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[WoW] [Shaman], Enhancing your PVPs like crazy

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  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I think Paragon (top 3 PvE guild in the World) uses an Enhancement Shaman buddied with an Assassination Rogue/Frost DK in their main raid.

    I love Elemental, but if push came to shove (my guild is stacking up a lot of melee dps) I may switch to Enhancement and keep a Windfury Totem on the ground.

    It's just logical.

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  • MutilateMutilate Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Enhance seems to be pushing out better DPS than elemental right now. I would happily respec over but I have zero enhance gear and no desire to farm any out. Maybe the RNG gods will smile upon me when my guild starts raiding.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Enhance is so many more buttons.

    So many more.

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  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Elemental = Lightning Shield, Searing Totem, Flame Shock, Unleash Elements, Elemental Mastery, Lava Burst, Lightning Bolt, Earth Shock

    Enhancement = Lightning Shield, Searing Totem, Flame Shock, Unleash Elements, Stormstrike, Lava Lash, Earth Shock, Lightning Bolt, Feral Spirit

    I'd say one more.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Why Feral Spirit but no Elemental Mastery?

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  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Fixed.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    As an added bonus, elemental isn't Yet Another Melee DPS, for those guilds/raids who have that affliction.

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  • KainyKainy Pimpin' and righteous Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Not to mention as elemental you still fucking have windfury totem, and there's no longer any difference between theirs and enhancement's.

    It's basically which raid buffs you need - enhancement's 10% AP or elemental's 5% crit and 10% spellpower

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  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Xehalus wrote: »
    Elemental = Lightning Shield, Searing Totem, Flame Shock, Unleash Elements, Elemental Mastery, Lava Burst, Lightning Bolt, Earth Shock

    Enhancement = Lightning Shield, Searing Totem, Flame Shock, Unleash Elements, Stormstrike, Lava Lash, Earth Shock, Lightning Bolt, Feral Spirit

    I'd say one more.

    Where do Thunderstorm and Earthquake fit in? (not sure what specifically you're listing, if it's just single target buttons or whether it's 'my key bindings for these specs') Spiritwalker's grace?

    Fire Nova for enhance I think? Shamanistic Rage?

    Lazy players like me can use the lightning shield glyph to avoid needing it keybound. I use unleash elements very rarely as elemental, and I don't think I'm the only one.

    Shamans in general have a whole lot of keybings though. Add Purge, Bind Elemental, Hex, Totemic recall, and (if you're like me) at least one healing spell into the mix for both of those lists.

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    i always use unleash elements (flametongue) because it buffs firedamage after cast and makes my lavaburst hit that little bit harder

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Bobble wrote: »
    Xehalus wrote: »
    Elemental = Lightning Shield, Searing Totem, Flame Shock, Unleash Elements, Elemental Mastery, Lava Burst, Lightning Bolt, Earth Shock

    Enhancement = Lightning Shield, Searing Totem, Flame Shock, Unleash Elements, Stormstrike, Lava Lash, Earth Shock, Lightning Bolt, Feral Spirit

    I'd say one more.

    Where do Thunderstorm and Earthquake fit in? (not sure what specifically you're listing, if it's just single target buttons or whether it's 'my key bindings for these specs') Spiritwalker's grace?

    Fire Nova for enhance I think? Shamanistic Rage?

    Lazy players like me can use the lightning shield glyph to avoid needing it keybound. I use unleash elements very rarely as elemental, and I don't think I'm the only one.

    Shamans in general have a whole lot of keybings though. Add Purge, Bind Elemental, Hex, Totemic recall, and (if you're like me) at least one healing spell into the mix for both of those lists.

    Don't waste a button on a heal spell, make two hurt heal macros with LB and one of the healing spells and Chain Lighting and Chain Heal.

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I just use my Clique-bound heal spells (which I use for resto) while I'm elemental, saves from having to put them on keybound buttons.

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  • Grape ApeGrape Ape Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Zzulu wrote: »
    i always use unleash elements (flametongue) because it buffs firedamage after cast and makes my lavaburst hit that little bit harder

    I think the reasoning behind not using it on cooldown is because the damage it does by itself doesn't outweigh the damage a lightning bolt would do for slightly more cast time (GCD vs. ~1.6 - 1.8 depending on haste) even when the 30% is added onto the lavaburst. It's not a huge difference, but I tend to save mine for when I have about a second left on lavaburst's cooldown, or if I have to move.

