I got 16. That ain't too bad but I do struggle on the more paler greens and reds.
Also, you guys who have pretty bad colorblindness should totally use this thread to ask if a certain game might be tricky for you. I guess it could alleviate some of the frustration of buying something only to not being able to play it?
I got 16. That ain't too bad but I do struggle on the more paler greens and reds.
Also, you guys who have pretty bad colorblindness should totally use this thread to ask if a certain game might be tricky for you. I guess it could alleviate some of the frustration of buying something only to not being able to play it?
Good call. I'll certainly remember to do that in the future.
I think this also partially explains why I am sort of drawn away from modern/jungle warfare games. I like FPS's just fine, but if there's any realistic camouflage involved in the game I don't pay it any attention at all. I never even considered picking up MW or MW2.
Not colorblind myself, but on a semi-similar note I would like to take this post to bitch about all the fuckwit software developers who code their stuff in such a way that the color scheme is either a forced version of the Windows Standard and is thus searing as fuck for some people, or fucking half-ass it so that while it reads bits and pieces of your chosen color scheme it does it in such a way that the program is completily unusable (forced grey/white background, but white text taken from High Contrast Black. Yeah, that's a real fucking help you dipshits).
Oh, red/green LEDs can go to hell too. I've lost track of the number of times I've lost all my progress in a DS game because the light turned red and I had no idea my battery was about to die.
How about bright blue/red LEDs?
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I got 16. That ain't too bad but I do struggle on the more paler greens and reds.
Also, you guys who have pretty bad colorblindness should totally use this thread to ask if a certain game might be tricky for you. I guess it could alleviate some of the frustration of buying something only to not being able to play it?
In that same vein there should probably be a list of games that are colorblind friendly and a list of games that aren't in the OP
I got a 39 in that test. I think I just got tired of moving blocks one left or one right. I feel sorry for those who are colorblind. I like to pride myself in saying things like "God, that's an ugly color of red on their walls".
World of Warcraft has a colour blind mode, but it just adds a fuckload of text to everything to explain what it is rather than it just being 'red = bad' and so on, last time I checked anyhow.
World of Warcraft has a colour blind mode, but it just adds a fuckload of text to everything to explain what it is rather than it just being 'red = bad' and so on, last time I checked anyhow.
That sort of crap isn't necessary. Cluttering up the screen is just as bad as not giving enough information to discern what's hostile or not. Just put a little mean-looking skull above things that are trying to kill you or something.
Neitz’s team injected their monkeys’ eyes with viruses carrying a gene that makes L-opsin, one of three proteins released when color-detecting cone cells are hit by different wavelengths of light. Male squirrel monkeys naturally lack the L-opsin gene; like people who share their condition, they’re unable to distinguish between red and green.
At first, the two monkeys behaved no differently than before. Though quick to earn a grape juice reward by picking out blue and yellow dots from a background of gray dots on a computer screen, they banged the screen randomly when presented with green or red dots.
But after five months, something clicked. The monkeys picked out red and green, again and again. At the biological level, Neitz can’t say precisely what happened — the monkeys, named Sam and Dalton, are alive and healthy, their brains unscanned and undissected — but their actions left no doubt.
just makes me feel rubbish. I can literally see A and then the right halves of H and I.
I got a 22, which I didn't think was bad at all until people with lower scores started saying how colorblind they were. I've never noticed any colors as being different to me from what other people say they are. Maybe I just did it badly? :?
Edit1: I got a perfect score on the Archimedes test, and now that I know what to look for I can vaguely see the no in that one only colorblind people can see. It's sort of scrambled though.
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Interestingly, this word is only visible if you are colorblind
I got a 16 on that test, but I can still see that picture saying "No" (that is what it says right?).
"No" was my guess looking at that picture, because there's a very subtle lime series of dots connecting with the dim-yellow dots that make it look that way.
Uhhh... no idea. Does it tell you on the test? Cause I forgot to save my data for that. I could do it again but... it makes my head hurt.
