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[MOBA DOBA] League of Legends, Attack of the Boring OP

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Amumu is really OP right now. I ban him every ranked game and I see other team captains do the same.

    He's really not that hard to counter. How to make mumu really sad:
    1. gank early - he's practically useless pre-6, and won't have any tanky items yet
    2. gank often - if not fed at all, he's a boat anchor
    3. steal the blues - mumu is so mana-dependent it's not even funny. He's not nearly as effective without the CDR/mana regen of blue. This also means to jump him when he's low on mana, as he won't be able to counterattack effectively
    4. shoot the wad - Get someone survivable to bait him into ulting on just 1 guy, then jump him afterward.
    5. do not hug! - duh. Despair+sunfire+tantrum= you dead
    6. Get MR - seriously, 90% of the dmg done by mumu is magic.
    7. Check the items - every tank has to prioritize one type of damage first. Get the other type on him early for easy kills.

    He's absurdly weak against anyone with decent range, and galio is a severe hard counter due to the natural MR synergies and the fact that his ult hits like a truck close up. You can also bait with the gust+aoe blast and chip the crap out of him.

    schuss on
  • BeckBeck Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Man, free Singed Weeks are usually my least-favorite weeks, but I've decided to learn Morganna, and good lord. None of these free-singed people realize her shield negates the throw effect.

    Like 3 people have died in my turret on a botched dive, and this one singed did it twice.

    Morganna rules.

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  • Catastrophe_XXVICatastrophe_XXVI Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Garen's getting banned in games? That really upsets me.

    Also, is fair to call someone shit without their ult? I was playing lastnight in solo queue and some singed said i was shit and a noob without Garen's alt...

    I proceeded to carry the team and go 19/7/x. But serisouly saying that about any champ doesn't make sense. "You'd really suck if it wasn't for one of your 4 abilities..." doesn't using the ability that's on a 90sec cooldown to actually get kills or decide whether to stay and fight or run not count? I mean if it's up and your at low hp, i'm going to stay and fight to get you down a little more so i can kill you, if it's not up then i'm getting the hell out because garen isn't going to do a lot of dmg once his other abilites are on cool down. -End Rant

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  • programjunkieprogramjunkie Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    schuss wrote: »
    Amumu is really OP right now. I ban him every ranked game and I see other team captains do the same.

    He's really not that hard to counter. How to make mumu really sad:
    1. gank early - he's practically useless pre-6, and won't have any tanky items yet
    2. gank often - if not fed at all, he's a boat anchor
    3. steal the blues - mumu is so mana-dependent it's not even funny. He's not nearly as effective without the CDR/mana regen of blue. This also means to jump him when he's low on mana, as he won't be able to counterattack effectively
    4. shoot the wad - Get someone survivable to bait him into ulting on just 1 guy, then jump him afterward.
    5. do not hug! - duh. Despair+sunfire+tantrum= you dead
    6. Get MR - seriously, 90% of the dmg done by mumu is magic.
    7. Check the items - every tank has to prioritize one type of damage first. Get the other type on him early for easy kills.

    He's absurdly weak against anyone with decent range, and galio is a severe hard counter due to the natural MR synergies and the fact that his ult hits like a truck close up. You can also bait with the gust+aoe blast and chip the crap out of him.

    The problem with this approach is if the rest of the team is good, Amumu can afford to go, say, 0/5, so long as he is competent with his initiations / ults. Amumu isn't good because of his 1v1 or even jungling, he's good because he has absurdly good teamfight potential.

    I'm not sure I'd use the words "OP" per se, but he's certainly one of the best tanks in many team comps.

    programjunkie on
  • SoaLSoaL fantastic Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Garen's getting banned in games? That really upsets me.

    Also, is fair to call someone shit without their ult? I was playing lastnight in solo queue and some singed said i was shit and a noob without Garen's alt...

    I proceeded to carry the team and go 19/7/x. But serisouly saying that about any champ doesn't make sense. "You'd really suck if it wasn't for one of your 4 abilities..." doesn't using the ability that's on a 90sec cooldown to actually get kills or decide whether to stay and fight or run not count? I mean if it's up and your at low hp, i'm going to stay and fight to get you down a little more so i can kill you, if it's not up then i'm getting the hell out because garen isn't going to do a lot of dmg once his other abilites are on cool down. -End Rant

    I'd rank garen just under ezreal in terms of overpoweredness

    oh hello insanely mitigating tank that shoots out consistent aoe DPS, ignores anything but hard snares, and is able to deliver that last rush of damage needed to take out anyone (how many times you see fools escape teamfights sub 10%? how many times you see that happen against garen?)


