Wait like, if I flip the toggle that de-allies me with an ally, I can get banned?
That's some bullshit right there. Not that I ever would really, but are teams locked down in league matches? Can you even do that or do you have to manually attack everything?
Wait like, if I flip the toggle that de-allies me with an ally, I can get banned?
That's some bullshit right there. Not that I ever would really, but are teams locked down in league matches? Can you even do that or do you have to manually attack everything?
Pretty sure you have to manually attack.
But like I said, it wasn't a league game. Getting banned would be kind of silly. It would also suck as he was playing on my other friend's account.
I can't believe you guys are trying to have a conversation with random internet stranger #1247. They are all like that, which makes victory taste only so much sweeter.
I really doubt blizzard would ban you for team attacking in a 3v3, the guy in that article just merely says they have the power to if they so desire.
Blizzard staffer Datth: "Bans are license specific unless it's from bad accesses to a Battle.net account. We can lock down a Battle.net account when it happens but if you do something goofy in a game (like Backstabbing, poor Mugaro), we can apply temporary or permanent bans on just the game itself depending on severity.
He is saying bans can occur, and he gives backstabbing as an example. No one is saying it will happen because you did it once, I am just saying it is a bannable offense.
I really doubt blizzard would ban you for team attacking in a 3v3, the guy in that article just merely says they have the power to if they so desire.
Blizzard staffer Datth: "Bans are license specific unless it's from bad accesses to a Battle.net account. We can lock down a Battle.net account when it happens but if you do something goofy in a game (like Backstabbing, poor Mugaro), we can apply temporary or permanent bans on just the game itself depending on severity.
He is saying bans can occur, and he gives backstabbing as an example. No one is saying it will happen because you did it once, I am just saying it is a bannable offense.
And it is. Read the quote.
I read the quote, it says they can, not they will. It also says depending on the severity of the offense. Also I think it is completely retarded that they would ban you for backstabbing. I mean seriously its a video game. Let people do what they want as long as they arent hacking the game.
You think Bliz is going to bother watching a bunch of replays and handing out bans based on gameplay? Right. "He attacked me ban him!" "He walled us in with pylons, I kinda needed to get out of the base."
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edited August 2010
Yes, grief to your hearts content, as long as you aren't hacking the game.
Give me a break. For as long as I can remember, there are rules and policies in every online game that outline proper behaviour in said game. Yes, it's a video game, but you're playing with other people. When your idea of fun encroaches on someone else's, that's a problem.
You think Bliz is going to bother watching a bunch of replays and handing out bans based on gameplay? Right. "He attacked me ban him!" "He walled us in with pylons, I kinda needed to get out of the base."
You don't? Have you never played an online game before?
I will throw you on the land and hurl you on the open field. I will let all the birds of the air settle on you and all the beasts of the earth gorge themselves on you. I will spread your flesh on the mountains and fill the valleys with your remains. I will drench the land with your flowing blood all the way to the mountains, and the ravines will be filled with your flesh. - Ezekiel 32: 4-6
Yes, grief to your hearts content, as long as you aren't hacking the game.
Give me a break. For as long as I can remember, there are rules and policies in every online game that outline proper behaviour in said game. Yes, it's a video game, but you're playing with other people. When your idea of fun encroaches on someone else's, that's a problem.
As long as I can remember people have been griefing in every multiplayer game since the beginning of time and will continue to do so, get over it man.
Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is starcraft. There are rules.
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So what have my fellow Terran players been doing to beat Protoss these days. That matchup is the one that gives me the most fits, as a matter of fact, I think id lost my last 4 matchups to protoss players. I normally go MarineMedivacGhost but recently the fast Colossus is making my life miserable. Tips?
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Fondor_YardsElite Four Member: HydraRegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
Just because people can and will do it doesn't mean you should have to put up with it.