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To be fair, I eat shit at MGS3 even though I try to be super stealthy, so I'm crawling up soldier's asses and hitting traps like nobody's business anyway
You just gotta be harder core, baby
You must develop preternatural awareness of your surroundings
My most extreme story was when I was 8 or 10, I played this Addams Family game called 'Fester's Quest' on the NES. It was a pretty standard 2-D overhead explore/shoot kind of game, not broken up into levels, like a Metroidvania. But what I remember being so frustrating about the game was that there were these orbs that upgraded your weapon, and also these orbs that downgraded your weapon. Now, in retrospect, I can assume they were different colors, probably green/red, but at the time, all I knew was that sometimes I would grab an orb and it would make my weapon better, and sometimes I would grab an orb and it would make my weapon worse.
So after a while, what I did was try to get lucky by grabbing all the orbs until I got a weapon that was alright, and then I stopped getting orbs entirely. I remember the parts of that game that were further in were really, really hard, and I assume that was because I was still using a level-3 weapon instead of level-15 or whatever.
I also really like puzzle games, things like the Mean Bean Machine, but man, if there's not a color-blind option I am pretty screwed. Usually there are green/red/yellows, and those are all pretty bad for me, and also there are blues/purples, which are the /worst/ for me. On the test, in the range I identified as blue/purple, my bars were pretty much all the way up. Seriously, devs, it's pretty freakin' easy to make very distinct symbols for each color. A lot of those kinds of games (Zuma from Popcap is a particularly bad offender) are both speed-based and have intricate symbols that don't differ that dramatically. That means I'm expected to be able to tell them apart at a glance, but I really have to look for a couple of seconds in order to do so, and that's enough to make the game much much harder than it should be.
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I really think devs would make the minor tweaks for colorblindness if they were consciously aware.
I don't think it's something a lot of people think about in making games.
We should start a campaign to get members of press websites and magazines to press developers on efforts they're taking to make games colorblind friendly. Hitting them at E3 and GDC would be good times for it. GDC seems more appropriate.
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Oh, red/green LEDs can go to hell too. I've lost track of the number of times I've lost all my progress in a DS game because the light turned red and I had no idea my battery was about to die.
Ha, all too true. When I'm playing DS on the couch at night, my wife has gotten in the habit of looking over my shoulder every twenty or thirty minutes so she can tell me if the battery is low. :?
Weirdly (and remembering I am officially colour blind) that looks on casual glance to say 'FUCK UP COLOR TURD'.
It does stand out fairly convincingly, just parts of the letters vanish for me. I just put it together using the parts of my brain that do work.
That's because you're connecting the darker dots, rather than reading the red ones. Grayscaling the image achieves a similar effect (ie, you can read something).
I got a 127 on that hue 100 test, with the greenish blues being my weakness (I was rearanging the 3rd bar for about a minute before my eyes catched up a saw that I ordering them the wrong way.)
Anyway, haven't played MGS3, but in 90% of cases, I don't have enough trouble to notice any problem. Unless they are bright neon-y colors, then they can go to hell.
Like in DoW2's FFA mode. I know, and if I stare long enough, can see that the team colors are green, yellow, pink, purple, dark blue, and orange, (red and light blue are the non-FFA colors, so they can't use those) but when I'm trying to do an at-a-glance judgment (which is really all you can normally do in an RTS) the colors are yellow-ish, blue-ish, orange and pink... and sometimes, that's only if they are not near any neighboring colors from the color wheel.
Logical Fucking Journey of the Zoombinis. Thank god for tilting the monitor.
Such a good game, but such a color-blind unfriendly game as well. I mostly got around it by restricting which noses I took on any run, but that broke down in the puzzle with the filters.
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Puzzle Quest was another game I'd like to think was designed with colorblindness in mind. The blocks had little runs on them, and the green had what looked like a 3 and the yellow had a 4 (or vice versa). Very very helpful.
I'm forever known in my game groups as the guy who has dibs on black when game pieces are concerned. I still mostly can't play Catan or Risk because two or three of the colors look identical, so even if I know which pieces are mine I feel like I'm against one gigantic brown foe rather than the green and red one.
Actually, I recall people who weren't colorblind having issues with Puzzle Quest because Green and Yellow sort of looked alike? I didn't have an issue, but some people did.
Yeah, Puzzle Quest was slightly annoying to me. I could see the difference between yellows and greens (the symbols were an E and an A, as in earth and air), but just barely, so I kept trying to combine them.
