Robos that's because, like Young Allies, this isn't exactly a "team book"
"It's not a team, at least not in the traditional sense," explains Lanning of the sprawling cast. "[There is] a structure that allows mission-specific teams to be 'hired' depending on the type of problem that's got to be solved. So there will be some really fun and often unexpected guest star combos, depending on what the threat is. Characters often get 'hired' without realizing how or why they're being used."
"However, we don't want the book to feel like a disjointed team-up title," chimes in Abnett. "There is also a very strong, intriguing ongoing story driving the series along underneath the missions in each issue.
Even if we're looking at a rotating cast, it's still unusual for characters this varied to associate with each other at all.
I'm accustomed to thinking of Iron Fist, Punisher, and Ghost Rider occupying entirely different universes, even if they all technically fit within the same large world.
Punisher and Ghost Rider have teamed up before to fight Blackheart. Also, Frank was just a frankenstein monster. Hanging with GR isn't totally out of his area anymore.
Okay, see, I don't get why Kingpin is suddenly doing magic and why Ghost Rider suddenly has a connection to the Hand. Even if all of this should be technically possible because of the shared universe, we're still looking at some serious dissonance.
Most of the little titles are gonna get cancelled or re-labelled into a Maxi-Series, shit happens mon frere. It may only last a year or six months or whatever, but you know what, i'm probably gonna enjoy it for that small amount of time and move on when it gets inevitably shit canned.
Most of the little titles are gonna get cancelled or re-labelled into a Maxi-Series, shit happens mon frere. It may only last a year or six months or whatever, but you know what, i'm probably gonna enjoy it for that small amount of time and move on when it gets inevitably shit canned.
thank you
there is nothing more annoying than people talking about a minor series like they're just eagerly waiting for it to fail
I really hope that this doesn't fail, Abnett and Lanning are good enough writers for me to look forward to Heroes for Hire by themselves. Hopefully there will be something Cosmic coming out of the Thanos Imperative, maybe a single Guardians book?
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If there was a title that I might pick up a single or two for, it's H4H. But I dislike singles, sooo...
TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
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I'm all for Heroes for Hire, and hopefully it can get to 25-30 issues without problems.
In regards to other books failing (Young Allies), it's not so much wanting them to fail when they are really good, but realizing that every other book at that sales level gets the axe without question. I like Young Allies but 14k for the last issue is well below the cancel line for a regular universe Marvel title.
They canceled New Invaders at a higher level, Atlas, Exiles, Doctor Voodoo.
I can't wait for the day that digital comics at DC and Marvel are mature enough that a book's life cycle will include an option to go all digital when the print sales slip below profitability. I'd pay a couple dollars each for books like Atlas and H4H if they were release digitally.
It's kinda weird the only recent comic Marvel has in digital format is the 3 issue Hit-Monkey miniseries. And that's just on the PSN, don't know if it's on the other digital formats.
Best of luck to anyone reading this who's on staff at DC Comics, today.
Well, that's ominous. There's been talk of the DC offices being relocated so that they're closer to Warner Brothers, so I have to imagine this is related to that.
It's kinda weird the only recent comic Marvel has in digital format is the 3 issue Hit-Monkey miniseries. And that's just on the PSN, don't know if it's on the other digital formats.
As well as bundles and recent comics I think Marvel and DC need to take the step of making all number 1s on their digital service free.
In an ideal world, this is how I'd like to see digital comics done:
-Back issues would be sold in bundles that decrease in price, as you buy more of them. So you can buy say, Thunderbolts 1-10 for five bucks. Or you can buy 1-20 for nine bucks. Or 1-50 for twenty bucks. Individual issues would be seventy-five cents. Because honestly, that stuff is otherwise just going to sit around not making money.
-Anything between six months and two years old would be a dollar.
-Anything up to six months old, including the newest issue, would be the standard digital price of two dollars.
Really, I think that companies should recognize that, when you make something cheaply available, it can encourage people that otherwise wouldn't buy it, to do so.
For example: My LCS long had rows upon rows of back-issue bins, that sat mostly untouched. Why? Because they're all marked up substantially over cover price, with most stuff, even things that originally cost a dollar, being sold for $3.50. Then they had a massive sale, each day making things cheaper, from 30% off, to 40%, to 50%, all the way up to 90% off. On that final day, I wound up walking out with three longboxes full of JLI, Hourman, Young Heroes in Love, etc. I spent something like $200. Because it was a deal too good to pass up.
I don’t like giving away plans, but we are continuing to look at viable platforms and how we can bring a good consumer experience to them for comic books. We are always trying to be an experience better than a scanned PDF. That is the competition. There is only so much you can do. There will always be piracy. What we have to do, working with our partners like Graphic.ly, is offer a consumer experience that is reasonably priced and better than what you can do with piracy. If you do all that, I think at the end of the day, you will have a viable business.
