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Bitching Thread IV: I Must Break You (of bad comics)

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  • Unco-ordinatedUnco-ordinated NZRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Solar wrote: »
    Buying a book because it is incredibly lame is a time-honoured pastime. Sure it makes no sense from a logical standpoint but sometimes you just have to see it for yourself. See Rise of Arsenal #3.

    I think I was more annoyed by the combination of that AND his comments that Superman has "potential" but this is "every 'Batfans' (as if every Batman fan is a douchey Superman hater) criticism of the character made manifest". Surprise surprise, shit comics are shit. What exactly was he expecting? I guess he's going to read Widening Gyre next and oh no, Batman had so much potential but it's blah, blah, etc.

    'sides, I do think it's pretty poor form buying shit comics new. Wait until the shop drops the price a bit or just go read the really crappy parts at Scans Daily or something.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    wait a minute here

    are you telling me frank miller's comedy classic all star batman is bad?

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    wait a minute here

    are you telling me frank miller's comedy classic all star batman is bad?

    It is the best in modern humour.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Claiming your shitty comic was supposed to be a parody doesn't automatically make it an actual parody

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    uh yes it does

    if you made it to be a parody, it is a parody

    it might not be a good one

    but it is still a parody

    because you know, you made it to be one

    that's like saying just because you write a story doesn't mean it is a story

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    And I don't think it was made to be a parody

    I think it was retroactively declared as one after everyone thought it was awful

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    if it is a parody - it is brilliant

    if it isn't a parody - it is still hilarious

    either way, I'm happy

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Did Miller every say it was a parody? If he hasn't, it can't be counted.

    Like with Superman, JMS seriously believes that is how the guy should act. It's more a delusion of the writer.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    The fact that Miller considers AB&R to be in the same continuity as Batman Year One and DKR leads me to believe that no, it was never supposed to be a parody.

    And really the only reason I care about how much ass that book sucks is that it's supposed to be the bridge between two infinitely better stories.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Furu wrote: »
    The fact that Miller considers AB&R to be in the same continuity as Batman Year One and DKR leads me to believe that no, it was never supposed to be a parody.

    And really the only reason I care about how much ass that book sucks is that it's supposed to be the bridge between two infinitely better stories.

    Does Miller disown DK2 then, since that would mean this Dick is actually the crazy one in that story?

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    No I just didn't feel like mentioning DKSA when I said "better stories"

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    You mean Barry Allen in biker shorts isn't a recipe for success?

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    but it doesn't suck at all furu

    it is hilarious

    he beats green lantern by drinking lemonade

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited August 2010
    All Star Batman is better than Young Allies

    it will also last for more issues

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    well that's just a given

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Keith wrote: »
    All Star Batman is better than Young Allies

    it will also last for more issues

    Look I can't even get fake-mad at you when you have Koala Gardner

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2010
    the thing is, he isn't even stealing any spotlight in that preview

    he is just being a leader and doing what the leader of a team does

    An undeserving leader. There I said it.

    He was just a weed in the army, got given super bufness which he in turn used to bed a bevy of women well beyond his prior pay-grade and magically became super tactical and bad-ass.

    Nova started off from nothing and BECAME a hero and those abs? He does sit ups god damnt.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    the whole force of nova prime just being handed to him on a silver platter is not starting off from nothing

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2010
    It didn't give him skill, ability or a body to die for any more than a GL ring does.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    like I am trying to understand your asinine and stupid argument

    but there are so many levels of idiocy I cannot decipher just how wrong you are

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  • Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    This is either the worst argument or the best coming out speech.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2010
    TLB, I liked you better when you just kinda clowned about and didn't have any realistic opinions.

    Cap for the last few years has been a pain, not a Rulk pain, just a glaring pain, like after you stand for too long and your feet get sore. He was right in Civil War but he did it in an ass-tastic way using ridiculous reasoning and ultimately he died a traitor after having got a bunch of his friends arrested or killed and helping, alongside Stark, to bring about Secret Invasion. He's a symbol, but he is but a genetically enhanced man and when he's shoehorned into fights against the fucking Sentry, he gets tiresome.

