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Help me gift books to my friends kid.

MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
edited June 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
So, my BF and I have some friends we visit occasionally, and they have two adorable kids. One is a girl, who I believe is 5 or 6, the other is a boy who is around 11 or 12.

I've decided next time we visit them, I want to give the kids something too as we've got some presents for their parents. I am a firm believer in giving children books. I was a voracious reader as a kid so consequently I think all children should be.

The girl loves princesses and butterflies and all that, so finding an age appropriate book for her shouldn't be too hard. It's the boy I'm having trouble with.

Their family is big on sci-fi/fantasy (Star Wars especially) so I was going to give him a copy of the first three Xanth novels (I have a collected version), but upon re-reading it to make sure it was appropriate, I have decided it isn't. Most of it is ok, but there is a little discussion of sex and more notably, rape (in terms of how the country of Xanth was first colonized).

That's not a concept I want this kid asking his parents about after reading the book I gave him, so now I need to find something sci-fi or fantasy that is a bit more age appropriate. I need suggestions.

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  • ZedarZedar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    David Eddings Belgariad is a great "light" fantasy. I first read it when I was 11 or so and absolutely loved it (indeed, I've been using a name from it online for something like 13 years now). Harry Potter is another obvious option, but he's probably already read that, as well as the Narnia books. I honestly can't think of any sci fi appropriate for younger readers, I think all the SF I read is either too dense or too dirty :)

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  • Page-Page- Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I've given out The Dangerous Book for Boys to a few young kids and it worked out well enough. Except for the one I got for my little brother and then just borrowed from him and kept for like a month because it's actually really neat.

    If you think it'll fly then you should go for it.

    I'd suggest The Daring Book for Girls as well, but at 6 your friend's kid is probably still a little young.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Zedar wrote: »
    David Eddings Belgariad is a great "light" fantasy. I first read it when I was 11 or so and absolutely loved it (indeed, I've been using a name from it online for something like 13 years now).

    :^:

    The Hitchhiker's Guide series is great, I think I was around 12 when I started it.

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  • Pipe DreamerPipe Dreamer Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    How about The Neverending Story by Michael Ende? I remember reading it around age 9, when it was a bit beyond my reading level but still awesome. 11-12 should be a great time to read it, and it has no objectionable content whatsoever that I can remember.

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  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I think that's the age I started reading the golden compass, and I absolutely loved it.

    It's got some sci-fi as well as fantasy elements. Some of it will probably be over his head at that age but I loved it nonetheless. It does have a few anti-organized religion themes in it (which, again, will probably be right over his head) so keep that in mind if his parents are particularly religious

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  • Page-Page- Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Hexwood is a great little sci-fi book. I read it around that age and loved it a lot.

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  • ToddJewellToddJewell Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    The Percy Jackson series is suitable for the boy... plus they are doing movies about them

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  • strebaliciousstrebalicious Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    KalTorak wrote: »
    The Hitchhiker's Guide series is great, I think I was around 12 when I started it.

    I've been trying to get my son (10) to read it, but everytime he finishes a book, my wife makes him read some other crap like Eragon or Princess Bride.

    "Every book is a children's book if the kid can read." -Mitch Hedberg

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  • NylonathetepNylonathetep Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Princess Bride?

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  • Mostlyjoe13Mostlyjoe13 Evil, Evil, Jump for joy! Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    ToddJewell wrote: »
    The Percy Jackson series is suitable for the boy... plus they are doing movies about them

    I'd ask his parents if he already has any of this series. But it's actually a fun read even as an adult. Very much the "I've got super powers in Jr. High School plot." Less Harry Potter, more young magical x-men vibe going on.

    Now mind you I did read Xanth back around this age. However might I suggest the following:

    Tripod Series

    The Dark is Rising Series

    Howl's Moving Castle - And Castle in the Air/House of Many Ways that followed it up.

    The Wrinkle in Time set.

    The Phantom Tollbooth - And/or James and the Giant Peach

    Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH

    Just some classics.

    But keep in mind when I was his age I was reading: Have Spacesuit Will Travel (Robert A. Heinlein had a series of young reader friendly books, but you have to be careful. Pay attention to the main character. If they're young/kids then generally it's from his youth series of books.) I was a wee bit advanced at that age. YMMV.

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  • CygnusZCygnusZ Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    But keep in mind when I was his age I was reading: Have Spacesuit Will Travel (Robert A. Heinlein had a series of young reader friendly books, but you have to be careful. Pay attention to the main character. If they're young/kids then generally it's from his youth series of books.) But then again I was a wee bit advanced at that age. YMMV.

