The barber we used to go as a kid would finish off your haircut by shaving your neck with a straightrazor.
He was probably the last barber within miles that knew how to do it.
I never understood how anyone managed to get by with only going to the barber for shaves. Did they go to the barber every single morning for a shave? Or did they just go once a week and spend most of the week with scraggly beard growth?
DID anyone?
My impression is more that you would get a professional shave when you got your haircut, and shave yourself on other days.
It is more of a treat for yourself, since you are already in the chair.
I guess that would make more sense. But then everyone would have to know how to shave themselves with a straight razor, and keep it sharp. I guess they went to a blacksmith to get it sharpened?
The barber we used to go as a kid would finish off your haircut by shaving your neck with a straightrazor.
He was probably the last barber within miles that knew how to do it.
I never understood how anyone managed to get by with only going to the barber for shaves. Did they go to the barber every single morning for a shave? Or did they just go once a week and spend most of the week with scraggly beard growth?
DID anyone?
My impression is more that you would get a professional shave when you got your haircut, and shave yourself on other days.
It is more of a treat for yourself, since you are already in the chair.
I guess that would make more sense. But then everyone would have to know how to shave themselves with a straight razor, and keep it sharp. I guess they went to a blacksmith to get it sharpened?
how long ago were we talking? I mean, I was thinking about a hundred years ago, not five hundred.
The barber we used to go as a kid would finish off your haircut by shaving your neck with a straightrazor.
He was probably the last barber within miles that knew how to do it.
I never understood how anyone managed to get by with only going to the barber for shaves. Did they go to the barber every single morning for a shave? Or did they just go once a week and spend most of the week with scraggly beard growth?
DID anyone?
My impression is more that you would get a professional shave when you got your haircut, and shave yourself on other days.
It is more of a treat for yourself, since you are already in the chair.
I guess that would make more sense. But then everyone would have to know how to shave themselves with a straight razor, and keep it sharp. I guess they went to a blacksmith to get it sharpened?
how long ago were we talking? I mean, I was thinking about a hundred years ago, not five hundred.
Either way would be the same, wouldn't it? They still had blacksmiths 100 years ago, and I don't think there were any disposable blades yet. Although I'm guessing that, 500 years go, most people just didn't shave at all.
The barber we used to go as a kid would finish off your haircut by shaving your neck with a straightrazor.
He was probably the last barber within miles that knew how to do it.
I never understood how anyone managed to get by with only going to the barber for shaves. Did they go to the barber every single morning for a shave? Or did they just go once a week and spend most of the week with scraggly beard growth?
DID anyone?
My impression is more that you would get a professional shave when you got your haircut, and shave yourself on other days.
It is more of a treat for yourself, since you are already in the chair.
I guess that would make more sense. But then everyone would have to know how to shave themselves with a straight razor, and keep it sharp. I guess they went to a blacksmith to get it sharpened?
how long ago were we talking? I mean, I was thinking about a hundred years ago, not five hundred.
Either way would be the same, wouldn't it? They still had blacksmiths 100 years ago, and I don't think there were any disposable blades yet. Although I'm guessing that, 500 years go, most people just didn't shave at all.
People had their own strops and sharpening stones.
I learned how to sharpen a knife blade in the boyscouts, a dozen or so years ago. It is not a new concept.
The barber we used to go as a kid would finish off your haircut by shaving your neck with a straightrazor.
He was probably the last barber within miles that knew how to do it.
I never understood how anyone managed to get by with only going to the barber for shaves. Did they go to the barber every single morning for a shave? Or did they just go once a week and spend most of the week with scraggly beard growth?
DID anyone?
My impression is more that you would get a professional shave when you got your haircut, and shave yourself on other days.
It is more of a treat for yourself, since you are already in the chair.
I guess that would make more sense. But then everyone would have to know how to shave themselves with a straight razor, and keep it sharp. I guess they went to a blacksmith to get it sharpened?
how long ago were we talking? I mean, I was thinking about a hundred years ago, not five hundred.
