I also bet their CMs will still have their IDs hidden, while the rest of us have to show our names.
The post linked earlier states that all Blizzard employees who post will be in the same boat.
Well, then I am happy to admit I lost that bet, but man I wouldn't want angry nerds knowing who I was if they disliked some blue post I made. Will the CMs still opt-out was was indicated its possible to do, or do they not have a choice?
How do you even change the name on a Battle.net account?
I have friends who were recently married and it took sending in a form + copy of the marriage certificate before they'd change her last name. So they seem to take it somewhat seriously.
So Blizzard wants to make sure that less people post on the forums? okay.
Fine by me if post quality goes up.
I can imagine people will make up fake alt accounts with a false name just to post.
And pay $15/month just for that? I think not.
This isn't just WoW, this is the entirety of Battle.NET. You got any old Starcraft/Diablo II CD-keys lying around you've never applied to an account? Poof, new forums account.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited July 2010
It's a great way to cull the herd of posters on the forum.
Honestly, what a better way to maintain PR while cutting back the volume of posts you have to monitor and coddle.
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How do you even change the name on a Battle.net account?
I have friends who were recently married and it took sending in a form + copy of the marriage certificate before they'd change her last name. So they seem to take it somewhat seriously.
That's unfortunate. I was going to simply change the name on the account and use time cards, so I could keep helping people in the UI forums. Oh well.
Since I've got an abusive ex-husband that knows I play wow (but not what class/race/faction/server) and I know he plays wow (but not which class/race/faction/server) I see the RealID being the forum ID causing nothing at ALL but trouble, and that'll be the end of me posting on WoW forums.
I can't fathom how they thought this was a good idea in the least. Unless it's a diabolical plan to get everyone to stop using the forums so they don't have to put up with them anymore. In which case, it's brilliant.
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You can opt-out of RealID using the Battle.net parental controls. I'm pretty sure in the Brave New Forums doing such a thing would just lock you out of forum access, though.
I can't fathom how they thought this was a good idea in the least. Unless it's a diabolical plan to get everyone to stop using the forums so they don't have to put up with them anymore. In which case, it's brilliant.
Heh, I was thinking this like 5 minutes ago. I think this is a lesson to all never to post on any game's official forums. Why does Blizzard support a general discussion forum anyway? It's kind of silly.
I can't fathom how they thought this was a good idea in the least. Unless it's a diabolical plan to get everyone to stop using the forums so they don't have to put up with them anymore. In which case, it's brilliant.
Heh, I was thinking this like 5 minutes ago. I think this is a lesson to all never to post on any game's official forums. Why does Blizzard support a general discussion forum anyway? It's kind of silly.
Because it creates a central official place for the developers to interface with the players.
If you don't have an official forum, an unofficial official forum just springs up anyway, but now the developers don't have control of it.
Apparently, my account got stolen and used in for a gold buying scheme. Because now it's locked off or whatever it does.
It's kind of funny, because for the past few weeks, I generally played about 20 minutes of WoW each day, if that much. I still want to dispute it though, for what little it will do or mean.
Because it creates a central official place for the developers to interface with the players.
If you don't have an official forum, an unofficial official forum just springs up anyway, but now the developers don't have control of it.
Actually, I misspoke. I meant the Off Topic Discussion. The general discussion on the world of warcraft forum is still devoted to world of warcraft. I understand why they would want actual conversation regarding the game on a forum they run.
I can't fathom how they thought this was a good idea in the least. Unless it's a diabolical plan to get everyone to stop using the forums so they don't have to put up with them anymore. In which case, it's brilliant.
This is, in all likelihood, the very reasoning behind this. Trolls and spammers will likely stop posting en masse once they realize they have their name attached and legitimate posters who don't want their discussions on class balance or highly-viewed class guides to be the first thing any prospective employer googles up on them will follow them as well. This means their CS staff can be reduced equally dramatically, and their bandwidth costs can be slashed as well.
It's a cost-cutting and managerial decision made at the expense of good will.
Edit: Also, the various Blizzard forums will be switching to a "threaded threads" system. This will make them damn near unreadable by itself.
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- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
Since I've got an abusive ex-husband that knows I play wow (but not what class/race/faction/server) and I know he plays wow (but not which class/race/faction/server) I see the RealID being the forum ID causing nothing at ALL but trouble, and that'll be the end of me posting on WoW forums.
I can't fathom how they thought this was a good idea in the least. Unless it's a diabolical plan to get everyone to stop using the forums so they don't have to put up with them anymore. In which case, it's brilliant.
It is, in fact, even LESS intrusive then the Friend System in the game because the forums are tangential to the game you are actually playing.
Someone doesn't know how Google works, do they?
Someone apparently doesn't know how reading works.
Tell me again, what are they Googling here?
The real name they don't have because you aren't posting on the forums?
