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[SIX FEET UNDER] Ironically being resurrected

joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class TraitorSmoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
edited December 2021 in Debate and/or Discourse
There's a hole in my week where Dexter was last year. In an attempt to fill it, I went to the last thing Michael C. Hall did in the hopes that it would be good. And wouldn't you know, it is fantastic.
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Six Feet Under is the story of Fisher and Sons, a funeral home run by Nathaniel Sam Fisher (heh, Sam Fisher) Sr.
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Until, that is, he is killed at the very beginning of the first episode just before his kids come back home for Thanksgiving. No, that's not right. The show is about Ruth Fisher:
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A control-freak mom who wears drab clothes, hates vulgar language and wants to just pretend that people's serious problems don't exist. No, wait, she's boring. The show is really about David Fisher and the love of his life, Keith:
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David is the religious gay son of Nathaniel Fisher Sr. who takes over half of the business after his father's death. Still coming to grips with his homosexuality, he's possibly one of the greatest gay characters I've ever seen on the small screen. But as interesting as he is, he doesn't have top billing. No, that goes to Nathaniel Fisher Jr.:
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Basically the everyman of this show. Nice guy, escaped the funeral business when he was young and then gets sucked back into it after his father leaves him half the business upon his death. He has sex in almost every episode with Brenda:
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A super-scrutinized, high IQ woman who takes care of her problematic brother (not pictured). She has some serious issues.
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But while all this is going on, the real star of the show, Claire, is dealing with all kinds of drugs and messed-up shit at her high school because everyone knows what her family does and they call her shit like Morticia just to get a rise out of her. Her lousy love interest, Gabe, is a real loser and you will hate him from the very first time you see him on-screen.

Now ignore everything above this sentence. The only person you need concern yourself with in this show is Federico.
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Because he is fuckawesome.

I know this show is old, but it didn't have a thread and I think it deserves one. I'm still on Season 2 out of 5, and it's really really well done. At the very beginning of every episode, somebody dies. It really highlights how suddenly death can strike without warning. Some of the deaths are hilarious, too.

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If you're looking for a new show to get addicted to, you could do worse than this one. Just be prepared for lots and lots of sex and some violence; it's not a kid show. It's a little depressing at times but you'll get over it.

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  • RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I think the most touchingly sad death at the start of an episode was an old black couple. The husband wakes up and makes some light chit chat about morning stuff before noticing his wife hasn't responded, and then he's gently trying to get her to wake up as the screen fades to white. And then near the end of the episode, he passes away sitting by her coffin. It all just felt so dignified to me.

    It's been yonks since I watched this. Perhaps I should amend that.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I think the most touchingly sad death at the start of an episode was an old black couple. The husband wakes up and makes some light chit chat about morning stuff before noticing his wife hasn't responded, and then he's gently trying to get her to wake up as the screen fades to white. And then near the end of the episode, he passes away sitting by her coffin. It all just felt so dignified to me.

    It's been yonks since I watched this. Perhaps I should amend that.

    What does that guy say? True love is cleaning up after your spouse shits the bed?

    Great show.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Man, as a father of a son who is almost 5 and a daughter who is almost 2, the episodes with the
    6-year-old kid shooting himself and the baby who dies from SIDS

    were really tough to watch

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  • HalgwetHalgwet Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    While watching it I always felt Six Feet Under was a bit uneven. When it was good it was really good, but there were times when it felt like they had run out of stories for their characters and just kind of started retreading old ground or going off in weird directions. However, whenever I think back on the show now I just remember how great the ending was. Absolutely perfect for the show.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'm still on Season 2, we just finished watching the one
    with the older lady who chokes to death and has no friends or family to come to her funeral.

    So far it's all pretty uniformly great in my opinion. I've heard the quality drops slowly off towards the end and then spikes sharply up in the last few episodes.

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  • SkannerJATSkannerJAT Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    This show is amazing. My ex-girlfriend had the entire series and we had to take breaks from our little marathons from the emotional impact at times. Greatest series finale I have ever seen. Definitely a tear or two.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I thought the ending started out great, then dragged on and became a joke.

    But yes, the last few episodes were fantastic.

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'ma big fan of this show. certain things drag on but I think they stick to what makes the show good from beginning to end. watched the boxset maybe a year and a half ago now. I watched so much so fast that I got burned out and haven't looked at it again to say what eps are favorites or anything but I think it's a great series.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    The amazing thing about this show is how well Michael C. Hall is able to convince me that he is a dapper, gay funeral director

    And then he turns around and convinces me that no, he is a serial serial killer killer who doesn't feel feelings

    Like, I don't see an overlap of personality between either of them

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  • SkannerJATSkannerJAT Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Variable wrote: »
    I'ma big fan of this show. certain things drag on but I think they stick to what makes the show good from beginning to end. watched the boxset maybe a year and a half ago now. I watched so much so fast that I got burned out and haven't looked at it again to say what eps are favorites or anything but I think it's a great series.

    I had the same issue. It was my first time watching it and we would tear through four episodes at a time. Can be draining at times.