Either way would be the same, wouldn't it? They still had blacksmiths 100 years ago, and I don't think there were any disposable blades yet. Although I'm guessing that, 500 years go, most people just didn't shave at all.
People had their own strops and sharpening stones.
I learned how to sharpen a knife blade in the boyscouts, a dozen or so years ago. It is not a new concept.
sharpening a razor blade is a lot more difficult than sharpening a pocket knife, though.
The barber we used to go as a kid would finish off your haircut by shaving your neck with a straightrazor.
He was probably the last barber within miles that knew how to do it.
I never understood how anyone managed to get by with only going to the barber for shaves. Did they go to the barber every single morning for a shave? Or did they just go once a week and spend most of the week with scraggly beard growth?
DID anyone?
My impression is more that you would get a professional shave when you got your haircut, and shave yourself on other days.
It is more of a treat for yourself, since you are already in the chair.
I guess that would make more sense. But then everyone would have to know how to shave themselves with a straight razor, and keep it sharp. I guess they went to a blacksmith to get it sharpened?
how long ago were we talking? I mean, I was thinking about a hundred years ago, not five hundred.
Either way would be the same, wouldn't it? They still had blacksmiths 100 years ago, and I don't think there were any disposable blades yet. Although I'm guessing that, 500 years go, most people just didn't shave at all.
People had their own strops and sharpening stones.
I learned how to sharpen a knife blade in the boyscouts, a dozen or so years ago. It is not a new concept.
sharpening a razor blade is a lot more difficult than sharpening a pocket knife, though.
And we're talking about adults doing it, not children.
Seriously, tons of people do it on their own today. why would it be any different in the past?
The barber we used to go as a kid would finish off your haircut by shaving your neck with a straightrazor.
He was probably the last barber within miles that knew how to do it.
I never understood how anyone managed to get by with only going to the barber for shaves. Did they go to the barber every single morning for a shave? Or did they just go once a week and spend most of the week with scraggly beard growth?
DID anyone?
My impression is more that you would get a professional shave when you got your haircut, and shave yourself on other days.
It is more of a treat for yourself, since you are already in the chair.
I guess that would make more sense. But then everyone would have to know how to shave themselves with a straight razor, and keep it sharp. I guess they went to a blacksmith to get it sharpened?
how long ago were we talking? I mean, I was thinking about a hundred years ago, not five hundred.
Either way would be the same, wouldn't it? They still had blacksmiths 100 years ago, and I don't think there were any disposable blades yet. Although I'm guessing that, 500 years go, most people just didn't shave at all.
People had their own strops and sharpening stones.
I learned how to sharpen a knife blade in the boyscouts, a dozen or so years ago. It is not a new concept.
sharpening a razor blade is a lot more difficult than sharpening a pocket knife, though.
And we're talking about adults doing it, not children.
Seriously, tons of people do it on their own today. why would it be any different in the past?
Yeah I guess so. I've never tried it so I have no idea how hard it would be.
I mean, everyone we are talking about here takes a razor sharp blade to their face and doesn't cause significant accidental damage. presumably if you have a steady enough hand to shave, you have a steady enough hand to sharpen
About to order a Merkur Vision. This thread will get expensive, won't it?
Well, the upfront cost is there, but the thing is that you will save money in the long run. If you're like me, a lot of money. My whole new setup - razor, soap, brush and 20 blades - cost me than less than 50 dollars. Sure, that's a bit when you're already shaving and have the gear you do. But each set of five cartridges for my old razor was 30 dollars. Suddenly it wasn't so hard to justify that instead of spending that, I just ordered an entire set that should last me much, much longer.
The barber we used to go as a kid would finish off your haircut by shaving your neck with a straightrazor.
He was probably the last barber within miles that knew how to do it.
When I was back in Seattle i was discussing with my barber there about how wonderful a barbershop straight razor shave is, having had one do that for me in Mass once.
And I was then informed that such shaving is illegal in WA
Edit: Full disclosure. I love my Merkur Futur. It would be nicer with a more rough handle, but the thing is nearly 5 OZ which makes up for it.
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About to order a Merkur Vision. This thread will get expensive, won't it?
