PVP will be handled remains to be seen. I'm hoping for PVP and PVE servers though.

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  • AstaleAstale Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    PvE servers would still be able to do battlegrounds right? Cause I like pvp but I hate wandering dickheads who like to take max level characters against lowbies and call it 'pvp'.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I will be shocked if PvP is any good in this game.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Edit - Er, ha, I thought I was in the WoW thread. Fuuuuuuck.

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2010
    Astale wrote: »
    PvE servers would still be able to do battlegrounds right? Cause I like pvp but I hate wandering dickheads who like to take max level characters against lowbies and call it 'pvp'.

    I am not a big fan of that too.

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  • NyhtNyht Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Sorry if this was asked but does anyone have any information on the consular for someone who can't look it up from work?

    The Hope trailer plus the double-bladed lightsaber (and from what I understand, only the consulars can use them) have me wanting to play one. However, I'm curious if there is a dps option for them or if they will inevitably HAVE to heal at least some?

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  • NoxyNoxy Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    As I understand it, at level 10 you can choose a more DPS oriented build. I don't know if that means no healing or not. I would assume that it would still have support powers.

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  • NyhtNyht Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Fonjo wrote: »
    As I understand it, at level 10 you can choose a more DPS oriented build. I don't know if that means no healing or not. I would assume that it would still have support powers.

    I suppose some support powers won't be bad.

    As it stands, our group is looking to be a jedi knight tank, me doing consular dps/support, another consular doing pure healing, and a smuggler.

    Don't know yet how this will work as the game's far off but time will tell.

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  • devCharlesdevCharles Gainesville, FLRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Astale wrote: »
    PvE servers would still be able to do battlegrounds right? Cause I like pvp but I hate wandering dickheads who like to take max level characters against lowbies and call it 'pvp'.

    At the very least, there will be some planets for Battlegrounds on every server. The question is whether or not there will be PVP on every planet both sides can get to, whether or not each side can get to every planet (that's a big question I have,) and whether or not there will be server distinction.

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  • OverstrikeOverstrike Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Well I'm glad to see Nar Shaddaa in, that was one of the planets I was hoping for. Now all they need is Dantooine and I'll be set, can't really think of any others that they might release, but they could surprise us.

    As for pvp battlegrounds didn't they say there was going to be one on Alderaan right after the Hope trailer showed up? I seem to remember hearing that somewhere, but I don't think they have confirmed or denied battlegrounds on any of the other planets. Most likely there will be at least one on each of the non starting planets, if I were to take a guess.

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  • Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'm pretty Alderaan is a battleground planet.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Overstrike wrote: »
    Well I'm glad to see Nar Shaddaa in, that was one of the planets I was hoping for. Now all they need is Dantooine and I'll be set, can't really think of any others that they might release, but they could surprise us.

    Why would you want Dantooine? It's Tatooine but with grassy fields instead of sand.

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Overstrike wrote: »

    As for pvp battlegrounds didn't they say there was going to be one on Alderaan right after the Hope trailer showed up? I seem to remember hearing that somewhere, but I don't think they have confirmed or denied battlegrounds on any of the other planets. Most likely there will be at least one on each of the non starting planets, if I were to take a guess.

    I always got the impression that Alderaan will be the PvP planet, so that all the battlegrounds/PvP missions will be based on Alderaan. I don't have any facts to base this on, but that's the way their talks came across to me.

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  • NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    korodullin wrote: »
    Overstrike wrote: »
    Well I'm glad to see Nar Shaddaa in, that was one of the planets I was hoping for. Now all they need is Dantooine and I'll be set, can't really think of any others that they might release, but they could surprise us.

    Why would you want Dantooine? It's Tatooine but with grassy fields instead of sand.

    Yeah, it's not like there's a ruined/abandoned Jedi Enclave full of plot value there or anything.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    NEO|Phyte wrote: »
    korodullin wrote: »
    Overstrike wrote: »
    Well I'm glad to see Nar Shaddaa in, that was one of the planets I was hoping for. Now all they need is Dantooine and I'll be set, can't really think of any others that they might release, but they could surprise us.

    Why would you want Dantooine? It's Tatooine but with grassy fields instead of sand.

    Yeah, it's not like there's a ruined/abandoned Jedi Enclave full of plot value there or anything.

    Which was sacked and already salvaged from pretty damn hard. Let's explore ruins that are full of nothing!

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  • NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Henroid wrote: »
    NEO|Phyte wrote: »
    korodullin wrote: »
    Overstrike wrote: »
    Well I'm glad to see Nar Shaddaa in, that was one of the planets I was hoping for. Now all they need is Dantooine and I'll be set, can't really think of any others that they might release, but they could surprise us.

    Why would you want Dantooine? It's Tatooine but with grassy fields instead of sand.

    Yeah, it's not like there's a ruined/abandoned Jedi Enclave full of plot value there or anything.

    Which was sacked and already salvaged from pretty damn hard. Let's explore ruins that are full of nothing!
    Takes more than looters to remove everything of value. Place probably has a nice imprint in the Force. Isn't that why Master Grouchypants went there to hide in KoTOR 2? And also to check if there was anything not looted, of course.

    Keep in mind this is also assuming that the place doesn't get reopened after the Jedi Order stops consisting only of the Exile's crew on the Ebon Hawk.

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  • MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    reVerse wrote: »
    Overstrike wrote: »

    As for pvp battlegrounds didn't they say there was going to be one on Alderaan right after the Hope trailer showed up? I seem to remember hearing that somewhere, but I don't think they have confirmed or denied battlegrounds on any of the other planets. Most likely there will be at least one on each of the non starting planets, if I were to take a guess.