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So what have my fellow Terran players been doing to beat Protoss these days. That matchup is the one that gives me the most fits, as a matter of fact, I think id lost my last 4 matchups to protoss players. I normally go MarineMedivacGhost but recently the fast Colossus is making my life miserable. Tips?
I would say throw some more marauders in the mix, also vikings are good at taking out Collosi (I am not terran btw I just watch shitloads of replays)
Backstabbing... that's pretty funny... Back in 1999, when you were in grade 7.
exactly, there are 7th graders playing this game now, do you really think blizzard should ban them because of some childish antics?
Maybe not ban, but suspend them for a few hours/days if the action is continual. Hopefully that would discourage that behavior, but an all out ban is simply a bad idea.
<Blizzard Employee #1> Hey this guy just got reported for backstabbing. Want to check it out?
<Blizzard Employee #2> Sure.
<Both> *watch replay*
<Blizzard Employee #1> Haha.
<Blizzard Employee #2> Oh man that asshole had it coming.
<Blizzard Employee #1> Want to go swim in the money pool?
<Blizzard Employee #2> Sure.
<Blizzard Employee #1> Hey this guy just got reported for backstabbing. Want to check it out?
<Blizzard Employee #2> Sure.
<Both> *watch replay*
<Blizzard Employee #1> Haha.
<Blizzard Employee #2> Oh man that asshole had it coming.
<Blizzard Employee #1> Want to go swim in the money pool?
<Blizzard Employee #2> Sure.
So what have my fellow Terran players been doing to beat Protoss these days. That matchup is the one that gives me the most fits, as a matter of fact, I think id lost my last 4 matchups to protoss players. I normally go MarineMedivacGhost but recently the fast Colossus is making my life miserable. Tips?
I suppose I will go for an early double gas then to get a greater number of marauders in my force along with getting a couple of ghosts. I guess unless I scout a Stargate, Marine numbers can be kept to a minimum.
I suppose I will go for an early double gas then to get a greater number of marauders in my force along with getting a couple of ghosts. I guess unless I scout a Stargate, Marine numbers can be kept to a minimum.
plus marauders do good damage to stalkers, and are great against zealots without charge
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AegisFear My DanceOvershot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
You just need to get your 2nd gas when your orbital is building to more than afford marines, 1 ghost, and a few marauders early game. Marauders hardly cost any gas.
You just need to get your 2nd gas when your orbital is building to more than afford marines, 1 ghost, and a few marauders early game. Marauders hardly cost any gas.
Should I push out before I get my first Medivac or hold off? Im thinking push before just because I don't want the 'Toss army to reach critical mass while I am putzing around in my base.
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FiggyFighter of the night manChampion of the sunRegistered Userregular
edited August 2010
It's not like Blizzard has an entire department of employees whose job it is to monitor the behaviour of people playing an online game and punish those who act out of line.
Oh wait. World of Warcraft.
You're right, it's logistically impossible to punish/deter griefing in an online game.
Except they do it in WoW with over 10 million subscribers.
It's not like Blizzard has an entire department of employees whose job it is to monitor the behaviour of people playing an online game and punish those who act out of line.
Oh wait. World of Warcraft.
You're right, it's logistically impossible to punish/deter griefing in an online game.
Except they do it in WoW with over 10 million subscribers.
You know gold selling is supposed to be a no-no right? And yet...
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You just need to get your 2nd gas when your orbital is building to more than afford marines, 1 ghost, and a few marauders early game. Marauders hardly cost any gas.
Should I push out before I get my first Medivac or hold off? Im thinking push before just because I don't want the 'Toss army to reach critical mass while I am putzing around in my base.
Your build seems different than the one I do (I like Silver's opening)
I push out with 10-11 marines, 1 ghost, and 1-2 marauders. If the protoss is building units and micros well (namely, spreads out his units), he can hold this off but you kill a good portion of his army. If the protoss is teching or doing things like going straight to void rays, he's in trouble.
