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News Media Personalities of America

HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
edited August 2010 in Debate and/or Discourse
I want to start this off talking about a special trio - Gretchen Carlson, Steve Doocy, and Brian Kilmeade. This is a trifecta of entertainment gold that hosts a show on Fox News known as Fox & Friends. From what I've seen, Doocy more or less is the sane one in the trio, or at least the less silly. Gretchen and Kilmeade on the other hand...
On July 8, 2009, Kilmeade and two co-hosts were discussing a study that, based on research done in Finland and Sweden, showed people who stay married are less likely to suffer from Alzheimer's disease. Kilmeade commented, "[In the United States] we keep marrying other species and other ethnics...". Ignoring attempts by co-host Gretchen Carlson to interrupt him, he added, "See, the problem is the Swedes have pure genes. Because they marry other Swedes .... Finns marry other Finns, so they have a pure society. In America we marry everybody, we marry Italians and Irish."[3][4] On July 20, 2009, Kilmeade apologized for his remarks, saying, "I made comments that were offensive to many people. That was not my intention, and looking back at those comments I realize they were inappropriate. For that I sincerely apologize. America [is a] huge melting pot, and that is what makes us such a great country..."[5]

As for Gretchen, she tends to open her mouth and let forth words of wisdom. Like tonight, I was watching The Soup and was surprised to see a clip of Fox & Friends coming up on it. In the clip, Gretchen is breaking a news story that Al-Qaeda is training monkeys for warfare. She notes that a picture on the screen next to her is a photoshop "to give an idea of what one of these monkeys may look like" (seriously she said that). It is indeed a monkey holding a pistol. As Joel McHale put it, they realized in the back room prior to the show that a monkey holding an AK-47 would be outrageous.

Obvious silly geese on Fox News are O'Reilly, Hannity, and Glenn Beck, but we've talked the shit out of them (not that they don't have a place here, feel free to bring 'em up!) (but before I let them go for now, hey Hannity, remember when you said you'd get waterboarded for charity? Still waiting!). There's other networks out there. How about, oh, CNN?

Let's start with Rick Sanchez. Poor little Rick can't offer commentary to get his way out of a paper bag (see what I just wrote? he says shit like that, on the air). Rick is also known for having tried a "shock belt" on air, which is a device that electrocutes the wearer as a restraining device. Massive lulz were had by it. He's also simulated being trapped in a cabin in the mountains (in the snow) to show what's needed for survival, and apparently even strapped himself in a car and had it submerged in water to show how to escape. He's like some sort of Houdini. Oh, and he likes the Twitter and Facebook. But that's more or less CNN policy.

There's other CNN personalities out there, though none really match Rick Sanchez in fun-filled antics. Like Wolf fucking Blitzer. How cool of a name is that? He's actually an accomplished reporter, but lost to Andy Richter in Celebrity Jeopardy.

CNN has also been the home to Larry King, who is retiring this fall after a really long career of sitting down with just about anyone ever. Like seriously. From Vlad Putin to Snoop Dogg.

Time to shift gears - MSNBC is go.

Let's start with Keith Olbermann. This guy has a pretty raging hard-on for the Bush administration. He's had a lot of harsh things to say about it even after the fact. Thankfully, the guy has a sense of humor enough to make fun of himself for it on The Daily Show once (TDS did a segment on Chat Roulette, where Jon Stewart encountered a bunch of news personalities on it; Olbermann began answering Jon's question of why he was on it, and suddenly segued into slamming Bush; it's better than it sounds). He's also not very fond of Bill O'Reilly and has had a cross-network fight with him.

Following Olbermann on MSNBC, like in show lineup, is Rachel Maddow, a darling of a show host. Oh and she's a lesbian (first openly gay person hired by a news network apparently), in case you're into that sort of thing. She's also very openly a liberal, joking that it means she agrees with the Eisenhower-era Republican party. In recent news (that is, this year), Senator Scott Brown of Massachusetts starting making bogus claims for his campaign fundraising that she was going to run against him for a Senate seat. Aside from denying the claims, Maddow has made repeated offers to the guy to have him on the show. Like all brave men, he's declined so far. She's aggressive in seeking out and countering arguments or statements politicians make. She may also be an eviscerater.

At any rate, I'm sure I've missed plenty of folks here or didn't elaborate on enough things but I just wanted to get this rolling. Feel free to discuss these peoples' pasts or present. The future too I guess, if you know it.

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    ApollohApolloh Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Olbermann can be quite the silly goose, and this is coming from someone who enjoyed him alot when he became a more prominent outspoken critic of the Bush administration.

    He is excellent at emphatic rage though.

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    ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Olbermann's rage is awesome the first time you see it, and much less awesome when you realize he does it constantly.

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    GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Katrina snapped something in Olbermann's head. Before that he saved the rage for sparing occasions, and then after Katrina he did it every night.

