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Giant Otters care for the elderly, and other Science!

UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIREBUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
edited October 2010 in Social Entropy++
Hello Science thread!

It's been an interesting couple of months. I've found some neat science stories on my own, but without you around I worry that I'm missing awesome scientific news.

To start us off, research has shown that humans are not the only species that cares for their elderly - a researcher has observed Giant Otters assisting and sharing prey with an aging matriarch who begged for food after being unable to hunt enough for herself. This isn't a "Dru is old" joke, though it does bode well for his retirement.
A human behavior that is rarely documented in animals is long-term assistance to elderly family members. Anecdotal reports have appeared previously describing events in which sick or injured family members received short-term assistance, particularly in cooperative species such as African Elephants (Loxodonta africana), African Wild Dogs (Lycaon pictus), Mountain Gorillas (Gorilla gorilla berengei) and Bonobos (Pan paniscus). However, to my knowledge, no other study has reported details of ongoing assistance to aid a declining elder in a family of wild animals, in this case including prey-sharing over an extended period of time.


It's also been a good couple of months for the defenders of science. Dr. Simon Singh successfully defended himself against libel charges from the British Chiropractic Association after he had the nerve to accuse them of knowingly peddling fake and often dangerous treatments, rather than doing so unknowingly. This sets a good precedent, as there had been concern that a finding in favour of the BCA would validate using libel actions to block legitimate scientific inquiry and debate.

Also in Britain,
the British Medical association has voted to recommend that National Health Service no longer fund homeopathic treatments, and that the treatments no longer be marketed as medicine in pharmacies. There looks to be a good chance of it going through, as the House of Commons' Science and Technology Committee made a similar recommendation in February. For those of you unsure of what Homeopathy is, or why funding it and treating it as a legitimate medical practice, watch one of these videos. I'm not sure which is better at demonstrating how silly it all is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWE1tH93G9U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd64lbDPack

Of course, there are some claims that banning homeopathy funding would actually make it more powerful:
Just as Homeopathy relies on the fact that water can remember what was in it even when it’s no longer there, homeopaths claim the memory of previous funding will allow them to continue to grow their practices.

How about you, SE++? What cool science have you found in the last couple months?

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    ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Every time I see that fucking video. YOU CAN CROSS OUT THE MASS. YOUR EYES RECEIVE LIGHT

    edit: Also James Randi is a boss and I wish I could see him speak somewhere

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    haha oh man yes homeopathy you will fucking burn

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    Typhoid MannyTyphoid Manny Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Randi for president

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Artreus wrote: »
    Every time I see that fucking video. YOU CAN CROSS OUT THE MASS. YOUR EYES RECEIVE LIGHT

    edit: Also James Randi is a boss and I wish I could see him speak somewhere

    I'm going to see him speak at TAM Sydney in a few months 8-)

    Also check this out - the world's largest digital camera that is being used to search for previously unsearchable Near Earth Objects.
    Every 30 seconds PS1 snaps a 1,400-megapixel shot of a section of sky as large as 36 full moons—a view 3,600 times larger than the Hubble Space Telescope’s main camera. One of these images would produce a 300-dpi print covering half a basketball court.

    In total the telescope gathers enough data to fill a thousand DVDs (nearly five terabytes) every night and maps a sixth of the sky each month. It can also see objects ten times fainter than previous surveys.

    These abilities are key to discovering not only killer space rocks but huge numbers of much more common phenomena, from planet-size bodies in our solar system to far-flung cosmic cataclysms.

    “For example, we have been able to find more explosive astronomical phenomena (like supernova explosions) in one month than the entire astronomical community found in a whole year,” Berger said by email.

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    show me that smile again

    don't waste another minute on your cryin'

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Shoe I like your new theme there

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    VALVEjunkieVALVEjunkie Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    giant river otters are terrifying

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    HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    giant river otters are terrifying

    Show me on the doll where the giant river otter touched you.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Hunter wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    giant river otters are terrifying

    Show me on the doll where the giant river otter touched you.

    my butte

    also, they are 6 feet long, carnivorous and fiercely territorial

    they're like goddamned river ninjas too boot

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Hunter wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    giant river otters are terrifying

    Show me on the doll where the giant river otter touched you.

    my butte

    also, they are 6 feet long, carnivorous and fiercely territorial

    they're like goddamned river ninjas too boot

    but they're so CUTE!