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  • MadpandaMadpanda suburbs west of chicagoRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I actually watched Six Feet under first and that lead me to Dexter. Michael C. Hall is great.

    Funniest episode was probably ruth on extacy. My favorite was a tie between the biker one and the gang member one.

    Most annoying subplot goes to
    Nates friend/baby momma going missing. I didn't like the character much so that story just grated on me.

    I had the same issue where I could only watch so many episodes in one sitting, its the same thing preventing me from marathoning Breaking Bad.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Madpanda wrote: »
    Most annoying subplot goes to
    Nates friend/baby momma going missing. I didn't like the character much so that story just grated on me.

    I actually liked that, though the conclusion came out of nowhere.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I love this show immensely, probably tied with The Wire for my all time favourite drama. And tied with Life on Mars for greatest ending, I damn near cry just hearing the music they used in the ending sequence.

    Now if only the seasons weren't so darn expensive here I'd watch them all again.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Madpanda wrote: »
    I actually watched Six Feet under first and that lead me to Dexter. Michael C. Hall is great.

    Funniest episode was probably ruth on extacy. My favorite was a tie between the biker one and the gang member one.

    Most annoying subplot goes to
    Nates friend/baby momma going missing. I didn't like the character much so that story just grated on me.

    I had the same issue where I could only watch so many episodes in one sitting, its the same thing preventing me from marathoning Breaking Bad.

    I actually liked Nate better on the "aspirin". He was funnier. There was a lot of wasted potential with Ruth since she went to sleep right afterward, I think.

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  • MadpandaMadpanda suburbs west of chicagoRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Madpanda wrote: »
    I actually watched Six Feet under first and that lead me to Dexter. Michael C. Hall is great.

    Funniest episode was probably ruth on extacy. My favorite was a tie between the biker one and the gang member one.

    Most annoying subplot goes to
    Nates friend/baby momma going missing. I didn't like the character much so that story just grated on me.

    I had the same issue where I could only watch so many episodes in one sitting, its the same thing preventing me from marathoning Breaking Bad.

    I actually liked Nate better on the "aspirin". He was funnier. There was a lot of wasted potential with Ruth since she went to sleep right afterward, I think.


    After tripping out and running around the woods seeing crap, yes.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Madpanda wrote: »
    Madpanda wrote: »
    I actually watched Six Feet under first and that lead me to Dexter. Michael C. Hall is great.

    Funniest episode was probably ruth on extacy. My favorite was a tie between the biker one and the gang member one.

    Most annoying subplot goes to
    Nates friend/baby momma going missing. I didn't like the character much so that story just grated on me.

    I had the same issue where I could only watch so many episodes in one sitting, its the same thing preventing me from marathoning Breaking Bad.

    I actually liked Nate better on the "aspirin". He was funnier. There was a lot of wasted potential with Ruth since she went to sleep right afterward, I think.


    After tripping out and running around the woods seeing crap, yes.

    Huh. Maybe I was watching that scene wrong, the weird hue around everything made it seem like she was dreaming to me.

    That's really my one complaint with this show is that it is very occasionally tough to tell when something is actually happening in real life or if it is being imagined.

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  • SkannerJATSkannerJAT Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Well that was the enjoyable part about the ghost of the father. Was he real or not? I believe one of the writers came out and said that he was not real. Just a tool utilized to vocalize the characters inner dialogue. I like to think he was real though.

    Either way, some things are left open for interpretation.

    The corpses talking was hilarious at times as well.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Also, Death is played by Dr. Kroeger from Monk very disturbingly

    Like, that was some fucked up shit, Nate

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  • mrdobalinamrdobalina Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Probably the best straight-up family drama ever put to film.

    And as noted more than once already: best series finale ever.

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  • EntriechEntriech ? ? ? ? ? Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I loved the entire run of this show. The only thing that sucks about it is how hard it is on all of its characters. By the third season, you knew that if something good was happening to someone, it was only that way so that the ensuing fall would be further and more painful. It is the only show where I started dreading the happy parts.

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  • AtomBombAtomBomb Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I watched this as it aired. Great show. If you like Dexter, you're in for a treat when
    Michael C. Hall gets to be on the other end of that dynamic.

    I don't know if treat is the right word.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I'm currently Netflixing my way through this show (midway through Season 3 now) and am enjoying it. I wouldn't put it on my top 10 TV show list but it is definitely better than a good chunk of what is on the air now. Or that was on the air ten years ago, for that matter.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Actually, the last 10 years or so of TV have been pretty incredible in terms of the small-screen narrative, even for non-premium channels (premium as in HBO and Showtime)

    But HBO and Showtime have no doubt contributed to that, especially with SFU and Dexter

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Actually, the last 10 years or so of TV have been pretty incredible in terms of the small-screen narrative, even for non-premium channels (premium as in HBO and Showtime)

    But HBO and Showtime have no doubt contributed to that, especially with SFU and Dexter

    There have been a lot of good shows and for serial shows there hasn't been a better decade, but they have almost all been overshadowed by reality TV crap and poor attempts to copy [strike]good[/strike] successful TV of the past and present.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Claire is the best thing about the show.


