I don't know what kind of voodoo witchcraft you guys used to beat the colossus by charging it. On the rare occasion that it wouldn't immediately machine gun me and instead shoot the cannon it would always switch as soon as I got it down to armor. I eventually just gave up and blew it up the old fashioned way.
The Council exists just to prop up the Asari, Salarians, and Turians and keep the other races down. Even the three prime races are only there because of mutual distrust of each other. The Asari and Salarians decided they wanted to be the big dogs of the galaxy but during the Krogan Rebellions when the Turians came in and beat the Krogans the Asari and Salarians were at their weakest while the Turian fleet was still quite massive and they decided they'd rather make them a member than have them potentially take over the Citadel. If you aren't a threat to the Citadel, you ain't shit to them and they're pretty content just treating you like a second class citizen.
I mean, just look how the Citadel has treated humans.
Oh humans want to expand to become a galactic super power huh? Well lets go tell them they can only claim these territories over here the Batarians have already essentially set themselves up on (because hey fuck those guys) so they both go to war with and decimate one another so we don't have to deal with it. Oh shit guys, those humans kicked the Batarian's asses and have a damn big fleet of their own and our fleet just got butchered by the Geth and Saren's Warship, we better sign them up before they take us over.
The council are dicks.
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I don't know what kind of voodoo witchcraft you guys used to beat the colossus by charging it. On the rare occasion that it wouldn't immediately machine gun me and instead shoot the cannon it would always switch as soon as I got it down to armor. I eventually just gave up and blew it up the old fashioned way.
It's luck, all luck!
Luck and Inferno Ammo.
Is this ME1? Then yeah, Inferno Ammo + Frictionless Material and using the Mako as cover. It won't explode if you're not in it.
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well, the real reason the sirta foundation is shutting down is because the import flag for the biotic extremists quest is bugged to the negative outcome, like the Consort
Wasn't it bugged in ME1 though? Like any amount of deaths gave the renegade ending (0 deaths = paragon, all death = renegade, somewhere between = neutral. Except there's no neutral flag, if you kill one it's instant renegade.)
I don't know what kind of voodoo witchcraft you guys used to beat the colossus by charging it. On the rare occasion that it wouldn't immediately machine gun me and instead shoot the cannon it would always switch as soon as I got it down to armor. I eventually just gave up and blew it up the old fashioned way.
It's luck, all luck!
Luck and Inferno Ammo.
Is this ME1? Then yeah, Inferno Ammo + Frictionless Material and using the Mako as cover. It won't explode if you're not in it.
Oh, no sir. We're talking about the second game. Charge the Colossus, shove your shotgun in its big glowing peeper, and pull the trigger.
Over and over and over.
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I don't know what kind of voodoo witchcraft you guys used to beat the colossus by charging it. On the rare occasion that it wouldn't immediately machine gun me and instead shoot the cannon it would always switch as soon as I got it down to armor. I eventually just gave up and blew it up the old fashioned way.
It's luck, all luck!
Luck and Inferno Ammo.
Is this ME1? Then yeah, Inferno Ammo + Frictionless Material and using the Mako as cover. It won't explode if you're not in it.
Oh, no sir. We're talking about the second game. Charge the Colossus, shove your shotgun in its big glowing peeper, and pull the trigger.
Over and over and over.
You know, in all.... 3 of my playthroughs, I've never used the shotgun. Infiltrator twice and just completed Insanity with Sentinel + ARs.
Is there a class the combines both shotguns and ARs but with fun biotic/tech powers?
Oh, no sir. We're talking about the second game. Charge the Colossus, shove your shotgun in its big glowing peeper, and pull the trigger.
Over and over and over.
You know, in all.... 3 of my playthroughs, I've never used the shotgun. Infiltrator twice and just completed Insanity with Sentinel + ARs.
Is there a class the combines bother shotguns and ARs but with fun biotic/tech powers?