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  • Grape ApeGrape Ape Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Zzulu wrote: »
    i always use unleash elements (flametongue) because it buffs firedamage after cast and makes my lavaburst hit that little bit harder

    I think the reasoning behind not using it on cooldown is because the damage it does by itself doesn't outweigh the damage a lightning bolt would do for slightly more cast time (GCD vs. ~1.6 - 1.8 depending on haste) even when the 30% is added onto the lavaburst. It's not a huge difference, but I tend to save mine for when I have about a second left on lavaburst's cooldown, or if I have to move.

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  • Magic RadioMagic Radio Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Mutilate wrote: »
    still one of the most complicated priority systems in the game?

    If enhancement is considered complicated, I'd be curious to see what simple is like.

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  • KainyKainy Pimpin' and righteous Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Zzulu wrote: »
    i always use unleash elements (flametongue) because it buffs firedamage after cast and makes my lavaburst hit that little bit harder

    The buff is 20%, and 20% of a Lava Burst plus the pathetic damage the unleash does is less than you'd get out of casting lightning bolt with that time. As elemental, you only want to use this if you're moving, have used Earth Shock if your shield is at 7+ charges, and Lava Burst is within 5 seconds of coming off cooldown.

    Unleash elements is an enhance/resto ability, mainly.

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Mutilate wrote: »
    still one of the most complicated priority systems in the game?

    If enhancement is considered complicated, I'd be curious to see what simple is like.

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  • MutilateMutilate Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Mutilate wrote: »
    still one of the most complicated priority systems in the game?

    If enhancement is considered complicated, I'd be curious to see what simple is like.

    Arcane mage, Hunter, Balance Druid, any healer, Frost DK...

    shall I go on?

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I'd disagree with you about the healers, mostly because healing isn't about the rotation it's about resource management and being able to multi-task enough to keep track of 5/10/25 different bars at once.

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  • MutilateMutilate Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I'd disagree with you about the healers, mostly because healing isn't about the rotation it's about resource management and being able to multi-task enough to keep track of 5/10/25 different bars at once.

    The concept of healing is simple, but in practical application it can be difficult. I think healing is the easiest thing to do in WoW. Part of that is because I have been doing it for 6 years now.

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  • BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Mutilate wrote: »
    I'd disagree with you about the healers, mostly because healing isn't about the rotation it's about resource management and being able to multi-task enough to keep track of 5/10/25 different bars at once.

    The concept of healing is simple, but in practical application it can be difficult. I think healing is the easiest thing to do in WoW. Part of that is because I have been doing it for 6 years now.

    Healing CAN be the easiest thing to do, or it can be agonizingly difficult. The wide range depends on who (and what) the other people are in your party/raid. Rogues A and Rogue B are both solid players, except that Rogue B stands in fire a half second longer than Rogue A. etc.

    Rogue C is a terrible player and stays in the fire. He makes healing easier because I just ignore him :)

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  • FairchildFairchild Rabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?" Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Any recommendations, quest reward-wise, for which of the two CATACLYSM levels is best for a level 80 Enhancement shaman ? I've perused the quest rewards on WOWHEAD and the one-handers available are not exactly overwhelming me.

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  • AngryAngry The glory I had witnessed was just a sleight of handRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    you should be leaving them as soon as you hit 82 anyways, which if you do a couple instances isn't half a zone if you have rested so it really doesn't matter.

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  • Shorn Scrotum ManShorn Scrotum Man Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Fairchild wrote: »
    Any recommendations, quest reward-wise, for which of the two CATACLYSM levels is best for a level 80 Enhancement shaman ? I've perused the quest rewards on WOWHEAD and the one-handers available are not exactly overwhelming me.

    Having completed Hyjal and about 1/3 of Vash, Hyjal was giving out tons of enhancement gear, where as Vash seemed a little more balanced.

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  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Fairchild wrote: »
    Any recommendations, quest reward-wise, for which of the two CATACLYSM levels is best for a level 80 Enhancement shaman ? I've perused the quest rewards on WOWHEAD and the one-handers available are not exactly overwhelming me.

    Having completed Hyjal and about 1/3 of Vash, Hyjal was giving out tons of enhancement gear, where as Vash seemed a little more balanced.

