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[Mini] Murder Most Phalla, a tale of Sherlock Holmes - VILLAGE WIN (Day 6)

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  • CapfalconCapfalcon Tunnel Snakes Rule Capital WastelandRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    kime wrote: »
    Capfalcon wrote: »
    I guess Demurist has been investigated by now, and no one is kicking up a fuss, so...

    Dogbone

    No. Bad train of thought. I do think we should trust Demurist... carefully. There are many scenarios in which no one would be speaking out against Demurist at this point:
    • The seer is dead
    • The seer did not target Demurist last night, either because they trust him, were roleblocked, redirected, etc
    • The seer wants a moutpiece to speak out against Demurist, but said mouthpiece does not exist yet/anymore
    • Demurist is a thrall

    etc.

    It's likely Demurist is safe, and that he was seered last night. But not guaranteed.

    I'm sorry that I wasn't clear. I'm giving demurist some rope. If dogbone is good, we're going to have words tomorrow.

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  • DarianDarian Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Demurist claimed a role that is still active in the game (mentioned in the narration).

    No one else has stepped up to contradict him.

    Therefore, it seems likely that he is who he says he is.

    Plus, you're an outed baddie and we shouldn't even be listening to you, Jack.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Capfalcon wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    Capfalcon wrote: »
    I guess Demurist has been investigated by now, and no one is kicking up a fuss, so...

    Dogbone

    No. Bad train of thought. I do think we should trust Demurist... carefully. There are many scenarios in which no one would be speaking out against Demurist at this point:
    • The seer is dead
    • The seer did not target Demurist last night, either because they trust him, were roleblocked, redirected, etc
    • The seer wants a moutpiece to speak out against Demurist, but said mouthpiece does not exist yet/anymore
    • Demurist is a thrall

    etc.

    It's likely Demurist is safe, and that he was seered last night. But not guaranteed.

    I'm sorry that I wasn't clear. I'm giving demurist some rope. If dogbone is good, we're going to have words tomorrow.

    It was directed to the village as a whole, not you specifically.

    Darian: MUAHAHAHA, you can't stop me! 'sides, apparently I didn't post my reveal in flashy enough colors, no one else noticed. I will survive to the end and misdirect the village the entire time!

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  • duraxdurax Who watches the watchdogs? Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Darian wrote: »
    Demurist claimed a role that is still active in the game (mentioned in the narration).

    No one else has stepped up to contradict him.

    Therefore, it seems likely that he is who he says he is.

    Plus, you're an outed baddie and we shouldn't even be listening to you, Jack.

    I agree with the points you have said here. I want to add that he also said he was roleblocked which would imply that his basis for vouching for daniant is a little mysterious.

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  • DarianDarian Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    He also said he was masoned...

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  • duraxdurax Who watches the watchdogs? Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Okay then, !Dogbone

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  • AkimboLegsAkimboLegs Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I'm glad it seems we're at least somewhat skeptical of Demurist. I still feel like it could be a weird gambit by the mafia.

    Something that's bothering me is why didn't the mafia kill him? It's possible he has a guardian, but it didn't seem like any kills were missing.

    Another thing that's striking me is that if he IS telling the truth, and he's masoned with (at the very least) a vig, and a seer right from the start, possibly a guardian. That's a really powerful good guy network, which means that there are probably quite a lot of evils to make up for it.

    I know someone (who I'm guessing helped check the phalla) mentioned this was a high-powered phalla, so arguably this lends credence to Demurist's claims.

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  • PsychoLarry1PsychoLarry1 Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    AkimboLegs wrote: »
    I'm glad it seems we're at least somewhat skeptical of Demurist. I still feel like it could be a weird gambit by the mafia.
    Why would they sacrifice Jdark to save demurist? I suppose he could have some special baddy power, but at best that gets them 1 bandwagon kill before we turn on him for asking us to vote out a villager/whore.

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  • Dogbone33Dogbone33 State of ConfusionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    So everyone is just following the lead of someone that just says I did something? Let's say I'm mafia then what he is saying is that the mafia gets individual kills. If that is the case then there have been two mafia kills each night. We got rid of Jdark last night so if I am mafia then the mafia is gone?

    Also if Demurist has a seer power himself (because what kind of special only gets a one time ability and nothing else) he also said he was roleblocked last night. He has not come out and said I was seered unless I've missed something.

