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..until I calculated shipping and it ended up being $20. The hell with that.
I'd take Stryker for the first go, see if they're up to speed on the game, and then hit them with an eHaley or perhaps Siege.
That being said, a Penny Arcade tournament would be pretty cool.
Fun fact on Vengers and Gravus: Horsedicks.
Waitaminute, weren't we on the new thread? Or did that get lost?
No, I'm saying that the [Mount] attack entry on their stat card is there for their ability to mount the enemy and kill them with the pewter cock and balls that they have been modeled with. You'd think it'd be a RNG 12 attack with Gunfighter and Powerful Charge, but I digress.
There was no new thread.
The was indeed, something to the effect of "electric swan boogaloo". Went up had like two posts and then the forums died. Which reminds me I had a question that I didn't get answered on that one.
Privateer press has all of their old mk1 books on sale for 5 bucks. I thought I might pick up any that contain worthwhile story fluff. Can anyone recommend ones that I should get?
They have:
Hordes:
-Evolution
-Metamorphosis
Iron Kingdoms:
-Witchfire trilogy
Warmachine:
-Escalation
-Legends
-Pirates of the Broken Coast
-Prime Remix
-Superiority
They also have the spiffy Lord Commander Stryker action figure down to 10 bucks for anybody who thought that it looked cool
Fun time in the game store yesterday, but too many losses
I ran:
eHaley
*Lancer
*Stornclad
*Squire
Full precursor Knights + UA
Gun Mages + UA
Rhupert
Either Gorman Die Wulfe, or Harlan Versh, depending on my opponent.
I played three games.
My first game was against a Montenebra list that my opponent was just trying out. It had
Montenebra
*Deathjack
*Nightmare
*Slayer
*Reaper
*Deryliss
2x Warwitch
He put spectral steel on the Deathjack, and ran it forward. The reaper was behind it, so I could see that he wanted me to charge it with my Stormclad and set myself up to get pulled in and killed by the reaper. allowing harlan versh to blow one of it's arms off second turn. I killed it with Harlan Versh and the PK's minifeat instead, then feated to buy another turn of attrition. He backed up, and I only managed to kill a warwitch and Deryliss, and knock the arms of the slayer my next turn. Then he feated, cast full throttle, sent nightmare ghostly, and bounced him off one flank of my precursor knights into my caster, and killed her.
Second game was against Karchev, running:
Karchev
*Spriggan
*Juggernaut
*Devastator
Widowmakers
The Great Bears
pEyriss
Manhunter
I ran my PKs onto a hill, cast deceleration and played dirge of mists, giving them a def of 18 against ranged attacks, moved everything else up behind them. He failed to do much damage with shooting. We had some confusion about whether a model with pathfinder could charge across a liner obstacle. The RAW seems to say no? Were we correct there? Anyway, I let him redeploy his manhunter slightly because of the confusion, so he charged Gorman, and killed him easily. He left enough focus on Karchev to bring him to armor 22. I charged him with my Stormclad, and did superficial damage to a few columns. Then I mini-feated with the PK's and failed the charge. I feated to try to stave off some of the retaliation. He still managed to kill the stormclad and engage my lancer with the bears. I managed to get a chage lane on karchev with a couple of PKs next turn, and failed to cripple any systems, but they did kill Eiryss. I conceded, since I didn't want to deal with the impending 3 turn slugfest as he killed my tough PK's while I failed to do enough damage.
Third game, against Baldur, he ran:
Baldur
*Megalith
*Wold Guardian
*Wold Watcher
Sentry Stone
Druids + UA
Blackclad Wayfarer
I took first turn. Ran everyone up, then slaughtered the Advanced deployed Druids with a time bomb and an arcane bolt, but they made their command check. He moved up, killed a Precursor Knight with the Wold Watcher, and dropped a lot of forests and clouds. I shot the remaining Druids with my gun mages, moved up a little with the PK's in shieldwall and under Deceleration. I didn't bother with the Wold Watcher, since it was in stoneform and under stoneskin. He charged my lancer with megalith and crippled it. I charged Baldur with a Temporal-Acceleration'd, bonded, 4 focus Stormclad and killed him.
Order of activation issues plagued me througout the night, but I've started to get a handle on them. I found myself wanting more in the way of heavy hitters a lot though.
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Everything but Prime Remix, basically. All of the expansion books are like Winnie the Pooh* but you'll find the Prime stuff in Mk2.
*Stuffed with fluff.
Pathfinder Advantage, Prime MKII pg. 34
"This model can advance through rough terrain without penalty and can charge and make slam and trample power attacks across obstacles."
As for hitting power in eHailey lists, I find that taking out their Stormclad reduces the potential for greater damage output greatly. In your shoes, I would take a backup heavy so that you aren't completely reliant on the Precursor Knights mini feat to crack armor.
Thanks for the rules clarification. Knowing that might have saved me vs Montenebra as well, since I could have charged the reaper with the PKs under Rhupert's marching song, instead of shieldwalling.
Where would you fit the backup heavy in? I could drop the Gun Mages down to the b13 and drop both solos to free up 8 points, but that drops my troubleshooting options down to "hit it with a stick, then hit it again."
