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Old School PC RPGs

FrostofLifesBaneFrostofLifesBane Registered User regular
edited January 2007 in Games and Technology
So as an enormous fan of fallout, i am very displeased with myself with the fact that i havent played any old pc rpgs. Besides diablo 1 and 2, of course. any recommendations?

oh, and my pc is only a pentium III, which is why im in my current dilemma of not knowing what to play.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
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  • rayofashrayofash Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Ultima? Might and Magic? Bards Tale? Wizardry?

    Baldurs Gate?

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Motherfucking Torment on a motherfucking Planescape.

    (Planescape: Torment)

    EDIT: Maybe not "old school" enough, but Neverwinter Nights was a blast. Especially all the mods and such.

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  • hambonehambone Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Can't go wrong with Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale and Planescape Torment.

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  • FrostofLifesBaneFrostofLifesBane Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Oh wow, Black Isle has got their dirty hands all over this shit. I must be missing out.

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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    PLANESCAPE TORMENT

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  • MarlorMarlor Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 are obligatory. As is Planescape.

    If you've ever read any of Raymond E. Feist's books, then Betrayal at Krondor is brilliant. Especially since it was released as a free download a few years back.

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  • FrostofLifesBaneFrostofLifesBane Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    So i just looked up a bunch of these games, and i am sold on planescape. Looks like my kind of RPG crack. Speaking of, me and a couple friends were thinking about starting up D2 again. Is it still a huge cummunity? Or has the entire online population started playing Wow, esp. with the new expansion?

    EDIT: After reading what mc has to say, i am again quite torn. It seems more researching is to be done!

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    mcdermott wrote:
    Depends how "old school" we're talking. Bard's Tale is an absolute classic...but in my opinion hasn't aged well. Might and Magic: World of Xeen was fun, and in my opinion one of the best in its style. If you haven't played Ultima 7: The Black Gate (followed by Part 2: The Serpent Isle) you need to get on that shit, like now. And yes, Icewind Dale was pretty schweet.

    As far as I know all of the above will run just fine on a Pentium III. Hell, on all of them but Icewind Dale (and possibly for that one) the hard part will be getting them to run due to wonky DOS issues. But they're all worth it...except maybe Bard's Tale.

    And seriously, go play some damn Ultima. Black Gate and Serpent Isle (plus Forge of Virtue and Silver Seed, the expansions). The ones before are probably a bit too old school, and the ones after weren't great. But those two were fucking amazing.

    I think 4, 5, and 6 all aged really well.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    You really should play Wasteland (and maybe Fountain Of Dreams) if you loved Fallout so much.

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  • FrostofLifesBaneFrostofLifesBane Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    EDIT: i am an idiot, excuse me.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    i found ultima 7 on a site called abandonia. Free download because it is abandoned software? is this true?

    Haha. Noooooo...noooo...ahahaha

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    i found ultima 7 on a site called abandonia. Free download because it is abandoned software? is this true?
    I would suggest not talking about this sort of thing. Abandonware isn't exactly legal.

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  • FrostofLifesBaneFrostofLifesBane Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Esh wrote:
    i found ultima 7 on a site called abandonia. Free download because it is abandoned software? is this true?

    Haha. Noooooo...noooo...ahahaha

    ok, ok, read the faq on the site. im an idiot. or just gullible. more like, just lazy.

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  • FrostofLifesBaneFrostofLifesBane Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    If i buy ultima, and i got windows xp, is it going to be a huge bitch to get up and running? A friend of mine lent me System Shock 2 and i had a hard time just getting that to run.

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  • hambonehambone Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I suggest you edit those posts before a mod sees. You should also read the rules stickied at the top of the forums.

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  • hambonehambone Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    The best way to play Ultima 7 on modern computers is through Exult.

    Any of the older Ultimas are probably better off in DosBox.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    If i buy ultima, and i got windows xp, is it going to be a huge bitch to get up and running? A friend of mine lent me System Shock 2 and i had a hard time just getting that to run.