Vanguard with Assault Rifle training is your only option. But I'd like to point out that Vanguard is what we're talking about, here. They're the only class that Charges.
not because i'm dying, but because i feel i'm not doing enough visceral damage with the shotgun
so i reload the saves until i finish the battles in a satisfactory fashion
which sometimes takes a while, specially enyala. i wanna beat her down, but sometimes it's just not possible
to sum up: i really, really, REALLY miss vanguard. sentinel has its ups on certain missions, but the ups aren't nearly as high as when i'm charging around.
too bad i've got a soldier playthrough to do next.
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I don't know what kind of voodoo witchcraft you guys used to beat the colossus by charging it. On the rare occasion that it wouldn't immediately machine gun me and instead shoot the cannon it would always switch as soon as I got it down to armor. I eventually just gave up and blew it up the old fashioned way.
It's luck, all luck!
Luck and Inferno Ammo.
Is this ME1? Then yeah, Inferno Ammo + Frictionless Material and using the Mako as cover. It won't explode if you're not in it.
Oh, no sir. We're talking about the second game. Charge the Colossus, shove your shotgun in its big glowing peeper, and pull the trigger.
Over and over and over.
You know, in all.... 3 of my playthroughs, I've never used the shotgun. Infiltrator twice and just completed Insanity with Sentinel + ARs.
Is there a class the combines both shotguns and ARs but with fun biotic/tech powers?
Vanguard after you the Collector Ship, and you take the AR upgrade.
So i'm doing Stolen Memories, lovely dinner party and all, and Bastilla's voice actor is one of the guests
She does Female Shepard too. :P You can spot her and Mark Meer's voices on some other minor characters across the two games as well.
Other characters? How does one play the game as many times as the average person in this thread (like MEEEEEEEE) but not know this?
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Mark Meer voices a Turian on the Citadel (the customer in the gun store). He's also a mercenary over the radio at some point in Thane's recruit mission, iirc.
So there's like a week till the Shadow Broker DLC comes out, right? I'm trying my best to resist starting a new game till it's out, since I have all the other DLC packs waiting which I haven't played yet either.
quarians are a bunch of big babies afraid of the sniffles
volus flesh will split open if they remove their suits
thats why there will never be a volus team mate.
one shot to its suit and its raining chunky salsa from his explosion
I always figured if Bioware ever decided to have one of those beachballs be more than an annoying NPC he'd end up being little more than a meaty doorstop on the Normandy, or some sort of useless lab assistant for Mordin. He wouldn't even die from combat either, just get stuck in Zaeed's trash compactor and fired into a sun because you failed his loyalty mission to get him platform boots. Because seriously the only way you could ever get one of those guys into combat would be to cram one into a YMIR frame and let him tool around for like one mission smashing Vorcha to raise his self-esteem. Just like the Elcor, sure they're big but I wouldn't trust my life on a guy who couldn't run away from a glacier (come to think of it Volus and Elcor share an embassy like the size of an efficiency, at least the Council knows how useful they are.)
Also I'm betting that with how reviled the Batarians are by basically the entire fanbase, creators, and in-game people Bioware is going to force a Batarian teammate on us and just to drive us crazy he'll be like someone glued a Wizard and MacGyver together, and they'll never let us push him out of an airlock.
Mark Meer voices the Eclipse merc up in the ducts who gets dropped in front of you after his unfortunate meeting with Thane, as well as the volus on Illium trying to buy a stimsuit. Aside from one of the two asari draped over the guy in Kasumi's mission, I can't remember what else Hale does, but there was other stuff. Voice actors often do bit roles in addition to what they were mainly hired for, it makes more sense than hiring someone just to say a few lines. Grunt and Wilson, for example.
Gets a little weird across games, though. Listening to Zaeed in Dragon Age trying to get people to survive something.
Salarians were there first, they're the cool intelligent older brother to the turians.
Volus created the galactic economy, but apparently council seats are given based on military strength. That is supremely unfair to the weaker species, even to a xenophobe like me.
Volus DO have a council representative. The Turian councilor. They are a part of the Hierarchy now, their military strength is the military strength of their state, the Turian Hierarchy. The Volus probably contribute hundreds of thousands of troops, a lot of technology and financing to that military. The Volus state is a simple protectorate. Were the Volus ever attacked the Turians would go to war against their enemy, because it would be a direct declaration of war against the Turians as well. Volus have the Hierarchy citizenship and all the same chances of earning further citizenship tiers as well if they join the army (which is the only way turians can earn a citizenship as well).
