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    The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    My biggest problem is people who hate O'Reilly and then in the same breath praise Olbermann. They are the same guy. The reason Olbermann hates O'Reilly is that O'Reilly thinks he, Bill O'Reilly, is the center of the universe and Olbermann knows that is not true, because he, Keith Olbermann, is the actual center of the universe.

    This is totally untrue.

    Yes, Olbermann has an ego, and yeah, he can get pretty ranty. You know what he doesn't do, though? Engage in white supremacist vitriol, commit financial support to crooks & murderers like Pat Robertson and/or just go flying off the fucking handle when politely asked to say a colloquial phrase to close his program. Bill'O and Keith aren't nearly at the same level of terrible.


    Also: chalk up one more fan of Shep Smith. That, "WE DON'T TORTURE!" moment just choked me up.

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    Man in the MistsMan in the Mists Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I really hope that when his contract with fox expires he gets flooded with offers from other, better channels.

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    YougottawannaYougottawanna Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Since this is the Shep Smith manlove thread, I just found out that his show never ran the Shirley Sherrod video because he "did not and does not trust the source."

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I posted video of that earlier in the thread. Anyway, for two slightly different smart takes:

    Eugene Robinson in tomorrow's Washington Post (coincidentally, the only person who writes for that piece of shit I can stand), even their other liberals are obnoxious twits. He and Maddow are largely of one mind, so if you saw any of the first half of her show, it'll be a bit redundant.

    And the best writer working in the media today, Ta-Nehisi Coates.

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    GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The one thing that gives me a little bit of satisfaction about this whole Sherrod thing is the sheer speed at which this went from 'went off without a hitch' to 'complete and utter backfire'.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    It accomplished a couple things though:

    1) Drove news about financial reform and finally passing the unemployment extension right off the front page.
    2) Made the Administration do something stupid and look weak.
    3) Has liberals pissed at the Administration, again.

    And it's not like Fox or Breitbart will change their behavior. They'll go off in search of another scary black thing looking to take away things from whites, because as we all know, race relations are zero sum.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Even if the media triumphs in informing people about the truth on this story Breitbart "broke," the fact of the matter is he got someone to lose their job. Until that's reversed, he still unfortunately got what he was after.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Henroid wrote: »
    Even if the media triumphs in informing people about the truth on this story Breitbart "broke," the fact of the matter is he got someone to lose their job. Until that's reversed, he still unfortunately got what he was after.

    Vilisack has offered reinstatement. And Breitbart may have overextended and left himself legally exposed.

    I don't think he got what he was looking for.

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    RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2010
    Henroid wrote: »
    Even if the media triumphs in informing people about the truth on this story Breitbart "broke," the fact of the matter is he got someone to lose their job. Until that's reversed, he still unfortunately got what he was after.

    Vilisack has offered reinstatement. And Breitbart may have overextended and left himself legally exposed.

    I don't think he got what he was looking for.

    on the other hand, jesus, this was a slipup on the obama administration's part

    the message this sent was, have millions of gallons of oil pouring into the gulf and we'll wag our fingers and wring our hands, but if fox news says bad things about someone we will come down on them like the wrath of God

    i understand that the race issue is touchy thanks to our current president, but have a little fucking forethought

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Rust wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Even if the media triumphs in informing people about the truth on this story Breitbart "broke," the fact of the matter is he got someone to lose their job. Until that's reversed, he still unfortunately got what he was after.

    Vilisack has offered reinstatement. And Breitbart may have overextended and left himself legally exposed.

    I don't think he got what he was looking for.

    on the other hand, jesus, this was a slipup on the obama administration's part

    the message this sent was, have millions of gallons of oil pouring into the gulf and we'll wag our fingers and wring our hands, but if fox news says bad things about someone we will come down on them like the wrath of God

    i understand that the race issue is touchy thanks to our current president, but have a little fucking forethought

    No doubt the White House screwed the pooch on this one. But look at what happened on Fox News over the two days of this story. Day 1, they were beating on the drum that she needed to be dismissed immediately or be branded "racist" towards white people. Day 2, they're excoriating the Administration over the rush to judgement.

    The Administration isn't blameless at all. But blame is a lot like fertilizer...you gotta spread it where it belongs.

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    RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2010
    Rust wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Even if the media triumphs in informing people about the truth on this story Breitbart "broke," the fact of the matter is he got someone to lose their job. Until that's reversed, he still unfortunately got what he was after.

    Vilisack has offered reinstatement. And Breitbart may have overextended and left himself legally exposed.

