Devastation (SSF4, Tekken 6, HDRemix, etc) Live Stream Finals today by djWHEAT

Slasher

Hey guys, myself, djWHEAT and others from the community are streaming Devastation this weekend, live from the Phoenix Convention Center, a major Super Street Fighter 4 and other fighting games tourney. We go live with the finals day in 30 minutes.

Tune in at http://www.djWHEAT.tv

Here's the schedule for today:

Smash Bros Finals - Mew2King vs Havok
Tansunoko vs Capcom Final 4 - WB: Marn vs KBeast / LB: RoyalFlush vs KRSJIN
Blaz Blue Finals - Tubazo vs Geminemi
Marvel vs Capcom 2 (Low Tier) Final - KBeast vs Mike Jones Jax
Marvel vs Capcom 2 Final - Ruin vs Showstopper
HDRemix Finals Final 4 - WB: Mongolo Robo k vs DGV / LB: EA Megaman vs Stiff Peter
Soul Calibur 4 Final 4 - WB: NFK vs Dreamkiller / LB: Thuggish Road vs King Salmon
Tekken 6 Final 4 - WB: Holeman (Korea) vs Nin (Korea) / LB: Chet vs Suiken
Super Street Fighter 4 Final 8 - WB: Alex Valle vs Juicebox, Combofiend vs Marn / LB: Mike Ross vs Buktooth, Filipino Champ vs Ninja CW

We've put up one VOD so far of the amaaaazing Juicebox vs floe match, find it here: http://djwheat.blip.tv/file/3779329/ - Just look at floe's face! All the finals VOD's will be at http://www.djWHEAT.blip.tv right after their over, and then we'll get to yesterday's SSF4 matches later today. More info can be found at http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2010/jun/18/live-stream-devastation-2010/

mutantmagnet

Thanks for the update. I was wondering what was up with the delay. Looking forward to NinjaCW generating more nerd rage for those who subscribe to tier lists.

FishStix

This should be a lot of fun... all of the final matches are gonna be freaking epic. Never seen professional Brawl in person either. SSF4 HYPE!!!

Slasher

Mew2King wins Smash, TvC up now

Slasher

Marn wins TvC, BlazBlue up now

FishStix

LIVE NOW from DEVASTATION - Soul Calibur IV Finals (DreamKiller vs. Thugish Pond) - http://djWHEAT.tv/

Fig-D

I'm going to have to catch the earlier stuff when it's posted later. I managed to miss both TvC and BB. Watching Floe v Juicebox right now because I'm not big on SCIV.

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Despite the small details he's mistaken about, DrDogg is right about Amy. She is easily top 3 in the game, but requires the least amount of work and is the hardest to play against.

So custom 360 pads ftw.

FuriousJodo

So she's basically Blanka? (Though Blanka isn't top 3, he is definitely a character where I feel like the reward is way higher than the skill required for it)

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She's the offence version of. But she's 100% 50/50s, has the best lows in the game, and you can learn everything you need to know about playing her in 20 minutes. The only things that you can improve on are character knowledge and just not sucking.

Although, unlike Blanka she has the luxury of having a tool or every possible situation. She can fight and win at any range, versus any character.

Fig-D

Ring Out Calibur IV right now, sheesh.

Slasher

Just to let you guys know, VOD's are being uploaded on the fly, with all of today's finals games already on http://djwheat.blip.tv/posts?view=archive&nsfw=dc

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Ring outs are the best part. I never understand why 2d fighters don't like them. Especially the ones who play games with infinites. You usually have to work harder to set up a RO than an infinite.

The best way to describe the feeling that people get, and the reason that people don't like playing against high level Amy, is that it's rarely that Amy wins, just that you lose. The setups are all transparent and obvious, but there are so many of them that you cannot react and adapt to them all. You just get ground down mentally, and the mistakes compound until you give up.

Fig-D

I don't have a problem with ROs, I'm just surprised to see so many of them (I obviously don't watch a lot of SCIV).

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Amy is very good for ROs, Ivy is good. They're bound to happen.

FishStix

Soul Calibur IV has wrapped up!
1st: Thugish Pond
2nd: NoFaceKilla

Next up: Tekken 6 top 4! Tune in @ http://djWHEAT.tv

Dragkonias

Fig-D wrote: »

I don't have a problem with ROs, I'm just surprised to see so many of them (I obviously don't watch a lot of SCIV).

ROs are a part of the game just as everything else. Just another thing you have to learn to deal with.