Hell, unlike some other races with client races (the Hanar/Drell), turians even allow them to retain their own representative in the Citadel! Is it any wonder the Volus willingly joined the Hierarchy?
The Council exists just to prop up the Asari, Salarians, and Turians and keep the other races down. Even the three prime races are only there because of mutual distrust of each other. The Asari and Salarians decided they wanted to be the big dogs of the galaxy but during the Krogan Rebellions when the Turians came in and beat the Krogans the Asari and Salarians were at their weakest while the Turian fleet was still quite massive and they decided they'd rather make them a member than have them potentially take over the Citadel. If you aren't a threat to the Citadel, you ain't shit to them and they're pretty content just treating you like a second class citizen.
I mean, just look how the Citadel has treated humans.
Oh humans want to expand to become a galactic super power huh? Well lets go tell them they can only claim these territories over here the Batarians have already essentially set themselves up on (because hey fuck those guys) so they both go to war with and decimate one another so we don't have to deal with it. Oh shit guys, those humans kicked the Batarian's asses and have a damn big fleet of their own and our fleet just got butchered by the Geth and Saren's Warship, we better sign them up before they take us over.
The council are dicks.
Umm, about 10% of the Citadel Fleet got destroyed in the attack, which would probably be about 1% of the combined military strength of the Council races. Humanity could not take anything over.
They gave the Council seat to the humans because they couldn't stand their whining anymore (because let's face it, combined to the TURIANS they really didn't do anything special as a race to earn their way to the Council), or if you destroyed the Council the humans just sort of took it themselves and it would have been too much trouble to remove them.
And they never gave any limits to human expansion, quite the opposite, they sided with THEM when the batarians started complaining about humans expanding to the Verge.
Seriously, do you people read the Codex or just listen to Ashley's bullshit all day long?
The Council exists just to prop up the Asari, Salarians, and Turians and keep the other races down. Even the three prime races are only there because of mutual distrust of each other. The Asari and Salarians decided they wanted to be the big dogs of the galaxy but during the Krogan Rebellions when the Turians came in and beat the Krogans the Asari and Salarians were at their weakest while the Turian fleet was still quite massive and they decided they'd rather make them a member than have them potentially take over the Citadel. If you aren't a threat to the Citadel, you ain't shit to them and they're pretty content just treating you like a second class citizen.
I mean, just look how the Citadel has treated humans.
Oh humans want to expand to become a galactic super power huh? Well lets go tell them they can only claim these territories over here the Batarians have already essentially set themselves up on (because hey fuck those guys) so they both go to war with and decimate one another so we don't have to deal with it. Oh shit guys, those humans kicked the Batarian's asses and have a damn big fleet of their own and our fleet just got butchered by the Geth and Saren's Warship, we better sign them up before they take us over.
The council are dicks.
seems pretty similar to human history
i've always found it bullshit that the way to join the council is to do something ultra cool, where ultra cool is defined by the council as not finding the last digit of pi or managing the galactic economy forever, but doing something that threatens their superiority. thank god the humans came along to make it fairer
Humans being let to the Council was sort of bullshit. Only one human there actually saved the Citadel and did something absolutely exceptional. Turian actions against the Krogan Rebellions were a collective effort, a hundred-year long war of destruction where billions died and three of their planets were completely destroyed. And even then, according to the Codex: " the turians only became a full Council species after the Council had subjected them to a long period of careful observation", which took another hundred years according to the timeline.
The Council seat should have been given for Shepard, acting as a representative for Shepard.
"doing something that threatens their superiority" or pure military strength has never really been a reason to let someone into the Council. The Krogan were never invited despite also saving the galaxy. I'm guessing they did not e-mail invitations to the Rachni or Geth either. Humans got the position due to a single action in a single battle, not because they had a bigger or badder fleet then any other race. Turians had a lot of other aspects that merited them a Council leadership, such as building a society equal or superior to all the combined Citadel races in power and far more superior in responsibility and stability.
Humans got the position due to a single action in a single battle, not because they had a bigger or badder fleet then any other race.