Also distinguishing epic and rare items in WoW was a bitch, but later I found an addon for that.
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The only way I was able to tell what color a Yoshi was in Super Mario World was to eat something and spit it out. I had to make sure to do so in a place that, if it was a green shell, it wouldn't hit something and come rocketing back into me.
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The only way I was able to tell what color a Yoshi was in Super Mario World was to eat something and spit it out. I had to make sure to do so in a place that, if it was a green shell, it wouldn't hit something and come rocketing back into me.
Logical Fucking Journey of the Zoombinis. Thank god for tilting the monitor.
Such a good game, but such a color-blind unfriendly game as well. I mostly got around it by restricting which noses I took on any run, but that broke down in the puzzle with the filters.
That was one of my favorite games ever. Still is. I think I'll go get it and play it again...
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I got a 68 on the Hue test. At first i thought it was really bad since i thought it was out of 100. But i feel a little better that i only have trouble with blues and purples.
This really made me sad before hand since im an aspiring artist but I guess there are workarounds for that.
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Yeah, Puzzle Quest was slightly annoying to me. I could see the difference between yellows and greens (the symbols were an E and an A, as in earth and air), but just barely, so I kept trying to combine them.
Also distinguishing epic and rare items in WoW was a bitch, but later I found an addon for that.
Ahhhh ... see, E and A makes a lot of sense on those. My brain just said, "backwards 3, funny 4." Too much leet speak in my blood. :? Those letters were the only reason I could play the game as much as I did. I can see how non-colorblind folks would get confused, though. If they were used to using colors to distinguish things in games and all of a sudden had to look for other cues ... Rare vs. Epic in WoW is pretty much indistinguishable without the CB assist. Was really glad they put it in around the same time I started getting epic drops. I always screw up my green and red when sorting my Magic cards, too (if I'm going really fast just looking at borders, not mana symbols).
I felt pretty good about that test and was kind of afraid I may have done better on it than I expected. Nope: 90. Sorry to all you 200+ guys out there.
I'd probably wager, though, that I have the highest score of anyone here who's regularly paid for graphic design work.
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Also, you guys who have pretty bad colorblindness should totally use this thread to ask if a certain game might be tricky for you. I guess it could alleviate some of the frustration of buying something only to not being able to play it?
Good call. I'll certainly remember to do that in the future.
I think this also partially explains why I am sort of drawn away from modern/jungle warfare games. I like FPS's just fine, but if there's any realistic camouflage involved in the game I don't pay it any attention at all. I never even considered picking up MW or MW2.
I had no idea. Weird that.
Youtube Channel!
http://www.archimedes-lab.org/colorblindnesstest.html#testcolor
just makes me feel rubbish. I can literally see A and then the right halves of H and I.
How about bright blue/red LEDs?
In that same vein there should probably be a list of games that are colorblind friendly and a list of games that aren't in the OP
The XL actually has this
No joke dude
A list of which games are colorblind compatible would be much, much shorter than a list of games that aren't, though.
That sort of crap isn't necessary. Cluttering up the screen is just as bad as not giving enough information to discern what's hostile or not. Just put a little mean-looking skull above things that are trying to kill you or something.
They've cured color vision deficiency in primates with gene therapy. They're beginning human trials soon.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/colortherapy/
I got a 22, which I didn't think was bad at all until people with lower scores started saying how colorblind they were. I've never noticed any colors as being different to me from what other people say they are. Maybe I just did it badly? :?
Edit1: I got a perfect score on the Archimedes test, and now that I know what to look for I can vaguely see the no in that one only colorblind people can see. It's sort of scrambled though.
I really think devs would make the minor tweaks for colorblindness if they were consciously aware.
"No" was my guess looking at that picture, because there's a very subtle lime series of dots connecting with the dim-yellow dots that make it look that way.
That's the best image in the world. It's the ultimate version of insulting people in a foreign language. They can never know!
Pity the URL gives it away.
Uhhh... no idea. Does it tell you on the test? Cause I forgot to save my data for that. I could do it again but... it makes my head hurt.
It does stand out fairly convincingly, just parts of the letters vanish for me. I just put it together using the parts of my brain that do work.