    This all seems rather spurious at best. How many specials can there be? Overpowered or not there have already been two special deaths. I am guessing Watson was the vig and his fiancee sounded like she was the seer from the narration.

    Obviously the village is going to follow whatever it wants, but this is a lot of sheeping and little thinking.

    Because I don't want to die unjustly I will throw a vote on Daniant

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    AkimboLegs wrote: »
    Another thing that's striking me is that if he IS telling the truth, and he's masoned with (at the very least) a vig, and a seer right from the start, possibly a guardian. That's a really powerful good guy network, which means that there are probably quite a lot of evils to make up for it.

    My sense of symmetry demands that the other pair of the masons also have a limited use power.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Wow. That was some pretty poor defending Dogbone. Not that you have much chance regardless but that wasn't very convincing.

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  • Sir FabulousSir Fabulous Malevolent Squid God Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Agree with DA poor show on the defence Dogbone. In fact if you turn up as NOT mafia I'll be surprised.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    AkimboLegs wrote: »
    Something that's bothering me is why didn't the mafia kill him? It's possible he has a guardian, but it didn't seem like any kills were missing.

    Often the mafia will not target the network head for fear of losing their kill to a guard (since it's standard for the head to be guarded). This can sometimes lead to an interesting game of chicken where the network uses the guard for someone else, but runs the risk of the mafia taking a chance kill against the head. It's fun :P.

    Also, we want a clear second place. It's always a good thing to have a clear second place.

    I suggest myself :P.

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  • AkimboLegsAkimboLegs Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    AkimboLegs wrote: »
    I'm glad it seems we're at least somewhat skeptical of Demurist. I still feel like it could be a weird gambit by the mafia.
    Why would they sacrifice Jdark to save demurist? I suppose he could have some special baddy power, but at best that gets them 1 bandwagon kill before we turn on him for asking us to vote out a villager/whore.

    Yeah, I agree, but honestly that's the only point that's really keeping Demurist from definitely being evil. jdark did have a bit of a bandwagon at the time, so maybe they figured it was too much of a gamble to have all the mafia try to start a new bandwagon on a completely different target, and they figured it'd be more worthwhile to sacrifice one of them to lend credibility to Demurist.

    I am, however, perfectly willing to admit that is a bit far-fetched, and voting out Dogbone makes sense. I think we should probably be getting more information from Demurist, but waiting a day to see what happens makes sense.

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  • AkimboLegsAkimboLegs Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    kime wrote: »
    AkimboLegs wrote: »
    Something that's bothering me is why didn't the mafia kill him? It's possible he has a guardian, but it didn't seem like any kills were missing.

    Often the mafia will not target the network head for fear of losing their kill to a guard (since it's standard for the head to be guarded). This can sometimes lead to an interesting game of chicken where the network uses the guard for someone else, but runs the risk of the mafia taking a chance kill against the head. It's fun :P.

    Also, we want a clear second place. It's always a good thing to have a clear second place.

    I suggest myself :P.

    Second place shouldn't matter, because order of operations states the vote comes first.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    AkimboLegs wrote: »
    AkimboLegs wrote: »
    I'm glad it seems we're at least somewhat skeptical of Demurist. I still feel like it could be a weird gambit by the mafia.
    Why would they sacrifice Jdark to save demurist? I suppose he could have some special baddy power, but at best that gets them 1 bandwagon kill before we turn on him for asking us to vote out a villager/whore.

    Yeah, I agree, but honestly that's the only point that's really keeping Demurist from definitely being evil. jdark did have a bit of a bandwagon at the time, so maybe they figured it was too much of a gamble to have all the mafia try to start a new bandwagon on a completely different target, and they figured it'd be more worthwhile to sacrifice one of them to lend credibility to Demurist.

    I am, however, perfectly willing to admit that is a bit far-fetched, and voting out Dogbone makes sense. I think we should probably be getting more information from Demurist, but waiting a day to see what happens makes sense.

    Also, please note that even if Dogbone is evil, Demurist is not cleared. If Demurist received the info from another player who has not seered him (possible, it's only day 3), then Demurist would have little choice but to pass it on or else risk the seer's suspicion. If he were mafia, he'd have to condemn Dogbone. Again, not likely, just something to keep in mind.

    Akimbo: I've learned to always have second place. It doesn't hurt us, and sometimes hosts are mean.