Didn't the Alliance fleet rock up at the end of ME and wreck house on Sovereign?
I do like the idea of Shepard having a position on the council solely to represent himself though.
They were doing about as much good as the Council Fleet until Shepard destroyed/incapacitated Sovereign's conciousness and it fell down from the tower and lowered it's shields. They did wreck the geth fleet, but that seemed to be for the same reason that the geth fleet wrecked the remnants of the Council fleet - superior numbers and a surprise advantage.
Normandy could have probably destroyed Sovereign by itself after it fell down, as it in fact pretty much did.
Ashley isn't hardcore racist but she is prejudiced. Which is understandable but not a warranted thing because there are plenty of humans in the game that aren't prejudiced, and she hasn't lived in a society that did not have deep knowledge of the various different alien species in the world, and she is part of an intergalactic military force.
She is not "Space Hitler" in any form or fashion.
I'm more bothered of her rampant obnoxiousness and stupidity then her percieved racism, though. She is the only character in the games whose discussions aren't the least bit informative or interesting. I mean, Kaiden is boring but at least he gives us some knowledge on the first biotics of humanity, and their training and all sort of cool biotic shit.
Discussions with Ashley, on the other hand...
Ashley: "IMMA MARINE"
Shepard:
Ashley: "SISTER BEAT UP DUM BOYFRIEND"
Shepard:
Ashley: "FATHER. KNOW POETRY."
Shepard:
Ashley: "GRANDFATHER NOT LIKE ALIENS. ME NOT LIKE ALIENS TOO."
Shepard:
Liara: "I have an informative, albeit a bit uninteresting thing to say about this life threatening situation we are discussing here. It is based on decades of study and information, maybe I..."
Ashley: "NO! YOU ALIEN! WHY SHOULD WE TRUST YOU! WHY YOU SMARTER?!"
Shepard: "Oh God Ashley, shut up. Seriously. Whose fucking idea was it to have this random marine tag along with us? We have a Turian C-Sec sniper specialist who knows a lot of shit about Saren, a Krogan bounty hunter that is several centuries old, an Asari who specializes in knowledge of Protheans and is related to Benezia, a Quarian tech specialist and the most skilled biotic on the ship. She's a fucking Gunnery Sergeant! EVEN KAIDAN OUTRANKS HER BY FOUR RANKS! WHAT INPUT CAN SHE GIVE?! WHAT THE FUCK IS SHE DOING HERE?!"
Ashley is pretty much like if Private Jenkins had survived and became your crewmember. She belongs less to the Normandy then fucking Jacob. I guess she could have tagged in as some random marine who gets killed when the Collectors blow up the ship in ME2, but what the hell is she sitting in Shepard's councils and deciding on what to do next? Why is Shepard even on a first name basis with her?
Umm, about 10% of the Citadel Fleet got destroyed in the attack, which would probably be about 1% of the combined military strength of the Council races. Humanity could not take anything over.
They gave the Council seat to the humans because they couldn't stand their whining anymore (because let's face it, combined to the TURIANS they really didn't do anything special as a race to earn their way to the Council), or if you destroyed the Council the humans just sort of took it themselves and it would have been too much trouble to remove them.
And they never gave any limits to human expansion, quite the opposite, they sided with THEM when the batarians started complaining about humans expanding to the Verge.
Seriously, do you people read the Codex or just listen to Ashley's bullshit all day long?
I was semi joking about the part about the Citadel getting owned... but not quite. The humans are building military at an extremely quick speed and I'll be damned if the Citadel isn't threatened by that to some extent. And I'm pretty sure the Volus emissary in the first game takes the cake for "whiny". Humans joining the council had nothing to do with whining, it had to do with having a badass military that was expanding faster than any other military and catching the Council in a precarious situation.
Also, The Council sets very specific limits on who can set up colonies where and I'm pretty sure it's said specifically that the Council told the Humans to go establish colonies in areas that were already established Batarian settlements. This spurned a fairly large war that the Council didn't aid humans in at all. Which is a direct implication that the Council did that specifically for a reason.