    The one handers quest rewards are pretty bad until you get to deepholm from my experience. Even then I was running around with a blue axe with strength on it.

    I started off with Hyjal and once of the earlier quests give you a decent axe with agility. I think you get a mace later on in that zone as well. I can't remember. I did Vashj right after Hyjal and it was just a rehash of the same stuff. I think it leaned a bit more toward resto/elemental gear.

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  • duberduber Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    For weapons I would just get the JC fist weapons at 81 and 83, they are dirt cheap on the AH (at least on my server)

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    You should be doing Hyjal because it gives you infinitely more rep than Vashjir does and it's not brain-gougingly obnoxious to move around in.

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  • KainyKainy Pimpin' and righteous Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Yeah, it is really hard to move up and down..?

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Maybe it's because I never quested much as Enhancment, but does anyone else notice mobs going for your totems more? It's kind of weird and annoying.

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  • KainyKainy Pimpin' and righteous Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Searing totem seems to generate a ridiculous amount of threat, and also it is vulnerable to any damage reflect or spell reflect mechanic, which is super fucking irritating.

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  • Grape ApeGrape Ape Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Kainy wrote: »
    Searing totem seems to generate a ridiculous amount of threat, and also it is vulnerable to any damage reflect or spell reflect mechanic, which is super fucking irritating.

    At least on ozruk it appears to be immune to gibbing itself, which is something.

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  • ArkadyArkady Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    captaink wrote: »
    Maybe it's because I never quested much as Enhancment, but does anyone else notice mobs going for your totems more? It's kind of weird and annoying.

    Yeah I've noticed it. It is really irritating.

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  • KainyKainy Pimpin' and righteous Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Grape Ape wrote: »
    Kainy wrote: »
    Searing totem seems to generate a ridiculous amount of threat, and also it is vulnerable to any damage reflect or spell reflect mechanic, which is super fucking irritating.

    At least on ozruk it appears to be immune to gibbing itself, which is something.

    I never noticed because I was too busy purging elementium bulwark off him for the casters, haha.

    Still, I'm glad I have an 85 warrior, too, so I can know there are classes that don't have it rough soloing Tol Barad dailies, because man, on my shaman I feel so comparatively weak.

    Oh well. I'll have raid gear soon, and then everything will be back to easy.

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Kainy wrote: »
    Yeah, it is really hard to move up and down..?
    No one said anything about difficulty.

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  • ArkadyArkady Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    The problem with vash isn't the 3d movement, it's really 2 things. First, the zone is way too fucking long. 150+ quests compared to 110ish for the rest of the cata zones. And secondly, the rep gains there are complete shit. I did the first 50 quests in vash while levelling my shaman and despite most quests coming from earthen ring goons, I made 500 rep. I think when I did the whole zone on my paladin I ended at a little into friendly. Hyjal on the other hand, will easily get you into honored with that particular faction.

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Hyjal gets you Earthen Ring rep and Hyjal rep. It's doubly useful.

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  • Smaug6Smaug6 Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    I successfully healed my first heroic last night. Pretty fun expierence, when you have compotent dps.

    It was a heroic SFK so the first boss took a few tries, but once we got him down it was a pretty easy after that. Interestingly enough, I find that CC not only makes my job much easier on trash, but makes the instance faster. For example, if no one CCs then I usually go oom on trash. However, if one or two CCs are employed, I can stay close to 2/3rds full and the group can just chain pull. How to communicate that to people is beyond me though.

    Really like healing so far, anyone know the best pvp resto spec? I assume you need insta cast ghost wolf still, but aside from that is anything else necessary?

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  • GrobianGrobian What's on sale? Pliers!Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Smaug6 wrote: »
    Really like healing so far, anyone know the best pvp resto spec? I assume you need insta cast ghost wolf still, but aside from that is anything else necessary?

    You want the obvious PvP talents (Nature's Guardian, Ancestral Resolve) and most importantly Cleansing Waters. So my general all-purpose PvP-spec would be something like: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#hZbhMZfGbGszfoho This leaves 2 points for Blessing of the Eternals, Acuity or Telluric Currents.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    JAEF wrote: »
    Hyjal gets you Earthen Ring rep and Hyjal rep. It's doubly useful.

    Just do both

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited January 2011
    But do Hyjal first. It's a much smoother experience for gearing up someone fresh from Northrend, reeking of dartboard quest gear.

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