    so I have a tough time feeling sorry for any garen players! but its apparent that singed was terrible and a sore loser

    SoaL on
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  • SoaLSoaL fantastic Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    zen is saying just look what direction its rolling in and get out the way

    he just has a way of talking is all

    SoaL on
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  • nealcmnealcm Alvarian AlvarianRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    After that it's just looking at the animation frames and moving left or right
    what does that mean

    i dont think it means anything

    this is zen, we are talking about

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoelpJQgFcs

    If you watch tubby he rears his arm back before the barrel roll towards you. If you're not standing still and moving back and forth, as soon as you see his arm move back you can move in the direction to get out of the way of tubby's barrel

    Sometimes you can guess wrong, but it's a bit like dealing with Karthus' dumb bombs

    Zen Vulgarity on
  • VaLiantineVaLiantine Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Amumu has a great initiation with his Bandage Toss and fits well into the AoE metagame which turns the table in team fights.

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I don't really understand what makes ez so overpowered, honestly

    he's insanely good at poking and his blink is useful, but I am too babby to see what makes him the wrath of god

    he doesn't seem to have anywhere near the insane MS damage I see everyone talking about, and people can run away from him so easily

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  • SoaLSoaL fantastic Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    well with just uh

    sheen or brutalizer

    he spits of dickrickulous damage at long range

    if you do go for a kill he can do some really mean sustained damage and if shit gets western he can simply flash away

    flash away all day

    seriously I hate playing against competent ezreals

    Earlier I got to play against one that used his flash to initiate against ryze by boinking right next to him. That was a nice ezreal to play against

    SoaL on
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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    schuss wrote: »
    Amumu is really OP right now. I ban him every ranked game and I see other team captains do the same.

    He's really not that hard to counter. How to make mumu really sad:
    1. gank early - he's practically useless pre-6, and won't have any tanky items yet
    2. gank often - if not fed at all, he's a boat anchor
    3. steal the blues - mumu is so mana-dependent it's not even funny. He's not nearly as effective without the CDR/mana regen of blue. This also means to jump him when he's low on mana, as he won't be able to counterattack effectively
    4. shoot the wad - Get someone survivable to bait him into ulting on just 1 guy, then jump him afterward.
    5. do not hug! - duh. Despair+sunfire+tantrum= you dead
    6. Get MR - seriously, 90% of the dmg done by mumu is magic.
    7. Check the items - every tank has to prioritize one type of damage first. Get the other type on him early for easy kills.

    He's absurdly weak against anyone with decent range, and galio is a severe hard counter due to the natural MR synergies and the fact that his ult hits like a truck close up. You can also bait with the gust+aoe blast and chip the crap out of him.

    The problem with this approach is if the rest of the team is good, Amumu can afford to go, say, 0/5, so long as he is competent with his initiations / ults. Amumu isn't good because of his 1v1 or even jungling, he's good because he has absurdly good teamfight potential.

    I'm not sure I'd use the words "OP" per se, but he's certainly one of the best tanks in many team comps.

    he has to get to you first. he doesn't have any super-awesome initiations

    schuss on
  • nealcmnealcm Alvarian AlvarianRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    welp i'm against a premade that is doing revive + global ultimates

    this is either gonna be really good

    or really bad

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  • DarkChyldDarkChyld Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Is the damage from Gragas' Body Slam increased by AD items? I know it used to be, but I thought I heard they were going to change it to AP only. Anyone know?

    Check it out in game, and he does get a damage coefficient for AD just hover over body slam and it'll be the orange number. Use drunken rage and it'll increase.
    I don't really understand what makes ez so overpowered, honestly

    he's insanely good at poking and his blink is useful, but I am too babby to see what makes him the wrath of god

    he doesn't seem to have anywhere near the insane MS damage I see everyone talking about, and people can run away from him so easily

    He's great because unlike most heroes he has a good early, mid, and late game. None of it is weak. He has a big skill curve so maybe in low / mid ELO he's not so great. When you meet one that hits his Q 90% of the time and gets red, blue, or both buffs, GL running away.

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  • Dropping LoadsDropping Loads Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    For items with on click abilities, is there a way to activate other than clicking on the icon in the corner? It's a bit of a reach when the mouse is normally in the middle of the screen, and I'd like to keep my UI small if I can. Also, I know I can cast heals or shields by hitting the button and then F1, or whatever team mate number, but is there a way to do this with just one button?

