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[Megaten / Persona Discussion] Devil Survivor 2 hits the DS, surprising... everyone.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    It didn't sound like he was saying Catherine, I thought it was something in Japanese. I could be wrong though.

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  • Chrono HelixChrono Helix Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Very definitely saying Catherine, just in a Japanese way.

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  • XiaNaphryzXiaNaphryz Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Spotted on GAF:
    duckroll wrote:
    http://www.index-hd.com/press/?p=1002

    Index Holdings, the current parent company of Atlus Japan, has decided to merge both Index (the mobile development division of Index Holdings) and Atlus (the Japanese game developer) into Index Holdings itself. Today they plan on having the meeting to approve the merger with the board of directors. The merger is planned to happen officially on 1st October 2010.

    Basically what this means is that Atlus as a registered company will cease to exist, and it will be known in future as Index Holdings. It is currently unknown if they will keep the Atlus brand for use on games developed by the company, but technically nothing should change in terms of day-to-day business. The reasons given for the merger are to strengthen the overall management of the companies and to strengthen the value of the companies involved (by centralizing them into a single entity.
    So the company is no longer named Atlus - hopefully they at least keep the name around for branding.

    Not sure how this affects Atlus USA.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'm pretty sure, though not 100%, that Atlus Japan and Atlus USA are wholly different companies, so it shouldn't have any effect on them.

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  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Alas, poor Atlus! I knew them...

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  • XiaNaphryzXiaNaphryz Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Blackjack wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure, though not 100%, that Atlus Japan and Atlus USA are wholly different companies, so it shouldn't have any effect on them.
    Isn't Atlus USA a subsidiary of Atlas Japan?

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'm sure they'll keep it as Atlus here. "Index Holdings" doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    XiaNaphryz wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure, though not 100%, that Atlus Japan and Atlus USA are wholly different companies, so it shouldn't have any effect on them.
    Isn't Atlus USA a subsidiary of Atlas Japan?

    Yes. Atlus USA is a subsidiarity, and the main reason Atlus' last fiscal year was so good (Demon's Souls "surprise" hit ho!).

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    It's common business sense to stick with brand recognition.
    I doubt it'll change much.

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  • MaouMaou Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Index Atlus.

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    It's common business sense to stick with brand recognition.
    I doubt it'll change much.

    I agree, there's likely to be no real change at all, on our end - Index bought its majority share in 2007. It's not like Atlus did a 180 and started making kart racers and first person shooters back then. I expect Atlus will be the same super-awesome engine of swanky Japanese games it's always been.

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  • IceBurnerIceBurner It's cold and there are penguins.Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I just found this hilarious P3 parody strip. I don't know who it's by, unfortunately. Contains major spoilers for P3:

    Ever wondered what a Persona 3 Maximum Douchebag Playthrough would be like?

    Best part is that most of what's depicted is based directly on an in-game option.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Oh man that's great.

    And it reminds me when the hell is hiimdaisy going to continue her Persona 4 comic.

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    God bless Hiimdaisy.

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  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I've been keeping up with this thread for a while--just got around to all the Hiimdaisy comics. Now I'm going to have to play Persona 3 and 4. God, see what you've all done to me?!

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I've been keeping up with this thread for a while--just got around to all the Hiimdaisy comics. Now I'm going to have to play Persona 3 and 4. God, see what you've all done to me?!

    A large favour?

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  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Huge, man. Like, really freaking big. My bank account is complaining loudly, but I just don't care.

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  • an_altan_alt Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    On the upside, P3 and P4 take long enough to play that you can save up for one while playing the other...

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  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Yeah, I'm playing Nocturne right now if you want to talk about length. I'm, what--140, 150 hours in? Still just getting to the part where I can go to the Amala/Amara Temples, chase after Hijiri when Isamu pulls him into the network, or head over to Kabakuchi (spelling?) Prison to take on the Ja-Ack Frost or whatever he's called. Granted, I'm level 80, so I've spent some time grinding and fusing, but still.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    yeeesh you sure have

    I was in the late sixties when I finished

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  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Gotta fuse 'em all!