Seriously. The Council are dicks only concerned with their own power and lording over their little white picket fenced portion of the galaxy and will pretty much screw anyone that suits them just because they feel like it. And this coming from someone who normally chooses to save them.
The Council has some wisdom in the sense that they don't look at what you've done, but what you could do. Given that the one human trait that we all agree on is our ability to invent creative ways to kill other people, it makes sense to get us on-side rather then stare us down. Unchecked, we'd have a scary as fuck fleet of dreadnaughts and other crazy technology in a couple of decades.
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The Council has some wisdom in the sense that they don't look at what you've done, but what you could do. Given that the one human trait that we all agree on is our ability to invent creative ways to kill other people, it makes sense to get us on-side rather then stare us down. Unchecked, we'd have a scary as fuck fleet of dreadnaughts and other crazy technology in a couple of decades.
The other side of that is that they could decide to crush us before we got uppity. Kinda surprised that didn't happen, actually.
The Council has some wisdom in the sense that they don't look at what you've done, but what you could do. Given that the one human trait that we all agree on is our ability to invent creative ways to kill other people, it makes sense to get us on-side rather then stare us down. Unchecked, we'd have a scary as fuck fleet of dreadnaughts and other crazy technology in a couple of decades.
The other side of that is that they could decide to crush us before we got uppity. Kinda surprised that didn't happen, actually.
Council wouldn't like to be war criminals and it'd probably create much greater tensions with the Terminus systems, which is a beast they don't want to poke too hard. I think something they have to keep in mind is that any one race they go to war with might decide to screw them by spending a decade or so curing the genophage.
Also, I just beat the Collector Ship.
Take that, Collectors! Krogun reload trick right in the face. Don't know if I prefer it to my Evi, but my enemies sure do dissolve, don't they? Even Harbinger took like three shots and a few melee.
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We were opening dormant relays! We punched out a Turian fleet! I'd say if they wanted to they could spin that out easily enough for a declaration of war. 'course, they'd already gone through the Rachni wars and the krogan rebellion, so they were a bit spent...
BioWare RPGs often let you sway your companions in one direction or another. Ashley is one such character. You can push her to be more accepting of other races, to the point where she'll heavily defend aliens from a racist human politician and his supporters. You can also push Kaidan into being an evil bastard. You can mold Garrus a little bit, too.
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It's luck, all luck!
Luck and Inferno Ammo.
I mean, just look how the Citadel has treated humans.
Oh humans want to expand to become a galactic super power huh? Well lets go tell them they can only claim these territories over here the Batarians have already essentially set themselves up on (because hey fuck those guys) so they both go to war with and decimate one another so we don't have to deal with it. Oh shit guys, those humans kicked the Batarian's asses and have a damn big fleet of their own and our fleet just got butchered by the Geth and Saren's Warship, we better sign them up before they take us over.
The council are dicks.
Is this ME1? Then yeah, Inferno Ammo + Frictionless Material and using the Mako as cover. It won't explode if you're not in it.
Wasn't it bugged in ME1 though? Like any amount of deaths gave the renegade ending (0 deaths = paragon, all death = renegade, somewhere between = neutral. Except there's no neutral flag, if you kill one it's instant renegade.)
Oh, no sir. We're talking about the second game. Charge the Colossus, shove your shotgun in its big glowing peeper, and pull the trigger.
Over and over and over.
You know, in all.... 3 of my playthroughs, I've never used the shotgun. Infiltrator twice and just completed Insanity with Sentinel + ARs.
Is there a class the combines both shotguns and ARs but with fun biotic/tech powers?
Vanguard with Assault Rifle training is your only option. But I'd like to point out that Vanguard is what we're talking about, here. They're the only class that Charges.
and all throughout it i'm reloading battles
not because i'm dying, but because i feel i'm not doing enough visceral damage with the shotgun
so i reload the saves until i finish the battles in a satisfactory fashion
which sometimes takes a while, specially enyala. i wanna beat her down, but sometimes it's just not possible
to sum up: i really, really, REALLY miss vanguard. sentinel has its ups on certain missions, but the ups aren't nearly as high as when i'm charging around.
too bad i've got a soldier playthrough to do next.
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Vanguard after you the Collector Ship, and you take the AR upgrade.