    I always got the impression that Alderaan will be the PvP planet, so that all the battlegrounds/PvP missions will be based on Alderaan. I don't have any facts to base this on, but that's the way their talks came across to me.

    Interesting; I didn't get that impression. I'll have to look through the talks again, but I'm pretty sure they said something along the lines of Alderaan being one of the planets were PvP combat will take place; or that PvP combat will take place and Alderaan is one example of where it'll happen.

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  • devCharlesdevCharles Gainesville, FLRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I had the same impression Melkster. Is infiltration still off the table?

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  • LodsiekLodsiek Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I got an invite to the beta. It's going to be open from Monday night at 5 PM to Wednesday at 11:59. Did anyone else get one? I can't seem to find anyone...

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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Lodsiek wrote: »
    I got an invite to the beta. It's going to be open from Monday night at 5 PM to Wednesday at 11:59. Did anyone else get one? I can't seem to find anyone...

    If anyone here has, it's been as brief an access as yours and only in starting areas. I don't think this version of their beta is friend friendly right now.

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  • LodsiekLodsiek Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Corehealer wrote: »
    Lodsiek wrote: »
    I got an invite to the beta. It's going to be open from Monday night at 5 PM to Wednesday at 11:59. Did anyone else get one? I can't seem to find anyone...

    If anyone here has, it's been as brief an access as yours and only in starting areas. I don't think this version of their beta is friend friendly right now.

    Yeah, it says I can play either a Smuggler or Trooper (Republic, bleh) up through lvl 7. Problem is, I work 2 jobs so I'll probably have to have my roomie take over so I can put up some decent feedback. I don't know if being in this first phase of testing guarantees my spot in further sessions, so I'll try to be as useful to them as possible.

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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Lodsiek wrote: »
    Corehealer wrote: »
    Lodsiek wrote: »
    I got an invite to the beta. It's going to be open from Monday night at 5 PM to Wednesday at 11:59. Did anyone else get one? I can't seem to find anyone...

    If anyone here has, it's been as brief an access as yours and only in starting areas. I don't think this version of their beta is friend friendly right now.

    Yeah, it says I can play either a Smuggler or Trooper (Republic, bleh) up through lvl 7. Problem is, I work 2 jobs so I'll probably have to have my roomie take over so I can put up some decent feedback. I don't know if being in this first phase of testing guarantees my spot in further sessions, so I'll try to be as useful to them as possible.

    It probably doesn't, betas are usually random. Enjoy it when you can while you can.

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  • Burden of ProofBurden of Proof You three boys picked a beautiful hill to die on. Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'm still expecting Geonosis to be a playable planet. It seemed pretty important in that timeline about the Mandalorians and the gladiatorial pits.

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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'm still expecting Geonosis to be a playable planet. It seemed pretty important in that timeline about the Mandalorians and the gladiatorial pits.

    Mandalore's profile page in the faction profiles area states his base of operations is Geonosis. It sure does look like a likely addition to the already crowded planetary field.

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  • Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Wonder how they will deal with pvp raids on planets in this game. Is it possible for you to get a bunch of Sith friends together and raid Coruscant? Capital raids are not the most fun part of WoW, but it would be odd to have it completly impossible.

    Where will conflict between factions emerge?

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  • AstaleAstale Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Kipling217 wrote: »
    Where will conflict between factions emerge?

    Same place as any MMO: Epeen dickery/one-upsmanship in the forums!

    I keed, I keed.

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  • devCharlesdevCharles Gainesville, FLRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I think I'd be a bigger fan of Capital raids if you didn't continuously kill named characters. Killing Thrall a few times kind of breaks immersion. I could just see a group of Republic faction guys killing the Emperor, and then proceed to stand around being like...war over?

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'd like it if attacking enemy cities wasn't possible at all. In WoW, it pretty much just boils down to "we killed the auctioneers, have fun flying to another city to do your trading".

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  • devCharlesdevCharles Gainesville, FLRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'd just prefer for it to be a basically impossible task. Wasn't there a dragon in FFXI that was just impossible to kill?

    That being said, capital raids don't really make sense in the context of the game where they're in a cold war and outright military action against an undisputed faction controlled planet would lead to you getting disowned by your own faction out of desire to not have full scale war break out again.

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  • Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Some kind of PvP raid would be cool though, maybe each faction has a base with a general with a random name. Kill him and you get the base, then if the other faction takes it back, a new general takes over.

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  • Burden of ProofBurden of Proof You three boys picked a beautiful hill to die on. Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Why the hell do they keep setting MMOs during cold wars and treaty negotiations?

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Or more importantly, why do they keep splitting the player base in two with factions? Just let's everyone be on the same team so it's easier to get groups for PvE and in PvP you can be blue team or red team.

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  • BloodshedBloodshed I smoke my friends Down to the FilterRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    reVerse wrote: »
    Or more importantly, why do they keep splitting the player base in two with factions? Just let's everyone be on the same team so it's easier to get groups for PvE and in PvP you can be blue team or red team.

    That's a pretty good point. It would certainly help get away from one faction being more heavily populated than the other.

    And balance PvP since each opposing side would have access to every class.
    Unfortunately, it doesn't really fit the storyline.

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  • AstaleAstale Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Eh, Champions did exactly that (everyone on the same side, pvp is red/blue), and it didn't really improve anything.

    Really the only benefit was that they were able to spread the lack of content around more since they only had one side, but even then they didn't have enough so everyone complained/left anyways. As for pvp, let me assure you, it can most certainly still have crippling balance issues even with both sides having the same powers available!

    So in the end, I don't think it matters as long as you put in the requisite effort.

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