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So as an enormous fan of fallout, i am very displeased with myself with the fact that i havent played any old pc rpgs. Besides diablo 1 and 2, of course. any recommendations?
oh, and my pc is only a pentium III, which is why im in my current dilemma of not knowing what to play.
Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 are obligatory. As is Planescape.
If you've ever read any of Raymond E. Feist's books, then Betrayal at Krondor is brilliant. Especially since it was released as a free download a few years back.
So i just looked up a bunch of these games, and i am sold on planescape. Looks like my kind of RPG crack. Speaking of, me and a couple friends were thinking about starting up D2 again. Is it still a huge cummunity? Or has the entire online population started playing Wow, esp. with the new expansion?
EDIT: After reading what mc has to say, i am again quite torn. It seems more researching is to be done!
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Depends how "old school" we're talking. Bard's Tale is an absolute classic...but in my opinion hasn't aged well. Might and Magic: World of Xeen was fun, and in my opinion one of the best in its style. If you haven't played Ultima 7: The Black Gate (followed by Part 2: The Serpent Isle) you need to get on that shit, like now. And yes, Icewind Dale was pretty schweet.
As far as I know all of the above will run just fine on a Pentium III. Hell, on all of them but Icewind Dale (and possibly for that one) the hard part will be getting them to run due to wonky DOS issues. But they're all worth it...except maybe Bard's Tale.
And seriously, go play some damn Ultima. Black Gate and Serpent Isle (plus Forge of Virtue and Silver Seed, the expansions). The ones before are probably a bit too old school, and the ones after weren't great. But those two were fucking amazing.
I think 4, 5, and 6 all aged really well.
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You really should play Wasteland (and maybe Fountain Of Dreams) if you loved Fallout so much.
If i buy ultima, and i got windows xp, is it going to be a huge bitch to get up and running? A friend of mine lent me System Shock 2 and i had a hard time just getting that to run.
If i buy ultima, and i got windows xp, is it going to be a huge bitch to get up and running? A friend of mine lent me System Shock 2 and i had a hard time just getting that to run.
Yes, it is. Abandonware is a euphemism for pirated software that is no longer supported by the publisher.
Anyway, I recommend the Quest For Glory series. If you can find it.
Edit: As for Torment, the writing was pretty much all there was to it. I found it worth playing for that alone, and so I was able to live with the boring-ass gameplay.
Yes, it is. Abandonware is a euphemism for pirated software that is no longer supported by the publisher.
Anyway, I recommend the Quest For Glory series. If you can find it.
Edit: As for Torment, the writing was pretty much all there was to it. I found it worth playing for that alone, and so I was able to live with the boring-ass gameplay.
Color me corrected.
However, I was under the impression that many abandonware titles were no longer affected by copyright, as it had passed or some such.
Anyway, I recommend the Quest For Glory series. If you can find it.
As for the Ultima series, I highly recommend you try Ultima 8: Pagan and Ultima Underworld 1&2 in addition to U7 Parts I&II. The Underworlds are flawless; and while U8 was released early and didn't have everything that was promised, it was still a great game (once patched).
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Exile series , and its more recent relative Avernum series
Get the Forgotten realms old crpg's, like Pools of radiance, Pools of darkness
Curse of the azure bonds (that one was motherfucking hard), etc.
Eye of the beholder series.
Savage Frontier lot.
i was a bit surprised when you mentioned Balders gate as an oldschool, heck i dont really consider fallout to be that oldschool either.
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However, I was under the impression that many abandonware titles were no longer affected by copyright, as it had passed or some such.
Is this true?
No. Abandonware is copyright infringement pure and simple.
A lot of abandonware or ROM sites walk a fine line by only releasing games that aren't available for sale. They claim that they are morally justified (since they aren't affecting sales), even if they are technically breaking the law. The problem with this is that they are devaluing the potential value of the software if it is later re-released. For example, I know plenty of people who refuse to buy Virtual Console games because they "downloaded the ROM for free years ago".
The only free games are ones that have been explicitly released for free by their rights-holders.
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Albion
Dink Smallwood
Exile series , and its more recent relative Avernum series
Get the Forgotten realms old crpg's, like Pools of radiance, Pools of darkness
Curse of the azure bonds (that one was motherfucking hard), etc.
Eye of the beholder series.
Savage Frontier lot.
i was a bit surprised when you mentioned Balders gate as an oldschool, heck i dont really consider fallout to be that oldschool either.
That's cause they're not old school. They were part of what I like to call the "Golden Age Of RPGs".
Anyway, I recommend the Quest For Glory series. If you can find it.
Having just played through 4, and finally getting around to 5, I second this recommendation with gusto. Fun adventure games with a tasty RPG flavor and stat-porting across the series for the eternal win. :^:
Yes, it is. Abandonware is a euphemism for pirated software that is no longer supported by the publisher.