    I don't think he got what he was looking for.

    on the other hand, jesus, this was a slipup on the obama administration's part

    the message this sent was, have millions of gallons of oil pouring into the gulf and we'll wag our fingers and wring our hands, but if fox news says bad things about someone we will come down on them like the wrath of God

    i understand that the race issue is touchy thanks to our current president, but have a little fucking forethought

    No doubt the White House screwed the pooch on this one. But look at what happened on Fox News over the two days of this story. Day 1, they were beating on the drum that she needed to be dismissed immediately or be branded "racist" towards white people. Day 2, they're excoriating the Administration over the rush to judgement.

    The Administration isn't blameless at all. But blame is a lot like fertilizer...you gotta spread it where it belongs.

    fox news exists in a perpetual state of blame

    blaming it for anything is sort of redundant at this point

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Rust wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Even if the media triumphs in informing people about the truth on this story Breitbart "broke," the fact of the matter is he got someone to lose their job. Until that's reversed, he still unfortunately got what he was after.

    Vilisack has offered reinstatement. And Breitbart may have overextended and left himself legally exposed.

    I don't think he got what he was looking for.

    on the other hand, jesus, this was a slipup on the obama administration's part

    the message this sent was, have millions of gallons of oil pouring into the gulf and we'll wag our fingers and wring our hands, but if fox news says bad things about someone we will come down on them like the wrath of God

    i understand that the race issue is touchy thanks to our current president, but have a little fucking forethought

    No doubt the White House screwed the pooch on this one. But look at what happened on Fox News over the two days of this story. Day 1, they were beating on the drum that she needed to be dismissed immediately or be branded "racist" towards white people. Day 2, they're excoriating the Administration over the rush to judgement.

    The Administration isn't blameless at all. But blame is a lot like fertilizer...you gotta spread it where it belongs.

    I guess the thing is one of those organizations I still have (positive) expectations from.

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    TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Maddow is far and away my favorite person in cable news. She has a good team of researchers, can have civil discussions with people she disagrees with AND stop them from just ranting inane nonsense for five minutes. And she tries to cover stories that no one else wants to touch. In other words, despite being an opinion show I feel like I get more news and reporting in that one hour than in the other 23.

    I like Shep Smith, but not enough to go anywhere near Fox News.

    On CNN, Anderson Cooper is ok. As is Campbell Brown (she's on her way out, though). She had some great moments during the election.

    I wish I had a 24-hour BBC news channel, though. With an hour of Maddow. Or two.

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    wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Campbell Brown failed for the same reasons that CNN is failing: inability to recognize the market for cable news, along with a flawed idea of what constitutes journalism. A show like hers was never going to compete with O'Reilly and Olbermann. We'll see if Rick Sanchez makes better headway.

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    TlexTlex Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    seriously

    America just needs to pay the BBC to do all of its reporting

    it would all be so much easier

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    TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Tlex wrote: »
    seriously

    America just needs to pay the BBC to do all of its reporting

    it would all be so much easier

    Get our news from a socialist news network? NEVER!

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
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    SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/07/22/2010-07-22_andrew_breitbart_was_victim_of_fraud_in_shirley_sherrod_story_says_ann_coulter.html
    Forget Shirley Sherrod, Andrew Breitbart is the real victim.

    That's what Ann Coulter believes, anyway.

    "The whole key to this story is that Andrew Breitbart was set up," the fiery right-wing writer told Sean Hannity on Fox News on Wednesday.

    She argued that the conservative blogger was the victim of a "fraud" by the person who sent him the edited video.

    "The person who sent the edited tape has to know what the full speech said," she argued, noting that Breitbart should "reveal his source."

    "He was set up," Coulter said. "This was a fraud."

    That poor, poor little shitheel.

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    lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Ohgod.

    I thought she'd crawled under a rock somewhere and was going to stay there forevers.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Now that I think about it, does Coulter count as a news media personality? I mean, it's a shitty personality, but I think it counts. I mean, she. She counts. ha haaaaa

    At any rate, I love how it's impossible for right-wingers to do wrong. Always a cover-up or conspiracy at play!

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    lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Also also

    GO RACHEL

    I'm sorry, but I just watched her response to O'Reilly. Classic, classy, and fantastic.

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    SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Well it's not all bad.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/22/agriculture.employee.usda/index.html?video=true&hpt=T2
    Obama spoke Thursday with Sherrod, who received a text message telling her Obama had been trying to reach her since Wednesday night, said Julie O'Neill, a CNN Special Investigations Unit producer who was with her at the time. Sherrod called the White House and was asked to call back in 10 minutes, at which time she spoke to the president.