It's not like Blizzard has an entire department of employees whose job it is to monitor the behaviour of people playing an online game and punish those who act out of line.
Oh wait. World of Warcraft.
You're right, it's logistically impossible to punish/deter griefing in an online game.
Except they do it in WoW with over 10 million subscribers.
Someone must've not notified the constant stream of people in randoms who actively try to fuck your group by pulling extras onto tanks they don't like.
Also, there are currently ~41000 games of Starcraft 2 being played AT THIS MOMENT. Assuming 1 out of 100 gets reported for some kind of griefing (some would say that's a gross underestimate), that's 410 problematic games. Every half hour or so.
And if that number goes up to 2 out of every 100? That's DOUBLE that number.
Seriously the logistics are ridiculous. Only the most DIRE offenders with many reports on them will get flagged so that Blizzard doesn't have to deal with situations like someone getting reported just because they beat their opponent and got called a hacker.
It's not like Blizzard has an entire department of employees whose job it is to monitor the behaviour of people playing an online game and punish those who act out of line.
Oh wait. World of Warcraft.
You're right, it's logistically impossible to punish/deter griefing in an online game.
Except they do it in WoW with over 10 million subscribers.
You know gold selling is supposed to be a no-no right? And yet...
And yet what? You are completely ignorant here. Yes, gold selling is still common but only because there are so many farmer accounts. They are continually banned. The accounts of people who buy the gold are often banned as well.
It's not like Blizzard has an entire department of employees whose job it is to monitor the behaviour of people playing an online game and punish those who act out of line.
Oh wait. World of Warcraft.
You're right, it's logistically impossible to punish/deter griefing in an online game.
Except they do it in WoW with over 10 million subscribers.
Someone must've not notified the constant stream of people in randoms who actively try to fuck your group by pulling extras onto tanks they don't like.
Also, there are currently ~41000 games of Starcraft 2 being played AT THIS MOMENT. Assuming 1 out of 100 gets reported for some kind of griefing (some would say that's a gross underestimate), that's 410 problematic games. Every half hour or so.
And if that number goes up to 2 out of every 100? That's DOUBLE that number.
Seriously the logistics are ridiculous. Only the most DIRE offenders with many reports on them will get flagged so that Blizzard doesn't have to deal with situations like someone getting reported just because they beat their opponent and got called a hacker.
There are millions of people playing WoW every minute of every day, and yet there is still a force of employees who is able to handle enforcement.
Like any reporting tool, it's repeat offenders that will be reviewed. Having one person report you for backstabbing isn't going to do much, but if you do it often and they see several reports for one account, that's when they look.
Like I said, doing something stupid once isn't going to matter, but it's naive to think that because there are so many people playing the game that griefing/trolling is going to go unpunished. If you read the Starcraft 2 B.net policy for infractions, it specifically lays out all of the punishments, from warnings to flat out account closure.
I don't think it's unreasonable to imagine that if you are a repeat offender you're going to find yourself with warnings/24 hour suspensions/etc.
I think what everyone is getting at Figgy is that if you report someone for backstabbing you in a 3v3, don't expect much of a response
They can, and their EULA says they can do a lot of things, but they probably won't :I
Right. You should really never expect a response anyway. I'm just saying it's a reportable offense, like any other. If I reported you for a few racial slurs in a game, you'd probably never see any action either.
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That's some bullshit right there. Not that I ever would really, but are teams locked down in league matches? Can you even do that or do you have to manually attack everything?
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Pretty sure you have to manually attack.
But like I said, it wasn't a league game. Getting banned would be kind of silly. It would also suck as he was playing on my other friend's account.
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I can't believe you guys are trying to have a conversation with random internet stranger #1247. They are all like that, which makes victory taste only so much sweeter.
War doesn't follow rules.
He is saying bans can occur, and he gives backstabbing as an example. No one is saying it will happen because you did it once, I am just saying it is a bannable offense.