    Dylan Ratigan is just a bully. Every day he just looks for some sort of fight he can start. Really, Dylan, if you can't even get through a byline graphic without resorting to Internet flamewarspeak, I've got no time for you.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Already getting to O'Reilly: also seen tonight on The Soup (in a new segment titled "What is Bill O'Reilly talking about?"), they played a clip of him from this week saying, "What Davy Crockett lunchbox wouldn't want a condom and Oreos?" No context. But now I'm curious. And for the hell of it, Joel's response to the clip:

    "I'm more of a Flash Gordon, Nutter Butter, butt-plug kind of guy."

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    BarcardiBarcardi All the Wizards Under A Rock: AfganistanRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I think the only reason Steve Doocy is still around is because Colbert recognizes him as the guy that is Steve Doocy and not the guy that is not Steve Doocy, because that guy is throw away.

    Honestly most of the media personalities are throw always, except for the people that have their own show with their name behind it. What I want to see is a documentary of how insane those people need to be to get from a journalism degree to that level of reporting. Even fifteen years ago i could see a coherent, workman like climb to the top a la Bernstein and Woodward, but now it almost parodies Anchorman.

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    NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I gotta say that I find Rick Sanchez to be more of the lovable idiot type.

    He has done some super silly things, but if I remember correctly he also did a hilarious series of comments about Glenn Beck.

    The dude might not be the sharpest crayon in the shed, but man sometimes I enjoy watching him.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I just ran this Phalla in CF. :P

    They're almost universally atrocious. Maddow is a rare exception. Also: blond in high school and it looks bizarre, and led to David Vitter making a hilarious sexist remark that I won't link to because he's an asshat.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Rick Sanchez got his start as a sports anchor in Broward County(South Florida); WSVN 7.

    Just thought I'd share that. He's a local boy! I think.

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    wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    What, no love for Ed Schultz? Unlike Olbermann, he actually wants conservatives on his show so he can browbeat them, and unlike Maddow they actually come on the show because he's not going to totally disembowel them and leave their entrails on the floor. You can tell he's a radio pundit too because he has the ability to go into full rant mode at any time.

    Also, Joe Scarborough and his crew of flunkies need to get the fuck off my liberal news channel. If I wanted to hear wishy-washy conservative beltway CW, I'd watch the Situation Room and spare myself the annoyance.

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    LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Nocturne wrote: »
    I gotta say that I find Rick Sanchez to be more of the lovable idiot type.

    He has done some super silly things, but if I remember correctly he also did a hilarious series of comments about Glenn Beck.

    The dude might not be the sharpest crayon in the shed, but man sometimes I enjoy watching him.

    Rick Sanchez is one of the few, if not only, news anchors who doesn't think he's smarter than he is.

    He's certainly more tolerable than Wolf Blitzer.

    Or Jack Cafferty, who used to be an amusing old crank but is now morphing into CNN's resident post-Dobbs xenophobic teabagger sympathizer.

    Although I have to admit, part of why I like Rick Sanchez so much, other than that clip of him getting tazed, is that his Espanglish-tinged show used to air right before Lou Dobbs. Ay Dos Mio!

    Edit: And no love for Anderson Cooper? He's dreamy. I mean, not Christiane Amanpour or Fareed Zakaria dreamy, but still.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I almost added Anderson Cooper to the OP but I realized I don't know much about him and the OP was getting wordy / linky.

    Also forgot to talk about Dobbs. But then again, I don't feel like getting worked up.

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    HozHoz Cool Cat Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I sometimes watch Shep Smith on Fox because I find him charismatic and entertaining.

    The partisan hard-ons I don't like and the way CNN goes further than any other network in fluffing up their news reporting is really pathetic and desperate.

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    wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Anderson Cooper exudes an aura of self-righteousness and self-importance that is sometimes as intolerable as Glenn Beck's stupidity.

    Rick Sanchez has his moments but often seems to cling to the whole idiotic notion of "fairness" that calls for letting your guests spout bullshit without calling them on it. For that matter, that seems to be the problem with just about every "real" news show, the tendency to be platforms for talking points without having the guts to make a judgment on what's being presented.

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    LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    wwtMask wrote: »
    Anderson Cooper exudes an aura of self-righteousness and self-importance that is sometimes as intolerable as Glenn Beck's stupidity.

    Rick Sanchez has his moments but often seems to cling to the whole idiotic notion of "fairness" that calls for letting your guests spout bullshit without calling them on it. For that matter, that seems to be the problem with just about every "real" news show, the tendency to be platforms for talking points without having the guts to make a judgment on what's being presented.

    Actually, I've seen Sanchez call people on their bullshit from time to time.

    Certainly more often than John King or other CNN doofuses (doofi?) manage to.