    Its the Sentry.

    The Sentry.

    And somewhere in the back of his mind he felt that throwing his shield at him would be a useful addition to the fight. You know when Norman told Taskmaster off for getting involved with Thor? He'd have said the same thing to Cap, "go do something useful".

    Nova on the other hand has just been on a continual rise for the past few years, he was able to avoid involvement in WWH, SI and CW preserving his character, he saved the universe a bunch, fought off the Phalanx virus, got it on with Gamorrah, absorbed the entirety of the Nova Force and defeated Ego and the Worldmind to save a tonne of ill-trained, innocent Nova recruits, He was a low-ranking Earth hero and hes gone out and become capable, through experience, to lead groups against universe destroying entities.

    And now hes working for Steve Rogers doing recon on Mars for some reason.

    Now thats not to say Cap is the worst character at the moment, far from it, Rulk is the obvious candidate there and Cap is at least better than Stark who not only helped bring about WWH, SI and CW but also Dark Reign and the murder of Black Goliath. He is directly or indirectly responsible for the few last world-changing events in a bad way and got a blank slate on it all and is still unrepentantly smug.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    TLB I thought you were smarter than to try to argue with DarkWarrior

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I am not going to argue

    Sometimes it is fun to prod the bear with downs syndrome and watch him fumble as he tries to maul you

    only he can't because he is too dumb

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2010
    There's choosing not to argue and being unable to do so.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Hey TLB is Sentry Duty dead? Like the Sentry?

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    It is deader than the Sentry

    I might do something with it myself, on my own time, but I ain't lettin' no outside factors in

    You people be lazy

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    There's choosing not to argue and being unable to do so.

    yes

    I choose not to, and you are unable to do so

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2010
    I'm fairly sure you're wrong on both counts.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    what's Sentry Duty

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    TLB's comic he wanted the forums to draw, but it ended up like Daredevil: The Target.

    Kevin Smith and TLB have something in common!

    (it actually was a nice concept but everyone who was supposed to draw it didn't, acting like Dave Finch and Van Sciver and all that)

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    on the good side, my artist at least finished a page and a half!

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    A funny write up of X-Men #2 compared to Ultimate Avengers 3 #1

    Apparently Millar is making vampires religious?

    (and did anyone who read X-Men #2 see if X-Man showed up yet?)

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited August 2010
    It is deader than the Sentry

    I might do something with it myself, on my own time, but I ain't lettin' no outside factors in

    You people be lazy

    me and fedora just reunited last night, too!

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  • spookymuffinspookymuffin ( ° ʖ ° ) Puyallup WA Registered User regular
    edited August 2010

    I just want to say that the last couple of pages of this thread is possibly the best thing I've read all day. I've also been awake for 24 minutes, so that's not saying much.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Like I said before, I think Rulk is a perfectly workable and even intriguing character in the right hands. Those hands just do not belong to Jeph Loeb. I also agree with TLB, that there is no such thing as a bad character, just bad characterization/writing.

    Anyway, I caught a scan of Thanos Imperative and it just sucks that in the cancerverse that Ms. Marvel was able to be at Mar-Vell's bedside when he was dying on Titan instead of in the 616 where she wasn't in Death of Captain Marvel and missed being able to say goodbye to the man she loved so much that why she became a g-d superhuman/hero (since the pscyho-magnetron was basically a wishing machine) because she was stuck in Limbo being raped by Marcus.

    tl; dr - Jim Shooter can get fucked up the ass sideways with a rusted Buick.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'm interested to see what Bendis and Parker can do with Rulk.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Parker, yes.

    Bendis, no.

    He'll make Red Hulk like a female Moonstone, the worst characterization he's done since Scarlet Witch.

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  • TheSecretSeventhTheSecretSeventh GARegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    yeah i could care less about rulk joining the avengers

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