Well, the upfront cost is there, but the thing is that you will save money in the long run. If you're like me, a lot of money. My whole new setup - razor, soap, brush and 20 blades - cost me than less than 50 dollars. Sure, that's a bit when you're already shaving and have the gear you do. But each set of five cartridges for my old razor was 30 dollars. Suddenly it wasn't so hard to justify that instead of spending that, I just ordered an entire set that should last me much, much longer.
Where did you find such a set and which razor did you use?
I'm looking at a Merkur 38C, it seems to be generally accepted as a good time. Is it essentially to get shaving soap and a badger brush? I have some other gels that would need to be used up anyhow.
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Throw the gels away.
A badger brush is more of a luxury (seriously, mine is awesome soft) than a requirement for a good shave. Get a non-shitty boar brush and you'll be fine, buy the badger brush if/when you say, "ya know, I'd like a nice soft luxurious brush..." Hell, I'm tempted to buy a boar brush to see if its' stiff bristles help.
You don't need to get soap, you can also get a shaving cream (not aerosol). Consider getting a non-glycerin soap. For instance, Col. Conk is a soli and cheap brand, but I freaking love my Lanolin and Shea Butter based soaps.
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About to order a Merkur Vision. This thread will get expensive, won't it?
Well, the upfront cost is there, but the thing is that you will save money in the long run. If you're like me, a lot of money. My whole new setup - razor, soap, brush and 20 blades - cost me than less than 50 dollars. Sure, that's a bit when you're already shaving and have the gear you do. But each set of five cartridges for my old razor was 30 dollars. Suddenly it wasn't so hard to justify that instead of spending that, I just ordered an entire set that should last me much, much longer.
Where did you find such a set and which razor did you use?
I'm looking at a Merkur 38C, it seems to be generally accepted as a good time. Is it essentially to get shaving soap and a badger brush? I have some other gels that would need to be used up anyhow.
It wasn't a set per se, but rather just the shaving set I assembled. It was indeed the 38C, a proraso shaving soap (the cream is the same prize and generally supposed to be better) and the blades were a 20 pack of Derby Extras (besides the ones the razor came with). I remember now that I actually had a brush, but it broke last night and I just got me a new "badger-mix" brush (whatever that is, probably synthetic). All new and I'm pretty sure I haven't cracked 50 dollars yet.
The barber we used to go as a kid would finish off your haircut by shaving your neck with a straightrazor.
He was probably the last barber within miles that knew how to do it.
I never understood how anyone managed to get by with only going to the barber for shaves. Did they go to the barber every single morning for a shave? Or did they just go once a week and spend most of the week with scraggly beard growth?
DID anyone?
My impression is more that you would get a professional shave when you got your haircut, and shave yourself on other days.
It is more of a treat for yourself, since you are already in the chair.
I guess that would make more sense. But then everyone would have to know how to shave themselves with a straight razor, and keep it sharp. I guess they went to a blacksmith to get it sharpened?
how long ago were we talking? I mean, I was thinking about a hundred years ago, not five hundred.
Either way would be the same, wouldn't it? They still had blacksmiths 100 years ago, and I don't think there were any disposable blades yet. Although I'm guessing that, 500 years go, most people just didn't shave at all.
Are you fucking kidding me? People back then were just as smart as we are today, we just have more information at our disposal. Man has been shaving since ancient cultures. 100 years ago I'll wager most men knew how to hone a blade. Everyone did not have a beard.
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The barber we used to go as a kid would finish off your haircut by shaving your neck with a straightrazor.
He was probably the last barber within miles that knew how to do it.
I never understood how anyone managed to get by with only going to the barber for shaves. Did they go to the barber every single morning for a shave? Or did they just go once a week and spend most of the week with scraggly beard growth?
DID anyone?
My impression is more that you would get a professional shave when you got your haircut, and shave yourself on other days.
It is more of a treat for yourself, since you are already in the chair.
I guess that would make more sense. But then everyone would have to know how to shave themselves with a straight razor, and keep it sharp. I guess they went to a blacksmith to get it sharpened?
how long ago were we talking? I mean, I was thinking about a hundred years ago, not five hundred.