    Yes, slightly more than "never" still counts.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Being the closest thing to a journalist on CNN is kind of like being the closest thing to a diamond in a toilet.

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    lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I adore Rachel, I would totally, totally turn gay for her, even for just a weekend. But her show i like mostly because while she does cover the larger items like the wars and the gulf, etc, she (or her staff whatever) also looks at those stories from the different angles.

    Like the Iraqi baseball team that got donations for gear from TRMS viewers.

    And how she keeps going with a story and has no problems with the follow ups, like her ongoing coverage of DADT and how she keeps the consistency with the interviews of the men affected by it so far.

    I think, partisan as her show might be, it is still one of the more intriguing, interesting, and informative (with a liberal slant) shows that I watch.

    Also, I learned that with the new pump that dick cheney had put into his heart, he has no pulse. I learned that from Rachel. That is how awesome she can be at times.

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    ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I will pay any amount of money to see Bill O'Reilly and/or Glenn Beck executed on air.

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    ApollohApolloh Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I will pay any amount of money to see Bill O'Reilly and/or Glenn Beck executed on air.

    Uh, what.

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    HachfaceHachface Not the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking of Dammit, Shepard!Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I want to take this opportunity to bring up a phenomenon that some of you may not have noticed. Namely, that the field of broadcast journalism attracts a highly disproportionate number of semi-closeted gays.

    Of course we have the well-known national figures:
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    But it's more than just them. Consider the strange and horrifying death of WABC anchor George Weber:

    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=15780697#post15780697

    And I can tell you that it goes further. I was shortly a broadcast journalism major in college, and I knew a lot of gay dudes who were pretty much out around school but admitted they would remain closeted publicly due to their careers. Seriously, there were more 'mos in the journalism department than there were in the musical theater department (although probably not per capita. The musical theater dept. was 100% per capita). Two of them I know are now working as TV correspondents on NECN.

    I am sure there is an explanation for this but I don't know what.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I will pay any amount of money to see Bill O'Reilly and/or Glenn Beck executed on air.

    Uh, it's one thing to like, not like them. Even hate them. But fuck dude. o_O

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    ApollohApolloh Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I honestly just listened to Glenn Beck on Fox say that the government and the progressives started a race war.

    And that turning to god would fix the divisiveness that is starting said war.

    Yeah god has really prevented race wars Glenn. Really prevented them.

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    LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I think Lou Dobbs with CNN is as close as your gonna get. He is very pro constitution and bill of rights. Seems to be a patriotic guy and he even calls our flaky politicians on their crap. Below I have listed his radio program and an interesting view from Quranbible folks who want him off the air, that speaks volumes to me.

    I also hate brown people.

    One of the few positive things about CNN is that they fired the fuck out of Lou Dobbs.

    Of course, they pay Erik "Goat-Fucking Child Molester" Erikson to spew his punditry, but they don't give him his own hour+ hatefest.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Gosling wrote: »
    Katrina snapped something in Olbermann's head. Before that he saved the rage for sparing occasions, and then after Katrina he did it every night.

    I'm not a big fan of the guys schtick, but does it really count as snapping when there is actually something new to rage about pretty much every day?

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Barcardi wrote: »
    What I want to see is a documentary of how insane those people need to be to get from a journalism degree to that level of reporting. Even fifteen years ago i could see a coherent, workman like climb to the top a la Bernstein and Woodward, but now it almost parodies Anchorman.

    I always just kinda figured they want to make money and/or were always kinda like this in the first place.

    The network wants this kind of bullshit on it's airtime and you either change for the job or they find someone who will/doesn't need to.

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I wish the BBC would just start reporting our news for us. It's the only time I feel like news is being reported to the audience instead of the audience being told how to feel about specific news items.


    As far as poor journalism goes, I guess we can't really talk about FoxNews because they're now all Poes. Once you give Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, and Glenn Beck all their own shows, you've basically forgone anything resembling the desire to attract a sane and intelligent audience.

    I'd put CNN down as next worst due to their combination of horrible reporters and yellow journalism. At least FoxNews drops all pretext as being legitimate; CNN has basically attempted to gain viewership by turning into TMZ:Capitol Hill. Plus, they give screwjobs like Nancy Grace and Jack Cafferty platforms to be heard on, which is unforgivable. And I swear to God, if I have to sit through another of Anderson Cooper's week-long exposes on the illegal meat trade in sub-Saharan Africa or Catholic missionaries giving reformed Cholos work in East L.A., I'll pull my goddamned hair out.

    I suppose MSNBC is the best of the domestic bunch, but that's some faint praise. Olbermann has become a self-parody, and Maddow isn't far behind. Bleagh.

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    miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE
    This is one of the best things Jon Stewart has done.

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    NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Yeah I have seen that video so many times but I can always watch it again

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    wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I wish the BBC would just start reporting our news for us. It's the only time I feel like news is being reported to the audience instead of the audience being told how to feel about specific news items.