2 more hours of downtime. I really wanted to log and get some wowing down while it was still hot as balls out and get some yard work done in the late afternoon but now I have to kill time some other way.
Stupid tuesdays before expansions, this is starting to bring back shades of Vanilla Tuesdays.
Tuesdays was my day off back at my old job from 2004-2006.
Edit: Also, the various Blizzard forums will be switching to a "threaded threads" system. This will make them damn near unreadable by itself.
What's a "threaded threads" system? Is it one of those horrible things where the discussion within the thread can splinter off into various different "trees"?
Edit: Also, the various Blizzard forums will be switching to a "threaded threads" system. This will make them damn near unreadable by itself.
What's a "threaded threads" system? Is it one of those horrible things where the discussion within the thread can splinter off into various different "trees"?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's exactly it.
Keeping up with that sort of "thread" is even more impossible than a flattened thread, usually.
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It is, in fact, even LESS intrusive then the Friend System in the game because the forums are tangential to the game you are actually playing.
Someone doesn't know how Google works, do they?
Someone apparently doesn't know how reading works.
Tell me again, what are they Googling here?
The real name they don't have because you aren't posting on the forums?
Oh, it won't bother me since I won't be using it, that is very true. You are 100% correct about that. You seem to be having some issues with the idea that someone can dislike something even when they can opt out.
But lets say you decide to use it and happily post all day long on the B.NET forums. Sometimes even during some downtime at work.
Any future employer is going to Google you. They have people who do this for a living. They are very good at locating people. They will see that you post constantly on a game forum, worse a forum for a game that is known for it's retarded general population.
They can read all the date/time stamps. They can see you posting during the day, during the work week. Hell, the days you posted you may have had the day off, but the (not so) future employer won't know that. They can just see you posting during work hours.
Hell, imagine if Tube got a bug up his ass and enforced similar rules here tomorrow. Then any future employer could see your 3 pages worth of infractions. That'll look good during the job application process.
And this is just the havoc that could be wrecked with Google. We haven't even mentioned sites for looking up sex offenders, or property value lookup sites. Hell, there are a million examples on Encyclopedia Dramatica of what can happen when someone finds out a name.
This is just bizarre. How would they handle name collisions? I'm sure there is more than one John Smith that plays WoW.
Maybe they'd better display your location and phone number, too. Just to make sure everyone knows exactly who you are.
Honestly the reason why I'm so unhappy about this is that, as a privacy-minded person, the more companies that decide that it's okay to spread identifying information across the internet, the more society's norms shift to that being okay and eventually necessary.
It is, in fact, even LESS intrusive then the Friend System in the game because the forums are tangential to the game you are actually playing.
Someone doesn't know how Google works, do they?
Someone apparently doesn't know how reading works.
Tell me again, what are they Googling here?
The real name they don't have because you aren't posting on the forums?
Oh, it won't bother me since I won't be using it, that is very true. You are 100% correct about that. You seem to be having some issues with the idea that someone can dislike something even when they can opt out.
But lets say you decide to use it and happily post all day long on the B.NET forums. Sometimes even during some downtime at work.
Any future employer is going to Google you. They have people who do this for a living. They are very good at locating people. They will see that you post constantly on a game forum, worse a forum for a game that is known for it's retarded general population.
They can read all the date/time stamps. They can see you posting during the day, during the work week. Hell, the days you posted you may have had the day off, but the (not so) future employer won't know that. They can just see you posting during work hours.
Hell, imagine if Tube got a bug up his ass and enforced similar rules here tomorrow. Then any future employer could see your 3 pages worth of infractions. That'll look good during the job application process.
And this is just the havoc that could be wrecked with Google. We haven't even mentioned sites for looking up sex offenders, or property value lookup sites. Hell, there are a million examples on Encyclopedia Dramatica of what can happen when someone finds out a name.
And here's where your argument immediately fails.
You don't have to post on the forums. If you don't want people to shit up about you, don't post on the forums.
Solved.
Your complaints are meaningless. It's like bitching about getting kicked in the balls everytime you go into "Joseph Smith's Boutique of Scrotum-Foot Interaction". Maybe you should read the sign.
This is just bizarre. How would they handle name collisions? I'm sure there is more than one John Smith that plays WoW.
Maybe they'd better display your location and phone number, too. Just to make sure everyone knows exactly who you are.
Honestly the reason why I'm so unhappy about this is that, as a privacy-minded person, the more companies that decide that it's okay to spread identifying information across the internet, the more society's norms shift to that being okay and eventually necessary.
Especially from a company with enough clout to actually make it happen.
bowen on
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
It is, in fact, even LESS intrusive then the Friend System in the game because the forums are tangential to the game you are actually playing.
Someone doesn't know how Google works, do they?
Someone apparently doesn't know how reading works.