Either way would be the same, wouldn't it? They still had blacksmiths 100 years ago, and I don't think there were any disposable blades yet. Although I'm guessing that, 500 years go, most people just didn't shave at all.
Are you fucking kidding me? People back then were just as smart as we are today, we just have more information at our disposal. Man has been shaving since ancient cultures. 100 years ago I'll wager most men knew how to hone a blade. Everyone did not have a beard.
well, people in the middle ages were not known for having great personal hygeine, and most people then were farmers, so why would they even care? Plus it's a lot harder to shave when you have to bring up water from a well, and shave by candlelight if you wake up before the sun comes up.
They didn't have good personal hygiene because they didn't know any better. They knew how to shave. Also, not everyone shaves in the morning, that is not a requirement for shaving. Also, most houses had supplies of water they would draw from so that they didn't have to go to the well every time they needed some, I'd suspect. And yea, I bet its a bitch to do anything by candlelight but hey, people living in desolate parts of the world still don't have electricity and yet they manage to shave.
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Also 500 years ago people didn't shave? That's just not true. In the 1500s even women shaved. Well, their eyebrows, but still. Later they would shave their heads entirely to accommodate increasingly ridiculous wigs. Even the Aztecs shaved with sharp volcanic rock. The straight-razor is from when? Late 1600s or something like that?
Nonsense, further derailment ahoi! Consider, the word barbarian means bearded ones. In ancient Greek times that was the mark of an underdeveloped society; they hadn't yet development technology to make razor sharp blades. We have evidence of copper razors (India, Egypt) going back as far as 3000 BC. Alexander the Great insisted that all his troops shaved.
And finally, here's an imagine of a Roman razor ("novacila") to haunt your dreams.
Throw the gels away.
A badger brush is more of a luxury (seriously, mine is awesome soft) than a requirement for a good shave. Get a non-shitty boar brush and you'll be fine, buy the badger brush if/when you say, "ya know, I'd like a nice soft luxurious brush..." Hell, I'm tempted to buy a boar brush to see if its' stiff bristles help.
You don't need to get soap, you can also get a shaving cream (not aerosol). Consider getting a non-glycerin soap. For instance, Col. Conk is a soli and cheap brand, but I freaking love my Lanolin and Shea Butter based soaps.
I already have some pretty damn nice shaving creams too. It's all real shave company stuff, which I have found dramatically improved my shave, but it's never all that close, which is why I'm making the swap.
I'm just trying to find a decent price on a 38C, it's looking at about £37, which seems a bit much.
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You don't need a 38C. Check ebay for some neat vintage ones, or as I mentioned a few pages back, check BadgerAndBalde's BST forum. You can get some great equipment from those guys. They are serious collectors who have a ton of stuff.
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Throw the gels away.
A badger brush is more of a luxury (seriously, mine is awesome soft) than a requirement for a good shave. Get a non-shitty boar brush and you'll be fine, buy the badger brush if/when you say, "ya know, I'd like a nice soft luxurious brush..." Hell, I'm tempted to buy a boar brush to see if its' stiff bristles help.
You don't need to get soap, you can also get a shaving cream (not aerosol). Consider getting a non-glycerin soap. For instance, Col. Conk is a soli and cheap brand, but I freaking love my Lanolin and Shea Butter based soaps.
I already have some pretty damn nice shaving creams too. It's all real shave company stuff, which I have found dramatically improved my shave, but it's never all that close, which is why I'm making the swap.
I'm just trying to find a decent price on a 38C, it's looking at about £37, which seems a bit much.
Since you're listing the price in pounds, maybe this would be of interest?
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Thanks for the noble intentions guys. Sadly you're helpful advice and links comes far too late. I have just placed an order.
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I think it's pretty ridiculous to think that people in the past couldn't sharpen a blade. Most people nowadays can't work on their own cars, but you can bet your grandfather knew how to do routine maintenance.