    Sherrod was "very, very pleased with the conversation," and indicated that Obama said Vilsack was "very apologetic and very sincere." Vilsack apologized to Sherrod on Wednesday and offered her a different position within the department.

    But wait!
    (CNN) – Rush Limbaugh said Thursday on his radio show that Fox News and at least one of its anchors "caved" in its coverage of Shirley Sherrod, the former USDA employee who was fired in haste on Monday after an edited clip of her was posted on a conservative website.

    "I have to go after it … because even Fox caved on this," Limbaugh said. "Even Shep Smith. Even poor old Shep Smith went down there and said that everybody's wrong on this, that [BigGovernment.com founder Andrew] Breitbart is wrong and so forth. There's only a handful of us that have the guts to put this story straight. If we don't hammer back nobody will."

    Limbaugh dismissed the story, saying he was bored by it.

    "It's nothing more than the left playing the race card, the NAACP has thrown down the gauntlet because the big government argument has failed," Limbaugh said. "They are keeping alive the divisions in this country and I hate taking the bait, I hate playing along with it, I simply despise the whole thing."

    "We've got a bunch of cowards in the conservative media inside the beltway which will not deal with this honestly," Limbaugh added.

    This whole saga has been simultaneously depressing, frustrating, and now mildly amusing in everybody trying like hell to backtrack.

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    wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I just keep wishing that there really was a shadowy left wing cabal that was masterfully setting up all of these right wing nuts. The right keeps getting me excited about the possibility, only to dash my hopes by just revealing themselves to be horrible people.

    EDIT: Also, anything that pisses off Limbaugh makes me happy.

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    never dienever die Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Yeah, fuck Shep Smith! How dare he not run a dubious, supsicious story to keep credibility!

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    lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    There are reasons that I enjoy Rachel Maddow.

    Tonight's segment, The Interview, with Former 1Lt Dan Choi (who was honorably discharged today from the military for being gay and announcing it on Rachel's show about 17mos ago) is just a fantastic, and oddly highly emotional segment.

    I am highly impressed with her ability to not cry. I had tears in my eyes. Really, a must watch.

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    SithDrummerSithDrummer Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SrTZSsNd60&feature=related

    Some of the footage that Shep did while covering the recent OJ trial is hilarious. I can't remember when it happened, but once when I was watching he started talking about how tired he is of OJ and that he wishes they'd just make another Naked Gun movie.


    edit: It's at around 5:20
    I only just saw this clip, but holy shit. My love for Shep Smith grows with every new broadcast

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    rndmherorndmhero Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Suriko wrote: »
    (CNN) – Rush Limbaugh said Thursday on his radio show that Fox News and at least one of its anchors "caved" in its coverage of Shirley Sherrod, the former USDA employee who was fired in haste on Monday after an edited clip of her was posted on a conservative website.

    "I have to go after it … because even Fox caved on this," Limbaugh said. "Even Shep Smith. Even poor old Shep Smith went down there and said that everybody's wrong on this, that [BigGovernment.com founder Andrew] Breitbart is wrong and so forth. There's only a handful of us that have the guts to put this story straight. If we don't hammer back nobody will."

    Limbaugh dismissed the story, saying he was bored by it.

    "It's nothing more than the left playing the race card, the NAACP has thrown down the gauntlet because the big government argument has failed," Limbaugh said. "They are keeping alive the divisions in this country and I hate taking the bait, I hate playing along with it, I simply despise the whole thing."

    "We've got a bunch of cowards in the conservative media inside the beltway which will not deal with this honestly," Limbaugh added.

    This whole saga has been simultaneously depressing, frustrating, and now mildly amusing in everybody trying like hell to backtrack.

    I heard that clip on Media Matters, and he never actually explained how or what he was hammering back about. Just that he was MAD AS HELL and was not going to let the left get away with it!

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    wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Daniel Schorr has passed away. You won't have heard of him unless you listen to NPR, but he was a good commentator.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I think Rush was trying to hammer back on it by not covering the story, but he ended up giving his opinion anyway. Part of his opinion is that Fox should have ignored it, even Shep who offered a differing opinion from the network at large.

    So I mean... Rush is just being silly goosey there. By stating he wasn't going to cover it and why, he ended up doing so.

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    ApollohApolloh Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Henroid wrote: »
    I think Rush was trying to hammer back on it by not covering the story, but he ended up giving his opinion anyway. Part of his opinion is that Fox should have ignored it, even Shep who offered a differing opinion from the network at large.

    So I mean... Rush is just being silly goosey there. By stating he wasn't going to cover it and why, he ended up doing so.

    Its not really silly goosery when its intentional.