Tell me again, what are they Googling here?
The real name they don't have because you aren't posting on the forums?
Oh, it won't bother me since I won't be using it, that is very true. You are 100% correct about that. You seem to be having some issues with the idea that someone can dislike something even when they can opt out.
But lets say you decide to use it and happily post all day long on the B.NET forums. Sometimes even during some downtime at work.
Any future employer is going to Google you. They have people who do this for a living. They are very good at locating people. They will see that you post constantly on a game forum, worse a forum for a game that is known for it's retarded general population.
They can read all the date/time stamps. They can see you posting during the day, during the work week. Hell, the days you posted you may have had the day off, but the (not so) future employer won't know that. They can just see you posting during work hours.
Hell, imagine if Tube got a bug up his ass and enforced similar rules here tomorrow. Then any future employer could see your 3 pages worth of infractions. That'll look good during the job application process.
And this is just the havoc that could be wrecked with Google. We haven't even mentioned sites for looking up sex offenders, or property value lookup sites. Hell, there are a million examples on Encyclopedia Dramatica of what can happen when someone finds out a name.
And here's where your argument immediately fails.
You don't have to post on the forums. If you don't want people to shit up about you, don't post on the forums.
Solved.
Your complaints are meaningless. It's like bitching about getting kicked in the balls everytime you go into "Joseph Smith's Boutique of Scrotum-Foot Interaction". Maybe you should read the sign.
Yes, there are real applications where the forum is great at. Like, fixing in game issues, or, having the community help you with that.
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not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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kaleeditySometimes science is more art than scienceRegistered Userregular
edited July 2010
this realid thing is going to be awesome with stolen accounts
Well as a woman I feel that this is absolutely terrible, I mean it's okay since I guess I'll just never post on the WoW forums ever again but I'm worried they will keep pushing this crazy thing more and more and I'll have to quit just to protect my real identity. I doubt blizzard/activision has any women on their realID team.
It is, in fact, even LESS intrusive then the Friend System in the game because the forums are tangential to the game you are actually playing.
Someone doesn't know how Google works, do they?
Someone apparently doesn't know how reading works.
Tell me again, what are they Googling here?
The real name they don't have because you aren't posting on the forums?
Oh, it won't bother me since I won't be using it, that is very true. You are 100% correct about that. You seem to be having some issues with the idea that someone can dislike something even when they can opt out.
But lets say you decide to use it and happily post all day long on the B.NET forums. Sometimes even during some downtime at work.
Any future employer is going to Google you. They have people who do this for a living. They are very good at locating people. They will see that you post constantly on a game forum, worse a forum for a game that is known for it's retarded general population.
They can read all the date/time stamps. They can see you posting during the day, during the work week. Hell, the days you posted you may have had the day off, but the (not so) future employer won't know that. They can just see you posting during work hours.
Hell, imagine if Tube got a bug up his ass and enforced similar rules here tomorrow. Then any future employer could see your 3 pages worth of infractions. That'll look good during the job application process.
And this is just the havoc that could be wrecked with Google. We haven't even mentioned sites for looking up sex offenders, or property value lookup sites. Hell, there are a million examples on Encyclopedia Dramatica of what can happen when someone finds out a name.
And here's where your argument immediately fails.
You don't have to post on the forums. If you don't want people to shit up about you, don't post on the forums.
Solved.
Your complaints are meaningless. It's like bitching about getting kicked in the balls everytime you go into "Joseph Smith's Boutique of Scrotum-Foot Interaction". Maybe you should read the sign.
You need to grasp the idea that I totally get that I will not be effected by any of this. I am thinking of general situations in which people who aren't as privacy minded as myself could potentially fuck themselves because of this.
Realize, your entire arguement rests on people being thoughtful and thinking about things before they do something.
This is not something people are known for doing.
And I don't really think that people posting on a forum during their day off is really that unreasonable of an example.
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Well, then I am happy to admit I lost that bet, but man I wouldn't want angry nerds knowing who I was if they disliked some blue post I made. Will the CMs still opt-out was was indicated its possible to do, or do they not have a choice?
Fine by me if post quality goes up.
And pay $15/month just for that? I think not.
This isn't just WoW, this is the entirety of Battle.NET. You got any old Starcraft/Diablo II CD-keys lying around you've never applied to an account? Poof, new forums account.
Honestly, what a better way to maintain PR while cutting back the volume of posts you have to monitor and coddle.
That's unfortunate. I was going to simply change the name on the account and use time cards, so I could keep helping people in the UI forums. Oh well.
I can't fathom how they thought this was a good idea in the least. Unless it's a diabolical plan to get everyone to stop using the forums so they don't have to put up with them anymore. In which case, it's brilliant.
I've heard of people already doing that, because their main account got banned from posting on the forums.
Edit: yes, it baffles me too that there are people who would pay extra money to be able to troll the WoW forums.
