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[WoW] Have you been posting? I'm sorry but I'll have to see some [RealID]!

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  • mturalonmturalon Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'd put a Nike Swoosh on my raid gear if they paid my repair bills.

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Phew. Now I can buy Cataclysm guilt-free.

    I mean... I hate WoW. Yeah. That's what I said.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    mturalon wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »

    Has she d/led any new addons recently?

    nope

    Then I very much doubt it was an addon. Unless she installed one between now and when RealID was first introduced.

    There's not much information people can get about your character without you deliberately sending it to them.

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  • LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Actually order playboys in his kids' names.

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  • formatformat Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Mutilate wrote: »
    mturalon wrote: »
    Lorahalo wrote: »

    holy poop, the players won.

    Or they're lulling you into a false sense of security before they pull another questionable change. In game advertisements don't sound too bad in comparison to having your name plastered all over the internet, do they?

    Queue into LFD. Loading screen pops up "Heroic Oculus brought to you by Gold Bond Medicated Powder"


    HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD
    HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD

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    You don't know if I am joking or not.
  • SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Lilnoobs wrote: »
    Actually order Juggs in his name.
    Even better!

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  • formatformat Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    i am glad i am not locked out of the bug report and suport forums anymore

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  • LockeColeLockeCole Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Well its not like curse (where most random people get their addons) has ever been comprised before... oh wait.

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  • OhtsamOhtsam Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    format wrote: »
    Mutilate wrote: »
    mturalon wrote: »
    Lorahalo wrote: »

    holy poop, the players won.

    Or they're lulling you into a false sense of security before they pull another questionable change. In game advertisements don't sound too bad in comparison to having your name plastered all over the internet, do they?

    Queue into LFD. Loading screen pops up "Heroic Oculus brought to you by Gold Bond Medicated Powder"


    HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD
    HEAD ON APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD


    We already had adds in the old bnet as long as they aren't retardedly intrusive I don't mind. Just keep them out of the ui once I'm actually playing the game and not going through menus

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Lorahalo wrote: »

    Fuck yeah! Good job Blizzard.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I am concerned about this "Fine guys, stop being big babies" approach. Because it hits on the forum issue well, but not the rest of the issues they're opening up. Like facebook integration. Or the fact that there's no way to hide my real name at all for whatever their future plans are.

    I'm surprised it took this long, it should've taken half the time for them to go, "Oh holy fuck, what did we just do?"

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    bowen wrote: »
    I am concerned about this "Fine guys, stop being big babies" approach. Because it hits on the forum issue well, but not the rest of the issues they're opening up. Like facebook integration. Or the fact that there's no way to hide my real name at all for whatever their future plans are.

    I'm surprised it took this long, it should've taken half the time for them to go, "Oh holy fuck, what did we just do?"

    Oh please. "We strongly believe that Every Voice Matters, ( http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/mission.html ) and we feel fortunate to have a community that cares so passionately about our games. We will always appreciate the feedback and support of our players, which has been a key to Blizzard's success from the beginning."

    It's part of the damn mission statement and they followed through BEFORE implementing any kind of change.

    It's a victory for the players because it means they know 100% that when shit like this happens there will be an uproar. Thus if they want to do anything like it, they have to be more careful.

    Which also drives home the ball to Kotick and Activision, hopefully.

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  • TheKoolEagleTheKoolEagle Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    well now we have nothing to bitch about, i guess i'll get back to being bored at work D:

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  • SaerisSaeris Borb Enthusiast flapflapflapflapRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    mturalon wrote: »
    Mutilate wrote: »
    mturalon wrote: »
    Sexy...

    Female friend of mine just confirmed that there is a script going around that doesn't require you to update any malicious addons to find your Real ID info.

    They didn't download anything at all recently, and unless something was already on her PC (doubtful) you can access peoples real names now just by running it on their toon name.

    So sadly with this bit of information, now knowing that random people and not just 'friends of friends' can see your name... this changes things.


    Hopefully all this hullabaloo about security gets heard, but I'll be turning this off and those two people I talked to using it will now have to text me instead.

    /sigh

    I am fairly confident that saeris, who knows an infinite amount more about these things than the majority of us, has already debunked this. In fact I think he actually posted said script a few pages back.

    I just got a call from said friend saying, and I quote.

    I haven't downloaded any new addons, only have 3 friends on my ID (me her BF and another RL friend of mine) and she just got a whisper in game from random guildie saying... Hey XXXXX is short for XXXXXXXXX and YYYYYY is your last name right?


    Said guildie isn't on her friends list...said they got it using a script.

    For me, that's enough to not care that someone I don't know on a forum 'debunked it' I'll go with what my friend has actually told me.