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    150 hours?
    I think my final save was 50-something, and that was with my level being somewhere around 80 and getting the True Demon ending.

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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Chance wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    It's common business sense to stick with brand recognition.
    I doubt it'll change much.

    I agree, there's likely to be no real change at all, on our end - Index bought its majority share in 2007. It's not like Atlus did a 180 and started making kart racers and first person shooters back then. I expect Atlus will be the same super-awesome engine of swanky Japanese games it's always been.

    I think the most that may happen is that we'll get a post or two from Bursar complaining about new branded office stationary.

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  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I've probably left it on for an hour or three here and there, now that I think about it. I'm willing to bet that 120 hours of that are real play time. What can I say, I'm just slow with these things.

    EDIT: Now that I'm thinking about it, should I be getting Holy Wrath in place of either Divine Shot or Deathbound? Seems like those are doing really well for me, so far. Freikugel (spelling?) is going to replace Divine Shot when I can get it, but for the time being I'm really digging it. Iron Claw was too inaccurate for my tastes. And is Megido/-dola/-dolaon worth putting on the MC? He's mostly physical at this point, but I feel like he should be a little more diversified and those are pretty universally damaging.

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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Yeah, I'm playing Nocturne right now if you want to talk about length. I'm, what--140, 150 hours in? Still just getting to the part where I can go to the Amala/Amara Temples, chase after Hijiri when Isamu pulls him into the network, or head over to Kabakuchi (spelling?) Prison to take on the Ja-Ack Frost or whatever he's called. Granted, I'm level 80, so I've spent some time grinding and fusing, but still.

    Why the hell would you grind to level 80 when you haven't even made it to the final dungeon? That's a waste of time. lol

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I've probably left it on for an hour or three here and there, now that I think about it. I'm willing to bet that 120 hours of that are real play time. What can I say, I'm just slow with these things.

    EDIT: Now that I'm thinking about it, should I be getting Holy Wrath in place of either Divine Shot or Deathbound? Seems like those are doing really well for me, so far. Freikugel (spelling?) is going to replace Divine Shot when I can get it, but for the time being I'm really digging it. Iron Claw was too inaccurate for my tastes. And is Megido/-dola/-dolaon worth putting on the MC? He's mostly physical at this point, but I feel like he should be a little more diversified and those are pretty universally damaging.
    almighty is generally terribad

    (except Death Flies and Freikugel)

    Tornado or Bolt Storm, if you want a back-up magic skill

    Deathbound is great, keep it

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Kind of funny how quick people were to claim this merger was the end of Atlus.

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  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Yeah, I'm playing Nocturne right now if you want to talk about length. I'm, what--140, 150 hours in? Still just getting to the part where I can go to the Amala/Amara Temples, chase after Hijiri when Isamu pulls him into the network, or head over to Kabakuchi (spelling?) Prison to take on the Ja-Ack Frost or whatever he's called. Granted, I'm level 80, so I've spent some time grinding and fusing, but still.

    Why the hell would you grind to level 80 when you haven't even made it to the final dungeon? That's a waste of time. lol

    I wanted my Seraphs early. :P

    Besides, from what I've seen, Yoyogi is a great place to grind, even end-game. Plus, I like the feeling that my grinding has served a greater purpose than end-game side quests.

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  • an_altan_alt Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Wow, I thought taking 80 hours to the end of the True Demon dungeon was going slow, even though a bunch of that was fusing and getting cash for fusing.

    I might have put 150 hours into P3, but I remember getting home from work with the game still running at least once...

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    Pony wrote:
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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Yeah, I'm playing Nocturne right now if you want to talk about length. I'm, what--140, 150 hours in? Still just getting to the part where I can go to the Amala/Amara Temples, chase after Hijiri when Isamu pulls him into the network, or head over to Kabakuchi (spelling?) Prison to take on the Ja-Ack Frost or whatever he's called. Granted, I'm level 80, so I've spent some time grinding and fusing, but still.