I prefer sniper, but that'll do it.
She does Female Shepard too. :P You can spot her and Mark Meer's voices on some other minor characters across the two games as well.
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if that lady is british or american she does the other country's accent rather well
Other characters? How does one play the game as many times as the average person in this thread (like MEEEEEEEE) but not know this?
I always figured if Bioware ever decided to have one of those beachballs be more than an annoying NPC he'd end up being little more than a meaty doorstop on the Normandy, or some sort of useless lab assistant for Mordin. He wouldn't even die from combat either, just get stuck in Zaeed's trash compactor and fired into a sun because you failed his loyalty mission to get him platform boots. Because seriously the only way you could ever get one of those guys into combat would be to cram one into a YMIR frame and let him tool around for like one mission smashing Vorcha to raise his self-esteem. Just like the Elcor, sure they're big but I wouldn't trust my life on a guy who couldn't run away from a glacier (come to think of it Volus and Elcor share an embassy like the size of an efficiency, at least the Council knows how useful they are.)
Also I'm betting that with how reviled the Batarians are by basically the entire fanbase, creators, and in-game people Bioware is going to force a Batarian teammate on us and just to drive us crazy he'll be like someone glued a Wizard and MacGyver together, and they'll never let us push him out of an airlock.
Gets a little weird across games, though. Listening to Zaeed in Dragon Age trying to get people to survive something.
Steve Blum is a bad example, since he's in everything.
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Volus DO have a council representative. The Turian councilor. They are a part of the Hierarchy now, their military strength is the military strength of their state, the Turian Hierarchy. The Volus probably contribute hundreds of thousands of troops, a lot of technology and financing to that military. The Volus state is a simple protectorate. Were the Volus ever attacked the Turians would go to war against their enemy, because it would be a direct declaration of war against the Turians as well. Volus have the Hierarchy citizenship and all the same chances of earning further citizenship tiers as well if they join the army (which is the only way turians can earn a citizenship as well).
Hell, unlike some other races with client races (the Hanar/Drell), turians even allow them to retain their own representative in the Citadel! Is it any wonder the Volus willingly joined the Hierarchy?
Once again, Turians are proven to be SO AWESOME.
Umm, about 10% of the Citadel Fleet got destroyed in the attack, which would probably be about 1% of the combined military strength of the Council races. Humanity could not take anything over.
They gave the Council seat to the humans because they couldn't stand their whining anymore (because let's face it, combined to the TURIANS they really didn't do anything special as a race to earn their way to the Council), or if you destroyed the Council the humans just sort of took it themselves and it would have been too much trouble to remove them.
And they never gave any limits to human expansion, quite the opposite, they sided with THEM when the batarians started complaining about humans expanding to the Verge.
Seriously, do you people read the Codex or just listen to Ashley's bullshit all day long?
seems pretty similar to human history
i've always found it bullshit that the way to join the council is to do something ultra cool, where ultra cool is defined by the council as not finding the last digit of pi or managing the galactic economy forever, but doing something that threatens their superiority. thank god the humans came along to make it fairer
The Council seat should have been given for Shepard, acting as a representative for Shepard.
"doing something that threatens their superiority" or pure military strength has never really been a reason to let someone into the Council. The Krogan were never invited despite also saving the galaxy. I'm guessing they did not e-mail invitations to the Rachni or Geth either. Humans got the position due to a single action in a single battle, not because they had a bigger or badder fleet then any other race. Turians had a lot of other aspects that merited them a Council leadership, such as building a society equal or superior to all the combined Citadel races in power and far more superior in responsibility and stability.
I do like the idea of Shepard having a position on the council solely to represent himself though.
It would end in him punching the turian counsol during a meeting.
The only reason Sheppard didn't have the chance to punch him yet is because he wasn't in range.
Turian: "Shepard, so glad we could finally meet up close in person"
Shepard: "Me too" *throws punch*
They were doing about as much good as the Council Fleet until Shepard destroyed/incapacitated Sovereign's conciousness and it fell down from the tower and lowered it's shields. They did wreck the geth fleet, but that seemed to be for the same reason that the geth fleet wrecked the remnants of the Council fleet - superior numbers and a surprise advantage.