    SS2 booted right up on XP for me.

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  • AmnioticAmniotic Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    mcdermott wrote:
    ... Might and Magic: World of Xeen was fun, and in my opinion one of the best in its style...

    This is one of my favorite games of all time. I agree, probably the best in the style.

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  • SceptreSceptre Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Pancake wrote:
    i found ultima 7 on a site called abandonia. Free download because it is abandoned software? is this true?
    I would suggest not talking about this sort of thing. Abandonware isn't exactly legal.

    However, it isn't exactly Illegal. I suggest talking to a Mod before posting more.

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  • RaggieRaggie Schattenjäger Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I´ve had no problems whatsoever running Ultima VII with Exult. Both are highly recommended.

    You also can´t go wrong with Baldur´s Gate II.

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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    This old stuff reminds me how pussified this generation of gamers are.

    Wizardry 7? BAM! Party-wiping encounter before you even get to the first city.

    Eye of the Beholder 2? It's so freaking hard to stay alive the developers put in a ressurection shrine even before the first level of the dungeon.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Dink Smallwood was a fucking riot when I played it.



    Yeah, my list is short, but there would be no reason to repeat what has already been said, as that would be the rest of my list.

    But definitley on some Torment. Morty is hilarious.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    WHY wrote:
    This old stuff reminds me how pussified this generation of gamers are.

    Wizardry 7? BAM! Party-wiping encounter before you even get to the first city.

    Eye of the Beholder 2? It's so freaking hard to stay alive the developers put in a ressurection shrine even before the first level of the dungeon.

    Getting going in Crusaders Of The Dark Savant was a motherfucker. So worth it once you get going though. Probably in my top 5 RPGs of all time.

    And I know this is kinda blasphemy, but while the writing was great, I wasn't impressed with Torment.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Esh wrote:
    WHY wrote:
    This old stuff reminds me how pussified this generation of gamers are.

    Wizardry 7? BAM! Party-wiping encounter before you even get to the first city.

    Eye of the Beholder 2? It's so freaking hard to stay alive the developers put in a ressurection shrine even before the first level of the dungeon.

    Getting going in Crusaders Of The Dark Savant was a motherfucker. So worth it once you get going though. Probably in my top 5 RPGs of all time.

    And I know this is kinda blasphemy, but while the writing was great, I wasn't impressed with Torment.

    What about Torment did you find unimpressive?

    Oh, and old games being hard is half the reason I love them so much.

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Sceptre wrote:
    However, it isn't exactly Illegal.
    Yes, it is. Abandonware is a euphemism for pirated software that is no longer supported by the publisher.

    Anyway, I recommend the Quest For Glory series. If you can find it.

    Edit: As for Torment, the writing was pretty much all there was to it. I found it worth playing for that alone, and so I was able to live with the boring-ass gameplay.

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  • SceptreSceptre Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Sceptre wrote:
    However, it isn't exactly Illegal.
    Yes, it is. Abandonware is a euphemism for pirated software that is no longer supported by the publisher.

    Anyway, I recommend the Quest For Glory series. If you can find it.

    Edit: As for Torment, the writing was pretty much all there was to it. I found it worth playing for that alone, and so I was able to live with the boring-ass gameplay.

    Color me corrected.

    However, I was under the impression that many abandonware titles were no longer affected by copyright, as it had passed or some such.

    Is this true?

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  • CpgnitionCpgnition Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'm not sure this qualifies since it's from 2001, but it felt old school: Arcanum.

    Steampunk/Fantasy in a Westernish setting. Yum.

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  • NibbleNibble Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Anyway, I recommend the Quest For Glory series. If you can find it.

    As for the Ultima series, I highly recommend you try Ultima 8: Pagan and Ultima Underworld 1&2 in addition to U7 Parts I&II. The Underworlds are flawless; and while U8 was released early and didn't have everything that was promised, it was still a great game (once patched).