    Its more like calculated goosery.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Apolloh wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    I think Rush was trying to hammer back on it by not covering the story, but he ended up giving his opinion anyway. Part of his opinion is that Fox should have ignored it, even Shep who offered a differing opinion from the network at large.

    So I mean... Rush is just being silly goosey there. By stating he wasn't going to cover it and why, he ended up doing so.

    Its not really silly goosery when its intentional.

    Its more like calculated goosery.

    Wait. Are you saying he pulled a Reagan?

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    ApollohApolloh Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Henroid wrote: »
    Apolloh wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    I think Rush was trying to hammer back on it by not covering the story, but he ended up giving his opinion anyway. Part of his opinion is that Fox should have ignored it, even Shep who offered a differing opinion from the network at large.

    So I mean... Rush is just being silly goosey there. By stating he wasn't going to cover it and why, he ended up doing so.

    Its not really silly goosery when its intentional.

    Its more like calculated goosery.

    Wait. Are you saying he pulled a Reagan?

    No, because Reagan calculated his bullshit on a level Rush Limbaugh cant even imagine.

    But in the same vein yeah.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Man, normally Rachel's pretty smart, but tonight not so much.

    Why isn't the President getting credit for his accomplishment? Because unemployment is 9.7%!

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    The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Forget Shirley Sherrod, Andrew Breitbart is the real victim.

    That's what Ann Coulter believes, anyway.

    "The whole key to this story is that Andrew Breitbart was set up," the fiery right-wing writer told Sean Hannity on Fox News on Wednesday.

    She argued that the conservative blogger was the victim of a "fraud" by the person who sent him the edited video.

    "The person who sent the edited tape has to know what the full speech said," she argued, noting that Breitbart should "reveal his source."

    "He was set up," Coulter said. "This was a fraud."

    Man, I have to admit that I love Sean Hannity and Anne Coulter. They're both so far off the deep end that it can be priceless at times; anyone else see the clip of Hannity doing the 'news story' where he essentially confessed to living in fear of psychic vampires?

    Anyone else go to Anne Coulter's little talk while she was in Calgary? Some guy asked her at the end what her opinion was of evolutionary biology, and she went and drove her credibility right off the cliff, claiming that Francis Crick denounced the theory. lolwut?

    Even the conservative whackos in the crowd had a hard time with that one - the room kinda went quiet and a few folks let out a nervous chuckle or two.

    "Yeah, Anne! Go get that... damn... science... that makes us all our money...

    ohgodshereallyiscrazy."


    I can't tell if either of them is just putting on the crazy town act for show or not (like Rush is), but I'd like to think that they're at least honestly loco. :)

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    Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Make no mistake, with Ann Coulter, it's never an act.

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    Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    wwtMask wrote: »
    Daniel Schorr has passed away. You won't have heard of him unless you listen to NPR, but he was a good commentator.

    Dude was old when I was BORN.

    I've been expecting this for years now.

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    LawndartLawndart Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Jesus, Anderson Cooper's bullshit false equivalency tapdance about the Shirley Sharrod thing made me want to punch him and Erik "Goat-Fucking Child Molester" Erikson through the TV.

    And of course now they're covering the "New Black Panther Party" non-story, too.

    Jesus, fuckers, the lesson here is to never, ever, trust the shit that Fox News and wingnut blogs are vomiting forth, since it's blatantly obvious they're either outright lying or at the very best not fact-checking at all.

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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Make no mistake, with Ann Coulter, it's never an act.

    Ann may not be an act, but Glenn Beck has to be. I listen to his radio show, and occasionally his evening show, as well. It just has to be an act. If he really believed these things "needed" to be told to the people, he wouldn't be charging people for them, he'd be spending his own money to get the word out. He can't possibly believe most of the crap that spews forth from his silly goose-hole.

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    GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    About Beck: that go-blind-in-a-year thing is terrible to have happen to anyone, but if nothing else he's probably going to have no choice but to learn a very harshly-taught lesson. As Colbert would say... soon, he won't see race.

    Any race-baiting done from the day his sight goes is going to be done from a position of zero credibility. All someone has to say is 'what does it matter to you anymore'.

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    The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Gosling wrote: »
    About Beck: that go-blind-in-a-year thing is terrible to have happen to anyone, but if nothing else he's probably going to have no choice but to learn a very harshly-taught lesson. As Colbert would say... soon, he won't see race.

    Any race-baiting done from the day his sight goes is going to be done from a position of zero credibility. All someone has to say is 'what does it matter to you anymore'.

    He's going blind?


    Oh, man, that's karmic comedy right there. Exactly what somebody who tows the white supremacist line, even if they don't actually believe it, deserves.

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