    At 11 or 12 the kid should be able to read normal books. Have Spacesuit Will Travel is meant for 3rd and 4th graders, and it's extremely dated. At that age there's no reason the kid can't handle some sexual content and Xanth may be a decent choice. Piers Anthony also had a series called "The Incarnations of Immortality", which even though it had sexual themes, I remember enjoying when I was in 6th grade. I also recall reading The Sword of Shannarah in 5th grade or so, but it is very long and the drawn out descriptions in the book are pretty fucking ridiculous. Maybe the Death Gate cycle would be ok?

    Even for the younger kid, if the parents are willing to read to her a bit, the Lloyd Alexander's Prydain series (at least, the Book of Three) shouldn't be too much of a stretch.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    How about The Neverending Story by Michael Ende? I remember reading it around age 9, when it was a bit beyond my reading level but still awesome. 11-12 should be a great time to read it, and it has no objectionable content whatsoever that I can remember.

    Seconding this. Amazing book.

    Also, Interstellar Pig is fantastic sci-fi for that age range. Sounds weird, but read up on it.

    And whoever said The Princess Bride is crap...whaaaaaaaat?

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  • Mostlyjoe13Mostlyjoe13 Evil, Evil, Jump for joy! Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Esh wrote: »
    Also, Interstellar Pig is fantastic sci-fi for that age range. Sounds weird, but read up on it.

    And whoever said The Princess Bride is crap...whaaaaaaaat?

    Thanks you. I forgot the title for Interstellar Pig.

    I know Have Spacesuit Will Travel is dated, but it is a decent book for kids in that age range. That's the only point I was making. Ain't nothing wrong with old-school sci-fi. Oh course by the time I was 13 I was reading Dune, the collected works of C. J. Cherryl, and picked up Niven's Known Space... But that's an aquired taste.

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  • TavataarTavataar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Mostlyjoe13 has some awesome suggestions!!!

    I would also add Brian Jacques's "Redwall Series" to the list. They are fantastic stories, and are perfect for around the 8-14 mark.

    I think David Edding's work may be a bit too mature for someone that young. They can become quite graphic at times.

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  • HypatiaHypatia Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Does he like dragons?
    Dragon's Blood by Jane Yolen (young boy raises a dragon to fight in the pits so he can escape slavery)
    Nightpool by Shirley Rousseau Murphy (younger boy becomes a dragon bard/hero)

    Does he like unicorns?
    Birth of the Firebringer by Meredith Ann Pierce (young boy unicorn fights to save his tribe)

    Does he like sci-fi?
    Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card
    Pegasus in Flight by Anne McCaffrey

    Does he like ninjas?
    Across the Nightingale Floor by Lian Hearn

    Others:
    I assume he's already read Harry Potter?
    The Chronicles of Narnia by C.S. Lewis
    Fat Men From Space by Daniel Pinkwater (a silly but fun book)
    The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman
    The Amazing Power of Ashur Fine by Donald Sobol (boy gets power from elephant to gain anyone's skills for 10 minutes)

    That's all I can think of off the top of my head that aren't girls as the main character! Interstellar Pig was also a great read :)

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  • TavataarTavataar Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    You could also start him on any of the Terry Pratchett series!

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  • Angel177Angel177 Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    the Eragon series is a good match for that age range, and it came top in the 11-15 year old section of my works (librarian) teen choice and there is set to be a 4th book as well.

    Its Star Wars but with dragons.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Bunnicula.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Sentry wrote: »
    Bunnicula.

    Bunnicula is kind of in between the two age ranges. I'd say that's an 8 or 9 year old book.

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  • bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    FYI on the HGttG series. I think it's the 4th book, has a sex scene. Nothing too graphic, but some parent may not like you giving their 11 year a book with a sex scene in it.

    I will throw in a second for Wrinkle in Time. I remember really enjoying those as a kid.
    Depending on the kid, he may also be ready to give The Hobbit a read.

    For the 6 year old, The Giving Tree, Beatrix Potter and Dr Seuss

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  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    There are some ace recommendations in this thread.

    However, I'd just like to say a big no to anything by Piers Anthony. He's sometimes seen as a children's author but many of his books have age inappropriate sexual content for an 11 year old. Not wholesome sex either, but a lot of underage girl/adult male sex presented as a good thing. There's a lot of controversy about whether the implications are truly paedophilic, but it would be wise not to give the books to children who are not your own in case their parents flick through the books and take offense to something.