    As far as poor journalism goes, I guess we can't really talk about FoxNews because they're now all Poes. Once you give Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, and Glenn Beck all their own shows, you've basically forgone anything resembling the desire to attract a sane and intelligent audience.

    I'd put CNN down as next worst due to their combination of horrible reporters and yellow journalism. At least FoxNews drops all pretext as being legitimate; CNN has basically attempted to gain viewership by turning into TMZ:Capitol Hill. Plus, they give screwjobs like Nancy Grace and Jack Cafferty platforms to be heard on, which is unforgivable. And I swear to God, if I have to sit through another of Anderson Cooper's week-long exposes on the illegal meat trade in sub-Saharan Africa or Catholic missionaries giving reformed Cholos work in East L.A., I'll pull my goddamned hair out.

    I suppose MSNBC is the best of the domestic bunch, but that's some faint praise. Olbermann has become a self-parody, and Maddow isn't far behind. Bleagh.

    Maddow is a self-parody? Do you ever watch the show? It's the most responsibly conducted show on the entire network.

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    JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Maddow is pretty good. Actually will have sit downs with people and talk to them. Though I wish she would cut out some of the republican slamming jokes. It's annoying. Shows should stand on the content of them, no on "lolpubs!"

    Sanchez is okay.

    Anderson Cooper is pretty awesome, and I think he does great work.

    What is wrong with Cafferty? I thought he was okay.

    Also, Joe Scarborough is pretty dece. Sounds like a reasonable man to me.

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    kaz67kaz67 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Sort of surprised to see the low opinions of CNN's coverage. With the exception of people like Nancy Grace and Dobbs, I have always found their anchors to be the least objectionable. Granted I am not a close follower of the prime time news shows, but I feel like there is less nonsense to sift through on CNN when I want to get an idea of what the major current events are.

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    LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    JebusUD wrote: »
    What is wrong with Cafferty? I thought he was okay.

    I've always been a fan of Cafferty's "cranky old sarcastic man who has no patience for this bullshit" persona, dating back to his days as a local NYC anchor.

    However, it seems that since Lou Dobbs left CNN that Cafferty has been drifting towards being CNN's resident Tea Party panderer. All of his segments these days are blatant anti-immigration rants or generic "the federal government is full of idiots who can't do anything right except spend your tax money" stuff.

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    GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    And I swear to God, if I have to sit through another of Anderson Cooper's week-long exposes on the illegal meat trade in sub-Saharan Africa or Catholic missionaries giving reformed Cholos work in East L.A., I'll pull my goddamned hair out.
    ...what

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    kaz67 wrote: »
    Sort of surprised to see the low opinions of CNN's coverage. With the exception of people like Nancy Grace and Dobbs, I have always found their anchors to be the least objectionable. Granted I am not a close follower of the prime time news shows, but I feel like there is less nonsense to sift through on CNN when I want to get an idea of what the major current events are.

    It's because CNN is all consumed by the idea of "balance" and they will never, ever make a declarative statement about the truth. Which is even worse in my mind than Fox's ridiculous bias.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    While we're discussing the media, can we mention the NYT's bizarre obsession with how much the rich are suffering in this recession? This is like the 20th article I can remember about it, all of that length. Are they that out of touch?

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    EgoEgo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I like Megyn Kelly. But only when she's angry. Which is like, 100% of the time when she's on Fox reporting something Democrats did.

    But really, do a google image search for Megyn Kelly and look for a picture where she's obviously pissed off. That has got to be the hottest angry girl ever.

    (disclaimer: I like angry girls. And no, I don't know what's wrong with me either.)

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    1) That y alone means she sucks. Well, mainly her parents, but yuck.
    2) She's an idiot, even by that network's standards.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Also shitty about the NYT! I fucking hate that piece of shit. Paper of record, my ass.

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    EgoEgo Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    1) That y alone means she sucks. Well, mainly her parents, but yuck.
    2) She's an idiot, even by that network's standards.

    Oh hey, I don't agree with anything that comes out of her mouth. But... rowrr.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    shryke wrote: »
    Gosling wrote: »
    Katrina snapped something in Olbermann's head. Before that he saved the rage for sparing occasions, and then after Katrina he did it every night.

    I'm not a big fan of the guys schtick, but does it really count as snapping when there is actually something new to rage about pretty much every day?
    I have to agree with this. I mean, the hyperbolic rage might wear thin quickly, but there is something to be said for maintaining a proportional response and not letting the waves of extremely horrible shit become blase.

    The second Bush term averaged about 4 "SWEET TAPDANCING CHRIST THAT IS EVIL" moments a week.

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    CervetusCervetus Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Also, Joe Scarborough is pretty dece. Sounds like a reasonable man to me.

    This opinion brought to you by Starbucks.

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