The new forums will be named Coin Return (based on the most recent vote)! You can check on the status and timeline of the transition to the new forums here.
The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.
Penny Arcade Series 17: Drugs
Inebriated_Pixels
Registered User new member
Registered User new member
HI. I'm what the interwebs refer to as a lurker. I like to read user forums to see what people are like as their "Internet Selves" and to catch an interesting topic here and there, which is a rarity, but it does happen from time to time.
END POINTLESS MIND NUMBING INTRO.
I only recently discovered the Penny Arcade series because most of my lurking is done on GameTrailers and I just came across Episode 17 which chronicled Gabe and Tycho's ordeal with anxiety and how they dealt with by using prescription meds. I appreciate their openness with the subject and I respect for them for talking about it in general. Psychological issues aren't something to be ashamed of and need attention because their problems you just don't ignore and the more people there are who are willing to talk about it, the more people will get the help that they need.
What they failed to mention is that medication is not a silver bullet and their success is a mere minority among the people who have been diagnosed with depression and anxiety. Now, what I got from the video is simply this; "We both had/have an issue. It's an interesting topic and we both went out on limb and decided take the problem on with medication and it worked" I know that at no point did they both come out and say "Pills cure all your problems", But to somebody watching the video, this might actually hit home with them and they might actually go out and try it simply on a whim, thinking that all their problems end with one pill.
Psychological problems (most of them) are tackled and should be tackled with therapy first, and if the problem persists, then and ONLY then should medication be considered. I'm going to use a real-life example and I'll be doing this without using the persons name, not because I'm being a hypocrite and now all of a sudden I'm hesitant about talking about psychological issues, but because this is a person whom I care very much about and I know they wouldn't like it if I spread their name all over a forum, so there's going to be a lot of "This Person, That Person" wordplay going on, so try to hang on.
And no, I'm not using anonymity to talk about myself in third person.
This Person has a few diagnosed psychological problems and had recently went through a break up. The Other Partner in question's reason decided it was okay to tell an Already Clinically Depressed Person that They didn't enjoy the relationship because "They were going to end Their own life if They had to be around Somebody so depressed one more day". The Dumped Person got (more)depressed and wanted to get over it, because the depression was getting in the way of Their finals. They went for An Unadvised Prescription (Unadvised because it was not prescribed by Their therapist and no psychological assessment was done in the "perscribing" of This Medication) and The Medication had the opposite effect and The Person decided to commit suicide by overdosing on the rest of Their meds.
The Person didn't die.
The Person did commit suicide.
That's the most haunting thing about that ordeal. There's the word "Attempt" and that works for the people who wanted to do it and decided not to, but there's nothing, no word and no closure to describe what happened to That Person. They did it. They did it and They committed. They committed and the only thing that kept Them from dying was that Someone Else found Them and was able to get Them to a hospital before They died. There's a few words I can try to describe it, but it doesn't encompass the entirety of the ordeal. "Saved", "Rescued", hell "Lucky" works, but it's still not enough.
You might be asking yourself "Why the hell did you just say all that, when you pretty much explained your opinion without the depressing testimony?". Because an opinion doesn't mean anything unless there is credible evidence to back it up with. Without that evidence you're not just a stammering idiot who doesn't know what their talking about, you are a liar. In the episode Gabe and Tycho gave a testimony, they gave credible evidence (which was included in testimony) and I respect that, and I don't see what part of respect includes lying.
It's just that the video made a positive light of something that has an extremely negative side to it and that side was not presented. I'm happy that their situation turned out well and I hope that their course of meds keeps it's positive stride with them.
I know that expecting people to honestly take notice of someone else's ordeal on the internet and actually care is like taking a piss in a rainstorm and expecting everyone to give a shit about it, but I don't care. I don't care that apparently "GABE AND TYCHO DO NOT READ THE FORUMS" or anything like that, this was something that needed to be said. That is all.
END POINTLESS MIND NUMBING INTRO.
I only recently discovered the Penny Arcade series because most of my lurking is done on GameTrailers and I just came across Episode 17 which chronicled Gabe and Tycho's ordeal with anxiety and how they dealt with by using prescription meds. I appreciate their openness with the subject and I respect for them for talking about it in general. Psychological issues aren't something to be ashamed of and need attention because their problems you just don't ignore and the more people there are who are willing to talk about it, the more people will get the help that they need.
What they failed to mention is that medication is not a silver bullet and their success is a mere minority among the people who have been diagnosed with depression and anxiety. Now, what I got from the video is simply this; "We both had/have an issue. It's an interesting topic and we both went out on limb and decided take the problem on with medication and it worked" I know that at no point did they both come out and say "Pills cure all your problems", But to somebody watching the video, this might actually hit home with them and they might actually go out and try it simply on a whim, thinking that all their problems end with one pill.
Psychological problems (most of them) are tackled and should be tackled with therapy first, and if the problem persists, then and ONLY then should medication be considered. I'm going to use a real-life example and I'll be doing this without using the persons name, not because I'm being a hypocrite and now all of a sudden I'm hesitant about talking about psychological issues, but because this is a person whom I care very much about and I know they wouldn't like it if I spread their name all over a forum, so there's going to be a lot of "This Person, That Person" wordplay going on, so try to hang on.
And no, I'm not using anonymity to talk about myself in third person.