    I'm always open to the possibility that I'm wrong, but I am almost 100% confident on this one. Maybe you could ask this fellow for the script he used? If this is indeed possible, I can post it to the UI forums in the developers thread right away so it can be fixed.

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  • mturalonmturalon Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I'll see if they'd email it to me

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Corehealer wrote: »

    Hahaha, this is awesome.

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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    bowen wrote: »
    I am concerned about this "Fine guys, stop being big babies" approach. Because it hits on the forum issue well, but not the rest of the issues they're opening up. Like facebook integration. Or the fact that there's no way to hide my real name at all for whatever their future plans are.

    I'm surprised it took this long, it should've taken half the time for them to go, "Oh holy fuck, what did we just do?"

    This.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    bowen wrote: »
    I am concerned about this "Fine guys, stop being big babies" approach. Because it hits on the forum issue well, but not the rest of the issues they're opening up. Like facebook integration. Or the fact that there's no way to hide my real name at all for whatever their future plans are.

    I'm surprised it took this long, it should've taken half the time for them to go, "Oh holy fuck, what did we just do?"

    It was announced, what, Tuesday? I think it has been a reasonable turnaround. A day to go "oh shit", a second day to make sure people don't change their minds / discuss alternatives, and another day to come to a decision on an alternative. I don't quite like the tone used in the announcement (too PR-crafted) but whatever.

    Conspiracy Theory: Maybe RealID was just a scam to get us to accept a shitty threaded forum style.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Corehealer wrote: »

    Hahaha, this is awesome.
    I feel this may be where the tide turned.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    So I guess we won for now?

    Still, my trust in Blizzard's been pretty badly shaken, and I doubt I'll be able to work up any frothing demand for their games any more.

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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The real name bit may be gone, but the problems of Facebook integration and the current direction of Blizzard with this remain.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    I am concerned about this "Fine guys, stop being big babies" approach. Because it hits on the forum issue well, but not the rest of the issues they're opening up. Like facebook integration. Or the fact that there's no way to hide my real name at all for whatever their future plans are.

    I'm surprised it took this long, it should've taken half the time for them to go, "Oh holy fuck, what did we just do?"

    Oh please. "We strongly believe that Every Voice Matters, ( http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/mission.html ) and we feel fortunate to have a community that cares so passionately about our games. We will always appreciate the feedback and support of our players, which has been a key to Blizzard's success from the beginning."

    It's part of the damn mission statement and they followed through BEFORE implementing any kind of change.

    It's a victory for the players because it means they know 100% that when shit like this happens there will be an uproar. Thus if they want to do anything like it, they have to be more careful.

    Which also drives home the ball to Kotick and Activision, hopefully.

    You missed something there. Yeah they squelched concern about the forums, but not about the facebook integration which is where the real "oh shit" might come from. However if it's opt-in, and not "well, opt-in, but, if you don't, half the game won't work for you like being able to group with real-id friends xserver, or whatever," then, that's great news.

    I will still be skeptical, and you will still have a huge chip on your shoulder because of it.

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    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Isn't the Facebook integration stuff actually optional though?

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    This announcement shouldn’t endear Blizzard. At best, they’ve betrayed the trust of their customers… thus the customers need to be ever more vigilant than before. If a bully threatens to take away your candy, and then decides to do it later when no one is looking, do you trust and love the bully for letting you keep your candy, however temporary it might be?

    This comment on Lum's blog stuck out to me.

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    What is this facebook integration we keep going on about? Is it just a prediction?

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Isn't the Facebook integration stuff actually optional though?

    It has to be. Because regardless of if they'll force you to connect to a facebook, just make a new informationless one.


    But yes, I'd assume it'd be optional entirely.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Blizzard/Activision is still going to be hustling RealID. That much has not changed.

    The only thing that's changed is that they're going to be more careful and subtle about it.

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    It's rolled back, what more do you want?

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  • Shorn Scrotum ManShorn Scrotum Man Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    well now we have nothing to bitch about, i guess i'll get back to being bored at work D:

    Now if they would just remove the real name stuff from the friend system. If it could all just be done off a permanent alias, I would be as happy as could be.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    korodullin wrote: »
    This announcement shouldn’t endear Blizzard. At best, they’ve betrayed the trust of their customers… thus the customers need to be ever more vigilant than before. If a bully threatens to take away your candy, and then decides to do it later when no one is looking, do you trust and love the bully for letting you keep your candy, however temporary it might be?

    This comment on Lum's blog stuck out to me.

    That's not an appropriate analogy. That's more, "Bully tries to take your candy, you get indignant at the bully and yell at him till he says fine you can keep your candy, geez" and leaves.