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    iotm-march2009-770px.jpg

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    What

    What is this

    it's a lady who doesn't know anything about science trying to use science to justify bullshit

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    Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    that's one pissed-off looking otter

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I really want to walk up to that lady and be like

    HEY YOU KNOW HOW MATTER DOESN'T REALLY EXIST COMPARED TO ENERGY

    WELL COMPARED TO ELECTRO-MAGNETISM, GRAVITY BARELY EXISTS!

    and she just starts floating away

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    iotm-march2009-770px.jpg

    1053531038_c04301cf04_o.jpg

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Your science megathread makes me SICK

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    HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    #pipe wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    What

    What is this

    it's a lady who doesn't know anything about science trying to use science to justify bullshit

    But as she goes on and has less and less understanding of science, then homeopathy should work better.

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Your science megathread makes me SICK

    Take 2 sugar pills and call me in the morning.

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Actually my granola doctor put me on a strict regiment of ear candles.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'm trying to leave her video on in the background while I'm browsing other stuff but it's shutting down my higher brain functionsssssdfgnmtrjnvrknlomjrgvnkn

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    HunterHunter Chemist with a heart of Au Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Actually my granola doctor put me on a strict regiment of ear candles.

    Unless you ingest colloidal silver while surrounded by crystals, that shit won't work.

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    I'm trying to leave her video on in the background while I'm browsing other stuff but it's shutting down my higher brain functionsssssdfgnmtrjnvrknlomjrgvnkn

    I love that video. I honestly couldn't decide whether Randi systematically dismantling their bullshit or her spewing it made homeopathy look sillier.

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Actually my granola doctor put me on a strict regiment of ear candles.

    your doctor put you on top of a large group of soldiers?

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    FedoraFedora Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    woo, science.

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    #pipe wrote: »
    Actually my granola doctor put me on a strict regiment of ear candles.

    your doctor put you on top of a large group of soldiers?

    oh that's not the only thing she put "on top" of me

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    Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    ok that lady is her own unique brand of totally flippin nuts

    e: ok I am super duper not-down with homeopathy but this lady is a league above even among homeopaths

    the concept never makes sense, but the people who believe in it are not all like this woman

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    ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I had a friend who was totally convinced ear candles worked. Otherwise he is a pretty smart guy, I wonder if he ever found out how dumb/dangerous they are.

    Critical thinking is pretty important.

    I am being so controversial in this thread right now

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    #pipe wrote: »
    Actually my granola doctor put me on a strict regiment of ear candles.

    your doctor put you on top of a large group of soldiers?

    oh that's not the only thing she put "on top" of me

    the joke here is that you wrote "regiment" but meant "regimen"

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I finished reading "The Pluto Files" by Neil deGrasse Tyson last week and started right up on "Death by Black Hole".

    I highly suggest both books. They're awesome. And Tyson is quickly becoming one of my favourite dudes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aadYN5OPKN8

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
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    FedoraFedora Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Only kind of homeopathic medicine I want to try is voodoo medicine. I want stories about snake spirits and cloven footed gentlemen wearing suits before I try to drink something that's 1 part raw eggs and 2 parts peyote.

    Any science that ends with you screaming in a walmart is good science.

    Or bad science.

    Or mad science.
    I know nothing of science, I apologize for ruining your smart people thread.

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    GeoMitchGeoMitch Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    9fwmK.jpg

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    GeoMitch wrote: »
    9fwmK.jpg

    I love everything about this

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    #pipe wrote: »
    #pipe wrote: »
    Actually my granola doctor put me on a strict regiment of ear candles.

    your doctor put you on top of a large group of soldiers?

    oh that's not the only thing she put "on top" of me

    the joke here is that you wrote "regiment" but meant "regimen"
    she put her regiment on top of me too

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    Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    #pipe wrote: »
    Shoe I like your new theme there

    thanks

    he's so inanimate

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    #pipe wrote: »
    GeoMitch wrote: »
    9fwmK.jpg

    I love everything about this

    please tell me this is a parody

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    GeoMitchGeoMitch Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    nah. I was on a computer without adblock and saw it on myspace.

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    GeoMitchGeoMitch Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    then I went to the beach and saw like a whole flock of buffbirds

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