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  • AntinumericAntinumeric Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Albion
    Dink Smallwood
    Exile series , and its more recent relative Avernum series
    Get the Forgotten realms old crpg's, like Pools of radiance, Pools of darkness
    Curse of the azure bonds (that one was motherfucking hard), etc.
    Eye of the beholder series.
    Savage Frontier lot.

    i was a bit surprised when you mentioned Balders gate as an oldschool, heck i dont really consider fallout to be that oldschool either.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Docshifty wrote:
    Esh wrote:
    WHY wrote:
    This old stuff reminds me how pussified this generation of gamers are.

    Wizardry 7? BAM! Party-wiping encounter before you even get to the first city.

    Eye of the Beholder 2? It's so freaking hard to stay alive the developers put in a ressurection shrine even before the first level of the dungeon.

    Getting going in Crusaders Of The Dark Savant was a motherfucker. So worth it once you get going though. Probably in my top 5 RPGs of all time.

    And I know this is kinda blasphemy, but while the writing was great, I wasn't impressed with Torment.

    What about Torment did you find unimpressive?

    Oh, and old games being hard is half the reason I love them so much.

    The gameplay was just "blah". I don't know. I love the Planescape setting and all.

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  • MarlorMarlor Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Sceptre wrote:
    However, I was under the impression that many abandonware titles were no longer affected by copyright, as it had passed or some such.

    Is this true?

    No. Abandonware is copyright infringement pure and simple.

    A lot of abandonware or ROM sites walk a fine line by only releasing games that aren't available for sale. They claim that they are morally justified (since they aren't affecting sales), even if they are technically breaking the law. The problem with this is that they are devaluing the potential value of the software if it is later re-released. For example, I know plenty of people who refuse to buy Virtual Console games because they "downloaded the ROM for free years ago".

    The only free games are ones that have been explicitly released for free by their rights-holders.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Albion
    Dink Smallwood
    Exile series , and its more recent relative Avernum series
    Get the Forgotten realms old crpg's, like Pools of radiance, Pools of darkness
    Curse of the azure bonds (that one was motherfucking hard), etc.
    Eye of the beholder series.
    Savage Frontier lot.

    i was a bit surprised when you mentioned Balders gate as an oldschool, heck i dont really consider fallout to be that oldschool either.

    That's cause they're not old school. They were part of what I like to call the "Golden Age Of RPGs".

    To many 15 y/o's running around the boards.

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  • CampionCampion Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Those Betrayal at: Such and Such games by Sierra are RPGs, no? It's been a while since I've played one.

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  • StollsStolls Brave Corporate Logo Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Anyway, I recommend the Quest For Glory series. If you can find it.

    Having just played through 4, and finally getting around to 5, I second this recommendation with gusto. Fun adventure games with a tasty RPG flavor and stat-porting across the series for the eternal win. :^:

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Sceptre wrote:
    Sceptre wrote:
    However, it isn't exactly Illegal.
    Yes, it is. Abandonware is a euphemism for pirated software that is no longer supported by the publisher.

    Anyway, I recommend the Quest For Glory series. If you can find it.

    Edit: As for Torment, the writing was pretty much all there was to it. I found it worth playing for that alone, and so I was able to live with the boring-ass gameplay.

    Color me corrected.

    However, I was under the impression that many abandonware titles were no longer affected by copyright, as it had passed or some such.

    Is this true?

    No.
    The length of the copyright term within the United States was extended by the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act, which made the copyright term the life of the author plus 70 years for works created after January 1, 1978. In the case of a work of corporate authorship (also known as "Work for Hire") the term will be 95 years from the date of first publication or 120 years from the date of creation, whichever expires first.

    As I'm sure you're aware, there are no pieces of software anywhere that are 95 years old.

    The only software (and thus games) which are legally public domain are those which have been specifically placed in the public domain by the copyright owner.

    Campion: Yes. Betrayal at Krondor, Betrayal at Antara, and Return to Krondor.

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