    When I was that age, I liked Sci-Fi novels by H.M. Hoover, but they are probably a little old-fashioned by now. I also liked simpler adult sci-fi like Isaac Asimov's Foundation trilogy.

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Goblins in the Castle was my first fantasy book I read as a kid (besides Lord of the Rings, which was read to me before bedtime).

    Bruce Coville became my favourite author for that age group.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    CygnusZ wrote: »
    But keep in mind when I was his age I was reading: Have Spacesuit Will Travel (Robert A. Heinlein had a series of young reader friendly books, but you have to be careful. Pay attention to the main character. If they're young/kids then generally it's from his youth series of books.) But then again I was a wee bit advanced at that age. YMMV.

    At 11 or 12 the kid should be able to read normal books. Have Spacesuit Will Travel is meant for 3rd and 4th graders, and it's extremely dated. At that age there's no reason the kid can't handle some sexual content and Xanth may be a decent choice. Piers Anthony also had a series called "The Incarnations of Immortality", which even though it had sexual themes, I remember enjoying when I was in 6th grade. I also recall reading The Sword of Shannarah in 5th grade or so, but it is very long and the drawn out descriptions in the book are pretty fucking ridiculous. Maybe the Death Gate cycle would be ok?

    Even for the younger kid, if the parents are willing to read to her a bit, the Lloyd Alexander's Prydain series (at least, the Book of Three) shouldn't be too much of a stretch.
    Stuff with sexual content isn't exactly safe to give to kids if they aren't you own, unless you run it by the parents first.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Esh wrote: »
    Sentry wrote: »
    Bunnicula.

    Bunnicula is kind of in between the two age ranges. I'd say that's an 8 or 9 year old book.

    I actually recommended it for that reason, because I still think both kids would get some enjoyment out of it.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I'll just go ahead and second Redwall, Eddings, NIMH, Hitchhiker's Guide (the first few anyway, what with the sex and all), The Dark is Rising, Tripod, and I'll give a million votes to The Phantom Tollbooth.

    Basically mostlyjoe is awesome.

    If you want to go a little sideways, there's Watership Down, which was one of my favorite books when I was about his age, and the daughter may enjoy it in a few years.
    edit: I say sideways because it is not sci-fi or fantasy, but instead an adventure book about rabbits, if you aren't familiar with it. My mom tried to read it to us as a bed time story when i was in about 3rd or 4th grade, but after a few nights I got sick of waiting to find out what happened and took it to finish myself.

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  • Mostlyjoe13Mostlyjoe13 Evil, Evil, Jump for joy! Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    There are some ace recommendations in this thread.

    However, I'd just like to say a big no to anything by Piers Anthony. He's sometimes seen as a children's author but many of his books have age inappropriate sexual content for an 11 year old. Not wholesome sex either, but a lot of underage girl/adult male sex presented as a good thing. There's a lot of controversy about whether the implications are truly paedophilic, but it would be wise not to give the books to children who are not your own in case their parents flick through the books and take offense to something.

    When I was that age, I liked Sci-Fi novels by H.M. Hoover, but they are probably a little old-fashioned by now. I also liked simpler adult sci-fi like Isaac Asimov's Foundation trilogy.

    Agreed about Mr. Anthony. The ONLY books of his I'd let someone under the age of 15 read is the original Xanth triology, the first 5 books of the Incarnations series, and maybe some of his weird off the cuff stuff like Prosthos Plus which is kinda funny about a space dentist. I'm not kidding. But DO NOT let them read the Phaze/Photon, Bio of a Space Tyrant, Firefly (double plus NO NO), and the later Incarnations books.

    How about some more fun/safer suggestions?

    Alan Dean Fosters Pip and Flinx adventures...which starts with For Love of Mother-Not (I think)

    Alan Dean Fosters: With Friends like These... a great collection of Alien shorts. Also keep an eye out for Nor Crystal Tears. Set in the same universe as Pip/Flinx.

    Spellsinger by Alan Dean Foster this is actually a large series, but the stories are light hearted and fun to read.

    Sword of Shnnara - Brooks early books in this series arn't too bad. It's basically Fantasy Star Wars.

    Feists - RiftWar Saga is actually really good. The early books are a fun read. The later stuff is a bit out there, but hey.

    The Wizard of Earthsea by Le Guin is another classic.

    Foster is a pop-corn writer. His books are easy but there are a few to watch out for. The Pip and Flinx is pretty safte. Most of these are more advanced/later choices. I'll leave it to your judgement.