Best of luck to anyone reading this who's on staff at DC Comics, today.
Well, that's ominous. There's been talk of the DC offices being relocated so that they're closer to Warner Brothers, so I have to imagine this is related to that.
Dang. I don't really care about most of the Wildstorm Universe titles, but it sucks that stuff like Mysterius the Unfathomable might be cast into publishing limbo. Representatives are quick to point out that the Wildstorm properties will resurface again, but I imagine it'll be a while.
I'll give the new Heroes For Hire a year tops before it gets canceled.
God I'm kidding sick of this attitude
Listen, with the creative team it will be a good book I don't doubt that. If I like it, which I probably will, I'll recommend it to whoever will listen at work. I just don't see this book lasting.
Planetary is one of my most personally-important comics. Because it's like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, but about comics, and also I can understand more than the surface level of it?
The Authority is one of my favorite guilty pleasures. It's had some shoddy writing over its lifetime, but I love the characters, the power sets (I think some of them are pretty unique, specifically Jack Hawksmoor and the Doctor's powers), and many of the concepts in the comics. It's easy to dismiss the Authority as being mindless, glorified ultraviolence, but (1) there were some genuinely smart ideas in many of the stories, and (2) sometimes, it's fun to read too-macho characters doing over-the-top things.
On th eother hand, Planetary's finished, and I haven't read the Authority in years. Still, sad to see Wildstorm go.
Planetary is one of my most personally-important comics. Because it's like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, but about comics, and also I can understand more than the surface level of it?
The Authority is one of my favorite guilty pleasures. It's had some shoddy writing over its lifetime, but I love the characters, the power sets (I think some of them are pretty unique, specifically Jack Hawksmoor and the Doctor's powers), and many of the concepts in the comics. It's easy to dismiss the Authority as being mindless, glorified ultraviolence, but (1) there were some genuinely smart ideas in many of the stories, and (2) sometimes, it's fun to read too-macho characters doing over-the-top things.
On th eother hand, Planetary's finished, and I haven't read the Authority in years. Still, sad to see Wildstorm go.
As far as new properties go, there is very little that it does that Vertigo doesn't, and all of it's original titles are floundering.
What I want to know is what imprint DC is going to print all of those video game tie in comics under.
but eff you robos, the champions was the best team this side of the daydreamers
See, this is why TLB is my forever-bro. He likes The Daydreamers.
It was just such a fantastic idea
They really need to come back
I miss Artie so much
Also Tana Nile
she is not a traitor
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I really would have just moved everything to California. Offer people the option to move out there, and just a clean break.
As it stands, from what I gather, Didio would still be in NYC with DC Comics but basically everyone else in that top 5 would be in LA, so Didio would have to fly out there every week or two or video conference (I think Lee lives in California?). Kind of wonder if this is an attempt to push Didio away from the top group/make him quit.
I mean if I was Diane Nelson, I would look at the comics division right now and see delays that have made the Bat books not be on shelves to buy, a Superman story that is 95% ridiculed by readers while he is absent in all his other titles, and a complete lack of "middle of the road" sales figures from other books (DC is either at the top with the GL/Batman books or below 30k with other books, few are in that middle range). That doesn't look good for the head of that division one year into the creation of DC Entertainment. And dead cats being used as clubs.
As far as new properties go, there is very little that it does that Vertigo doesn't, and all of it's original titles are floundering.
Well, that's true - when I told a co-worker what I said here about Planetary and Authority, he said "They could have been released under Vertigo and you wouldn't have known the difference." Which is pretty true.
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I don't like the idea of The Authority in the DC Universe.
Yeah, I'm a bit concerned by their specific mention that Geoff Johns has plans for them. Sure Johns' rapey rapey murder murder shtick would fit well with them but then Wildstorm writers usually did that stuff well, Johns manages to make it both disgusting and offputting.
I really feel sorry for most of the people that work at Wildstorm. DC have treated the entire line like shit since they bought it, this is just them finally burying the long dead corpse of the company.
I really feel sorry for most of the people that work at Wildstorm. DC have treated the entire line like shit since they bought it, this is just them finally burying the long dead corpse of the company.
Really, I think the greatest problem is that, at the height of Wildstorm's success, it was doing something no one else was. Now, there's virtually no difference between the DC Universe where Superboy Prime casually punches heroes' heads off, and the universe the Authority exists in. At least from a violence/sexual content perspective.
My LCS got a Chaos War checklist and the entire story will be 19 issues total. Still better than Shadowland I guess, and honestly the whole story seems very interesting.
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I read the explanation for why Ghost Rider is suddenly involved with Daredevil, and it made no sense to me.
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Kingpin used hand magic to bind a spirit of vengeance to carry out his own personal vengeance. That spirit was Ghost Rider.
Punisher and Ghost Rider have teamed up before to fight Blackheart. Also, Frank was just a frankenstein monster. Hanging with GR isn't totally out of his area anymore.