And it is. Read the quote.
I read the quote, it says they can, not they will. It also says depending on the severity of the offense. Also I think it is completely retarded that they would ban you for backstabbing. I mean seriously its a video game. Let people do what they want as long as they arent hacking the game.
Give me a break. For as long as I can remember, there are rules and policies in every online game that outline proper behaviour in said game. Yes, it's a video game, but you're playing with other people. When your idea of fun encroaches on someone else's, that's a problem.
You don't? Have you never played an online game before?
You guys are naive as fuck.
As long as I can remember people have been griefing in every multiplayer game since the beginning of time and will continue to do so, get over it man.
You are some naive morons. Good day.
*tips hat and walks out of thread*
Cause i'm pretty sure Blizzard had the ability to ban people for backstabbing in SC1. Only, they never did.
exactly, there are 7th graders playing this game now, do you really think blizzard should ban them because of some childish antics?
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I would say throw some more marauders in the mix, also vikings are good at taking out Collosi (I am not terran btw I just watch shitloads of replays)
Maybe not ban, but suspend them for a few hours/days if the action is continual. Hopefully that would discourage that behavior, but an all out ban is simply a bad idea.
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<Both> *watch replay*
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Like custom maps,
oh wait...
Needs more marauders, yea.
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plus marauders do good damage to stalkers, and are great against zealots without charge
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Doesn't the game automatically backup your most recent like 10-15 game's replays?
Although I guess if you guys played way more than that afterward it's totally lost.
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Should I push out before I get my first Medivac or hold off? Im thinking push before just because I don't want the 'Toss army to reach critical mass while I am putzing around in my base.
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Oh wait. World of Warcraft.
You're right, it's logistically impossible to punish/deter griefing in an online game.
Except they do it in WoW with over 10 million subscribers.
You know gold selling is supposed to be a no-no right? And yet...
Your build seems different than the one I do (I like Silver's opening)
I push out with 10-11 marines, 1 ghost, and 1-2 marauders. If the protoss is building units and micros well (namely, spreads out his units), he can hold this off but you kill a good portion of his army. If the protoss is teching or doing things like going straight to void rays, he's in trouble.
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Someone must've not notified the constant stream of people in randoms who actively try to fuck your group by pulling extras onto tanks they don't like.
Also, there are currently ~41000 games of Starcraft 2 being played AT THIS MOMENT. Assuming 1 out of 100 gets reported for some kind of griefing (some would say that's a gross underestimate), that's 410 problematic games. Every half hour or so.
And if that number goes up to 2 out of every 100? That's DOUBLE that number.
Seriously the logistics are ridiculous. Only the most DIRE offenders with many reports on them will get flagged so that Blizzard doesn't have to deal with situations like someone getting reported just because they beat their opponent and got called a hacker.
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And yet what? You are completely ignorant here. Yes, gold selling is still common but only because there are so many farmer accounts. They are continually banned. The accounts of people who buy the gold are often banned as well.
Also his TvP owned. Play defensively everyday andre!!!
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There are millions of people playing WoW every minute of every day, and yet there is still a force of employees who is able to handle enforcement.
Like any reporting tool, it's repeat offenders that will be reviewed. Having one person report you for backstabbing isn't going to do much, but if you do it often and they see several reports for one account, that's when they look.
Like I said, doing something stupid once isn't going to matter, but it's naive to think that because there are so many people playing the game that griefing/trolling is going to go unpunished. If you read the Starcraft 2 B.net policy for infractions, it specifically lays out all of the punishments, from warnings to flat out account closure.
I don't think it's unreasonable to imagine that if you are a repeat offender you're going to find yourself with warnings/24 hour suspensions/etc.
They can, and their EULA says they can do a lot of things, but they probably won't :I
Right. You should really never expect a response anyway. I'm just saying it's a reportable offense, like any other. If I reported you for a few racial slurs in a game, you'd probably never see any action either.