    Well, it's awesome all around; but especially Claire. Shame they didn't keep the black comedy theme in the first season going for very long. By Season 3, it's allll serious business.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    That sucks :(

    Federico has been tamed down a lot in the 2nd season too. He was by far the most entertaining part of the 1st season.

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  • ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Well, it's awesome all around; but especially Claire. Shame they didn't keep the black comedy theme in the first season going for very long. By Season 3, it's allll serious business.
    I think it had the dark humour throughout - it just became darker and less dominant, but it didn't leave the show altogether. I'm thinking for instance of the death at the beginning of "Ecotone", the S5 episode
    where Nate dies
    .

    Gotta love sudden death by cougar.

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  • MurphyMurphy Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    That sucks :(

    Federico has been tamed down a lot in the 2nd season too. He was by far the most entertaining part of the 1st season.

    By the end of the show I hated Rico. I don't mind the actor. I just really, really hated the character.

    Claire however? <3 forever. Also, Ruth.

    And weirdly, as much as I liked Nate at the start, I loathed him by the time of:
    his death

    And then I loved him again from then on out.

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  • mrdobalinamrdobalina Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    To me, Nate was the single most realistic character in a TV show ever. Not because everyone has a batshit crazy girlfriend and gay brother and so on, but that he always expressed the ebb and flow of emotions and frustrations that come in life. When it became clear that he
    was relieved when his baby mama died
    , I came to see that he represented the inner thoughts that people have -- especially because his emotions were in constant conflict with each other.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    It was a little frustrating how.. existential Nate could be. Consequences? Other People? They barely registered most of the time.

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  • mrdobalinamrdobalina Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    adytum wrote: »
    It was a little frustrating how.. existential Nate could be. Consequences? Other People? They barely registered most of the time.

    Aren't we all in some way? Granted, you and I might make decisions based on those people and consequences, but Nate was what I think we all are when we don't take those into account.

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  • ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    The last two scenes that (late) Nate has still break my heart: "You can't take a picture of this - it's already gone" and jogging Nate slowly vanishing from view in Claire's rear-view mirror.

    The second Six Feet Under album has some of my favourite ever songs, the Caesars' cover of "Don't Fear the Reaper", Sia's "Breathe Me" and The Arcade Fire's "Cold Wind". Especially the latter is such an amazingly beautiful, sad song.

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  • adytumadytum The Inevitable Rise And FallRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Lamb - Heaven <3

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    We watched the episode in Season 2 last night where
    Bren gives one of her clients a hand job

    After about a minute of her doing it my wife said, "Okay, when are they going to cut back to reality?"

    They didn't D:

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  • ThirithThirith Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Even at her worst in seasons 1 and 2, I always had a lot of sympathy for Brenda. There were moments in S5 where I could've strangled her, but the last 1-2 episodes brought her back to being one of my favourite characters (in terms of acting and writing) in all of TV. Rachel Griffiths rules.

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  • SkannerJATSkannerJAT Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    They wrote her pretty well. At first you love her, then despise her, then pity her.

    And I had the same experience with Rico. The actors in this series were tops. Loved Kathy Bates character.

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  • CheeselikerCheeseliker Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    This series is fuckawesome. my gf got me into it. I think for every character, there's a point where you love them and think they're awesome, and a point where you hate their fucking guts and think they're a terrible human being. It's amazing.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Haven't gotten there for Rico or Nate yet. I like heavily flawed characters so even when they're fucking up I'm still entertained.

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  • CommunistCowCommunistCow Abstract Metal ThingyRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I actually got a bit bored/tired towards the end of season 3. I heard somewhere in this forum that the end of the series was good so I netflixed the last disc of season 5 and it was pretty damn awesome.

    Was season 4 or 5 better than season 3?

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  • LucidLucid Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    One of my favorite scenes is (don't read this if you haven't finished it all)
    Nate's last 'dream' before death. David and him have sort of a shared experience. Nate enters, David leaves

    I also liked a lot of the subtle touches this show had that made it feel quite real. Little things like them laying around watching television, something most people do but you never see happen with people on other dramas.
    , I came to see that he represented the inner thoughts that people have -- especially because his emotions were in constant conflict with each other.
    Yeah, about Lisa;
    In the Six Feet Under: In Memoriam special, one of the writers explain that they wanted to develop that idea, that like a lot of people Nate secretly wanted her to go away. That scene where he has a dream and meets her on a beach, telling her that she was his chance at doing something right, with her replying that she's not a chance she's a person, followed by Nate waking up in total emotional turmoil, another great scene.

    I don't think the show really drags at any point. Every season had a few different themes and they all flowed together very well, especially connecting to the overall life and death concept. Season 3 in particular really worked well at getting the viewer to step into the same feelings Nate had about his life at the time.

    Thirith; I'm curious, what bothered you about Brenda in season 5? I thought she seemed pretty sympathetic in that season.

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