That being said, Amy is a good RO character and No Face was getting scared too much. He was too afraid of the toe poke and he wasn't breaking too many throws at the end(which was strange since he was doing them in the beginning), that's why he kept eating mids.

He was doing good in the beginning but towards the end he kept freezing up and letting Amy get in close on him. Amy has good mixups but that's only at close range, you can't let yourself get faked out by her or she's going to just dance all over you.

I think it being his first chance to win a big tournament, his nerves got to him. It is understandable though.

Lingxor

Do you guys think players coaching other players during a match should be allowed?

It just doesn't seem like good form for a tournament. Every year at Evo, Daigo has to deal with Justin and his pack to the point where they're practically verbally assaulting him during the match. Not that it's ever helped Justin, but for the players who are mere mortals it doesn't seem cool.

FuriousJodo

You can't really stop people yelling or whatever during a match, but I don't think direct coaching (people sitting right next to you and such) should be allowed in a 1v1. For team matches I think Coaching is just fine from your teammate.

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Dragkonias wrote: »

Fig-D wrote: »

I don't have a problem with ROs, I'm just surprised to see so many of them (I obviously don't watch a lot of SCIV).

ROs are a part of the game just as everything else. Just another thing you have to learn to deal with.

That being said, Amy is a good RO character and No Face was getting scared too much. He was too afraid of the toe poke and he wasn't breaking too many throws at the end(which was strange since he was doing them in the beginning), that's why he kept eating mids.

He was doing good in the beginning but towards the end he kept freezing up and letting Amy get in close on him. Amy has good mixups but that's only at close range, you can't let yourself get faked out by her or she's going to just dance all over you.

I think it being his first chance to win a big tournament, his nerves got to him. It is understandable though.

As I said, Amy's greatest strengths are that she breaks you down mentally, even at high level play. Nothing she does is complicated, but she can continually force you into situations where even the 50/50s don't play out evenly, and your best bet is to just roll over and wait for your next opportunity. You get punished every time you try to assert something on the match. And her throw game has the advantage of not having a real advantage, like Xianghua: there's no reason to prefer one throw over the other for damage or position, unless you want a specific RO, so you have to guess which one she's going to do in the open.

Her 2b+k, the toe poke, is fast enough that it is impossible to react to and safe enough that even if you anticipate it then you probably won't be able to react in time to punish. It gives a ground stun on normal hit, which sets up her oki. At that point she can 2b+k again, or 3b if you try to block that. If you try and block the 3b then you get hit by 2b+k and you're in the exact same situation. The best option is to just lie there and take the hit so you get pushed away and she can't reset it, which is VERY frustrating. And that's just one of her options, though it's the most annoying. You either get to a point where you don't want to do anything, or you just want to do something. Both end with you losing.

FishStix

Its an all Korean Tekken 6 final here @ DEVASTATION... either way, a final is a FINAL! GET HYPE!! - http://djWHEAT.tv/

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Wish Tekken wasn't so boring to watch. Makes it so much harder to learn.

JustPlainEvil

Damn missed most of the live casts! Just in time for SF4 though woo.

FuriousJodo

Yeah, SSF4 starting shortly. JuceBox vs Valle coming up right now.

FishStix

The moment you've ALL been waiting for... Super Street Fighter IV [Top 8] kicks off NOW!!! [Alex Valle vs Juicebox, Combofiend vs Marn, Mike Ross vs Buktooth, Filipino Champ vs Ninja CW] - http://djWHEAT.tv

cj iwakura

That Makoto/Dhalsim match was wicked.

Slasher

ALEX VALLE! GET HYPE!

FuriousJodo

Great match going on between Mike Ross and Valle

FuriousJodo

OH wow, this match with Marn and Juicebox is incredible. Great matches so far.

BTP

FuriousJodo wrote: »

OH wow, this match with Marn and Juicebox is incredible. Great matches so far.

The part with C. Viper charging up the ultra, then boom--smokescreen--, and then the smoke clears to see Abel grabbing/throwing C. Viper was fucking amazing! Like a Bugs Bunny cartoon!

Paragon

I haven't played SSF4, haven't played fighting games in quite some time actually. I just watched this match between Abel and Viper and Abel's throws seem overpowered, so much damage.


Viper: Combos and stuff, 5-6 connects in a row?
Abel: Two throws.

Equal health on both.


I loved the match though, really awesome.

cj iwakura

Dudley is taking NAMES.

Paragon

Great tournament, thanks for the heads-up.

Slasher

ALL VOD's from all games of today's finals are already up, and can be viewed at http://www.djWHEAT.blip.tv