This Person has a few diagnosed psychological problems and had recently went through a break up. The Other Partner in question's reason decided it was okay to tell an Already Clinically Depressed Person that They didn't enjoy the relationship because "They were going to end Their own life if They had to be around Somebody so depressed one more day". The Dumped Person got (more)depressed and wanted to get over it, because the depression was getting in the way of Their finals. They went for An Unadvised Prescription (Unadvised because it was not prescribed by Their therapist and no psychological assessment was done in the "perscribing" of This Medication) and The Medication had the opposite effect and The Person decided to commit suicide by overdosing on the rest of Their meds.
The Person didn't die.
The Person did commit suicide.
That's the most haunting thing about that ordeal. There's the word "Attempt" and that works for the people who wanted to do it and decided not to, but there's nothing, no word and no closure to describe what happened to That Person. They did it. They did it and They committed. They committed and the only thing that kept Them from dying was that Someone Else found Them and was able to get Them to a hospital before They died. There's a few words I can try to describe it, but it doesn't encompass the entirety of the ordeal. "Saved", "Rescued", hell "Lucky" works, but it's still not enough.
You might be asking yourself "Why the hell did you just say all that, when you pretty much explained your opinion without the depressing testimony?". Because an opinion doesn't mean anything unless there is credible evidence to back it up with. Without that evidence you're not just a stammering idiot who doesn't know what their talking about, you are a liar. In the episode Gabe and Tycho gave a testimony, they gave credible evidence (which was included in testimony) and I respect that, and I don't see what part of respect includes lying.
It's just that the video made a positive light of something that has an extremely negative side to it and that side was not presented. I'm happy that their situation turned out well and I hope that their course of meds keeps it's positive stride with them.
I know that expecting people to honestly take notice of someone else's ordeal on the internet and actually care is like taking a piss in a rainstorm and expecting everyone to give a shit about it, but I don't care. I don't care that apparently "GABE AND TYCHO DO NOT READ THE FORUMS" or anything like that, this was something that needed to be said. That is all.
Inebriated_Pixels on
0
Posts
what part of "wild wild west" makes it a flytrap for new people with something to say
I think this is a fair place to have a discussion about prescription medication.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
I assume because it seems like an easier place to just vent on whatever.
please don't be dicks
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
Pills suck, all that anyone needs to do is watch a commercial and feel sorry for your insides when they list off the side effects. I don't think that people want pills so much as they want their problems to instantly go away.
either that or D&D
but quite frankly SE++ is probably a better place to make a statement
On the black screen
There are also a number of forumers both specific to this subforum and surely the message boards at large that are or have dealt with these issues, so you aren't really brining anything new to the table.
It sucks that you've had to deal with these troubles in your life, and unfortunately we regs have seen our share of tragedy, but one of the best things about this place is it's a generally positive community full of people willing to support and help one another.
If you need somebody to talk to about it, shoot me a PM.
3DS: 5241-1953-7031
In fact I think Tycho said something along the lines of, if someone sees this with a psychological issue and decides to see an expert on the subject then I will be very glad.
He didn't say, I hope people take drugs and get fucked up and then throw up the horns or something.
Alt post: Have you tried cheering up?
Satans..... hints.....
This all sounds hellof suspect.
I remember reading recently that by far the most often prescribed treatment for depression and anxiety was change in diet and increased exercise
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
So glad that didn't happen.
I am pretty sure attempted suicide covers attempts that are involuntarily thwarted
On the black screen
Your mom should probably be seeing a different doctor.
My therapist is literally prescribing me college to get over my depression.
Doesn't have to always be medication.
Technically it's only a partial lie
Tycho does not read the forums
Sheri Baldwin Photography | Facebook | Twitter | Etsy Shop | BUY ME STUFF (updated for 2014!)
But it is also a key component to therapy, and most people wouldn't get better just by talking about their problems.
You're a partial lie!
(hey I am gonna be in Orlando for reals this time Aug 17-20)
Mine prepscribed a divorce (and behavioral therapy)
It worked!
But then you get clients who WANT drugs because they don't perceive that changes in their lifestyle will improve their situation (whether out of laziness or lack of guidance or even BAD guidance)... in which case they might shop around for doctors who will give them what they want rather than what is best for them.
Not uncommon in this day and age when partial information on medication is so available and prevalent, or when commercials for prescription drugs are so visible on TV. Put all the disclaimers you want on it, someone's who's got issues of any kind is not going to read them.
It is analogous to wanting to get a gastric bypass because you think it's too hard to do the work.
It's just, if your environment is so shitty that you need psychiatric help, but you just wanna take pills, you'll be taking pills for the rest of your life and life is so much better than this.
JordynNolz.com <- All my blogs (Shepard, Wasted, J'onn, DCAU) are here now!
JordynNolz.com <- All my blogs (Shepard, Wasted, J'onn, DCAU) are here now!
pills, if prescribed, are MEANT to be paired with therapy... they are intended (for the most part) to bring you to a point where you are able to reduce the more disruptive "side effects" of your issue during the day-to-day that prevent you from functioning... as well as during therapy
it depends on the practitioner as well as the issue, where some would like you to be on meds while you are in session so that you can speak and interpret coherently.... but others may actually encourage you to be off them in specific sessions
either way, a prescribed drug is not a solution, it is in interim fix while a more permanent solution is formulated and then implemented
One medication I was on just made me nauseous for like 6 months. I should have switch off of it sooner