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  • DemuristDemurist Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Can I say with 100% certainty that dogbone is mafia? Absolutely not. I am told that he can kill, and his methods match that of the Moriarty gang. I would really like for this to be true, if not, someone has some explaining to do...

    Consider this my test.

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  • Dogbone33Dogbone33 State of ConfusionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I think you would all be much better chasing Daniant the ripper. I hope she mutilates you all.

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  • DarianDarian Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Nah, we already know kime is the ripper. Thanks for trying, though.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    !Dogbone

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  • RaneadosRaneados Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    okay I revealed as the ripper DAYS ago

    subtly. None of this brashness of these Americans

    psh

    kime stop trying to steal my thunder or I'll be forced to thrash you

    dogbone, as I like to trust people who claim to be seers

    if he dies evil, then +1 demurist, but I can't think of a situation where you'd know HOW he kills and in what style, but not know who he is

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  • jimtopiajimtopia Registered User
    edited September 2010
    Retract daniant. Dogbone your attempt at defense fails to convince me of your innocence.

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  • DarianDarian Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Raneados wrote: »
    arrgh i will cut out your loins

    Yeah, that was too subtle.

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  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Let's give a round of applause for Dogbone, the world's most obvious mafia!

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  • Dogbone33Dogbone33 State of ConfusionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Yeah yeah. Well I will enjoy tormenting Watson AND his doxie in hell. That's right. I called for their deaths as well.

    :evil:

    There is no stopping this wagon now.

    Does anyone want to know who dies tonight? BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Um...you?

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  • Dogbone33Dogbone33 State of ConfusionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Well of course ME silly pancake man. I will be food for the hound.

    However I will not be the only one feeding the worms.

    I wish Holmes would come out and play though. Silly goose hiding behind everyone else.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Raneados wrote: »
    okay I revealed as the ripper DAYS ago

    subtly. None of this brashness of these Americans

    psh

    kime stop trying to steal my thunder or I'll be forced to thrash you

    YOU HAVE NOTHING ON ME

    I TEAR, MUTILATE, AND RIP

    RAWRRRR


    Dogbone33 wrote: »
    Yeah yeah. Well I will enjoy tormenting Watson AND his doxie in hell. That's right. I called for their deaths as well.

    :evil:

    There is no stopping this wagon now.

    Does anyone want to know who dies tonight? BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Not me, muahahaha!

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  • TeucrianTeucrian Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I have a crazy hunch about Dogbone.

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  • Dogbone33Dogbone33 State of ConfusionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Crazy ripper of cakes. You have a 1 in 16 chance of dying tonight. Hope you are well frosted. Hope you are ALL well frosted.

    Ask Watson how efficient I am. Oh wait you can't.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Dogbone33 wrote: »
    Crazy ripper of cakes. You have a 1 in 16 chance of dying tonight. Hope you are well frosted. Hope you are ALL well frosted.

    Ask Watson how efficient I am. Oh wait you can't.
    I can't die, I'm Jack the Ripper. I never die.

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  • TeucrianTeucrian Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Dogbone33 wrote: »
    Crazy ripper of cakes. You have a 1 in 16 chance of dying tonight. Hope you are well frosted. Hope you are ALL well frosted.

    Ask Watson how efficient I am. Oh wait you can't.

    Yeah, I definitely have a feeling now. Something about this post just reeks of mafia to me. He's even got the standard evil boilerplate tactic of threatening our lives with a mafia kill. This is a good hunch, I think.

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  • Dogbone33Dogbone33 State of ConfusionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    I know who lives and who dies. I will let you all know in a little over two hours.

    Can you wait that long?

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  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    But we could die before then!

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  • Dogbone33Dogbone33 State of ConfusionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    If I can find my giant bottle of syrup and a fork you may be dead from my gluttony.

    YUM

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  • The AnonymousThe Anonymous Uh, uh, uhhhhhh... Uh, uh.Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Dogbone33 wrote: »
    If I can find my giant bottle of syrup and a fork you may be dead from my gluttony.

    YUM
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  • Dogbone33Dogbone33 State of ConfusionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    You have competition. I'm pretty sure the hound wants my trachea tonight.

    I will neuter that bastard first.

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  • M.D.M.D. and then what happens? Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    dogbone for mafia, see i knew i was right

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  • Dogbone33Dogbone33 State of ConfusionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2010
    tick, tock....

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  • DarianDarian Registered User regular
    edited September 2010
    Who are we putting in second place for the eventuality that Dogbone is actually Moriarty himself and can escape the vote?

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