Bought an old Gillette SS for 8 bucks on ebay. Proraso cream, and an omega badger brush. I initially bought the blade sampler pack from west coast shaving and I took to the red personnas. Then one day, I'm at walmart and notice they have a knock-off brand personna pack of 10 blades for like $1.70. They work like a charm, and have been using them ever since.
The barber we used to go as a kid would finish off your haircut by shaving your neck with a straightrazor.
He was probably the last barber within miles that knew how to do it.
The last barber I went to who knew how to shave me with a straight-razor stopped doing it once I saw how bad he had the DTs. You'd just see that little glint of metal in your peripheral vision shaking like mad and it'd be like, "nope, I can do that." He seemed kinda sad when we turned him down.
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Most barbers I've visited in the UK finish the edges with a straight razor. It's quite nice.
I've not been for a haircut in years though.
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The barber we used to go as a kid would finish off your haircut by shaving your neck with a straightrazor.
He was probably the last barber within miles that knew how to do it.
The last barber I went to who knew how to shave me with a straight-razor stopped doing it once I saw how bad he had the DTs. You'd just see that little glint of metal in your peripheral vision shaking like mad and it'd be like, "nope, I can do that." He seemed kinda sad when we turned him down.
Recently I toyed with the idea of opening a nice barbershop for straight shaving. I didn't apply myself to the task, but in a short weekly search I couldn't find a barber who didn't suffer from serious alcohol addiction.
Good barbers are a dying breed and I'm honestly not sure if I'd feel comfortable with somebody young shaving me.
Edit: To be more precise, barbershops are virtually extinct where I am, so finding an actual barber was trickier than it sounds.
There are a few barbershops around here, but they're either very redneck or they're in a part of town that is... unwelcoming.
Frankly, the best haircuts I can get in this town for the best prices are in the Vietnamese areas. They don't have barbershops (or at least if they there, they aren't labeled), but the hairdressers are pretty good at giving me a clean, consistent haircut. I'm not going to be able to get any Flock of Seagulls shit going on, but for a $5~$10 haircut... what the hell do you expect?
The barber we used to go as a kid would finish off your haircut by shaving your neck with a straightrazor.
He was probably the last barber within miles that knew how to do it.
The last barber I went to who knew how to shave me with a straight-razor stopped doing it once I saw how bad he had the DTs. You'd just see that little glint of metal in your peripheral vision shaking like mad and it'd be like, "nope, I can do that." He seemed kinda sad when we turned him down.
Recently I toyed with the idea of opening a nice barbershop for straight shaving. I didn't apply myself to the task, but in a short weekly search I couldn't find a barber who didn't suffer from serious alcohol addiction.
Good barbers are a dying breed and I'm honestly not sure if I'd feel comfortable with somebody young shaving me.
Edit: To be more precise, barbershops are virtually extinct where I am, so finding an actual barber was trickier than it sounds.
Yeah, everyone these days is a "hairstylist."
I've been going to the same Barber for 9 years. He's in the Student Union of the university I work at. I don't think he's close to retiring yet but I hope to God he doesn't anytime soon. Don't know what I would do. I really like being able to go and get a haircut without telling him how I want my hair cut at all.
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how long ago were we talking? I mean, I was thinking about a hundred years ago, not five hundred.
People had their own strops and sharpening stones.
I learned how to sharpen a knife blade in the boyscouts, a dozen or so years ago. It is not a new concept.
And we're talking about adults doing it, not children.
Seriously, tons of people do it on their own today. why would it be any different in the past?
Well, the upfront cost is there, but the thing is that you will save money in the long run. If you're like me, a lot of money. My whole new setup - razor, soap, brush and 20 blades - cost me than less than 50 dollars. Sure, that's a bit when you're already shaving and have the gear you do. But each set of five cartridges for my old razor was 30 dollars. Suddenly it wasn't so hard to justify that instead of spending that, I just ordered an entire set that should last me much, much longer.
And I was then informed that such shaving is illegal in WA
Edit: Full disclosure. I love my Merkur Futur. It would be nicer with a more rough handle, but the thing is nearly 5 OZ which makes up for it.
