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My Love Affair with Doom 64: Unjust?
Fractilion
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Everyone hates this game, which leaves me baffled. But not to worry. There's plenty of other games I have random obsessions with that I sometimes can't explain (Killing Time, Brandish, Castlequest....). But in this case, I find myself completely satisfied. The level design is....I'm sorry, but it's spectacular. I challenge anyone to give me detailed evidence as to how older Doom titles could come close to superior as far as this goes. My theory is everyone was butthurt that not enough was amp'd as far as the engine goes. They wanted moar "tree dee" because it's....N64 right? RIGHT?!!
But yeah. Graphics are very aesthetically appealing, music is amazing. Just overall epic, fun, atmospheric. It's got everything. I enjoy playing it far more than Doom and Doom 2. I just don't understand these, in /b/tard terms, "nostalgia-fags" cloying over those out dated levels when there are far superior ones out there.
I would go into the superiority of Bungie's Marathon but I'd rather not cause too big of a shit-storm. At least not now.
But yeah. Graphics are very aesthetically appealing, music is amazing. Just overall epic, fun, atmospheric. It's got everything. I enjoy playing it far more than Doom and Doom 2. I just don't understand these, in /b/tard terms, "nostalgia-fags" cloying over those out dated levels when there are far superior ones out there.
I would go into the superiority of Bungie's Marathon but I'd rather not cause too big of a shit-storm. At least not now.
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Of course I saw how limited the use of the system was when I played Mario as far as graphics and stuff, and It's a little bland to be revisited, but I still dig it.
I then got Doom and Ultimate Doom on Playstation....sooo good.
Doom is great.
"Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death." -HST
I loved it. The only thing I didn't like was how the default exit in some level abotu 2/3 of the way through will teleport you right to the final boss arena, thereby skipping and missing out on playing almost a third of the levels in the game, which you can only get to by accessing a secret exit in some level.
Other than that, yeah, Doom64 is great. Not as good as the Doom propers perhaps but still quite fun, and I enjoy the music and aesthetic as well.
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seriously...
Glad we could validate you in your argument from some other internet forum.
Something almost clay-mation-ey about the sprites was cool. And yeah, great music and level design.
meh
Duke 64 was fucking awesome. You could do 4 player split-screen and even add bots. I played so many matches alone against bots with the difficulty cranked up. So much fucking fun.
Also, Doom 64 was awesome as well. I loved everything about that game, it's been far too long since I last played it.
haha. so many forgotten gems. i gotta recheck these..
it's funny. all these games got such bad reviews in their time, i swear. now i hear you guys raving about it here. so gnarly.
weirdest part of Duke Nukem 3D was the space port.
and yeah. never tried Doom 64's source port. I like the cartridge version ;3 (except all N64 joypads fuck up so damn fast)
I've seen weirder.:P
No obligitory link to the Doom comic yet? Yeah, I played the hell out of Doom 64 too - the only things I really missed were the awesome music and animations of the PC versions (seriously, no shotgun reloading? Heresy!). Oh, and the ability to quicksave/load. I especially liked the "laser" you could earn by doing a certain set of secret levels (I believe). That thing was fun.
As for Duke and Quake 64: they were both pretty good ports, considering the hardware; although anyone with a 360 and a couple of bucks to spare should get Duke 3D on XBLA, since it's probably cheaper.
not to mention the EVEN more satisfying gun sounds.....
PSH!!!!!! chk-CHK.....PSH!!!!! .....ect
oh yeah. and all the puzzles were genius. almost as genius as the levels ID made for Rise of the Triad. But not quite, in my opinion.
You mean http://doom64ex.sourceforge.net/?
I did own Duke Nukem 64, though. Played the shit out of it. IIRC, the textures looked more detailed and the enemies used 3D models instead of sprites. It's been a long time since I played it, so I don't remember what else was different. I remember thinking the game looked uglier than I remembered when I bought the XBLA port. I didn't play much of the game on the PC. Most of my experience with it came from the N64 version.
All you need to know. Basically it was an entirely original game with new levels, re-rendered enemy models, some new weapons, and generally tweaked mechanics. Pretty darn good for a Doom game, tough as hell, too; like I said before, the only things missing were actual music, some weapon animations, and the ability to quicksave/load (you could only save between levels on a memory pak, which was a pain considering how hard the game got at times).
EDIT: Here, have some Doom 2 . . . now with those damn annoying vuvuzela thingies from the world cup!
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!!!!
This has been very enlightening- thank you sir.
Wish I'd played Doom 64, sounds intriguing. Were the enemies 3D, sprites, or some weird hybrid? Recall seeing some polygonal action on the box screen shots.
I'm pretty sure Duke 64 was still sprites, but that multiplayer was a blast. Especially the woeful AI on the Duke Nukem bots - facing a wall, jumping perpetually; "Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Where is it?!"
Where indeed.
The conversion I remember playing was the Absolution, based on the Doomsday engine (it was released a while ago in 03). Its old site host is dead, though, but you can find it scattered erstwhile (here's a Fileshitty link). It does require a legit doom2.wad, for reasons that baffle me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl29_hYqxq0
It was a port of Duke Nukem 3d, except they changed up some of the nudity stuff and they changed a weapon.
The graphics were worse; the textures were all less resolute and blurry. The PC version has higher resolution textures. They also removed the reflection effect of mirrors.
The enemies are all sprites except the final boss, which is polygonal. The final boss's stadium level is also changed as well.
That's all I can remember off hand. Still an excellent port and great game, very fun.
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