    Why the hell would you grind to level 80 when you haven't even made it to the final dungeon? That's a waste of time. lol

    I wanted my Seraphs early. :P

    Besides, from what I've seen, Yoyogi is a great place to grind, even end-game. Plus, I like the feeling that my grinding has served a greater purpose than end-game side quests.

    Yoyogi is fine, but the final dungeon's third section is much better.

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  • MattakuevanMattakuevan Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Kind of funny how quick people were to claim this merger was the end of Atlus.

    It's ok, they just don't like reading or comprehension.

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  • an_altan_alt Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    In all fairness, it's not like Atlus could get any better. Any changes would only be for the worse.

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    Pony wrote:
    I think that the internet has been for years on the path to creating what is essentially an electronic Necronomicon: A collection of blasphemous unrealities so perverse that to even glimpse at its contents, if but for a moment, is to irrevocably forfeit a portion of your sanity.
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  • MattakuevanMattakuevan Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    That is true, what we'll most likely see is localization becoming slower because they'll have to convince Index that we, the fans, actually exist.

    Other than that I don't forsee much of a change.

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  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Something that's been bugging me--how the hell do people get thousands of macca from the tunnels in the Amala Network? I've managed to locate a purple coin here and there, but I get hit with so many other obstacles in the process it's really kind of an even trade. Most money I've exited a tunnel with was about 400-something, and that's after trying to do it for a half an hour or so. Maybe there just isn't that much to be had in the transition from kalpa 1 to 2?

    I can't even find the answer on GameFAQs, and I've been in the forums and everything. Could be I just need to look harder. I did find posts by CJ there, however. :mrgreen:

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    an_alt wrote: »
    In all fairness, it's not like Atlus could get any better.
    A European branch would be nice. Importing is getting kind of annoying.

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  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Something that's been bugging me--how the hell do people get thousands of macca from the tunnels in the Amala Network? I've managed to locate a purple coin here and there, but I get hit with so many other obstacles in the process it's really kind of an even trade. Most money I've exited a tunnel with was about 400-something, and that's after trying to do it for a half an hour or so. Maybe there just isn't that much to be had in the transition from kalpa 1 to 2?

    I can't even find the answer on GameFAQs, and I've been in the forums and everything. Could be I just need to look harder. I did find posts by CJ there, however. :mrgreen:
    Not that I know the answer, but believe it or not, CJ visits pretty much all the same sites as I do. I shit you not, it's almost like I'm stalking him, minus the creepy obsession that generally comes with actual stalking. Of course, he doesn't know who I am outside of PAF. :P
    Xagarath wrote: »
    An Australian branch would be nice. Importing is getting kind of annoying.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I can access GameFAQs from work, so that's the only reason I post there. :P


    It passes the time, but I can only tolerate the stupid for spurts here and there.

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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Something that's been bugging me--how the hell do people get thousands of macca from the tunnels in the Amala Network? I've managed to locate a purple coin here and there, but I get hit with so many other obstacles in the process it's really kind of an even trade. Most money I've exited a tunnel with was about 400-something, and that's after trying to do it for a half an hour or so. Maybe there just isn't that much to be had in the transition from kalpa 1 to 2?

    I can't even find the answer on GameFAQs, and I've been in the forums and everything. Could be I just need to look harder. I did find posts by CJ there, however. :mrgreen:

    1. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO_Pf8MNbZM
    2. Memorize it
    3. ????
    4. Profit!

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Helps if you have a demon with Victory Cry and Mediarahan waiting to heal you, because it will take a lot of time and pain to get down.

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  • Zephyr_FateZephyr_Fate Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Helps if you have a demon with Victory Cry and Mediarahan waiting to heal you, because it will take a lot of time and pain to get down.

    True, but once you get there you can just repeat it ad infinitum since the Warp Tunnels can never, ever kill you even if you hit a bunch of shit on the way down.

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