Really? Do you think that a large portion of the world has "Death to America" as a catch-phrase just because?
-US support of Israel
-Arming, training, and then abandoning militants in Afghanistan after using them to fight the USSR
-The fact that we consume an incredibly disproportionate amount of resources and produce likewise in pollution
I could go on all day.
the Al Qaeida attack on the US had nothing to do with pollution, and it had nothing to do with the US intervention in Afganistan or the subsequent "abandonment" of the lousy warlords we funded while over there.
In fact, the entire opposition to israel is the most irrational and propagandic political issue on the planet - any one of these countries could have offered political asylum to every palestinian in the country, built schools, build up their economy, or championed them in any number of meaningful ways. But these organizations don't give a shit about palestine and use opposition to Israel as a rallying standard to keep their populations from casting their gaze inwards or demanding real reforms to their crummy theocratic governments.
The fact that you would even pretend that "opposition to israel" is some sort of sympathetic, noble or reasonable cause is a howler. It's the kind of claim that a "question everything" liberal should be questioning is what I am saying here.
Pretending as though the US "had it coming" for 9/11 is so so stupid. Whatever your gripes are with our political system, they had absolutely nothing to do with the motivations of the terrorists.
I never said that 9/11 was justified. "Shit that drives a dude like Mohammad Ata to kill" and "justifiable reasons someone would kill" do not share a 1:1 correlation.
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Really? Do you think that a large portion of the world has "Death to America" as a catch-phrase just because?
-US support of Israel
-Arming, training, and then abandoning militants in Afghanistan after using them to fight the USSR
-The fact that we consume an incredibly disproportionate amount of resources and produce likewise in pollution
I could go on all day.
the Al Qaeida attack on the US had nothing to do with pollution, and it had nothing to do with the US intervention in Afganistan or the subsequent "abandonment" of the lousy warlords we funded while over there.
In fact, the entire opposition to israel is the most irrational and propagandic political issue on the planet - any one of these countries could have offered political asylum to every palestinian in the country, built schools, build up their economy, or championed them in any number of meaningful ways. But these organizations don't give a shit about palestine and use opposition to Israel as a rallying standard to keep their populations from casting their gaze inwards or demanding real reforms to their crummy theocratic governments.
The fact that you would even pretend that "opposition to israel" is some sort of sympathetic, noble or reasonable cause is a howler. It's the kind of claim that a "question everything" liberal should be questioning is what I am saying here.
Pretending as though the US "had it coming" for 9/11 is so so stupid. Whatever your gripes are with our political system, they had absolutely nothing to do with the motivations of the terrorists.
I never said that 9/11 was justified. "Shit that drives a dude like Mohammad Ata to kill" and "justifiable reasons someone would kill" do not share a 1:1 correlation.
what drove Mohammad Ata to kill?
Was it au understandable and sympathetic motivation? Is it the sort of thing that you would criticise America for? Did it revolve around pollution and resource consumption? Did it have to do with US aid to Afganistan in the 80s?
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Holy shit there is an epic storm outside.
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the idea that the concerns of islamic militants line up with those of the far left in any more than an utterly cursory way takes my fucking breath away.
the idea that the concerns of islamic militants line up with those of the far left in any more than an utterly cursory way takes my fucking breath away.
I was just about to post almost the same thing.
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I seem to have got a second wind after being absolutely knackered when I got home but not having a nap.
This does not bode well for the rest of the night.
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the idea that the concerns of islamic militants line up with those of the far left in any more than an utterly cursory way takes my fucking breath away.
b-b-but liberals
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have you ever been to the midwest? we get thunderstorms like whoa. you can see thunderheads coming in from the west, piled up a mile tall like the prow of the world's biggest ship. it's one of the consolations of living here as long as you're not in a flood-prone house.
Really? Do you think that a large portion of the world has "Death to America" as a catch-phrase just because?
-US support of Israel
-Arming, training, and then abandoning militants in Afghanistan after using them to fight the USSR
-The fact that we consume an incredibly disproportionate amount of resources and produce likewise in pollution
I could go on all day.
the Al Qaeida attack on the US had nothing to do with pollution, and it had nothing to do with the US intervention in Afganistan or the subsequent "abandonment" of the lousy warlords we funded while over there.