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God I'm kidding sick of this attitude
thank you
there is nothing more annoying than people talking about a minor series like they're just eagerly waiting for it to fail
In regards to other books failing (Young Allies), it's not so much wanting them to fail when they are really good, but realizing that every other book at that sales level gets the axe without question. I like Young Allies but 14k for the last issue is well below the cancel line for a regular universe Marvel title.
They canceled New Invaders at a higher level, Atlas, Exiles, Doctor Voodoo.
edit: and on the subject of cancelling (not really), Marvel is moving offices, 60k sq. feet/9 year deal in Sports Illustrated Building
Does this mean the swimsuit issues are coming back?
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It's on comixology as well
-Back issues would be sold in bundles that decrease in price, as you buy more of them. So you can buy say, Thunderbolts 1-10 for five bucks. Or you can buy 1-20 for nine bucks. Or 1-50 for twenty bucks. Individual issues would be seventy-five cents. Because honestly, that stuff is otherwise just going to sit around not making money.
-Anything between six months and two years old would be a dollar.
-Anything up to six months old, including the newest issue, would be the standard digital price of two dollars.
Really, I think that companies should recognize that, when you make something cheaply available, it can encourage people that otherwise wouldn't buy it, to do so.
For example: My LCS long had rows upon rows of back-issue bins, that sat mostly untouched. Why? Because they're all marked up substantially over cover price, with most stuff, even things that originally cost a dollar, being sold for $3.50. Then they had a massive sale, each day making things cheaper, from 30% off, to 40%, to 50%, all the way up to 90% off. On that final day, I wound up walking out with three longboxes full of JLI, Hourman, Young Heroes in Love, etc. I spent something like $200. Because it was a deal too good to pass up.
I will say, this interview concerning Marvel's digital programs is encouraging.
Yes, a thousand times yes. That said, the whole Graphic.ly comment system's really just asking for trouble.
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Wildstorm and Zuda lines discontinued, as DC restructures.
Dang. I don't really care about most of the Wildstorm Universe titles, but it sucks that stuff like Mysterius the Unfathomable might be cast into publishing limbo. Representatives are quick to point out that the Wildstorm properties will resurface again, but I imagine it'll be a while.
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Listen, with the creative team it will be a good book I don't doubt that. If I like it, which I probably will, I'll recommend it to whoever will listen at work. I just don't see this book lasting.
The Authority is one of my favorite guilty pleasures. It's had some shoddy writing over its lifetime, but I love the characters, the power sets (I think some of them are pretty unique, specifically Jack Hawksmoor and the Doctor's powers), and many of the concepts in the comics. It's easy to dismiss the Authority as being mindless, glorified ultraviolence, but (1) there were some genuinely smart ideas in many of the stories, and (2) sometimes, it's fun to read too-macho characters doing over-the-top things.
On th eother hand, Planetary's finished, and I haven't read the Authority in years. Still, sad to see Wildstorm go.
As far as new properties go, there is very little that it does that Vertigo doesn't, and all of it's original titles are floundering.
What I want to know is what imprint DC is going to print all of those video game tie in comics under.
It was just such a fantastic idea
They really need to come back
I miss Artie so much
Also Tana Nile
As it stands, from what I gather, Didio would still be in NYC with DC Comics but basically everyone else in that top 5 would be in LA, so Didio would have to fly out there every week or two or video conference (I think Lee lives in California?). Kind of wonder if this is an attempt to push Didio away from the top group/make him quit.
I mean if I was Diane Nelson, I would look at the comics division right now and see delays that have made the Bat books not be on shelves to buy, a Superman story that is 95% ridiculed by readers while he is absent in all his other titles, and a complete lack of "middle of the road" sales figures from other books (DC is either at the top with the GL/Batman books or below 30k with other books, few are in that middle range). That doesn't look good for the head of that division one year into the creation of DC Entertainment. And dead cats being used as clubs.
I guess this means Astro City will be Busiek's to take wherever he wants to?
Well, that's true - when I told a co-worker what I said here about Planetary and Authority, he said "They could have been released under Vertigo and you wouldn't have known the difference." Which is pretty true.
She says that the NYC would not be a satellite branch, but it really is if everything else moves to California.
edit: DC staff to be cut about 20%
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http://twitter.com/KurtBusiek
Yeah, I'm a bit concerned by their specific mention that Geoff Johns has plans for them. Sure Johns' rapey rapey murder murder shtick would fit well with them but then Wildstorm writers usually did that stuff well, Johns manages to make it both disgusting and offputting.
I really feel sorry for most of the people that work at Wildstorm. DC have treated the entire line like shit since they bought it, this is just them finally burying the long dead corpse of the company.
They are just now talking to Busiek, but books under licensed properties will just be under the DC banner after December and finish up their runs.
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