"LOL PARANOID, IT'S JUST IN GAME, NOT EVERYWHERE!!!!"
Welp.
It's still paranoid and it's still just in the game.
No one is forcing you to post on any forum.
It is, in fact, even LESS intrusive then the Friend System in the game because the forums are tangential to the game you are actually playing.
Heh, I was thinking this like 5 minutes ago. I think this is a lesson to all never to post on any game's official forums. Why does Blizzard support a general discussion forum anyway? It's kind of silly.
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Because it creates a central official place for the developers to interface with the players.
If you don't have an official forum, an unofficial official forum just springs up anyway, but now the developers don't have control of it.
They certainly are guaranteeing that I never ever will. Obviously successful as the community-building endevour it's being billed as.
Someone doesn't know how Google works, do they?
It's kind of funny, because for the past few weeks, I generally played about 20 minutes of WoW each day, if that much. I still want to dispute it though, for what little it will do or mean.
Actually, I misspoke. I meant the Off Topic Discussion. The general discussion on the world of warcraft forum is still devoted to world of warcraft. I understand why they would want actual conversation regarding the game on a forum they run.
SteamID: devCharles
twitter: https://twitter.com/charlesewise
This is, in all likelihood, the very reasoning behind this. Trolls and spammers will likely stop posting en masse once they realize they have their name attached and legitimate posters who don't want their discussions on class balance or highly-viewed class guides to be the first thing any prospective employer googles up on them will follow them as well. This means their CS staff can be reduced equally dramatically, and their bandwidth costs can be slashed as well.
It's a cost-cutting and managerial decision made at the expense of good will.
Edit: Also, the various Blizzard forums will be switching to a "threaded threads" system. This will make them damn near unreadable by itself.
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
It kinda sucks if you want tech support help, though.
Because, like, web 2.0!
It's the best thing ever!
Yes, and?
I fail to see how this in anyway validates your crazy paranoia. You are still in complete control of how your real name is distributed.
Someone apparently doesn't know how reading works.
Tell me again, what are they Googling here?
The real name they don't have because you aren't posting on the forums?
Stupid tuesdays before expansions, this is starting to bring back shades of Vanilla Tuesdays.
Tuesdays was my day off back at my old job from 2004-2006.
The problem is that sections of the forums are actually the best way to get help from Blizzard Tech Support, or Game Masters.
Yeah. I can see the intention behind it, but it seems like they're really throwing the baby out with the bathwater
And that would be the only legitimate complain I've heard so far about this.
Maybe they need a better tech support system then or something.
What's a "threaded threads" system? Is it one of those horrible things where the discussion within the thread can splinter off into various different "trees"?
They don't. You're the same person, duh.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's exactly it.
Keeping up with that sort of "thread" is even more impossible than a flattened thread, usually.
Oh, it won't bother me since I won't be using it, that is very true. You are 100% correct about that. You seem to be having some issues with the idea that someone can dislike something even when they can opt out.
But lets say you decide to use it and happily post all day long on the B.NET forums. Sometimes even during some downtime at work.
Any future employer is going to Google you. They have people who do this for a living. They are very good at locating people. They will see that you post constantly on a game forum, worse a forum for a game that is known for it's retarded general population.
They can read all the date/time stamps. They can see you posting during the day, during the work week. Hell, the days you posted you may have had the day off, but the (not so) future employer won't know that. They can just see you posting during work hours.
Hell, imagine if Tube got a bug up his ass and enforced similar rules here tomorrow. Then any future employer could see your 3 pages worth of infractions. That'll look good during the job application process.
And this is just the havoc that could be wrecked with Google. We haven't even mentioned sites for looking up sex offenders, or property value lookup sites. Hell, there are a million examples on Encyclopedia Dramatica of what can happen when someone finds out a name.
Honestly the reason why I'm so unhappy about this is that, as a privacy-minded person, the more companies that decide that it's okay to spread identifying information across the internet, the more society's norms shift to that being okay and eventually necessary.
And here's where your argument immediately fails.
You don't have to post on the forums. If you don't want people to shit up about you, don't post on the forums.
Solved.
Your complaints are meaningless. It's like bitching about getting kicked in the balls everytime you go into "Joseph Smith's Boutique of Scrotum-Foot Interaction". Maybe you should read the sign.
Especially from a company with enough clout to actually make it happen.
Yes, there are real applications where the forum is great at. Like, fixing in game issues, or, having the community help you with that.
You need to grasp the idea that I totally get that I will not be effected by any of this. I am thinking of general situations in which people who aren't as privacy minded as myself could potentially fuck themselves because of this.
Realize, your entire arguement rests on people being thoughtful and thinking about things before they do something.
This is not something people are known for doing.
And I don't really think that people posting on a forum during their day off is really that unreasonable of an example.