Anyway, I recommend the Quest For Glory series. If you can find it.
Edit: As for Torment, the writing was pretty much all there was to it. I found it worth playing for that alone, and so I was able to live with the boring-ass gameplay.
Color me corrected.
However, I was under the impression that many abandonware titles were no longer affected by copyright, as it had passed or some such.
The length of the copyright term within the United States was extended by the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act, which made the copyright term the life of the author plus 70 years for works created after January 1, 1978. In the case of a work of corporate authorship (also known as "Work for Hire") the term will be 95 years from the date of first publication or 120 years from the date of creation, whichever expires first.
As I'm sure you're aware, there are no pieces of software anywhere that are 95 years old.
The only software (and thus games) which are legally public domain are those which have been specifically placed in the public domain by the copyright owner.
Campion: Yes. Betrayal at Krondor, Betrayal at Antara, and Return to Krondor.
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Baldurs Gate?
(Planescape: Torment)
EDIT: Maybe not "old school" enough, but Neverwinter Nights was a blast. Especially all the mods and such.
If you've ever read any of Raymond E. Feist's books, then Betrayal at Krondor is brilliant. Especially since it was released as a free download a few years back.
EDIT: After reading what mc has to say, i am again quite torn. It seems more researching is to be done!
I think 4, 5, and 6 all aged really well.
Haha. Noooooo...noooo...ahahaha
ok, ok, read the faq on the site. im an idiot. or just gullible. more like, just lazy.
Any of the older Ultimas are probably better off in DosBox.
SS2 booted right up on XP for me.
This is one of my favorite games of all time. I agree, probably the best in the style.
However, it isn't exactly Illegal. I suggest talking to a Mod before posting more.
You also can´t go wrong with Baldur´s Gate II.
Wizardry 7? BAM! Party-wiping encounter before you even get to the first city.
Eye of the Beholder 2? It's so freaking hard to stay alive the developers put in a ressurection shrine even before the first level of the dungeon.
Yeah, my list is short, but there would be no reason to repeat what has already been said, as that would be the rest of my list.
But definitley on some Torment. Morty is hilarious.
Getting going in Crusaders Of The Dark Savant was a motherfucker. So worth it once you get going though. Probably in my top 5 RPGs of all time.
And I know this is kinda blasphemy, but while the writing was great, I wasn't impressed with Torment.
What about Torment did you find unimpressive?
Oh, and old games being hard is half the reason I love them so much.
Anyway, I recommend the Quest For Glory series. If you can find it.
Edit: As for Torment, the writing was pretty much all there was to it. I found it worth playing for that alone, and so I was able to live with the boring-ass gameplay.
Color me corrected.
However, I was under the impression that many abandonware titles were no longer affected by copyright, as it had passed or some such.
Is this true?
Steampunk/Fantasy in a Westernish setting. Yum.
As for the Ultima series, I highly recommend you try Ultima 8: Pagan and Ultima Underworld 1&2 in addition to U7 Parts I&II. The Underworlds are flawless; and while U8 was released early and didn't have everything that was promised, it was still a great game (once patched).
Dink Smallwood
Exile series , and its more recent relative Avernum series
Get the Forgotten realms old crpg's, like Pools of radiance, Pools of darkness
Curse of the azure bonds (that one was motherfucking hard), etc.
Eye of the beholder series.
Savage Frontier lot.
i was a bit surprised when you mentioned Balders gate as an oldschool, heck i dont really consider fallout to be that oldschool either.
The gameplay was just "blah". I don't know. I love the Planescape setting and all.
No. Abandonware is copyright infringement pure and simple.
A lot of abandonware or ROM sites walk a fine line by only releasing games that aren't available for sale. They claim that they are morally justified (since they aren't affecting sales), even if they are technically breaking the law. The problem with this is that they are devaluing the potential value of the software if it is later re-released. For example, I know plenty of people who refuse to buy Virtual Console games because they "downloaded the ROM for free years ago".
The only free games are ones that have been explicitly released for free by their rights-holders.
That's cause they're not old school. They were part of what I like to call the "Golden Age Of RPGs".
To many 15 y/o's running around the boards.
Having just played through 4, and finally getting around to 5, I second this recommendation with gusto. Fun adventure games with a tasty RPG flavor and stat-porting across the series for the eternal win. :^:
Now playing: Teardown and Baldur's Gate 3 (co-op)
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No.
As I'm sure you're aware, there are no pieces of software anywhere that are 95 years old.
The only software (and thus games) which are legally public domain are those which have been specifically placed in the public domain by the copyright owner.
Campion: Yes. Betrayal at Krondor, Betrayal at Antara, and Return to Krondor.