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  • DarkChyldDarkChyld Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    For items with on click abilities, is there a way to activate other than clicking on the icon in the corner? It's a bit of a reach when the mouse is normally in the middle of the screen, and I'd like to keep my UI small if I can. Also, I know I can cast heals or shields by hitting the button and then F1, or whatever team mate number, but is there a way to do this with just one button?

    1 2 3 | Those are the corresponding numbers to the item boxes you can hit to activate items / pots.
    4 5 6 | You can also drag the icons to numbers that better suit your needs.

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  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    DarkChyld wrote: »
    When you meet one that hits his Q 90% of the time and gets red, blue, or both buffs, GL running away.

    a million times this

    if you get jumped by a good ez with red buff, prepare to die really fast

    interrobang on
  • nealcmnealcm Alvarian AlvarianRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    it is starting out good but once they got their ults it got pretty bad

    we are not done yet

    but it is currently a 4v5 so it is not looking good

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  • ArthilArthil Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Beck wrote: »
    Man, free Singed Weeks are usually my least-favorite weeks, but I've decided to learn Morganna, and good lord. None of these free-singed people realize her shield negates the throw effect.

    Like 3 people have died in my turret on a botched dive, and this one singed did it twice.

    Morganna rules.

    A Morgana kept killing me one match as Kog'Maw.

    I'd hurt her, a -lot-. Funny thing? Every time I'd watch her pop that shield and think it would save her from the "True" damage of my icathian surprise.

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  • nealcmnealcm Alvarian AlvarianRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    welp akali came back, their twisted fate disconnected, and i discovered the ridonkulous ganking power of jungling amumu with your 1v2 heimer

    pantheon spams as we win: lame
    lame
    lame
    lame
    lame

    me: AS LAME AS REVIVE GLOBAL ULTIMATES HUH

    nealcm on
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  • Dropping LoadsDropping Loads Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    DarkChyld wrote: »
    For items with on click abilities, is there a way to activate other than clicking on the icon in the corner? It's a bit of a reach when the mouse is normally in the middle of the screen, and I'd like to keep my UI small if I can. Also, I know I can cast heals or shields by hitting the button and then F1, or whatever team mate number, but is there a way to do this with just one button?

    1 2 3 | Those are the corresponding numbers to the item boxes you can hit to activate items / pots.
    4 5 6 | You can also drag the icons to numbers that better suit your needs.

    Awesome, thanks.

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  • Dac VinDac Vin S-s-screw you! I only listen to DOUBLE MUSIC! Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I hope someone said it, but casting a support spell on yourself is ALT+(QWER). SHIFT+(QWER) to quickcast it on someone else, though you can change it in the option menu.

    And now, fun quiz time:

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    You see this.

    Tell me about the biggest mistake the enemy made.
    Actually two mistakes, but here I am talking about the one everyone on that team made, especially considering our team had Morgana and two easy to use stuns.

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  • andor00andor00 Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Soo...

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  • andor00andor00 Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Here is my Urf game:

    http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=226497

    Maybe it could be in the next OP?

    attachment.php?attachmentid=53253&d=1283073327

    attachment.php?attachmentid=53254&d=1283073342

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  • ArkadyArkady Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    That urf game was pretty cool.

    My guess is, unless I have my icons all mixed up, nobody on their team bought merc treads. Also, their garen only has 1 sunfire cape, clearly this is doing it wrong.

    Arkady on
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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    as soon as you see his arm move back you can move in the direction to get out of the way of tubby's barrel
    what direction?

    um, i guess you mean any? I thought there was some thing where the barrel blows up tot he right or left and the animation shows when way you should run.

    but i guess you mean run in any perpendicular direction when you see the barrel. that's how you deal with all skill shots, right? move perpendicular?

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    hasn't that already been linked? didn't you already link that?

    also, making an empty post to get your post to be the top of the page is kinda poor form

    Charles Kinbote on
  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Dac Vin wrote: »
    I hope someone said it, but casting a support spell on yourself is ALT+(QWER). SHIFT+(QWER) to quickcast it on someone else, though you can change it in the option menu.

    And now, fun quiz time:

    eijx2p.jpg

    You see this.

    Tell me about the biggest mistake the enemy made.
    Actually two mistakes, but here I am talking about the one everyone on that team made, especially considering our team had Morgana and two easy to use stuns.
    pretty much the only knowledge i know in this game. like the ONLY thing i know about this game :?. they have no merc treads.