Normandy could have probably destroyed Sovereign by itself after it fell down, as it in fact pretty much did.
It was Shep doing a shockwave-punch out the window at the turian councilor.
(Anyone else like to imagine shockwave as Shepard punching?)
Yeah I pretty much imagine Vanguard charging as being Shepard charging elbow first.
Vanguard Shep is NEVER out of range! Well almost never.
Maybe Ashley has a family background in the SS?
She is not "Space Hitler" in any form or fashion.
I'm more bothered of her rampant obnoxiousness and stupidity then her percieved racism, though. She is the only character in the games whose discussions aren't the least bit informative or interesting. I mean, Kaiden is boring but at least he gives us some knowledge on the first biotics of humanity, and their training and all sort of cool biotic shit.
Discussions with Ashley, on the other hand...
Ashley: "IMMA MARINE"
Shepard:
Ashley: "SISTER BEAT UP DUM BOYFRIEND"
Shepard:
Ashley: "FATHER. KNOW POETRY."
Shepard:
Ashley: "GRANDFATHER NOT LIKE ALIENS. ME NOT LIKE ALIENS TOO."
Shepard:
Liara: "I have an informative, albeit a bit uninteresting thing to say about this life threatening situation we are discussing here. It is based on decades of study and information, maybe I..."
Ashley: "NO! YOU ALIEN! WHY SHOULD WE TRUST YOU! WHY YOU SMARTER?!"
Shepard: "Oh God Ashley, shut up. Seriously. Whose fucking idea was it to have this random marine tag along with us? We have a Turian C-Sec sniper specialist who knows a lot of shit about Saren, a Krogan bounty hunter that is several centuries old, an Asari who specializes in knowledge of Protheans and is related to Benezia, a Quarian tech specialist and the most skilled biotic on the ship. She's a fucking Gunnery Sergeant! EVEN KAIDAN OUTRANKS HER BY FOUR RANKS! WHAT INPUT CAN SHE GIVE?! WHAT THE FUCK IS SHE DOING HERE?!"
Ashley is pretty much like if Private Jenkins had survived and became your crewmember. She belongs less to the Normandy then fucking Jacob. I guess she could have tagged in as some random marine who gets killed when the Collectors blow up the ship in ME2, but what the hell is she sitting in Shepard's councils and deciding on what to do next? Why is Shepard even on a first name basis with her?
I was semi joking about the part about the Citadel getting owned... but not quite. The humans are building military at an extremely quick speed and I'll be damned if the Citadel isn't threatened by that to some extent. And I'm pretty sure the Volus emissary in the first game takes the cake for "whiny". Humans joining the council had nothing to do with whining, it had to do with having a badass military that was expanding faster than any other military and catching the Council in a precarious situation.
Also, The Council sets very specific limits on who can set up colonies where and I'm pretty sure it's said specifically that the Council told the Humans to go establish colonies in areas that were already established Batarian settlements. This spurned a fairly large war that the Council didn't aid humans in at all. Which is a direct implication that the Council did that specifically for a reason.
Seriously. The Council are dicks only concerned with their own power and lording over their little white picket fenced portion of the galaxy and will pretty much screw anyone that suits them just because they feel like it. And this coming from someone who normally chooses to save them.
The other side of that is that they could decide to crush us before we got uppity. Kinda surprised that didn't happen, actually.
Council wouldn't like to be war criminals and it'd probably create much greater tensions with the Terminus systems, which is a beast they don't want to poke too hard. I think something they have to keep in mind is that any one race they go to war with might decide to screw them by spending a decade or so curing the genophage.
Also, I just beat the Collector Ship.
Take that, Collectors! Krogun reload trick right in the face. Don't know if I prefer it to my Evi, but my enemies sure do dissolve, don't they? Even Harbinger took like three shots and a few melee.
BioWare RPGs often let you sway your companions in one direction or another. Ashley is one such character. You can push her to be more accepting of other races, to the point where she'll heavily defend aliens from a racist human politician and his supporters. You can also push Kaidan into being an evil bastard. You can mold Garrus a little bit, too.