    "when no one is looking" is rather disingenuous.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I guess it shouldn't really take 45,000 forum posts in one thread alone to tell you that a basic violation of privacy is not a good idea.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    well now we have nothing to bitch about, i guess i'll get back to being bored at work D:

    Now if they would just remove the real name stuff from the friend system. If it could all just be done off a permanent alias, I would be as happy as could be.

    Or you could just turn it off and let those of us that want to use it (Like me) enjoy it.

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  • AsumaAsuma Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    As a result of those discussions, we've decided at this time that real names will not be required for posting on official Blizzard forums.

    Not to rain on the victory parade, but this is not going away. The persons responsible for Real ID have only backed off on the most controversial aspect, in the face of overwhelming opposition at a critical date. This was a huge PR diverson from the upcoming Starcraft II launch. Depending on future customer reaction, they could very well try to re-implement at a later date.

    You still cannot opt out of friends of friends or hide your real name in-game, and the coming integration with Facebook should at the very least make one cautious.

    The main thing we can be happy about is their executives are not entirely tone deaf to the community.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Asuma wrote: »
    As a result of those discussions, we've decided at this time that real names will not be required for posting on official Blizzard forums.

    Not to rain on the victory parade, but this is not going away. The persons responsible for Real ID have only backed off on the most controversial aspect, in the face of overwhelming opposition at a critical date. This was a huge PR diverson from the upcoming Starcraft II launch. Depending on future customer reaction, they could very well try to re-implement at a later date.

    You still cannot opt out of friends of friends or hide your real name in-game, and the coming integration with Facebook should at the very least make one cautious.

    The main thing we can be happy about is their executives are not entirely tone deaf to the community.
    Yes you can! TURN IT OFF!

    There's a switch! FLIP THE SWITCH.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    well now we have nothing to bitch about, i guess i'll get back to being bored at work D:

    Now if they would just remove the real name stuff from the friend system. If it could all just be done off a permanent alias, I would be as happy as could be.

    If I could be Tomanta instead of <real name> I would almost certainly use it. I wouldn't link it to facebook because fuck, no one there cares if I just escaped from Arthas in HHoR for the 50th time.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    captaink wrote: »
    It's rolled back, what more do you want?

    Using a real name as an identifier is still a hazardous privacy/security concern, this is just the difference between a slow balloon leak and the Hindenburg.


    And if, if, there is a way to get someone's real name in-game via a script, it's right back to Hindenburg levels. Or worse, really, since there'd be no opt-out and people wouldn't even know someone was looking.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    korodullin wrote: »
    This announcement shouldn’t endear Blizzard. At best, they’ve betrayed the trust of their customers… thus the customers need to be ever more vigilant than before. If a bully threatens to take away your candy, and then decides to do it later when no one is looking, do you trust and love the bully for letting you keep your candy, however temporary it might be?

    This comment on Lum's blog stuck out to me.

    This is kinda how I feel. It's like cheering and rewarding somebody for not killing somebody today.

    Glad they're not doing it. But common sense would have told anybody not to do it in the first place.

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  • MadpandaMadpanda suburbs west of chicagoRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Asuma wrote: »
    As a result of those discussions, we've decided at this time that real names will not be required for posting on official Blizzard forums.

    Not to rain on the victory parade, but this is not going away. The persons responsible for Real ID have only backed off on the most controversial aspect, in the face of overwhelming opposition at a critical date. This was a huge PR diverson from the upcoming Starcraft II launch. Depending on future customer reaction, they could very well try to re-implement at a later date.

    You still cannot opt out of friends of friends or hide your real name in-game, and the coming integration with Facebook should at the very least make one cautious.

    The main thing we can be happy about is their executives are not entirely tone deaf to the community.
    Yes you can! TURN IT OFF!

    There's a switch! FLIP THE SWITCH.

    IF you want to use RealID though in the first place you not only need to trust your friends but also their friends with your real name.

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Scooter wrote: »
    captaink wrote: »
    It's rolled back, what more do you want?

    Using a real name as an identifier is still a hazardous privacy/security concern, this is just the difference between a slow balloon leak and the Hindenburg.


    And if, if, there is a way to get someone's real name in-game via a script, it's right back to Hindenburg levels. Or worse, really, since there'd be no opt-out and people wouldn't even know someone was looking.

    It's not a script. If you install an addon that has certain code, your realID can be looked at by non-friends. Still a problem, but at least it's something you can control yourself.

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  • mturalonmturalon Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    well now we have nothing to bitch about, i guess i'll get back to being bored at work D:

    Now if they would just remove the real name stuff from the friend system. If it could all just be done off a permanent alias, I would be as happy as could be.

    Given this is what they're doing with forum posts, its the next logic step to just roll this out to everything Real ID related. Time will tell of course, and Blizzard isn't often logical.

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