Honestly, I think I should have used the feat turn to set up a better assassination run instead. I could have moved my PKs into easy charge range of Karchev, sent the stormclad after the bears instead and dropped a time bomb on Karchev. He'd have been almost stuck in place. I just had too much faith in my Stormclad's ability to put out crazy-high damage.
edit: Jonahtke, those gun mages are awesome, I wish that I could finish a unit so well in such a short time. What do you guys use for basic basing? I've got a bag of sand and some elmer's glue. Other than that I've got no idea about what to use, or how to use it.
It's really hard at the point level to squeeze in a second heavy for Cygnar. Maybe it would be better just to rely on the Stormclad bullet?
Yeah, I really liked how my list played. I just felt like I needed to learn how to react to different problems that the game presented to me.
I don't see much talk about the various mercenary solos out there. Everyone raves about Eiryss, Gorman and Rhupert, but what do you guys think about the other solos that could fit in those slots? I was pleasantly surprised when Harlan Versh took an arm off of the Deathjack in a single turn, and I'm sure that people have found some good uses for Lanyssa Ryssyl. What's the prevailing opinion on Taryn di la Rovissi or Gundrun the wanderer or Orrin Midwinter? Which 2 or 3 point Mercs/Minions hold a special place in your heart?
Taryn, I want to like, but I haven't quite figured out the best use for her in a Cygnar list. Solo/ghost sniping and clearing a line for Aiyana to cast Kiss of Lyliss seem to be her main roles in my army right now.
Also
NEW THREAD TIME!
son of a bitch
I can't wait to play Reznik, his model looks so much cooler in person.
Communists.
What kind of list do you run with him?
I was using Harlan Versh against circle, and this came up twice. Once when a druid was dropping a cloud, and once when Megalith was buffing itself.
The attack comes immediately after the spell is resolved. So, if pDenny were to cast Scourge(KD on hit) on my Reckoner(in Reznik's battlegroup), then the Reckoner would get knocked down, take damage, and then he would have his chance to attack(in this case he would not be able to, due to knock down).
Grim Angus
Troll Axer
Troll Impaler
Dire Troll Mauler
Earthborn Dire Troll
Trollkin Fennblades- Full unit
Stone Scribe Chronicler
Swamp Gobber Bellows Crew.
The basic plan would be to move up the middle with the Mauler and Axer up front, with the gobba's providing a smoke screen to stop them getting shot to hell. Impaler and Grim lurking behind them picking off enemies as they go.
While that's happening the Fennblades, Stonescribe and Earthen are moving up on the flank
Basic plan would be using the Fennblades as a tarpit to keep any blockers bogged down and then using Grim in combination with the Earthen and the Maulers Animus to do an assasination run on the opposing caster.
I'm basically just spitballing idea's at the moment and was wondering how more experienced players thought that would go/ tweaks i should make to the list.
Hence why I take 3 heavies with Reznik. Knock down the Reckoner and the Vanq shoots. Freeze the Vanq and the Crusader beats on you. Parasite the Crusader and Reznik walks up and beats your caster.
Currently painting: Slowly [flickr]
Reznik
Reckoner
Vanquisher
Min Choir
Vassal
Covenant
Full Errants + UA
Full Bastions
Wracks
At 50 points I add in eEiryss, a Templar, Gorman, and then the last two goes to either an Errant Seneschal, a Hierophant, or Anastasia diBray. Still figuring out which is best. I've also played around with jacks, trying to figure out which ones are best with him. Tried a Templar/Dervish/Repenter combo before, because the Dervish is a great little assassination tool (as can the Templar be) with Sidestep(/Beatback), Iron Aggression, and Perdition helping me get in the place I want. You can hit people from surprisingly far away.
What does the Mauler add to this list that a different heavy couldn't do better? I don't really see Rage helping anyone out that much (maybe the lights). I'd much rather have a Bomber in the list. It'd give you a little anti-infantry to round it out, since the Earthborn has the anti-armor covered. Plus, the Bomber can still back him up there, if needed.
If you have the models, I'd play it out a couple times as is. I really want to fit the Fenn's UA in there, though.
I'm liking the toughness of the Skorne, so far they're the only ones I've played, but just a battle-box game with Kaorti on Vassal. I was also considering Orboros and Everblight. I think I'd prefer Everblight over Orboros, if it was possible to have a more melee centric army with them. I have gathered that they're often rather range-heavy, and while I'm not opposed to ranged PER SE, I'd prefer not to have to be tied down to relying on range, which is one reason Orboros might appeal to me more than Everblight.
All three of the the armies you mention can be played in different ways, depending on the casters, beasts and units you choose. With legion, I wouldn't be to worried about getting stuck into a ranged-heavy list though. They have really nice ranged options, but their melee options are very dangerous as well.
If you don't want to rely on ranged attacks as the main focus in your army, but like legion's feel, have a look at the Carnivean, your lesser warbeasts and swordsmen. They all provide high level melee threat.
Of course, you give up durability. I wouldn't go with Everblight if you liked playing an attrition-style game. I was surprised at my inability to hurt you in our battlebox game, and If I was to pick up a Hordes faction, It would definitely be Skorne.