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THE HUG PITT : A PAX music event proposal
liquidchaos
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PROBLEM STATE
Last year, any attempt made to make a 'pitt' during the music events landed on Enforcers forced to play Nanny, music pitt crews disengaging, and a total lack of physical vibe flowing through the crowd.
Face it people, there ARE avenues for physical exertion front stage, and I refuse to have a music event where people are merely standing around.
I refuse to believe that fellow geeks are not capable of the communal immersion via The Pitt. Granted that most pitt's are for 'moshing'; involved in pushes, grunts and aggression, we can see the source and opus of such aversion.
I refuse to believe that we are not capable of physical acts of communion when music is involved.
Nee, this is caused by our communities lack of aggression; which is cool actually. However, we lack the expressive capability to exert physical phenomenon in response to musical vibe. The following proposal addresses both; an expressive process capable of exerting relevant and physical responses to music, maintaining a communal experience resulting from music, and most of all, removing the aggressive prerequisite of Pitts and Moshing.
SOLUTION : THE HUGG PITT
The template is simple. Music goes on, people congregate, dance around.
A Pitt will occur, but we must suppress physical aggressive tendencies, and instead, supplant an 'engulfing' act of communion, in the form of a 'Hug'.
For each 'Hug' you receive,
you must find 2 other targets to 'Hug',
XOR drag a fellow geek to the Hugg Pitt.
Hugging may be sustained, in this form;
Hugging may also take the form of the Sneak/Stealth Hug;
Hugging may also be done as a 'Hug Orgy', like so;
If a hug is not received, or willing to be received, simply disengage. Again, maintaining the pact of non-aggression.
Once receiving a hug, and participating in the Hugg Pitt, one must keep in mind that 'the hugs must flow'. A sustained presence of huggs will reach most 'critical mass' points for a pitt crowd.
For all music events involving a coaxed desire for physicality; I propose an immediate implementation of The Hugg Pitt, before we end up looking like 'people standing around' while awesome music is playing >_>;
I propose the Hugg Pitt be tested on JoCo's 'Code Monkey'.
Amendments and addendums to follow. I inquire the greater PAX enclave for peer review on this proposal.
Last year, any attempt made to make a 'pitt' during the music events landed on Enforcers forced to play Nanny, music pitt crews disengaging, and a total lack of physical vibe flowing through the crowd.
Face it people, there ARE avenues for physical exertion front stage, and I refuse to have a music event where people are merely standing around.
I refuse to believe that fellow geeks are not capable of the communal immersion via The Pitt. Granted that most pitt's are for 'moshing'; involved in pushes, grunts and aggression, we can see the source and opus of such aversion.
I refuse to believe that we are not capable of physical acts of communion when music is involved.
Nee, this is caused by our communities lack of aggression; which is cool actually. However, we lack the expressive capability to exert physical phenomenon in response to musical vibe. The following proposal addresses both; an expressive process capable of exerting relevant and physical responses to music, maintaining a communal experience resulting from music, and most of all, removing the aggressive prerequisite of Pitts and Moshing.
SOLUTION : THE HUGG PITT
The template is simple. Music goes on, people congregate, dance around.
A Pitt will occur, but we must suppress physical aggressive tendencies, and instead, supplant an 'engulfing' act of communion, in the form of a 'Hug'.
For each 'Hug' you receive,
you must find 2 other targets to 'Hug',
XOR drag a fellow geek to the Hugg Pitt.
Hugging may be sustained, in this form;
Hugging may also take the form of the Sneak/Stealth Hug;
Hugging may also be done as a 'Hug Orgy', like so;
If a hug is not received, or willing to be received, simply disengage. Again, maintaining the pact of non-aggression.
Once receiving a hug, and participating in the Hugg Pitt, one must keep in mind that 'the hugs must flow'. A sustained presence of huggs will reach most 'critical mass' points for a pitt crowd.
For all music events involving a coaxed desire for physicality; I propose an immediate implementation of The Hugg Pitt, before we end up looking like 'people standing around' while awesome music is playing >_>;
I propose the Hugg Pitt be tested on JoCo's 'Code Monkey'.
Amendments and addendums to follow. I inquire the greater PAX enclave for peer review on this proposal.
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So the venue will have no standing space?
The area in front of your chair is your standing space. :P
This may be of assistance.
.......things are worse than I thought q_q;
Implementations will have to be revised for such a hugg pitt to occur.
I mean, we are reduced to this, essentially;
Such a configuration will not do for Metroid Metal.
makes me angry, Jerry.. angry, and tired..
yes...I was also getting the willies in remembrance.