You just gotta be harder core, baby
You must develop preternatural awareness of your surroundings
My most extreme story was when I was 8 or 10, I played this Addams Family game called 'Fester's Quest' on the NES. It was a pretty standard 2-D overhead explore/shoot kind of game, not broken up into levels, like a Metroidvania. But what I remember being so frustrating about the game was that there were these orbs that upgraded your weapon, and also these orbs that downgraded your weapon. Now, in retrospect, I can assume they were different colors, probably green/red, but at the time, all I knew was that sometimes I would grab an orb and it would make my weapon better, and sometimes I would grab an orb and it would make my weapon worse.
So after a while, what I did was try to get lucky by grabbing all the orbs until I got a weapon that was alright, and then I stopped getting orbs entirely. I remember the parts of that game that were further in were really, really hard, and I assume that was because I was still using a level-3 weapon instead of level-15 or whatever.
I also really like puzzle games, things like the Mean Bean Machine, but man, if there's not a color-blind option I am pretty screwed. Usually there are green/red/yellows, and those are all pretty bad for me, and also there are blues/purples, which are the /worst/ for me. On the test, in the range I identified as blue/purple, my bars were pretty much all the way up. Seriously, devs, it's pretty freakin' easy to make very distinct symbols for each color. A lot of those kinds of games (Zuma from Popcap is a particularly bad offender) are both speed-based and have intricate symbols that don't differ that dramatically. That means I'm expected to be able to tell them apart at a glance, but I really have to look for a couple of seconds in order to do so, and that's enough to make the game much much harder than it should be.
I don't think it's something a lot of people think about in making games.
We should start a campaign to get members of press websites and magazines to press developers on efforts they're taking to make games colorblind friendly. Hitting them at E3 and GDC would be good times for it. GDC seems more appropriate.
Ha, all too true. When I'm playing DS on the couch at night, my wife has gotten in the habit of looking over my shoulder every twenty or thirty minutes so she can tell me if the battery is low. :?
Just sayin'.
Anyway, haven't played MGS3, but in 90% of cases, I don't have enough trouble to notice any problem. Unless they are bright neon-y colors, then they can go to hell.
Like in DoW2's FFA mode. I know, and if I stare long enough, can see that the team colors are green, yellow, pink, purple, dark blue, and orange, (red and light blue are the non-FFA colors, so they can't use those) but when I'm trying to do an at-a-glance judgment (which is really all you can normally do in an RTS) the colors are yellow-ish, blue-ish, orange and pink... and sometimes, that's only if they are not near any neighboring colors from the color wheel.
Such a good game, but such a color-blind unfriendly game as well. I mostly got around it by restricting which noses I took on any run, but that broke down in the puzzle with the filters.
Yeah, Puzzle Quest was slightly annoying to me. I could see the difference between yellows and greens (the symbols were an E and an A, as in earth and air), but just barely, so I kept trying to combine them.
Also distinguishing epic and rare items in WoW was a bitch, but later I found an addon for that.
Confined to a tiny spit of sand, unable to escape,
But tonight, it's heavy stuff.
What is the saddest thing?
That was one of my favorite games ever. Still is. I think I'll go get it and play it again...
This really made me sad before hand since im an aspiring artist but I guess there are workarounds for that.
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Ahhhh ... see, E and A makes a lot of sense on those. My brain just said, "backwards 3, funny 4." Too much leet speak in my blood. :? Those letters were the only reason I could play the game as much as I did. I can see how non-colorblind folks would get confused, though. If they were used to using colors to distinguish things in games and all of a sudden had to look for other cues ... Rare vs. Epic in WoW is pretty much indistinguishable without the CB assist. Was really glad they put it in around the same time I started getting epic drops. I always screw up my green and red when sorting my Magic cards, too (if I'm going really fast just looking at borders, not mana symbols).
I felt pretty good about that test and was kind of afraid I may have done better on it than I expected. Nope: 90. Sorry to all you 200+ guys out there.
I'd probably wager, though, that I have the highest score of anyone here who's regularly paid for graphic design work.
I really feel for you colourblind people, it must be fucking hard to life with this.
i'm green red colorblind but it said blue and green. huh?
whatever