    Can you tell I practically lived in my schools library back in Junior High/High School? Heh.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Sentry wrote: »
    Esh wrote: »
    Sentry wrote: »
    Bunnicula.

    Bunnicula is kind of in between the two age ranges. I'd say that's an 8 or 9 year old book.

    I actually recommended it for that reason, because I still think both kids would get some enjoyment out of it.

    Yeah, but at that age, a young boy isn't going to want to be reading "little kid" books. YMMV, but I think there are much better choices.

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  • Mostlyjoe13Mostlyjoe13 Evil, Evil, Jump for joy! Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Also: There are two fantasy series I'm going to right out say DO NOT get for kids:

    The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant - Stephen R. Donaldson

    The Sword of Truth - Terry Goodkind


    Unless your ready to deal with concepts like Rape, S&M, excessive torture, Ann Rynd, stuff like that. :P

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    These are great suggestions guys. Thank you so much. I read so much as a kid that I don't remember now so I couldn't think of any I used to read.

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  • Mostlyjoe13Mostlyjoe13 Evil, Evil, Jump for joy! Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    MuddBudd wrote: »
    These are great suggestions guys. Thank you so much. I read so much as a kid that I don't remember now so I couldn't think of any I used to read.

    I think I'm weird because I never got rid of my old books. I still have my thumbed through paperbacks of yor in my collection. Every year I break open one of Tupperware boxes and pull out a series or two. I keep re-reading them they're so good. Also, I don't read individual novels. I read entire authors collections at a time. And nowadays my hunger is diminished, imagine how voracious I was as a child. I thank my parents for getting me into books young. So many good memories.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Hmm, for the girl there's the Enchant Forest Chronicles by Patricia Wrede. I loved those when I was little. Always wanted to find a princess like Cimorene. But then I guess those books are a couple years older than her too.

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  • TlexTlex Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Tavataar wrote: »
    You should also start him on all of the Terry Pratchett series!

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  • FafnerMorellFafnerMorell Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    For the 6 year old (looks like the older boy is getting plenty of suggestions), there's a large number of "Learning to Read" or "Step into Reading" books with Disney, Backyardigans, and other tie-ins. If you happen to know a bit about what she finds most interesting (say, recent Disney movie or favorite princess), it's pretty easy to find a match. I picked up "Royal Champions" at B&N over the weekend for my daughters - it's got stories of the various Disney Princesses racing horses and such.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2010
    The Last Unicorn.

    Fantastic for both genders. He may be deterred by the unicorn bit, but there's also a giant red bull and anyway it's not really about unicorns.

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  • cabsycabsy the fattest rainbow unicorn Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Terry Pratchett's Discworld, The Phantom Tollbooth can never have enough votes, the Wrinkle in Time series also can't get enough votes, Something Wicked This Way Comes is aimed straight at 11-12 year olds but has a very lasting story, most of Bradbury's work in general, Michael Crichton stuff (especially Jurassic Park), The Belgariad, His Dark Materials trilogy, Artemis Fowl series maybe, Watership Down is FANTASTIC, most of Neil Gaiman's work is pretty unobjectionable, and Roald Dahl is always a favorite. If the two kids are close and they don't have all the Shel Silverstein books (except Uncle Shel's ABZs - that's more snarky adult humor), those are great and older bro can read them to younger sis or younger sis can read them on her own.

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  • squeefishsqueefish Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I adored anything by Garth Nix at that age (and still do). The Abhorsen series was my favourite. Age appropriate, intelligent fantasy.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Figgy wrote: »
    Goblins in the Castle was my first fantasy book I read as a kid (besides Lord of the Rings, which was read to me before bedtime).

    Bruce Coville became my favourite author for that age group.

    Oh man Bruce Coville's stuff is great. Both sci-fi and fantasy (the Aliens Ate my Homework series was probably my favorite sci-fi).

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  • Shark_MegaByteShark_MegaByte Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Alcatraz vs. The Evil Librarians is a good kids' book, but it has such good snarky, non-sequitur humor that I had fun reading it this year (I'm 30). He may like it even if it's not right-on-target for his age or reading level.

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  • bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Again for the 11 year old, not really scifi, but kinda fantasy-ish:
    The Indian in the Cupboard series.
    The Castle in the Attic.

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  • strebaliciousstrebalicious Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I don't think it has been mentioned, but the Bone series, while less book and more graphic novel, seems to resonate well with my 10 year old son and his group of friends. Heck, even the six year old daughter of a friend likes the Bone series.

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