Moe or another mod, please lock this thread.
"We know that the moment we slip, it will be taken away... and so it is of the utmost importance to be worthy of it constantly."
PAX will always be held on the best weekend for PAX. Sometimes that will be a bad weekend for you; I'm sorry.
My elbows were tingling, as they are my usual line of defense in such situations.
It is my firm belief that unasked-for hugging is contrary to Wheaton's Law.
+++BRONYS BEFORE BROS!+++
Well, you would have to go join said hug-pitt before you were hugged. Joining the pit would be considered asking for hugs. Unless you were expecting a mosh pit and got hugged instead.
My elbows tingled at the OP where it said:
For each 'Hug' you receive,
you must find 2 other targets to 'Hug',
XOR drag a fellow geek to the Hugg Pitt.
+++BRONYS BEFORE BROS!+++
Yah, I missed that part.
Anyway, this is all a moot point, since there's no space for this to happen anyway...too bad Moe's on the CCST atm or this would've been locked already :P
'Drag' should be amended to 'Coerce'
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coerce
Not helping your cause there, skippy.
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Regardless of the bad wording, I think it's fairly obvious the OP never intended to have people bodily forced into the pit against their will. It's a nicer kinder form of mosh pit, and I for one would choose getting hugged any day over being shoved, punched and slammed around. If you don't like hugs, stay out of the hug pit. If you don't like being hurt stay out of the mosh ones...
Seems pretty simple to me.
<Qs23> I just need to get my dicks in a row
<prox> i work for dicks
#paforums_pax, all about the dicks.
Yes. On a macro level, it's a respect issue. You respect my right to control my own body and to not be touched unless I approve it.
And on another level, I spent a decade or so training my muscles to react before my brain kicks in. People who have surprised me with unwanted touching often found themselves face-down on the floor in a very painful arm lock. It's been about 25% people who I felt really badly about taking down and 75% "Would someone kindly go find an officer of the law so I can file an assault charge against this person?"
+++BRONYS BEFORE BROS!+++
Assault is a bad and serious thing. Not assaulting people is a rule on the back of your badge. In addition to any legal repercussions, your badge will be confiscated if you are causing any trouble like that.
Also, to be totally clear, I am not an employee of PA nor an official representative in any legal way. I am a volunteer at PAX and that is far as I am affiliated with them.
"We know that the moment we slip, it will be taken away... and so it is of the utmost importance to be worthy of it constantly."
PAX will always be held on the best weekend for PAX. Sometimes that will be a bad weekend for you; I'm sorry.
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=126013
I find this development to be highly displeasing. Allow me to express my dissatisfaction.
Update: Err... this link is better: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=15777052#post15777052
"We know that the moment we slip, it will be taken away... and so it is of the utmost importance to be worthy of it constantly."
PAX will always be held on the best weekend for PAX. Sometimes that will be a bad weekend for you; I'm sorry.
Yeah, that's what I was getting at.
Like it or not, I will be standing. And dancing. And acting like an idiot. You can confine me to my seat, but you can't glue my ass to it.
I can't understand how someone could watch a band like Protomen or Metroid Metal and not stand/dance/jump around. I'm physically compelled to do so by the music. Perhaps you should consider trying to snag a balcony seat...And a monocle.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Still, I hope my dissatisfaction has been sufficiently expressed.
Oh well, I suppose I will have to deal with it.
Elaborate.
Is it really that hard to deal with? It breaks down to a case where the pursuit of your own enjoyment is noticeably hampering that of others and potentially leading to a rippling effect where it hurts almost everyone. It wouldn't be tolerated if you got so pumped at a movie that you had to stand up the majority of the time, I fail to see how this is any different.
Oh and I was, in complete seriousness, shopping for ascots the other day. I can't manage a monocle with my glasses.
If you truly fail to see how that is different, you fail to understand music. I agree that sitting down through a symphony is appropriate, but not the kinds of bands they're booking. If they want people to sit down and clap politely after each song, they should book video games live or something. If they want people to get super pumped and head bang and slam dance and scream their lungs out, they should keep booking bands like Protomen and Metroid Metal.
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But you're assuming EVERYONE wants to sit. When in fact, looking through the forums, there seem to be just as many people who want to stand and dance. Forcing people to sit would upset just as many people as forcing everyone to stand. I would think the easiest solution would be to get a balcony seat. Then, you can see over EVERYOOOOONE!
Seems like what we need is less the hugging idea and more like the ability to organize it so dancers can dance near one another in our personally designated, government sanctioned spaces.