Where did you find such a set and which razor did you use?
I'm looking at a Merkur 38C, it seems to be generally accepted as a good time. Is it essentially to get shaving soap and a badger brush? I have some other gels that would need to be used up anyhow.
A badger brush is more of a luxury (seriously, mine is awesome soft) than a requirement for a good shave. Get a non-shitty boar brush and you'll be fine, buy the badger brush if/when you say, "ya know, I'd like a nice soft luxurious brush..." Hell, I'm tempted to buy a boar brush to see if its' stiff bristles help.
You don't need to get soap, you can also get a shaving cream (not aerosol). Consider getting a non-glycerin soap. For instance, Col. Conk is a soli and cheap brand, but I freaking love my Lanolin and Shea Butter based soaps.
It wasn't a set per se, but rather just the shaving set I assembled. It was indeed the 38C, a proraso shaving soap (the cream is the same prize and generally supposed to be better) and the blades were a 20 pack of Derby Extras (besides the ones the razor came with). I remember now that I actually had a brush, but it broke last night and I just got me a new "badger-mix" brush (whatever that is, probably synthetic). All new and I'm pretty sure I haven't cracked 50 dollars yet.
well, people in the middle ages were not known for having great personal hygeine, and most people then were farmers, so why would they even care? Plus it's a lot harder to shave when you have to bring up water from a well, and shave by candlelight if you wake up before the sun comes up.
Anyway, no further derailment of the thread.
And finally, here's an imagine of a Roman razor ("novacila") to haunt your dreams.
I've never used it. I just can't get used to some bloke putting a straight razor to my throat.
I already have some pretty damn nice shaving creams too. It's all real shave company stuff, which I have found dramatically improved my shave, but it's never all that close, which is why I'm making the swap.
I'm just trying to find a decent price on a 38C, it's looking at about £37, which seems a bit much.
Since you're listing the price in pounds, maybe this would be of interest?
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I'm pretty sure I would have been terrified to have a dude with prison tats taking a blade to my face/throat.
Come on now. Prison tats?
edit: And nobody is touching my face with a blade even if it's a 50 year old nice old man who's been a barber his whole life.
Fine.
Gang tats.
"The Barbers" territory - corner of 8th & Main.
Bought an old Gillette SS for 8 bucks on ebay. Proraso cream, and an omega badger brush. I initially bought the blade sampler pack from west coast shaving and I took to the red personnas. Then one day, I'm at walmart and notice they have a knock-off brand personna pack of 10 blades for like $1.70. They work like a charm, and have been using them ever since.
which is in fact the store policy.
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Or... that could be his policy as a drug dealer.
The last barber I went to who knew how to shave me with a straight-razor stopped doing it once I saw how bad he had the DTs. You'd just see that little glint of metal in your peripheral vision shaking like mad and it'd be like, "nope, I can do that." He seemed kinda sad when we turned him down.
I've not been for a haircut in years though.
Recently I toyed with the idea of opening a nice barbershop for straight shaving. I didn't apply myself to the task, but in a short weekly search I couldn't find a barber who didn't suffer from serious alcohol addiction.
Good barbers are a dying breed and I'm honestly not sure if I'd feel comfortable with somebody young shaving me.
Edit: To be more precise, barbershops are virtually extinct where I am, so finding an actual barber was trickier than it sounds.
i've been using the same norelco electric for the last... 7 years probably. i changed the blades once. oh well. least it has saved me so much money.
Frankly, the best haircuts I can get in this town for the best prices are in the Vietnamese areas. They don't have barbershops (or at least if they there, they aren't labeled), but the hairdressers are pretty good at giving me a clean, consistent haircut. I'm not going to be able to get any Flock of Seagulls shit going on, but for a $5~$10 haircut... what the hell do you expect?
Yeah, everyone these days is a "hairstylist."
I've been going to the same Barber for 9 years. He's in the Student Union of the university I work at. I don't think he's close to retiring yet but I hope to God he doesn't anytime soon. Don't know what I would do. I really like being able to go and get a haircut without telling him how I want my hair cut at all.
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