    PikaPuff on
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  • facetiousfacetious a wit so dry it shits sandRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    nealcm wrote: »
    welp akali came back, their twisted fate disconnected, and i discovered the ridonkulous ganking power of jungling amumu with your 1v2 heimer

    pantheon spams as we win: lame
    lame
    lame
    lame
    lame

    me: AS LAME AS REVIVE GLOBAL ULTIMATES HUH

    Never stop relating these stories and your wit. Never.

    facetious on
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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    hasn't that already been linked? didn't you already link that?

    also, making an empty post to get your post to be the top of the page is kinda poor form

    ture that, so i deleted one of my posts so he gets botp'd. :D

    PikaPuff on
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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Congrats pika with you knowing that you're automatically better than 50% of the community

    Know where to put wards and you're better than 70%

    Zen Vulgarity on
  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    NOPE. i need to make that picture my wallpaper or something. where is that picture? put it in the op. you can put that guy's game in there too. but what the fuck ever. it's just a dumb link to a thread on another forum saying "remember that guy?"

    NOPE. i don't remember that guy so why the fuck should i care and good job being inclusive by not explaining "who that guy" is within your op and then expecting everyone to play this game about some thing that not everyone knows about

    PikaPuff on
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  • SoaLSoaL fantastic Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    I try to make a point to bug my team to buy mitigation items

    tossing out "hey guys negatron cloak is only 740 and would basically double your MR" and then praying they do it


    Love playing against folks whose build is already determined before the loading screen

    yes, stack armor

    it will own my voidling's auto-attacks

    SoaL on
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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    Dac Vin wrote: »
    I hope someone said it, but casting a support spell on yourself is ALT+(QWER). SHIFT+(QWER) to quickcast it on someone else, though you can change it in the option menu.

    And now, fun quiz time:

    eijx2p.jpg

    You see this.

    Tell me about the biggest mistake the enemy made.
    Actually two mistakes, but here I am talking about the one everyone on that team made, especially considering our team had Morgana and two easy to use stuns.
    pretty much the only knowledge i know in this game. like the ONLY thing i know about this game :?. they have no merc treads.

    That and almost no Magic resist against an almost entirely magic team.

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  • Dac VinDac Vin S-s-screw you! I only listen to DOUBLE MUSIC! Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    Dac Vin wrote: »
    I hope someone said it, but casting a support spell on yourself is ALT+(QWER). SHIFT+(QWER) to quickcast it on someone else, though you can change it in the option menu.

    And now, fun quiz time:

    eijx2p.jpg

    You see this.

    Tell me about the biggest mistake the enemy made.
    Actually two mistakes, but here I am talking about the one everyone on that team made, especially considering our team had Morgana and two easy to use stuns.
    pretty much the only knowledge i know in this game. like the ONLY thing i know about this game :?. they have no merc treads.

    That and almost no Magic resist against an almost entirely magic team.

    And no tanks. Tanky people, but no real tanks - note how Gragas chose to go AP.

    Dac Vin on
  • TracerBulletTracerBullet Spaceman Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    Dac Vin wrote: »
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    Dac Vin wrote: »
    I hope someone said it, but casting a support spell on yourself is ALT+(QWER). SHIFT+(QWER) to quickcast it on someone else, though you can change it in the option menu.

    And now, fun quiz time:

    eijx2p.jpg

    You see this.

    Tell me about the biggest mistake the enemy made.
    Actually two mistakes, but here I am talking about the one everyone on that team made, especially considering our team had Morgana and two easy to use stuns.
    pretty much the only knowledge i know in this game. like the ONLY thing i know about this game :?. they have no merc treads.

    That and almost no Magic resist against an almost entirely magic team.

    And no tanks. Tanky people, but no real tanks - note how Gragas chose to go AP.

    That and I'm gonna bet either their Garen or their Gangplank were feeders.

    TracerBullet on
  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    oh oh and that they had the audacity to go up against you

    PikaPuff on
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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited August 2010
    hm. they should do a death at x time graph or something like that

    oh oh a minute by minute of the question "were you dead at any point during this minute" so you can see giant gaps at the start of the game and you'd know they were feeding as opposed to just getting raped over and over late game

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    hahaahah pika

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  • CaenemCaenem Sarasota, FLRegistered User regular
    edited August 2010
    nealcm wrote: »
    i love the malzahar love

    hes just

    the man

    I managed to force Warwick to run away with about 30 hp's after he chased me down half a lane trying to kill me with my 100 hp's the whole chase. Dot+Ignite+Voidling and him running over Null void and through the silence wall..The fact that I can booby trap the entire escape path is just insane. If I didn't use my ult to kill his buddy 10 seconds earlier he woulda been toast.

    He's now a must purchase after this week. Which means I'll probably be 22 and still have no cash for runes.

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