In fact, the entire opposition to israel is the most irrational and propagandic political issue on the planet - any one of these countries could have offered political asylum to every palestinian in the country, built schools, build up their economy, or championed them in any number of meaningful ways. But these organizations don't give a shit about palestine and use opposition to Israel as a rallying standard to keep their populations from casting their gaze inwards or demanding real reforms to their crummy theocratic governments.
The fact that you would even pretend that "opposition to israel" is some sort of sympathetic, noble or reasonable cause is a howler. It's the kind of claim that a "question everything" liberal should be questioning is what I am saying here.
Pretending as though the US "had it coming" for 9/11 is so so stupid. Whatever your gripes are with our political system, they had absolutely nothing to do with the motivations of the terrorists.
I never said that 9/11 was justified. "Shit that drives a dude like Mohammad Ata to kill" and "justifiable reasons someone would kill" do not share a 1:1 correlation.
what drove Mohammad Ata to kill?
Was it au understandable and sympathetic motivation? Is it the sort of thing that you would criticise America for? Did it revolve around pollution and resource consumption? Did it have to do with US aid to Afganistan in the 80s?
I can't speak to the motivations of that guy. What I was trying to get across is that Lawndart's statement reflected a very troubling sentiment that a lot of Americans expressed after 9/11: "Why would anyone want to hurt America?!", and that this sentiment is crazy.
the idea that the concerns of islamic militants line up with those of the far left in any more than an utterly cursory way takes my fucking breath away.
the idea that the concerns of islamic militants line up with reality in any way takes my fucking breath away.
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the idea that the concerns of islamic militants line up with those of the far left in any more than an utterly cursory way takes my fucking breath away.
the idea that the concerns of islamic militants line up with reality in any way takes my fucking breath away.
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ooohhh
i was gonna invite you and Robos to come do bar trivia with us tonight if you were on the T
really, you could still come if you were interested
Wow, Matt Lucas looks really skinny compared to Little Britain.
I never said that 9/11 was justified. "Shit that drives a dude like Mohammad Ata to kill" and "justifiable reasons someone would kill" do not share a 1:1 correlation.
I have plans tonight but thanks! I love bar trivia. Some other time hopefully!
This is quite problematic.
cool i will let you know
we generally go every few weeks
Buy new clothes, wear those. Problem solved.
I have 4 pairs of clean garments left. I should be fine...
Cool. It really is no trouble for me to get into the Boston area. I know all the places to park in Cambridge.
what drove Mohammad Ata to kill?
Was it au understandable and sympathetic motivation? Is it the sort of thing that you would criticise America for? Did it revolve around pollution and resource consumption? Did it have to do with US aid to Afganistan in the 80s?
Asgard.
I was just about to post almost the same thing.
This does not bode well for the rest of the night.
b-b-but liberals
the most important thing I can do for my mental and physical health is to resist the urge for a post-work nap.
also I'm doing this new thing where I dont' use the internet after 9 on a work night.
KC
have you ever been to the midwest? we get thunderstorms like whoa. you can see thunderheads coming in from the west, piled up a mile tall like the prow of the world's biggest ship. it's one of the consolations of living here as long as you're not in a flood-prone house.
The hell?
britspeak
do not begrudge him his atavistic tongue
I can't speak to the motivations of that guy. What I was trying to get across is that Lawndart's statement reflected a very troubling sentiment that a lot of Americans expressed after 9/11: "Why would anyone want to hurt America?!", and that this sentiment is crazy.
the idea that the concerns of islamic militants line up with reality in any way takes my fucking breath away.
Stopped clock/twice daily.
EDIT: skippy's post reminded me.
Usually I'm fine, and I've kinda been told to schedule naps every day, but I didn't fall straight asleep when I got home so missed out.
Random insomnia night, I guess.
givin people all rainbow windshields
if only you could make it say "YOU ARE A COCK" instead of a rainbow
my first thought was that it was street art
and you'd wipe your windshield and be like
fuck yes an unexpected rainbow
and then your post made me realize it is probably a prank and would probably upset most people
goddamn gays love carwrecks dont they
it beats the fuck out of the tree sap that's usually on there
sigh